Talk:Manchester United F.C.

Kit/Sponsors

Worth adding a list of kit manufactures/sponsors as per the list at Peterborough_United_F.C.#Kit_sponsors_and_manufacturers?109.155.249.27 (talk) 13:29, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

It's already exists, in Sponsorship tab, under Global brand.
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 13:50, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

D'oh! Wonder how I missed that! 109.155.249.27 (talk) 20:10, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 26xbing, 6 September 2011

26xbing (talk) 04:16, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

 Done --Jnorton7558 (talk) 11:52, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Third kit

The 2011/12 Premier League handbook confirms this year's third kit is last season's away kit. Link (check page 33). I have no idea how to do the illustrations, so is there any chance someone could add it? Decorativeedison (talk) 22:46, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

 Done, thank you.
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 22:51, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Reserves vs. First Team

The Carling Cup game last night seemed to throw up a few points of contention about the squad. There needs to be some sort of clarification about who qualifies as a member of the first team and who doesn't. - --Des2501 (talk) 09:18, 21 September 2011 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Faisalyaqob, 25 September 2011

Hi

I am Faisal and recently joined your portal but have been using wikipedia from a long time. Keeping in mind the online popularity of Manchester United Shirts, i want to add my website link in this article's part independent sites as i could not find any site link's in this article fully devoted to Manchester United shirts to serve the viewers looking for MU Shirts source on wikipedia.

Faisalyaqob (talk) 11:12, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Dynamic|cimanyD contact me ⁞ my edits 17:02, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Most Successful Club?

I think there should be further debate about what constitutes success in terms of trophies. At the moment the club which is considered the most successful according to wikipedia is Manchester United because they have won a few more trophies than liverpool; according to the article 'Football records in England' they have won 60 trophies compared to Liverpool's 58. Yes they have won more trophies than Liverpool - However not all trophies are of equal value and the fact that Liverpool has won two more champions leagues than Man U (easily the most prestigious trophy in club football) should be recognised when talking about the clubs in terms of success. Every football fan knows that one champions league is worth ten FA cups or a few league titles, so shouldn't this factor be taken into account when deciding which club is the most successful. Under the current system a club could win the league cup 61 times and be the most successful club in England according to the current system and that is frankly indicative of a flawed system.

I will be posting this on the Liverpool fc disscussion page as well so that some discourse on this subject can finally happen. 86.6.106.166 (talk) 12:01, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

I agree that certain trophies are more prestigious than others, but it would be very dificult to quantify them. How do you know if one Champions League equals ten FA cups, why not nine, or eight. And the fact the trophies have been won over such a long period of time, the competition formats have changed considerably a la Champions League/European Cup and First Division/Premier League. Eddie6705 (talk) 14:17, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

I've edited this and the Liverpool F.C. articles to remove the "most successful" claim, and these edits reflect the change in wording in Football records in England. There's no singular accepted metric for "most successful", even if there's general agreement on the most successful English club, and simply listing the number of titles seems enough to convey this information without resorting to WP:OR or WP:PEACOCK. --Mosmof (talk) 19:12, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Is or are?

Normally in British English groups like football clubs and bands are referred to as plurals. Why is this one singular? --John (talk) 01:13, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

It's complicated: "Manchester United are" vs. "the club is". Malleus Fatuorum 01:24, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

It is not complicated. WP:PLURALS is clear. I tried this but somebody told me that it was a FAC stuff. Tbhotch.^™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 01:41, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

You simply display your ignorance. Malleus Fatuorum 01:48, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I'm an ignorant and I'm glad to not be Mr. Know it all. Anyway, can I start to WP:POINT coldplay, The Beatles, Burnley F.C. or Crystal Palace F.C.? Those ignorant people need to know how ignorants they are and that you are a knowledge God. Tbhotch.^™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 01:52, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Please carry on, so everyone can see what an ignorant arse you are. Malleus Fatuorum 01:54, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

• WP:PLURALS seems to suggest that "Manchester United are" would be the proper form, unless I am misreading it. Am I? --John (talk) 01:56, 26 October 2011 (UTC)