User talk:RHaworth/2019 Mar 06

Emotional Speech Blocks Deletion Syndrome

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London Skolars season 2019

Hi RHaworth, Please may I request you restore page London Skolars 2019 season, which I asked to be speedily deleted in error. Thank you, Gary — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gary Calder1966 (talk • contribs)

• There has never been a page called London Skolars 2019 season. So give me a link to the real page — if it existed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:33, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi RHaworth, please accept my apologies, the page was called 2019 London Skolars season, deleted at 23:34 on 14 February 2019. I think the link is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_London_Skolars_season Kind regards Gary — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gary Calder1966 (talk • contribs)

• Which is the best of these links: a) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_London_Skolars_season , b) 2019 London Skolars season and c) 2019 London Skolars season and why? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:57, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

VITA Zahnfabrik

Hi RHaworth, may I ask why you deleted yesterday my following request without any comment or explanation? Did I make any mistake? What can I else do for restoring the article? Thanks.

Hi RHaworth, long ago (in 2017) you deleted my page entitled User talk:Dinkelberger/VITA Zahnfabrik neu which should become a new version of the before deleted page VITA Zahnfabrik. I would like to edit the offending parts within a few days and therefore ask for a restoration either in user or draft space. Thanks in advance, Dinkelberger (talk) 08:27, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

• In posting your previous message you deleted an existing discussion thread so I reverted your edits as vandalism. Kindly have the decency to wait until someone who a) does not shout the word Vita and b) has no CoI, thinks your company is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs)#

Thank you for your teaching because I am not as experienced Wikipedia author as you, especially on the English pages. However, I would have expected more help than criticism. The "vandalism" was because my new thread was not inserted as expected at the end of your discussion, but in the middle. That's why I moved it immediately to the end. In the future, of course, I will do that through a revert and a new attempt. Since I was not the original creator of the topic, I am not responsible for uppercase spelling, but of course I could correct that in my intended deletion of the criticized advertising. Also, I have no connection to the company. She is in a neighboring town, I created the corresponding German article some years ago, discovered that it also had a short English article and just wanted to improve it. Dinkelberger (talk) 15:24, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

• Dinkelberger, I suspect you do not know how to read a "diff" report such as this one. Also you apparently have not seen the words "deleted an existing discussion thread". If you look lower on this page JBuckley93 gets a reply even though their message was in the wrong place. As to your article - take it to DRV if you must. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:27, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Deletion

hi. I noticed that you deleted Module talk:Track gauge/extra. However, when I tagged it for CSD I tried to explain that Module:Track gauge/extra should also be deleted (I couldn't tag that because it produces a lua error). Could you please csd the module itself? Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 20:31, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

• Oops! Sorry. Now actioned. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:27, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Deletion of Moderation Management

@RHaworth: I've been editing Wikipedia for 13 years and I'm shocked by the speedy deletion of this one. I have a very difficult time understanding how this was deleted under G11 as the tone of the article was not promotional and the majority of citations were from scholarly sources and discussed the organization in a neutral way. I believe this should of at least went to AfD. Archive.org link for non-admins: https://web.archive.org/web/20190219111822/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderation_Management . - Scarpy (talk) 16:53, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Almost by definition, a speedy deletion which is contested (on reasonably legitimate grounds) need to be restored (and presumably nominated at WP:AFD), and I'm sure that RHaworth will do this. Herostratus (talk) 21:45, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

@Herostratus: RHaworth is no where to be found. :/ - Scarpy (talk) 02:31, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Personally, I think the Wikipedia is a better place without the twice-deleted Moderation Management article. The group has always been small and I am not sure that it meets the notability guidelines for organizations. — Defendingaa (talk) 04:33, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

• I have at times been told re my activities here: "get a life". Well, I do have a life and am currently living it with less time than usual for Wikipedia. Scarpy, you are hopelessly impatient and the way that you took the matter so personally and went to ANI (see below) is totally ridiculous. See my contribution history for my edits today. Is there anything more you want me to do? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:27, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Over the years, I've noticed there are personality differences between Wikipedians who mostly create content and Wikipedians who mostly manage content. If you're in the bin of Wikipedians that mostly manage content, it would be worth developing an empathetic connection to the ones that mostly create content. If someone sunk hours and hours of work in to writing with NPOV with the goal of making useful encyclopedic content only to be told their contributions were hopelessly "unambiguously promotional", I'd worry about the person who didn't have a reaction more than the person who did. It's important to take pride in your work because you're more likely to create quality work if you do.

There was/is urgency here because there was/is an AfD in progress on Death of Amanda Froistad and there was context for that article's creation in the Talk:Moderation Management. The deletion of the Moderation Management article also made Death of Amanda Froistad look less notable, not to mention it created the need for more context in that article to explain what Moderation Management is and why that was relevant to the confession being made. I also say, for better or for worse, many Wikipedians look at any deletion of an article as a black mark on it forever. In reference to Moderation Management people are still pointing out "it was also deleted once in 2007."

You may also be interested in DGG's most recent comments, if you haven't seen them yet. - Scarpy (talk) 15:00, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

ANI

A matter of which you may have interest has been raised at ANI. Dlohcierekim (talk) 21:32, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

• See above. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:27, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Deletion review

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Moderation Management. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Scarpy (talk) 02:31, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

• See above. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:27, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Deletion of Draft:Salvatore J. Salamone

I was not given adequate time to respond to your request for deletion of this page. I do not believe this article fits within the criteria of section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, as it is not a duplicate of the previously deleted page. The page was completely re-done and has no similarities to the original article that was deleted in October 2018 at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Salvatore J. Salamone. Did you adequately review both articles before you deleted this version?

For reference, I modeled the new version on the following Wikipedia page: Guy Goodwin. If you review this approved page, and compare it to the contents of Draft:Salvatore J. Salamone you will find it meets the same criteria for approval. Otherwise, please delete Guy Goodwin and any similar pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JBuckley93 (talk • contribs) 05:05, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

• What on earth are you talking about? Salvatore J. Salamone and draft:Salvatore J. Salamone look pretty much identical to me. Other stuff exists is never a valid argument. If you want to try again there is another version live - see your contributions history. But my recommendation is: kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks the guy is notable and writes about him here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:47, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

If Other stuff exists doesn't matter, then please explain to me how the notability and the use of reliable sources of draft:Salvatore J. Salamone are not adequate enough for keeping the page on Wikipedia, otherwise I will not know how to improve the page. I made sure to use sources and notability requirements similar to other, approved Wikipedia pages of notable scientists and am at a loss. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JBuckley93 (talk • contribs) 18:37, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

• I have nothing to add to my previous reply above except to point out that I have reversed my deletion of Saladax Biomedical (see below). — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:59, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Labour against the Witch-hunt

Hi, Re Draft:Labour against the Witch-hunt, deleted for copyright infringement. I did not know that this would happen to a draft. Please can I have the text back so I can resolve the issue? — Jontel (talk) 12:38, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

• (talk page watcher) @Jontel: Unfortunately not, as copyright violations cannot be held anywhere on Wikipedia. However, since the text in question was effectively copied verbatim from this newspaper article, all you have to do is mine that for information and recast it in your own words. Incidentally, while terms like "witch hunt" are normal journalese, you should read our policy on our neutral point of view, and use...less colourful lingo :) good luck with the article. ——SerialNumber54129 12:54, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Serial Number 54129Thanks; I mean that the entire draft of the article ws deleted, and I did not have a copy. There were 25 references, not just the challenged text. One lives and learns. The name is the name of the organization which the article was about. — Jontel (talk) 13:27, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

• They sound great  :) cheers, Jontel. ——SerialNumber54129 15:02, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank, you RH! I'll keep a draft in future! Jontel (talk) 17:12, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

• You as the initiator of this thread, do not use {{tpw}} when you add to it! Text emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:34, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

OK, thanks. Sorry. Jontel (talk) 17:51, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Deletion of CTP Invest draft page

Captain Haworth, In December of 2018, a friend agreed to help begin a wiki entry for the company i work for, CTP Invest. He, also new to wikipedia, did a first draft and sent me a link asking to do a quick review, and if no problems, to hit the 'publish' button. I did a read, and thought it factually correct, and hit teh publish button.

Recently, i have been asked where the page is, and discovered that it had be almost immediately deleted by one, RHarwarth. i did a read to educate myself about the deletion process, principles etc. The entry you gave was 'copyright infringement'. What can be done to get the draft back up in action, and how can we resolve the copyright infrinement. it seems he may have simply copied some info from our generic 'about' page on our website. not sure that counts as 'copyright' infringement. In any case, what to do? and would be great to get the actual texts back so that we may re-edit them to avoid the infringing violations, if any.

I am the brand director at Ctp invest and together with my boss agreed to having an outsider do the original entry for our company. Best, Teakostel (talk) 16:37, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

• Copying from your website is of course a copyvio. Wikipedia is not a trade directory. Kindly have the decency to wait until someone who is genuinely an "outsider", ie. has never had any contact with your company, thinks it notable and writes about it here. If you want to see the text, read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:18, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Deleted content for Greg

Hi there, I noticed that an article of mine has been deleted for misuse of an article. I do not feel like I misused Wikipedia. Please let me know what I did wrong. This is all so new to me. The articles are The Grimm and Greg Ericksen. Also, I did not think they ever were published to Wikipedia-so I'm confused as why they would be completely deleted. I'll admit, I am on a learning curve and having trouble understanding this new world of creating and editing. Thank you for your help, JJ. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JJ Erick (talk • contribs) 18:13, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

• You have never touched the page called The Grimm and there has never been an article at Greg Ericksen. I have restored that which I deleted so all your edits are available to you. But kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks that you and your band are notable and writes about them here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:18, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Boiiii

Fuck you boiiii. — WikiKero (talk) 06:40, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

• I assume you are expressing your feelings about my deletion of draft:Pușcă(Pu$că) and user:WikiKero four months ago. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:18, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Saladax Biomedical

Although I requested speedy g11, since an established editor. Anthony Appleyard objected, and sent it to afd instead, it might be better to let Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Saladax Biomedical have a full discussion for the 7 days, rather than delete it speedy after the afd was placed. — DGG ( talk ) 09:37, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

• Restored. An AfD discussion will give me firmer ground to salt the title, if necessary, in the future. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:59, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Exactly. — DGG ( talk ) 02:40, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Upgrade (financial technology company)

RHaworth (talk · contribs), WP:Requests for deletion informed me that an AfC submission by myself was not eligible for restoration due to G11 speedied. Below is the submitted topic: I was mirroring similar stylistic writing on comparable Wikipedia main space articles, but understand that is a lazy excuse for submitting an AfC that was considered advertorial by several. If it is possible to restore the submission to the draft space, I will hold myself accountable for the idiocy and can assure you that I do not take these criticisms lightly. Last: it is not lost on me that you have better ways to occupy your time on the Project, so your reading this is greatly appreciated. — Farquaad44 (talk) 16:33, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

• You do not need to ping me on this page but you do need to provide a wikilink to the page about which you are talking. Restored. RoySmith, (Farquaad44, please note: this is an example of a valid ping.) this will probably continue to be rejected but please allow it six months to live in draft space. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:59, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Will do, thanks for the ping. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:03, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Alleged copyvio

Escambia_Wood_–_Pensacola as explained on the talkpage the material is copied from a US government publication. If the linked source is not part of the government they simply copied it from a copyright free government publication. This needs to be restored please. — Legacypac (talk) 19:05, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

• People might be shocked if they knew the average time I spend reading an article before I delete it. But in this case, I spent several minutes reading it and was satisfied that the subject was notable. Pontificalibus, please note the claim that this text (which is overly long) is publick domain. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:59, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	For quickly speedying the many pages myself and others send that way. — RhinosF1(chat)(status)(contribs) 19:34, 24 February 2019 (UTC) Thank you. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:59, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Draft:W-GDP

There seems to be a good case that it is PD-USgov. — DGG ( talk ) 02:42, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

• If Jamespauladamson requests here instead of moaning in the wrong place, I will give him advice on creating an article about this, probably notable, subject. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:34, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Shouting redacted

Hi RHaworth, I have created a page for my establishment and i was deleted. the references that have been linked with the deletion as an unambiguous copyright infringement are third party websites that hosts the venue profile the likes of third party in which we create our content there, third party website that hosts venue and our youtube page holding our content.

all i am saying we have a specific content that we use across all profiles and its a standardized process, hence finding the same content across all. regards, kamal — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fatherknight (talk • contribs) 21:37, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

• So what? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:34, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Edwin D. Fuller Draft Page Restore

Hello. I followed your instructions to get the article draft delivered via email. Please send the contents when you can. Thank you. Imjustvisiting (talk) 20:38, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

• Text emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:47, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Human-readable interpretation

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Human-readable interpretation. Since you had some involvement with the Human-readable interpretation redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. — Thryduulf (talk) 21:22, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

• Noted. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:06, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Richmond County Country Club (New York)

I am new to Wikipedia. The Richmond County Country Club was my first new submission. I was told the reason for the deletion was because I used copyrighted material from the club's website. Actually the material I used was from the golf association which was written long before the country club ever had a website. Yet the claim is that I got it from the website. How does someone know that I got the material from the website without asking? (Post submission noticed some material was a match to the associations material and asked club members how they built the website.)

Nowhere was I notified of the offending content. It is difficult to respond to generic messages. I was editing in a sandbox. I don't understand how or why a sandbox would be deleted. Was the deleted material archived and how do I get it back? Why was the delete done so quickly? I don't have the opportunity to check Wikipedia daily.

I have over 40 years experience in IT and have a good understanding of what is a sandbox. I'm a registered CMMI auditor and have implemented change, release, and configuration management best practices for very large well know organizations that work on a global scale. I was expecting feedback on grammar, content, and copyright infringement with an opportunity to satisfy all Wikipedia standards. I understand the workload Wikipedia reviewers must face and I continued to make updates post submission (I was working in a sandbox) to avoid copyright issues to to make sure what I wrote was correct in an attempt to help the reviewers. Thanks. — Cusack301 (talk) 22:59, 27 February 2019 (UTC) cusack301

• Cusack301, slightly redundant to reply since, as I am very pleased to see, you have got over your initial annoyance and re-created the article. But I will reply to a couple of points. "I have over 40 years experience in IT" - so what? I claim 50 years experience but a) experience in IT has only limited relevance to editing Wikipedia articles and b) articles are judged on their content not on their authors. "How does someone know that I got the material from the website without asking?" Very simply: the page in question says at the bottom "All Rights Reserved" so your use of it was copyvio. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:06, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Template:*mp

See the reversal of the deletion of this template and this thread at tfd (common courtesy notification). — Frietjes (talk) 01:04, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

• Learn to provide a link whenever you talk about a page thus: template:*mp or {{*mp}}. I have no objection to its restoration. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:06, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Module:HtmlBuilder/testcases

You forgot to delete this subpage when you deleted the main module. — {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 03:15, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

• Pppery, next time don't tell me - just slap {{db-subpage}} on it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs)

Application for Restoring my userpage

Dear Roger W. Haworth, I am a volunteer Wiki Contributor and contributing to enrich with more information to several articles from Bangladesh. Previously, I was trying to Add some Young Entrepreneurs profile in Wikipedia to encourage their social activities, which were not appropriate enough. So, all those pages got a speedy deletion. I understand my fault and ending with a promising note that, I will be more careful about what I am publishing in Wikipedia from very next. Can I please, get my user page "Tanvirshopno" restored? Thankfully - Tanvir Shopno https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tanvirshopno — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tanvirshopno (talk • contribs) 11:02, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

• You cannot be serious: it was a classick fake article. Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI writes in mainspace about what you do in the real world. You may create a user page for yourself, written in the first person and telling what you do on Wikipedia. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:06, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Pink and black

cc Liz. Would you consider restoring draft:pink black? I stumbled upon this and submitted it to AfC because I thought it should be considered by a reviewer; I did that specifically knowing it would remove G13 eligibility from the draft. Still, it was tagged and deleted, so would you mind restoring it please? ~ Amory (u • t • c) 15:02, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

• You should have been more bold. See what I have done. I was a bit dubious about it but let us watch - it will probably survive. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:06, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

WP:ORGNAME violation

FYI Wikipedia:Teahouse#User:LearnUkrainian/Ukrainian_Language_and_Culture_School Cheers, TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 18:20, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

• Actioned. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:06, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Bulelwa Madekurozwa

Request to restore draft:Bulelwa Madekurozwa. I abandoned this draft some time ago, and it was rightfully deleted. I'd like to work on it now and get it up to snuff. — Rac8f (talk) 18:50, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

• Actioned. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:06, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Chas. Floyd Johnson

Hello Mr. Haworth, I see you deleted my page for "Chas. Floyd Johnson" today. Yes, the original version of the page was tagged for deletion but I worked hard to resolve the issues. I got the Copyvios score down to 4.8%. The only things flagged were things like "born in Camden, New Jersey", or his job titles, or place names where he worked or studied. This is my first contribution from scratch and would appreciate it if you would consider restoring the page, or at least giving me permission to try again. Also, any guidance/advice you could provide me is also appreciated. Cheers, Brian Saunders Bksaunders (talk) 21:58, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

• Rac8f (see previous thread) gave a link so the request gets actioned.