**So what is the issue? --[[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John#top|talk]]) 10:54, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
**So what is the issue? --[[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John#top|talk]]) 10:54, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
:::Issue is that it has happened at least 3 times that I am challenged by other person for delinking the profession, geolocations or any word used in daily life. I find no rationale in such concerns honestly. What should be done at such situation? You possibly had too. [[User:OccultZone|'''<span style="color:DarkBlue;">Occult</span><span style="color:blue;">Zone''']] <small>([[User talk:OccultZone#Top|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/OccultZone|Contributions]] • [[Special:Log/OccultZone|Log]])</small></span>
:::Issue is that it has happened at least 3 times that I am challenged by other person for delinking the profession, geolocations or any word used in daily life. I find no rationale in such concerns honestly. What should be done at such situation? You possibly had too. [[User:OccultZone|'''<span style="color:DarkBlue;">Occult</span><span style="color:blue;">Zone''']] <small>([[User talk:OccultZone#Top|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/OccultZone|Contributions]] • [[Special:Log/OccultZone|Log]])</small></span>
::::If people challenge you, you should refer them to [[WP:OVERLINK]] which recommends not making such links. --[[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John#top|talk]]) 11:01, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
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A Note on threading:
Interpersonal communication does not work when messages are left on individual users' talk pages rather than threaded, especially when a third party wishes to read or reply.
Being a "bear of very little brain", I get easily confused when trying to follow conversations that bounce back and forth, so I've decided to try the convention that many others seem to use, aggregation of messages on either your talk page or my talk page. If the conversation is about an article I will try to aggregate on the article's talk page.
If the conversation is on your talk page or an article talk page, I will watch it.
If the conversation is on my talk page or an article talk page and I think that you may not be watching it, I will link to it in a note on your talk page, or in the edit summary of an empty edit. But if you start a thread here, please watch it.
I may mess up, don't worry, I'll find it eventually. Ping me if you really need to.
please note this is a personal preference rather than a matter of site policy
Hello John, if you are going to introduce a "summary" section ("executive" of otherwise), should you not allow comment on it? Any particular concern could have been raised on my talk page (and we could have followed a thread there - I agree with your procedure). I think the whole new section serves no useful purpose, except to expand on your contributions to the discussion on the various proposals, and I think that you should consider removing it. Davidships (talk) 12:19, 1 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You're right. Would a subsection work? --John (talk) 12:40, 1 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
As I said, at bottom I don't think that a summary of what you think about everyone else's views (or indeed about aspects that nobody had raised anyway) serves any purpose at all. Imagine if we all did that! If you choose to leave it there, in whatever form, it will undoubtedly attract comment. An objective drawing of the threads together would be a different thing and would recognise that there are some, of both persuasions, who are not stuck in their trenches. Davidships (talk) 13:32, 1 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Every so often in my eight-year career on Wikipedia I see levels of bone-headedness that I could not previously have imagined. That there are people editing an online encyclopedia who do not know what a pronoun is, or do not know what sexism is, or think "political correctness" is something terrible, is noteworthy and interesting and needs to be called out. I caused offence a year or so ago when I called someone's actions "retarded", so let's not use that word. Let's say it is surprising to me that people with such limited minds and restricted life experience are even interested in the sort of work we do here, let alone that they feel able to make demands about our policies and how we interpret them. --John (talk) 07:39, 2 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Please pardon the intrusion, but I could not agree more with that last comment. From my perspective, the ones that truly scare me are the Editors who are on a "mission" to fix, correct, and/or add "balance" to WP; and in the process do anything but. Granted I have come to appreciate the curmudgeonly, veteran stalwarts like Andy the Grump, but the Users (registered and IP alike) that claim to have a specific purpose come across as some kind of content-wrecking virus. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (Talk) 17:47, 2 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It takes all sorts I suppose. But there is something surreal about discussing MoS usage of pronouns with people who don't know what a pronoun is, or who think English uses grammatical gender. Oh well. --John (talk) 17:51, 2 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Reflinks
Hi John. The banner below always had a hyper link to Reflinks. I used it all the time. Do you know where it went?? Am trying to do the references on Park Mains High School. It has only been like this since today. Thanks mate.
{{Cleanup-bare URLs|date=July 2014}} — Preceding unsigned comment added by Discolover18 (talk • contribs)
Reflinks is gone as of today. I am devastated as I also used it all the time. --John (talk) 16:20, 1 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
And here is a discussion about what can be done. --John (talk) 09:20, 2 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Bit of a bummer about Reflinks, I liked that wee thing. If a new thing gets set up. Can you do the links on Park Mains High School and my latest article Erskine Bridge Hotel. I've near completed my Erskine Wiki experience so I may stop hanging around that much.--Discolover18 (talk) 13:38, 3 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It seems to be back up as of now. --John (talk) 08:44, 4 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi John. Any chance you can check an article for us. It should be in my contributions. Its the Erskine Golf Club. Its taking ages for it to be published. Cheers mate.--Discolover18 (talk) 12:40, 14 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Nice work. --John (talk) 12:51, 14 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Looking. --John (talk) 07:39, 2 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Our friend User:QuackGuru again
Greetings! It seems that our friend User:QuackGuru is filing ANI -cases on a regular basis. Now, however, he filed a case against three different editors at the same time! This starts to look like a serious misuse of WP Noticeboards. I am asking you to take a look because you are familiar with QuackGuru's problematic history.
It seems that QuackGuru is bringing up some individual edits that he disagrees with, and uses WP:ANI as forum to do it. I have a clear conscience on each edit: all my edits are discussed at the Talk Page and well-explained in the edit summaries, and if I have made a revert (usually somebody has been removing text and sources from the article), I have done it because there haven't been decent explanations in the edit summaries nor any discussion at the Talk Page. This can be clearly seen from the diffs and quotes QuackGuru is bringing up as well.
This is interesting: administrator Kww also warns QuackGuru on QG's Talk Page about his behaviour[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:QuackGuru&diff=next&oldid=614670663, telling him to consult him first before going to noticeboards. As Kww clearly puts it: "Bringing three people that you are in a conflict with to ANI and SPI simultaneously without some very good evidence connecting the three accounts looks more like a temper tantrum than a serious effort to use our noticeboards properly."
I think this clarifies the big picture. However, QuackGuru has already bringed the matter to WP:ANI, and in case of misuse of the noticeboards, I think it's something that should be reacted to. Thanks for your time John! Jayaguru-Shishya (talk) 18:47, 3 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting. --John (talk) 19:06, 3 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Context is important. I think that QG is likely right that sockpuppeting continues in alternative medicine articles. I think he's likely right that the editors he has named are, to varying degrees, detrimental to the process of building an encyclopedia. It's his method of argumentation and presentation that is problematic: it's too shrill, and likely to make the reader shut down before considering his arguments properly. If we can channel that passion in a constructive way, we might be able to fix some of the problems that plague these articles.—Kww(talk) 20:00, 3 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with all three of your statements Kww. I do have some concern that QG seems not to have learned from a previous block I made on him. I wonder if a time-limited topic ban might be in order? It's apparent that this is all QG does on Wikipedia, and as you say it creates more heat than light. We might be better off with QG editing peacefully in another area than burning out himself and other editors if he continues in this vein. Thoughts? --John (talk) 20:05, 3 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it's reasonable to take him away from the editing in the area. He serves a valuable role in making certain that the pro-woo editors don't distort the articles, and that's an exhausting task that no one else will step up and do. What I think would be reasonable would be requiring him to get approval from an admin before starting a new SPI or ANI report.—Kww(talk) 20:36, 3 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Mmm. Well he can't go on like this. I saw your post at his talk and I agree with what you said there as well. Whatever the rights and wrongs of the situation, his methods are unhelpful and outside our community norms. And I only partly agree with your pro-woo/anti-woo dichotomy; this is not a situation where one's enemy's enemy is one's friend. I prefer a more nuanced approach and I would be prepared to issue another block if QG were to continue his unhelpful editing practices. This would be a last resort if all else failed. Let's go with your idea for now; I think it's a minimum for the sake of our sanity. --John (talk) 21:01, 3 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'm afraid that the "exhausting task" Kww mentioned doesn't serve as a reason to overlook QuackGuru's behaviour, especially this ANI case in question. In my opinion, all the editors must be treated equally, with same rights and under the same rules.
Especially with terms like "pro-woo editors", I'd be extra careful. Suggesting that one editor (like QuackGuru) should be granted some privileges over WP Policies because there are some "pro-woo editors", that should be absolutely out of question. In my personal opinion, the edits of these "pro-woo editors" speak for themselves: many have already got banned (most recently Klocek and Neuraxis have been under discussion). Hoever, the ANI in case should be taken seriously.
I think it might be best for both QuackGuru and others that QuackGuru's editing capabilities would be taken into full utility in some other areas. Jayaguru-Shishya (talk) 21:33, 3 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It would probably require a consensus at AN or ANI to make such an arrangement enforceable. I'm at work right now. I'll post something tonight or tomorrow and see if I can get a consensus that he needs mentoring and that I would be suitable in the role.—Kww(talk) 21:15, 3 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Good offer. I have asked QG not to do any more of this stuff in the meantime. I thought about closing all four discussions but will leave them open for 24 hrs or so in case there is any legitimate discussion to be had. --John (talk) 21:22, 3 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I find it somewhat interesting that Kww is getting involved with a case concerning QuackGuru again. I think Kww should step back with this. In this WP:ANI -case (again filed by QuackGuru)[1], Kww gave me a warning for ... no reason ever mentioned. The whole case was absurd: I was being accused by QuackGuru for "following him to other articles", without any evidence being presented. Kww stepped in, closed the case and gave me a warning.
In this 3RR -case concerning QuackGuru again[2], Kww stepped in one more time. On my Talk Page, he said[3]: " "The next sign of abusing administrative noticeboards to further pseudoscientific POVs will result in an indefinite block". Now it seems that Kww is allowing hte abuse of administrative noticeboards for QuackGuru.
Same rules for all editors, I'd say. Is there any reason to make exception here? I appreciate Kww's honesty that he is ""the most sympathetic admin for QuackGuru's cause"[4], though. I think he'd better step aside with this one. Jayaguru-Shishya (talk) 21:49, 3 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The purpose is to provide QG with a reviewer that he will not fear is attempting to shut him up, but will prevent him from running amok. Note that I didn't interfere with QG's block in the past because I recognized that his behaviour was inappropriate. Your belief that I consider you and Herbxue to be disruptive editors is quite correct, however. You actually should be pleased that I am volunteering to do this: if I approve something to go forward to a noticeboard, I'm pretty much precluded from acting on it directly.—Kww(talk) 22:11, 3 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Suits me as long as you are imposing the same rules to all the editors: it doesn't seem reasonable that you are threatening others with indefinite block[5] while being ready to apply different rules to editors "that you feel sympathetic with". Jayaguru-Shishya (talk) 11:51, 4 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
QG has provided a lot of difs showing some degree of disruption. Do not have the energy to look into it in detail right now. In a topic area with a lot of socks such as these [6] it is amazing that this topic area received decent reviews in this Mar 2014 journal article [7].
Kww suggestion to review QG difs regarding other editors before they go forwards to the larger community I think is a good one. John's previous block of QG for removing comments from his own talk page has gotten a change in behavior, as QG now leaves talk page comments and lets the autoarchive tool take care of it. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 03:08, 4 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks all for the positive comments. I have never blocked, and will never block, for removing comments from your own talk page. QG had his talk page access removed last time for doing this but the block was for something quite different, as was explained at the time. --John (talk) 06:54, 4 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I wonder how this is going to serve it's purpose. Within a time period of 24 hours, QuackGuru has turned to Kww already twice, proposing two different cases against the very same editor, Middle 8. First, proposing an SPI[8], and second, proposing a WP:AE report[9]. Oh boy... Jayaguru-Shishya (talk) 15:43, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Is this what one really was looking for? Up to this point, QuackGuru has turned to Kww 2x more again: suggesting a 3rd case against user Middle 8[10], and now attacking against user Kshilts[11]].
Why is this a problem? For two reasons. First, because instead of QuackGuru himself filing a case - and probably getting sanctioned for the misuse of WP administrative boards just like any other one of us - he is actually able to hide behind the back of an administrator who openly states to be "sympathetic for QuackGuru's cause"[12]. Second, this very admin, Kww, is giving warnings based on what QuackGuru reports to him, without any chance for the one being accused to defend himself/herself. This seems like a conviction without a trial. Here are two occasions where Kww is giving an ultimatum: [13] and [14].
In my opinion, there is a serious need to consider sanctions more severe for QuackGuru. I am convinced that his editing might be a big help in other topic areas, but it also seems that these very alt. med. articles aren't just for him, and might turn out to be too difficult and stressful. Jayaguru-Shishya (talk) 22:21, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Bon Secours page
Please see the talk page for 2 edit requests. Trying to edit from a mobile phone is probably a shortcut to insanity. Regards, BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 12:08, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Will take a look later tonight. Thanks. --John (talk) 15:22, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi John, just a quick note on this. I changed fashion to couture in order to distinguish from other fashion brands VB had previously launched (jeans, glasses) and her other fashion forays with other brands. I can't call it own brand as she'd previously used her name on jeans and it is technically couture. Fair point to take the quote off in the lede – was possibly making it overlong – but The Independent information, ref and quote about guest editing French Vogue and being in a panel discussion with the head of Parsons NY was an attempt to describe the transition VB has made from not being taken seriously to being taken rather seriously in some quarters. It also goes some way to addressing the banner about info being out of date. Any objections if I write that info back in? Libby norman (talk) 19:40, 6 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I thought "couture" sounded rather fancy; as I understand it, it is just a French term for fashion. Can we take this to article talk? --John (talk) 19:52, 6 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Of course, but couture doesn't just mean fashion. Haute couture (basically, made to measure as opposed to ready to wear) would be a term for the high-fashion brands, such as Chanel, Versace and so on, and that's the sector her label is in. What about the section you lost from The Independent which brings VB up to date and describes her work with Vogue France and Parsons NY? Many thanks. Libby norman (talk) 22:13, 6 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Battle of Öland FAC
Since you provided helpful comments and/or reviewing in related quality assessments, I'm dropping a notice that battle of Öland is now an FAC. Please feel free to drop by with more input!
Hi, thanks for copyediting the article! The changes made seem to be nice and good, and I hope you'll continue.
I only have one question. I don't understand the change made for the metal fluorides table. Just for comparison, these are the former and the current tables.
Structural progression of metal fluorides
Sodium fluoride, ionic
Bismuth pentafluoride, polymeric
Rhenium heptafluoride, molecular
Structural progression of metal fluorides
Sodium fluoride: cubic lattice of alternating sodium and fluorine atoms with no distinct molecules
Bismuth pentafluoride: arbitrarily long, straight chain of atoms
Rhenium heptafluoride: discrete small molecule
Sodium fluoride, ionic
Bismuth pentafluoride, polymeric
Rhenium heptafluoride, molecular
I must say, I don't understand why the pictures have now two captions, and why they have to be of the same width. Just in case, these captions not seen in the former table were a rudiment when the table was constructed, and since the result seemed nice, nobody decided to touch them. If it were needed, they would be made seen, but they're not, since reader is expect only to realize the fact: the more fluorine atoms per each metal atom, the more likely is the compound to be covalent, which the subsection, in which the table is, tells. It doesn't really matter that sodium fluoride has the NaCl-like lattice. If you think people need to be explained what is the difference between covalent bonding and ionic bonding, we can give short parenthesized notes, that is fine, or maybe even a short sentence in the beginning of the Compounds section (before the Metals subsection). And yes, the BiF5 picture was longer than the ReF7 picture, but the bonds were similarly sized, so the difference was clearer.
But if I'm getting something wrong (which very well may be the case), please explain it to me.--R8R (talk) 21:17, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Fair points. Let me think about it. I have restored the previous formatting meantime. --John (talk) 21:29, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Glad to hear that :) Of course, take the time needed.--R8R (talk) 21:44, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
That's an interesting assertion and it's sad if it's true. Is there any evidence that one particular editor forced them to leave? People leave all the time. I have taken wiki-breaks myself. --John (talk) 09:33, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Natureguy1980 specifically names SMcC as the reason for his resignation, Chuunen Baka cites "the small-minded and ignorant bullying of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Birds editors by the MOS gang", and Sabine's Sunbird's final edit was this. 80.43.195.5 (talk) 09:36, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Evidence? --John (talk) 09:38, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
(ec) I saw your question on ANI, and think this is so open. I declared the three Precious, did you know? Just read their statements in the leave notice and their user pages, I can't say any better what made them go. Sad to watch. I translated Invisible Rail ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:41, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
This is a tricky one, and it is one I have defended other users against as well. If you and I had a disagreement over say capitalisation, and I decided to leave the project as a result, that doesn't necessarily mean you deserve to be punished. Before enacting sanctions we need to see diffs of misbehaviour, and we need multiple people to agree that it is is misbehaviour. On a collaborative project like ours it is inevitable that people leave sometimes, and a user's curse as they walk out of the door is not necessarily dispassionate evidence. If you want to change my mind, show me diffs of bad edits, or discussions where consensus has been reached. Not the angry words of someone who is leaving. --John (talk) 09:47, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
(How come every time I check in to Wikipedia something like this is going on?)
I'm intentionally not mentioning the circumstances as the moment the "I" word is used it will limit what Gerda can say, but Gerda knows better than most just how bad things can get when a dispute over style preferences gets out of control, and that if this escalates it's unlikely to end well. Whether or not there's a problem is immaterial—it's not disputable that a reasonable number of well-established users from a wide variety of backgrounds (i.e., not just one editor rounding up their usual tag-team QAI-fashion) believe there to be a problem. FWIW I tend to agree with SMcCandlish over capitalization (when I wrote Aylesbury duck it never occurred to me to capitalize the D), but to deny there are people who disagree is to be wilfully blind. Realistically, the only ways this can end are:
A decision is made to make the MOS enforceable and undisputable. This would be such a radical policy change I don't see how an outright schism could be avoided. (Think how much trouble arose from trying to get a consistent policy on how to summarize information at the top of an article, and article titles are a lot more emotive a topic than colored boxes.);
The MOS is depricated to "suggestion" status and things are determined page-by-page or by local consensus. This would lead to chaos as people squabbled over which local consensus applied to each page;
It festers until it ultimately ends up at Arbcom, where lots of people will waste lots of time talking and then NYB & Co will slap either indefblocks or topic bans on the two noisiest people from each side;
The people involved in the most controversial activity cool down and realize that if this genuinely is a problem, other people will fix it.
(4) is the only alternative which will end well, which means it's the one least likely to happen. – iridescent 2 10:11, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nicely put. I vote for (4) and will do my utmost to ensure that happens, inasmuch as that is in my power. --John (talk) 10:57, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Remind me, which editor is being threatened with a community restriction here? Higher standards apply in these cases. Everybody is entitled to an occasional lapse, but I am averse to lynchings, mob justice, and summary trials. --John (talk) 18:22, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
John. Really? If that comment was isolated ... it'd be one thing. Read the discussions on the bird capitalization issue. I no longer want to even give my input on MOS issues because it's like being bullied and hounded ... one gives ones opinion and then is subjected to endless replies that hector you over and over again. It's not just one editor - but it's quite common at the MOS pages. It's very ... bullying ... to be told by editors involved with the MOS that my specialist knowledge of how things are styled in a subject area is subject to some "specialist falacy" .... but when the MOS needs enforcing ... those same editors turn to specialized sources to buttress their arguments about the MOS. And that's just what I've been subjected to the few times I've stepped into the MOS and tried to take part. If small areas such as BIRDS can't enforce their own little specialized consensus - the MOS pages shouldn't expect to be exempt from that same "small consensus" decisions. Ealdgyth - Talk 18:35, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I am certainly sorry if you have ever felt bullied or hounded. There's always been a tension between those who wish for localised usage and those who wish to have more commonality across subjects. I expect there always will be. If there are user conduct areas on any side, certainly these need to be addressed. I just hate to see half a dozen folk lining up to castigate a well-intentioned editor. There are better ways to deal with misbehaviour. I did notice that comment you highlighted, and it raised my eyebrows. If there is more of a pattern I would like to see it. --John (talk) 18:40, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Here from the 9th. And the hectoring, must have the last (and longest) word issue is very hard to quantify with diffs. But it's pretty evident if you look at any of the dicussions. And please do check out the various discussions related to the Bird capitalization issue - they were pretty acrimonious - and unnecessarily heated (perhaps from both sides, but that's generally the tone of MOS discussions - it's like it's cage-fighting and they cannot possibly ever compromise or even see that the other "side" might have valid opinions. Classic battleground behavior, to me.) Ealdgyth - Talk 18:55, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see much that is actionable in that diff. Things get heated sometimes. If there is anything else you want me to look at, please highlight it. --John (talk) 19:23, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Returning from rehearsal: I had my trouble with the believers in the holy MoS on A Boy was Born which they insisted had to be written as the MoS requires, not as the creator wanted it ("To my Father – A Boy was Born – Benjamin Britten – Op. 3"). Another example was Remember not, Lord, our offences. Those are just 2 articles, birds are several thousand. If something is not broken, don't touch it. - I have never provided a diff against a person and am not going to start it now. I suggested (with my bolding): DYK ... that Geistliche Chormusik, a collection of 29 motets by Heinrich Schütz (pictured) appeared in 1648, when the Thirty Years War ended, containing a "plea for peace"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:13, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
ANI
As Echo will already have told you, I mentioned your name at ANI. (no reply needed to this) Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 14:55, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
revert over at ANI
Hi,
I disagree with what you said. Per WP:NAC, if there is a clear consensus for something (as has happened here), then a non-admin can carry it out without prejudice against them being a non-admin. In this case, there was unanimous support for the ban, and as it required no special tools, per WP:NOTBURO, I fail to see why it was inappropriate. --Mdann52talk to me! 14:16, 14 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
See your talk. We are not a bureaucracy, but in this case, following the wording of policy makes sense. Let an uninvolved admin close it, please. --John (talk) 14:18, 14 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Overlinking issue
Thanks for your contributions. I had pinged you on my talk page so that your name can be visible. As some pages on my watchlist had edits from you, concerning the flagging, overlinking, etc.
Some times, next one(happened two times now) would argue that you cannot remove the overlinking of geolocations, professions, words in daily use, etc. But it isn't it like you are allowed to remove those links whenever you see them? Many of these start and C class articles have 10 or more overlinks. Even a stub has 1-2. If one link has been removed, it has got effect on the page?
So what is the issue? --John (talk) 10:54, 15 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Issue is that it has happened at least 3 times that I am challenged by other person for delinking the profession, geolocations or any word used in daily life. I find no rationale in such concerns honestly. What should be done at such situation? You possibly had too. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log)
If people challenge you, you should refer them to WP:OVERLINK which recommends not making such links. --John (talk) 11:01, 15 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
