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About me:
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company_name = MCB Bank Ltd. |
company_logo = [[Image:MCB Logo.JPG|150px]]|
company_type = [[Public Limited Company|Public]]
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foundation = 1947|
location = Registered Office: [[Islamabad]], Principal Office: [[Karachi]] Pakistan|
key_people = [[Mian Mohammad Mansha]] (Chairman)|
industry = [[Banking]]<br />[[Capital Markets]]|
products = Loans, [[credit card]]s, savings, consumer banking etc.|
assets = {{profit}}[[United States Dollar|USD 6.02 Billion]]|
revenue = {{profit}}[[Pakistani rupee|PKR 35.782 Billion]] (2009)<ref name="Welcome to MCB Bank Limited">[http://www.mcb.com.pk/ir/pdf/Annual%20Consolidated%20Accounts-2009.pdf]</ref> |
net_income = {{profit}}[[Pakistani rupee|PKR 26.753 Billion]] (2009)<ref name="Welcome to MCB Bank Limited"/> |
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'''Qaseen'''
'''MCB Bank Limited''' (formerly Muslim Commercial Bank) previously named as a (Mansoor Co-operative Bank)
was [[Incorporation (business)|incorporated]] by the [[Adamjee Group]] on July 9, 1947, under the Indian Companies Act, VII of 1913 as a limited company. The bank was established to provide banking facilities to the business community of South Asia. The bank was [[nationalized]] in 1974 during the government of [[Zulfikar Ali Bhutto]]. This was the first bank to be privatized in 1991 and the bank was purchased by a consortium of Pakistani corporate groups led by [[Nishat Group]]. As of June 2008, the Nishat Group owns a [[majority]] stake in the bank. The president of the bank is Imran Maqbool.


'''What I do''': Wiki & open knowledge consultant, and a director of the Appropedia Foundation, which runs [[Appropedia:|Appropedia]] ([[Appropedia|''Wikipedia article'']]), wiki for sustainability, appropriate technology & international development. [[appropedia:User:Chriswaterguy|My Appropedia homepage]] says more about my passions - in particular, international development, water and sanitation, sustainability, global public health, appropriate technology & renewable energies.
The group has a presence in business sectors of the country such as banking, textile, cement and insurance.


'''Cards on the table''': I'm currently working with the [[Global CCS Institute]][http://globalccsinstitute.com/] and as a result, I'm reading and I might see things that need editing in the area of [[carbon capture and storage]]. My approach will be to stick to uncontroversial edits (though I haven't done any such editing yet, as of 23:16, 14 November 2012 (UTC)) and to otherwise use talk pages and [[WP:COI+|other channels]]. (I know conflicts of interest are a sensitive topic on Wikipedia, so I've explained my position in detail here: [[/COI/]].)
[[Mian Mohammad Mansha]] is the Chairman of the group (and also MCB).


'''Oh, Wikipedia...''': I'm concerned that Wikipedia is losing its civility. I'm concerned that there's not enough encouragement, too much deletion rather than organized efforts to improve articles. I'd like to see deletion as a good faith process, [[Wikipedia:Transwiki|transwikiing]] or moving pages to userspace rather than officiously deleting them.
== Profitability ==
MCB is Pakistan’s fourth largest bank by assets having an asset base of USD 7 billion as at quarter 1, 2012, and the largest by market capitalization having a market capitalization recorded at USD 1.2 billion at year end 2011 which was comparatively lower than USD 1.8 billion the year before, mainly on account of lower market value.


'''Wikiholics unite''': On Wikipedia, I've contributed [http://en.wikichecker.com/user/?t=chriswaterguy&l=all more than 6000 edits], including 2800-ish in mainspace and [https://toolserver.org/~tparis/pages/index.php?name=Chriswaterguy&namespace=0&redirects=noredirects 70-ish new articles]. I do [[Appropedia:Special:Contributions/Chriswaterguy|much more editing]] on [[Appropedia:|Appropedia]], though my main role there, as a director, is supporting the community and working on partnerships.
The bank has a customer base of approximately 4 million and a nationwide distribution network of 1,190 branches including 22 Islamic banking branches (December 31, 2011) within Pakistan and eight branches outside the country (December 31, 2011 including the Karachi Export Processing Zone Branch), and over 650 ATMs in 110 cities, in a market with a population of over 190 million.


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In 2011, MCB reported a profit after tax of PKR 19.4 billion (appx.USD 205 million) and generated a return on average equity of 26.23% and a return on assets of 3.18% (2010: 3.13%) The bank’s asset quality is strong with a gross NPL ratio of 8.64%.
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'''The places:'''
MCB has 1165 branches (December 31, 2011) including local branches, and business establishments in SriLanka and Bahrain including newly established Rep. Office in Dubai, UAE. The bank has also formed a private company in Hong Kong (fully owned subsidiary of MCB) in partnership with Standard Chartered Bank, handling trade transactions of select countries in the Asia-Pacific region. To further strengthen its financial services base, MCB incorporated an asset management company in year 2005 known as MCB Asset Management Company. MCB has also incorporated a leasing company in Azerbaijan in 2009.
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The bank has also established an Islamic Banking unit to offer Shariah compliant products and services, with dedicated Islamic banking branches in six cities.
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The Wholesale Banking Group caters to the top tier of local and multinational companies.


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The Retail Banking Group focuses on trading and middle market segment primarily for building risk assets and trade related business. MCB caters to the financing of foreign and local trade, funds transfer and other seasonal requirements. The Bank has renovated a large number of branches and staff has been trained for meeting the requirements of SMEs and other retail customers.


===Collaborations===
An SME Financing Division has been set up to provide customized financing solutions. The group also focuses on the development of consumer asset products for satisfying the needs of the customers. MCB has a significant share of consumer financing business with its House and Car Financing schemes. The running financing facility against the mortgage of property is also expected to go a long way in increasing the quality consumer credit portfolio of the bank.
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[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Climate change|WikiProject Climate change]] &middot; [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Climate change|''talk'']]<br>
Other areas such as Bancassurance set newer records as well by crossing the Rupees 1 billion benchmark in 2011. Islamic Banking outperformed in terms of improved profitability and volumes with introduction of additional 11 products and expansion with 8 new branches in 2011 and Privilege Banking, an elite setup, is a benchmark in the industry. They have nine branches across major cities.
[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Energy development|WikiProject Energy development]] &middot; [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Energy development|''talk'']]<br>
[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Water purification|WikiProject Water purification]] &middot; [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Water purification|''talk'']]<br>
[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Urban studies and planning|WikiProject Urban studies and planning]] &middot; [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Urban studies and planning|''talk'']]<br>
[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias|WikiProject Countering systemic bias]] &middot; [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countering systemic bias|''talk'']]<br>
[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Community|WikiProject Community]] &middot; [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Community|''talk'']]<br>


''I sometimes post questions & point out problems in articles at:''<br>
== Information technology ==
[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Business and Economics|WikiProject Business and Economics]] &middot; [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Business and Economics|''talk'']].
MCB’s name is synonymous with ATM facility in the country as the bank has been a pioneer in introducing 24-hour cash withdrawal facility and on-screen transactions. MCB ATM/Debit Card, with its collaboration with VISA, can be used globally. The bank also pioneered the idea of sharing its ATM network with other banks by establishing an electronic platform for enhanced network accessibility and secured online transactions. This step has also played an important role in interconnecting all ATMs of the country.


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== Recognition at home and abroad ==
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Chriswaterguy&action=edit&section=new '''Use this link''']
MCB Bank Limited received Euromoney Award for Excellence nine times, which include “Best Bank in Asia” in 2008; five times “The Best Bank in Pakistan” award and one time “The Best Domestic Bank” award besides being declared the “The Best Domestic Bank in Pakistan” by Asia Money for the last two years. MCB Bank also received the “The Strongest Bank 2010” award by The Asian Banker for being Pakistan’s best-performing financial institution in 2010...


== MCB and Maybank ==
In 2005, the management of the bank abbreviated its name from Muslim Commercial Bank Limited to MCB Bank Limited to explore international markets; they were facing resistance due to the word Muslim especially from Western Countries to avail license. In 2008 the head office of MCB was shifted from Karachi to Lahore in a newly constructed building, namely MCB House located at Sharea Ghous-ul-Azam, commonly known as Jail Road.


Note sure what to do with this...'''[[/Chris Watkins|More]]''' - interests and opinions.<br><br>
The MCB Tower in Karachi serves as the MCB's headquarters, and is also the tallest building in Pakistan. MCB, advised by Merrill Lynch, became the fourth Pakistani Company (the other three being Hubco, PTCL and Chakwal cement - they all have been delisted) to list on the London Stock Exchange when it raised US$150 million global depositary receipts.


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In May 2008, Malaysian bank, Maybank and MCB signed an agreement, whereby Maybank acquired 20% of the ordinary shares in MCB from Nishat Group. The acquisition is in-line with Maybank’s strategy, as Malaysia’s financial services leader in the region, to build its presence in key growth markets across the region. It also paves the way for MCB, one of Pakistan’s premier financial services groups, to engage Maybank as its exclusive foreign commercial bank strategic partner.


=== Interesting...===
Maybank initially acquired from Nishat Group 94,241,527 ordinary shares in MCB, representing a 15% stake in the Bank, for a cash price of PKR470 per share. The total consideration paid was approximately US$686 million. The purchase price represented an 11.4% premium to MCB’s closing share price of PKR 422 on May 2, 2008, and a premium of 12.9% to the average closing share price for MCB over the 30 trading days immediately preceding the date of this announcement.


==== Issues with help ====
Based on MCB’s December 31, 2007 audited book value, the purchase price represents an implied price to book value multiple of 5.13x, a price to 2007 earnings multiple of 18.0x and a price to 2008 earnings multiple of 15.2x. In July 2008 Maybank exercised its right to increase its stake to 20%.
* {{cl|Wikipedia quick introductions}}
* [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2012-09-10/Op-ed|Fixing Wikipedia's help pages one key to editor retention]]


==== pages ====
The stake in MCB allows Maybank the right to appoint two Directors to represent its interest on the Board of MCB. One of these Directors was to be appointed immediately and the second Director will be appointed upon completion of the term of the existing Board, scheduled to be on March 27, 2009.
*[[Ronald Coase]] - an economist with interesting ideas about [[public good]]s. I must find some more good economics podcasts (like the excellent [http://www.abc.net.au/rn/boyerlectures/stories/2006/1769905.htm 2006 Boyer Lectures]). (If you have recommendations, please [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Chriswaterguy&action=edit&section=new tell me].)
*[[Hugh Thompson, Jr.]] - defended the innocent at My Lai.
*[[Right Livelihood Award]]
*[[MythBusters (season 1)]]... This is great! I don't have to watch the whole boring episode to find out what happens!
*[[Constructionist learning]] - one of the influences behind the [[One Laptop Per Child]] project.
*[[Kamal Kar]] - critic of standard approaches to development & aid.
*[[Julian Lincoln Simon]] - wrote about population & natural resources. An optimist.
*[[Cicisbeo]] - 18th Century Italian women had surprising freedoms.
*[[Shi Zhengrong]] founder and head of Suntech Power. Someone who's really doing something about solar power.
*[[User:Ihcoyc]] has a very amusing section of '''Favourite quotes from the Wikipedia'''.
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====A few users with similar interests====
As part of the transaction, Maybank and MCB are also expected to enter into a business cooperation arrangement which will include, among others, Islamic banking, retail banking, credit cards, asset management and SME banking. Maybank and MCB are also expected to benefit from increased business ties and trade flows between Pakistan and Malaysia
*[[User:Ericbritton]], [[User:LRG]], [[User:Curtbeckmann]] - sustainability.
*[[User:Vortexrealm]] - water.
*[[User:Georgedappilly]] - mosquito control.
*Some people who seem to be interested in developing country issues... [[User:Improv]], [[User:Anthere]], [[User:Ethanz]]...
*[[User:John Quiggin]] - Australian economist, somewhat lefty, who appears in the news occasionally.
*[[User:Guaka]] - a fellow [[CouchSurfing|CouchSurfer]], it seems, with some overlap of interests.
*[[User:Earthmytemple]]
...and many, many more of course.


==== user pages that I will probably get around to browsing, some time... ====
== MCB and RBS Pakistan ==
*[[User:Jimbo]] - the creator.
MCB Bank Ltd agreement to buy [[Royal Bank of Scotland]]'s Pakistan ops lapsed.
*[[User:Larry Sanger]]... if Jimbo's the creator, then Larry might be the devil, in some kind of gnostic view of co-creation followed by conflict. That's if I understand [[Gnosticism]], which I probably don't.
*[[User:Kierant]] - some interesting links.


== See also ==
==== bits from Wikipedia ====
:During the [[Indonesian 1998 Revolution|May 1998 Revolution]], when calls for political reform or ''reformasi'' in Indonesia led to the resignation of President [[Suharto]], Malaysian satirists Instant Cafe lampooned a government broadcast in which 'Malaysians are reminded that ''reformasi'' is an Indonesian word, which has no equivalent in Bahasa Melayu.' ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differences_between_Malay_and_Indonesian])
* [[Economy of Pakistan]]
* [[List of banks in Pakistan]]


====from elsewhere:====
==Notes==
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==References==
<caption>Javanese poetry [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javanese_script][http://masadit.blogdrive.com]</caption>
* [http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/business/09-mcb-signs-share-purchase-agreement-with-rbs-pakistan--szh-05/ Dawn News]
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hana caraka<br>
data sawala<br>
padha jayanya<br>
maga bathanga<br>
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knights<br>
differed in opinion<br>
equally powerful<br>
both corpse<ref>My own attempt at rendering the poem, drawing from ''[[Javanese script]]'' and [http://hanacaraka.fateback.com/bbd_ajisaka.htm this Indonesian translation]</ref>
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=== What I do on Wikipedia ===
==External links==
* Work on [[Wikipedia:WikiProject International development|development-related]] & [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Environment|sustainability-related]] articles
* [http://www.mcb.com.pk/ Muslim Commercial Bank]
* Put <sup>[[Wikipedia:Citing sources|citation needed]]</sup> on articles (using {{tl|fact}}). I've even used it on things I wrote myself, and very happy when someone [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Appropriate_technology&diff=next&oldid=43372472 replaces one with an excellent link]].
* [http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/business/09-mcb-signs-share-purchase-agreement-with-rbs-pakistan--szh-05/ Dawn News]
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* Promote love, joy, peace, etc (or try to).
* Do any minor edits I see that need doing (if I have a fast connection at the time)
* Ask questions that seem to need asking.


I think about one day doing more on other topics I want to learn about... so I'd be learning, researching, adding well-verified information when the articles are too skinny, and making suggestions on the user page... but not taking a strong position on what should and shouldn't be in the article. These topics include:
{{Banking in Pakistan}}
* A few of the articles in [[:Category:Alternative economy]]. Institutions such as [[Cooperative]]s, and practices such as [[Local currency]] & [[Local Exchange Trading Systems]] - I'm really not sure the latter are a good thing, though I suspect some variation of them would enable some people at some times to engage in the economy when a cash-based economy would not.
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[[Category:1947 establishments in Pakistan]]

[[Category:Banks established in 1947]]
'''[[/to_do|My pending tasks]] &middot; [[User:Chriswaterguy/Sandbox|My sandbox]] &middot; [[User:Chriswaterguy/Scratchpad|My scratchpad]] &middot; [[User:Chriswaterguy/Interests|My areas of interest]] &middot; [[User:Chriswaterguy/Appropriate technology|My notes on Appropriate technology]]'''
[[Category:Banks of Pakistan]]

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My key links: [[Appropriate technology]] &middot; [[Appropedia]] &middot; [[Appropedia:|site]]'''

'''General editing: [[Wikipedia:Guide to layout | Guide to layout]] &middot; [[Wikipedia:How to write a great article| How to write a great article]] &middot; [[Wikipedia:How to edit a page|How to edit a page]] &middot; [[User:David Gerard|Some articles on editing]] &middot; [[Wikipedia:Citing sources|Citing sources]] &middot; [[Wikipedia:Forum for Encyclopedic Standards|Forum for Encyclopedic Standards]]'''

'''Specific: [[Wikipedia:Cleanup resources | Cleanup resources]] &middot; [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub types|Stub types]] &middot; [[Template talk:Prettytable#Usage instructions|Prettytable]] &middot; [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Table Help:Table] &middot; [[Template talk:Divbox|Divbox]] &middot; [[Web colors]] &middot; [[Wikipedia:Userboxes | userboxes]] &middot; [[WP:TM/FORMAT|Format templates]] &middot; [[Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser|AutoWikiBrowser]].'''
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===Something cool about Wikipedia===
When English speakers see the words "From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" we probably think: cool, it's free, I don't have to pay. I realised that there more to it when using the [http://id.wikipedia.org Indonesian Wikipedia]. For "free" it didn't use the word ''gratis'' (no cost), but rather ''bebas'' (as in free from restrictions). Actually, both meanings are true of Wikipedia.

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Some quotes I like:
:''... There is a tide in the affairs of men Which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune; Omitted, all the voyage of their life Is bound in shallows and in miseries. ...'' - [[Shakespeare]], ''[[Julius Caesar (play)]]'' IV.iii, (c. [[1599]])

A Reader's Digest article of May 1980 quoted [[L Ron Hubbard]] as saying in the 1940s "Writing for a penny a word is ridiculous. If a man really wants to make a million dollars, the best way would be to start his own religion." -->

===Useful bits of wiki code===

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About me:

Qaseen

What I do: Wiki & open knowledge consultant, and a director of the Appropedia Foundation, which runs Appropedia (Wikipedia article), wiki for sustainability, appropriate technology & international development. My Appropedia homepage says more about my passions - in particular, international development, water and sanitation, sustainability, global public health, appropriate technology & renewable energies.

Cards on the table: I'm currently working with the Global CCS Institute[1] and as a result, I'm reading and I might see things that need editing in the area of carbon capture and storage. My approach will be to stick to uncontroversial edits (though I haven't done any such editing yet, as of 23:16, 14 November 2012 (UTC)) and to otherwise use talk pages and other channels. (I know conflicts of interest are a sensitive topic on Wikipedia, so I've explained my position in detail here: COI.)

Oh, Wikipedia...: I'm concerned that Wikipedia is losing its civility. I'm concerned that there's not enough encouragement, too much deletion rather than organized efforts to improve articles. I'd like to see deletion as a good faith process, transwikiing or moving pages to userspace rather than officiously deleting them.

Wikiholics unite: On Wikipedia, I've contributed more than 6000 edits, including 2800-ish in mainspace and 70-ish new articles. I do much more editing on Appropedia, though my main role there, as a director, is supporting the community and working on partnerships.

This is a Wikipedia user page.

If you find this page on any site other than Wikipedia, you are viewing a mirror site. The page may be outdated and the user may have no connection with the site you are viewing. The original page is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Qaseen.

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Wikiholic alert.
"My username is Chriswaterguy and I am a wikiholic."
  • I cancelled my plans to live and work in China when I learnt they blocked Wikipedia.
  • I often read non-fiction books and mark things that I want to put into Wikipedia. I now read blogs and ask the writer to consider using an open license so we can adapt it for Appropedia,
  • I'm a registered user of about 10 wikis (I've stopped counting, but way more than 10).

Yes I'm an addict. No, it's not a problem. I'm going to take a break, just as soon as I finish editing this...

Maybe I need a 12 step program...

  1. We admitted we were powerless over wiki-editing and our lives had become unmanageable.
  2. Came to believe that a power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
  3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him/Her/It/Them.
  4. When that failed, we took responsibility for our own actions.
  5. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
  6. Admitted the exact nature of our wrongs.
  7. Made a list of all the new experiences we had passed up because we were in a wiki-editing vortex, and became willing to try them all.
  8. Left the computer occasionally, in order to meet attractive people in real life, and flirt with them.
  9. Continued to take inventory and when we were wrong promptly reverted it.
  10. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Her, praying only for knowledge of Her will for us and the power to carry that out.
  11. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to wikiholics.
  12. Realized the irony of creating this notice.

Collaborations

WikiProject Climate change · talk
WikiProject Energy development · talk
WikiProject Water purification · talk
WikiProject Urban studies and planning · talk
WikiProject Countering systemic bias · talk
WikiProject Community · talk

I sometimes post questions & point out problems in articles at:
WikiProject Business and Economics · talk.

To leave me a message, click the "talk" tab, or Use this link


Note sure what to do with this...More - interests and opinions.

Interesting...

Issues with help

pages

A few users with similar interests

...and many, many more of course.

user pages that I will probably get around to browsing, some time...

  • User:Jimbo - the creator.
  • User:Larry Sanger... if Jimbo's the creator, then Larry might be the devil, in some kind of gnostic view of co-creation followed by conflict. That's if I understand Gnosticism, which I probably don't.
  • User:Kierant - some interesting links.

bits from Wikipedia

During the May 1998 Revolution, when calls for political reform or reformasi in Indonesia led to the resignation of President Suharto, Malaysian satirists Instant Cafe lampooned a government broadcast in which 'Malaysians are reminded that reformasi is an Indonesian word, which has no equivalent in Bahasa Melayu.' ([2])

from elsewhere:

Javanese poetry [3][4]

hana caraka
data sawala
padha jayanya
maga bathanga

knights
differed in opinion
equally powerful
both corpse[1]

  1. ^ My own attempt at rendering the poem, drawing from Javanese script and this Indonesian translation

What I do on Wikipedia

I think about one day doing more on other topics I want to learn about... so I'd be learning, researching, adding well-verified information when the articles are too skinny, and making suggestions on the user page... but not taking a strong position on what should and shouldn't be in the article. These topics include:

Read why I'm enthusiastic about Wikipedia.

My pending tasks · My sandbox · My scratchpad · My areas of interest · My notes on Appropriate technology

My key links: Appropriate technology · Appropedia · site

General editing: Guide to layout · How to write a great article · How to edit a page · Some articles on editing · Citing sources · Forum for Encyclopedic Standards

Specific: Cleanup resources · Stub types · Prettytable · Help:Table · Divbox · Web colors · userboxes · Format templates · AutoWikiBrowser.

Something cool about Wikipedia

When English speakers see the words "From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" we probably think: cool, it's free, I don't have to pay. I realised that there more to it when using the Indonesian Wikipedia. For "free" it didn't use the word gratis (no cost), but rather bebas (as in free from restrictions). Actually, both meanings are true of Wikipedia.


Useful bits of wiki code

Gallery and caption:

See User:Robchurch/Software/Captions in galleries

<gallery caption="Some pictures">
Image:name1|cap1
Image:name2|cap2
Image:name3|cap3
</gallery>

To put a line through a block of text (more than one paragraph):

<div style="text-decoration: line-through">    </div>

HTML attributes

Subpages

Pages with the prefix 'Chriswaterguy' in the 'User' and 'User talk' namespaces:

User:
Chriswaterguy