User talk:Theroadislong

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Dr. Steven E. Salterio

Hi,

I made changes to the article you rejected in my sandbox. I am not sure if you can see the changes in my sandbox as I am doing this for the first time and would appreciate your guidance.

Draft:Daniel Dugué wikipedia page

I added several external sources that are independent from the subject:

1. An article by Juliette Leloup describing his dissertation and published in the Electronic Journ@l for History of Probability and Statistics: http://www.jehps.net/Decembre2010/Leloup.pdf

2. Description of his contribution to the rigorous theory of the maximum likelihood estimator by Stephen Stigler published in Statistical Science: https://projecteuclid.org/euclid.ss/1207580174

3. Link to the Mathematics Genealogy Project: https://www.genealogy.math.ndsu.nodak.edu/id.php?id=72828

4. Link to the website of ISUP verifying that he was its director: http://isup.sorbonne-universite.fr/fr/l_ecole/histoire-de-l-isup.html

5. Link verifying all other facts of his biography published in Journal de la société statistique de Paris: http://www.numdam.org/article/JSFS_1987__128__258_0.pdf

Please let me know how can I improve this entry further so that it could be made into an article. He already has a French Wikipedia page: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Dugu%C3%A9

Request on 13:14:03, 26 April 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Purple Rain Magic

• Purple Rain Magic (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:The Clamps (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello, I'm trying to have the validation on this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_Clamps But it seems it's not suitable for wikipedia "(This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia."

So basically, as 95% of artist articles on wikipedia. (Could someone explain me as this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jade_(producer) or this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Prophecies are validated and not that one)

Could someone help me to fill out correctly please.

Best regards

Purple Rain Magic (talk) 13:14, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Please see other poor articles exist, just because there are some poor quality articles out there doesn't mean we need more. I have tagged Jade (producer) for lack of notability and sent Future Prophecies to WP:AFD, thank you. Theroadislong (talk) 13:36, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

I added multiple in-depth coverage of them in reliable sources not mere mentions or listings. For example Trax Mag is the biggest media for electronic music in France, YourEDM , one of the biggest in the world, being played on BBC radio 1 several times (it's just possible to found tracklist on theif website to prove it) etc etc... What kind of source could be more reliable than these about music electronic and even more about Drum & Bass? Please let me know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Purple Rain Magic (talk • contribs) 14:02, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

My article is rejected. Help me understand errors.

Hi there,

I just submitted an article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Santosh_Thammaiah) on a person who is not me OR my relative and the article was declined by you just a few minutes ago. Santosh is a renowned journalist, author, and columnist.

As I am new with article creation on Wiki, I would like to know where I went wrong and what measures can make this a better and worthy article.

Since you are a reviewer who declined it, you would be the better person to assist in this regard. Please help!

Regards, Devara Aata — Preceding unsigned comment added by DevaraAata (talk • contribs) 16:24, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Did you read the explanation in the decline? The submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people and Wikipedia, YouTube and Amazon are not reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 16:40, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Need Help for SysTools Company page as reviewed by you

Page is in draft - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:SysTools

Help me for the all changes and suggest as soon possible, I will do needful

Message -> "This article may have been created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use. It may require clean-up to comply with Wikipedia's content policies. (April 2020) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anuraag Singh (talk • contribs) 12:49, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

You have spent 5 years trying to get your own company on Wikipedia, please stop, once your company is notable in Wikipedia terms someone else will create an article. Theroadislong (talk) 13:08, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Kim Flores

Hi ... just asking if you have time to evaluate my draft and check if it is still won’t pass the criteria... thanks and more power — Preceding unsigned comment added by Via Leopardi (talk • contribs) 15:39, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of my page

Kindly read the contents before deletion, the page is about a public institution for arts and culture. I am an independent editor with no personal interest in it!! thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Factedits (talk • contribs) 16:21, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

It was on your user page though? See WP:USERPAGE for what you can put there. Theroadislong (talk) 17:11, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Factedits, it was also copied verbatim from this copyright page. You may not copy content from non-free external sources into Wikipedia – that is considered copyright violation. Please don't do so again! Thank you, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:41, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Edith Farmiloe

Hello Theroadislong

Thanks for your helpful comments on the Edith Farmiloe 'stub'. I did some work on this artist's life a year or so ago and received what seemed like a rejection. As I noted in a recent question to Wikipedia editors - nameless, faceless, etc - I didn't really understand what was wrong. I suppose I should be more active on Wikipedia but the truth is I am not. Can you advise, help, encourage me further?

Adelphi14 (talk) 11:38, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

You need to submit the draft Draft:Edith Farmiloe by clicking the blue submit button. Theroadislong (talk) 12:03, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Trang T. Lê  reliable sources questions

Hi Theroadislong, thank you for reading my submission. I was wondering if you can review my list of (4) sources to see if they are “reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject”. I would like to clarify that these would be accepted before resubmitting my draft.

thank you again for your time

Namnguyen408 (talk) 04:34, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Namnguyen408 Number 2 is not independent and number 4 is a blog which is not considered reliable the rest look good though. Theroadislong (talk) 07:14, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Theroadislong, Thank you for the clarification! Can you please review the modified draft of Draft:Trang T. Lê before I officially resubmit it? (I'd like to get it approved from you before resubmitting and waiting months for another possible decline). So, what steps would I need to take for you to review my recently modified draft? Would I need to click "Publish changes" on the Draft:Trang T. Lê edit page? I am unfamiliar with which process would be most efficient.

Thank you for your quick response.

Namnguyen408 (talk) 15:45, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

It would need more sources before I accepted it, feel free to re-submit and let another reviewer take a look. Theroadislong (talk) 15:52, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Theroadislong, How many more sources would it need? What deems "significant coverage"? and I believe I have provided sources about the subject in published, reliable, secondary that are independent of the subject. Or am I mistaken. thank you for the help Namnguyen408 (talk) 16:22, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: User:Mro(Mru) people

Hello Theroadislong. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of User:Mro(Mru) people, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: This would appear to be a draft article, judging by the layout and pictures etc. I can't read it, but it seems like it's in line with WP goals. Speedy delete isn't the way to go on this, it needs a wider review. Thank you. GedUK  07:45, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Ged UK It has been speedy deleted before, I would have moved it to draft but we already have an article here Mru people (Mrucha). Theroadislong (talk) 07:50, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Then it's a user using their userspace as a draft area. Don't think that's reason enough to speedy. Probably should be in a sandbox page on their userspace, but I doubt a new user is going to find that easily. GedUK  07:59, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

I have moved it to Draft:Mro(Mru) people. Theroadislong (talk) 08:02, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Question about deleting a page

Hello @Theroadislong:! Can I ask you something? Is it possible to delete a page (my own page, of course) and then write another one with the same content? I'm just curious though. Thank you. 08:11, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Yes you can just blank it and start again I presume it's this one Draft:Hadrian Wine. Theroadislong (talk) 08:15, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Yes, it's the Hadrian Wine. I was thinking of deleting it and then open a new sandbox to write the same content. Anyway, thank you for responding to my query. Btw, before I forgot, may I know what code to use if I want my page to be deleted? Piero.hatria (talk) 08:38, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Just blank all the content and I will mark it for deletion. Theroadislong (talk) 08:49, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

All done! Thank you! Piero.hatria (talk) 08:59, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Request on 14:50:14, 29 April 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Rajaneesh.R.Nayak

• Rajaneesh.R.Nayak (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Sanathana Saraswath Brahmin (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Rajaneesh.R.Nayak (talk) 14:50, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Draft:WinDev

Hello Theroadislong. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Draft:WinDev, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: bit early on a draft I think. Give it a chance to develop. Thank you. GedUK  16:36, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Ged UK It has been speedy deleted twice in the past two days, this is just a re-creation of the same advert. Theroadislong (talk) 16:40, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Well if it keeps being as quick as that, then no-one else is giving it a chance. Relist it if you want, I won't review it again. GedUK  18:26, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Why are you doing this?

Hello Theroadislong.

Why are you copying and pasting this to all of our talk pages?

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. While we appreciate that you enjoy using Wikipedia, please note that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a social network. Wikipedia is not a place to socialize or write things that are not directly related to improving the encyclopedia. Off-topic material may be deleted at any time. We're sorry if this message has discouraged you from editing here, but the ultimate goal of this website is to build an encyclopedia. Thank you.

It makes no sense, cause we all get it. We know that on our own. Thanks, but no thanks.

Shadowblade08 (talk) 19:40, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

You have made a total of 330 edits, only 3 of which were to main space articles Aaron Belz and Figure skating at the 1990 Goodwill Games which were both reverted. You do not appear to be here to build an encyclopaedia you appear to be here to socialise. Theroadislong (talk) 21:17, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

It kinda seems like everyone want's me to be banned... your already mean enough, just finish me off, cause I don't care, i'm here to edit, and you blame be for this. (your weird) Why does everyone hate me?? Man, when my Dad finds out about this, he will be super mad.

User:Shadowblade08 (talk) 19:39, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Updated pages with comprehensive info

Can you review my updated wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Angelina_Danilova again? I've updated it with comprehensive info including her careerm awards, works, activities and a bunch of references. Thanks a lot! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiuser1564657576 (talk • contribs) 20:19, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

No... I will leave it for another reviewer. Theroadislong (talk) 21:01, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

May 2020 at Women in Red

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Citing sources

In regards to my edit of Mary Mary, I realize that the source may not have been within citation guidelines, however, it was in *good faith* and I did not have better citation to give it, because said citation is not available to the public. Not that the information of where I came in contact with that theory doesn't exist, just that I am not at liberty to give it. And if it is a "theory" does it have to be? I did however use as many appropriate links to the plants themselves and any other information I could to back up the *logic* of the information. I believe that an encyclopedia is only as good as the completeness of it's information, not how "approved" its author (or in this case authors) are. If the information was out there on a million web pages, why would it need to be here? I also don't believe that I made any personally biased comments, or first person usages. If I am in error, please let me know and I will reword appropriately.

The removal of my prior comments were because I don't believe in airing dirty laundry in public. I only edit where I feel I can make Wikipedia better and more informative. Therefore I make edits infrequently, so I was unaware the area was public (it said at the bottom of the page it was in a "hidden" area.) However, that doesn't change the fact that I still don't understand your logic behind criticizing me for a "biased" or badly cited source one day, yet have an issue when I find someone elses biased material (of which it is obvious they have no first hand knowledge of) and edit it. Especially when I left reasons both times, one of which you quoted back at me, so I know they were there.

I believe both of the issues at hand follow the "good faith" rules and neither constitute "obvious vandalism." I also wish you had discussed the issues you saw with me before reverting. It is very discouraging to volunteer here only to have someone say your trying to help isn't good enough. I hope this is more constructive than my last missive. Ladyisarma (talk) 10:49, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

All content added to Wikipedia requires a reliable source please click the link for more info. Wikipedia has no interest in what you or I know, it ONLY reports on what independent reliable sources have said about a subject. Theroadislong (talk) 10:54, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Chris van Boxtel

Hi,

Thank you!

What would you suggest to improve the article for it to pass all criteria?

Many thanks and kind regards, Liliya Eugenevna Ziganshina — Preceding unsigned comment added by Лилия Евгеньевна Зиганшина (talk • contribs) 14:33, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Peter Li

This is about my proposed article on Peter Li, which was rejected for needing independent sources. What would this look like? The citation by the American Academy of Arts and Sciences seems like it alone should suffice.

Gumshoe2 (talk) 20:37, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

That is a primary source and does nothing to establish notability. Wikipedia requires multiple in -depth coverage of him in reliable sources unconnected with the subject. Theroadislong (talk) 20:43, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: မြို(မြုံ)

Hello Theroadislong. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of မြို(မြုံ), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The redirect meets WP:FORRED as the Mru people live in Burma. Thank you. Passengerpigeon (talk) 11:14, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Aldo Gentilini

Hello Sir, if you see on the Reliable References you find Archivio Luce that is the maximum authority for all video and photos of history of Italy, not only about this artist. It speaks about all politic, culture and economy of Italy, see the link please. https://www.archivioluce.com Let me know please why for you this is not enough.

Thank you very much, Marco

Wikipedia requires multiple in-depth coverage of the subject not mere listings. Theroadislong (talk) 09:48, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Harput Castle

How is Harput Castle not significant when it's an ancient structure and is an icon of the city of Harpoot? 176.33.53.10 (talk) 12:56, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Your draft has no sources. Theroadislong (talk) 12:57, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

It's got one in the bottom. I'll probably need to find and add more though. Thanks, 176.33.53.10 (talk) 13:42, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) It has a source because I added one when I saw the above messages. The article is moving in the right direction at the moment with recent additions, thanks IP.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 14:11, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Request

Sir did you watch my youtube video in references and checked my proof well sir ? Georgeadelmoureed (talk) 13:41, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

No I didn't, YouTube is not a reliable source for anything on Wikipedia. Theroadislong (talk) 14:14, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Ok help me sir, should I rewrite my proof in the same article of my conjecture ? Georgeadelmoureed (talk) 14:21, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

I'm afraid Wikipedia does not accept original research, so is not the correct venue for you. Theroadislong (talk) 14:37, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)Wikipedia is not for stuff you made up one day. If you publish an article in an actual mathematics journal, and actual mathematicians comment on your conjecture, then and only then would there be a place for an article about it; and such an article, of course, would have to be written by somebody who is not you and does not have your obvious conflict of interest. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:07, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Title Change

• Fine-tuned universe (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hi Theroadislong, The title of the section 'Religious Apologetics' is seemingly inconsistent with the rest of the article. Why in the previous sections were the stated theories such as 'Multiverse' and 'Alien design' not headlined with similar -implicitly- undermining titles like 'Alien Design Claim' or 'Multiverse illusion'? The title is unnecessarily provoking for people with faith. Therefore, I suggest changing the title to something like 'Religious View/Perspective' or reverting the changes.

Thank you JackNickol (talk) 22:12, 3 May 2020 (UTC)Jack

The place to discuss this, is the article talk page, but the title "Religious Apologetics" simply means the discipline of defending religious doctrines through systematic argumentation and discourse, it does NOT provoke people of faith? Theroadislong (talk) 06:29, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Nagy

As a matter of interest, he's been over on the Welsh wikipedia adding his name to articles, with edit summaries (in English) that claim him to be "highly notable in my own right". Consequently he's already blocked over there.Deb (talk) 08:13, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Well! I didn't even know there was a Welsh Wikipedia, must take a look. Thanks. Theroadislong (talk) 08:15, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Request on 07:59:13, 6 May 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by MLMon

• MLMon (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Adam Billyard (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello and thank you very much for reviewing my article on Adam Billyard. It is my first article and I am not entirely sure which of the sources I have used are not valid. For instance, I understand that links to company websites should be removed - and will do it promptly. However, is the Companies House website considered a primary source that I should remove? Thank you very much in advance for your help.

MLMon (talk) 07:59, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Athena submission

Hello Theroadislong,

We just see you rejected our submission: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Athena

We don't understand exactly why, because athena was a main pioneer website when we were building the Web of Culture.

Source references (books, magazines, websites) are reliable and completely independent from the athena project.

A copy of some sources can be found here: http://athena.unige.ch/athena/perroud/publications/perroud-athena-links.html However we didn't add this page to the draft.

Please could you explain what should be done.

Yours

Pierre Perroud

Hello!

I just want to say that I really like the photos that you take. Also, your articles are really professional and helpful. Thank you for making Wikipedia just a little bit better! Happy editing, Dani Hart (Talk) 18:40, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Athena concern

Hello, May be we don't understand well English. In your answer it seems you write that we have a financial interest in our website. This is completely wrong. We are not paid for the site. We pay nothing to Geneva University where it is hosted. We sell nothing. We track nobody. There is only free access literature and mineralogical data since more than 20 years. This website was created in the time of Mosaic browser, when there was no Google, no Wiki and when enthusiast colleagues from University and CERN began to build www. This website is a part of the web history (as Project Gutenberg in the USA). Please explain me what is wrong. Yours. Pierre — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiki-pjrp (talk • contribs) 09:35, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

But you do have a conflict of interest though, I will change the tag. Theroadislong (talk) 09:48, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Noam Yaron

Hi !

Thank you for reviewing my article!

I edited all the non-neutral places and deleted all the IMDB references, let me know if you see any I might have missed.

But I don't understand what do you mean by "delete all external links". Can you help me ?

Thank you again ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chiconono (talk • contribs) 10:09, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

We don't use external links in the body of the article they belong in a separate section at the end, some might be suitable for conversion into references though. Theroadislong (talk) 10:29, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

SwissHoldings (talk) 13:11, 7 May 2020 (UTC)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SwissHoldings

We were very surprised by the decline of the article on Karl Hofstetter (Legal Scholar) as the exact same article has been published already a while ago on the German Wikipedia page. What is the real issue: only the fact that it was submitted by the person in charge of PR at Swissholdings, one of the organizations chaired by Prof. Hofstetter? Or were there serious formal mistakes, e. g. references to sources in German? Thank you for more specific feedback on how to cure any perceived deficiencies.SwissHoldings (talk) 13:11, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Who is "we" ? User accounts are strictly for single person use. Paid editing will always be more carefully scrutinised. The draft requires more secondary sources and editing for neutral tone "a renowned expert" " internationally reputed legal scholar" are just PR trumpery and it's not clear what he is actually notable for? Does he pass the criteria at Wikipedia:Notability (academics). Theroadislong (talk) 13:22, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) I've blocked them per Wikipedia's username policy. Their username represents a group/company and the "we" just solidifies this. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 14:10, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

hi thank you for being nice to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Logan Marie Elias (talk • contribs) 20:59, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

hi. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Logan Marie Elias (talk • contribs) 21:02, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Bella Emburg

Hello. Re. the two Edits you made of mine on the above Subject's Page. Does "Unsourced" include the release of that information and programme on a DVD ?, in this case , "The Lost Frankie Howards'". I bought it several months ago, and have watched this "Unsource"[d] episode. Also, you wrote that the "IMDB is not a reliable source". If Wikipaedia was a more reliable one, then surely Editors themselves shouldn't be necessary ? It should be a Rule that no information from the IMDB is allowed; otherwise, assuming the aforementioned that Wikipaedia isn't irreproachable, or at least as faliable as the IMDB, that means the truth, here, is to be discredited,penalised, merely because, unlike others, I've honestly stated the origin of what's at least the equivalent possibility. How do we know that the 'allowed' place of death, itself, didn't come from the IMDB ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heath St John (talk • contribs) 11:26, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

"Unsourced" means that you didn't provide a source for your content, ALL content on Wikipedia requires a reliable source. IMDb is deemed not to be a reliable source because is is user generated. The place of death is sourced to a newspaper not IMDb. Theroadislong (talk) 11:56, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Editing.

Hello. I have no objection to the receiving messages from you. You've my permission to do so. Aside from observing that we disagree that poorly "Source"[d[ material includes referring to articles that are now available on DVD, as proof ,(such as the Millicent Martin appearances on 'Tell me Another), what, please, I ask of you is to try and not be so threateningly-blunt in your tone. There's no need for it. I'm not above listening and learning. But you'll discover that voices which seek to give instruction to those if not at, but near, the back of the class, become more audible not by being raised, but by being mellowed. You need to reach the mind, not just the ear. I shall, please, leave it there. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heath St John (talk • contribs) 12:44, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

The messages on your talk page are automatically generated, there are usually four levels of increasing severity. I'm sorry you don't agree about sourcing but that is how Wikipedia works. Re your comment here [[1]] about "Wikipedia's staff", Wikipedia does not have staff we are all volunteer editors here, just like you. Having material on a DVD is irrelevant unless you are supporting the content with an actual source that says it is on a DVD, click on the link for more details. We cannot rely on your word, there has to be a published source for all content. Theroadislong (talk) 13:27, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

/* Makoto Naruse */

So what am i supposed to do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JaredT041199 (talk • contribs) 18:31, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Find significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources to show notability. Theroadislong (talk) 18:37, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Draft Hamad Arbabi

Hi there, I saw your comment on the page I was creating for an athlete in my country. It is my first article, and I am unsure what the exact issue of the reference section. I added all the news articles that are available online (again they are in Arabic) that relate to the player and the tournaments mentioned in the article. As well as, the YouTube link is from both Qatar and Kuwait associations (respectively) covering the tournaments the player participated in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arbabi4 (talk • contribs) 12:40, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Richa Lakhera

Hi Theroadislong! A user came to the Wikipedia IRC channel asking about the {{Undisclosed paid}} tag you placed on Draft:Richa Lakhera. Per the instructions at Template:Undisclosed_paid#Usage, could you please place a message at User talk:Rachit.edunomics explaining why you added the tag? Also, I don't think that {{draft article}} belongs inside {{Multiple issues}}. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 02:37, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Fiona Skinner | A Royal Night Out

Sources:

https://pro.imdb.com/name/nm4787232/ https://pro.imdb.com/title/tt1837562/ https://www.bfi.org.uk/films-tv-people/51dddd64c53e7 https://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/fiona_skinner https://www.jamesfosterltd.co.uk/fiona-skinner-a-royal-night-out/ https://twitter.com/JamesFosterLTD/status/945674577195274241 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.32.123.177 (talk) 13:26, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

89.32.123.177 Not sure why you have posted these here? IMDb is never a reliable source, neither is Twitter. Theroadislong (talk) 14:20, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Watch the film then and see the credits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.32.123.177 (talk) 14:30, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Sorry but Wikipedia requires independent published sources, not my knowledge or yours. Theroadislong (talk) 14:34, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

As provided above. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.32.123.177 (talk) 14:36, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

To be mentioned in the "A Royal Night Out" article you will need to provide in depth coverage of her part, not just mere listings. Theroadislong (talk) 14:40, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Ankit Kumar Pandey

how can i prove my sources to be reliableAnkit Krs Pandey (talk) 08:27, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Facebook, Linkedin, Twitter and Instagram are rarely ever suitable reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 08:36, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Question

Ok, how do you submit for review once I am done adding more sources??? Thanks, Dani Hart (Talk) 19:47, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Click the large blue button that says "Submit". Theroadislong (talk) 19:55, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Jon Smith

Hi Theroadislong

Here's the source - https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=R-C_AwAAQBAJ&pg=PT125&lpg=PT125&dq=one+night+in+turin+jon+smith&redir_esc=y&hl=en#v=onepage&q=one%20night%20in%20turin%20jon%20smith&f=false — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iregno8 (talk • contribs) 11:59, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Moving drafts to the mainspace to seek deletion

Practices such as this move and subsequent deletion nomination are inadvisable per WP:UP/RFC2016 section B3, which is codified at WP:STALEDRAFT. Just a friendly heads-up. That RfC was held because it was being done quite a bit (and regarded the userspace), not seemingly just once in a semi-unique case like this. Warm regards, — Godsy ^(TALK_CONT) 22:19, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for that, (a long read!) it was a one off, I was neutral as to whether it should be deleted, and the result was that the draft was kept and has been improved rather than languishing as a rejected draft. I will not take this road again. Cheers. Theroadislong (talk) 07:25, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Comments on Thomas Walker & Son

Thank you for your comments on my Thomas Walker article. Very helpful.

I am gradually improving it. Waiting to access a couple of sources which I hope will add useful independent verification.

I will then make further changes and re-submit.

Regards

Philip

--PJE Walker (talk) 12:39, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Thomas Walker & Son

Hello again, I wanted to seek your advice on the 'close connection' question.

Yes, I am distantly related to Thomas Walker, but the company does not exist any longer, and I do not, and have never, received any benefit financially or otherwise from Thomas Walker and there is no possibility of me gaining any advantage from doing the research and publishing on Wikipedia. What more can I say?

Kind regards

Philip

--PJE Walker (talk) 12:52, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Evolutionism

Thanks for your comment, but I do stand by what I stated. When discussing a scientific theory it is essential to distinguish between facts and theories. If you argue that theories are facts, this implies a metaphysical commitment which you have to motivate. Since induction is always problematic, theories can be more or less corroborated (Popper) and the theory of evolution is highly so, but NO, it is not "a fact" neither can be taken "as a fact". Please revert my edit, which was correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.98.74.242 (talk) 13:26, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

No, I will not restore your edit which is incorrect, we go by what reliable sources say about a subject. Please take to the talk page Talk:Rejection of evolution by religious groups if you want to discuss this with others, but beware the Arbitration Committee has authorized uninvolved administrators to impose discretionary sanctions on users who edit pages related to pseudoscience and fringe science, including this article. Theroadislong (talk) 13:32, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Hasan B Alam

Hello Theroadislong,

Thank you very much for reviewing my article titled 'Hasan B Alam'. I appreciate your comments, and since this is my first (of hopefully many) Wikipedia article, I have learned a lot about the requirements of Wikipedia. I agree that the phrases that you pointed out did not apply well to an encyclopedia, therefore I have removed them from the article. I have also made some other minor changes to make the article more relevant to Wikipedia. Please take a look at it again.

Here is the link to the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Hasan_B._Alam

Thank you very much.

umarfb — Preceding unsigned comment added by Umarfb (talk • contribs) 01:45, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Looks like my fellow reviewer User:Sulfurboy has beaten me to it and accepted your draft. Theroadislong (talk) 08:27, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Robin Feldman - Thank you and a question

Thank you for helping me direct my entry for Robin Feldman to the proper draft location. Can you advise me on how to get it live as an article? As you likely saw, it is heavily sourced by reputable third-party media outlets, and I think meets the standards for publication of a living person's living bio.

Petepetey (talk) 20:39, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Your draft currently has zero independent reliable sources so has little chance of being accepted. Theroadislong (talk) 20:48, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Your response of zero suggests you might be mistaken about which article we're discussing. There are extensive third party scholarly and independent, reputable news organization citations. Citations 3 through 21, for instance, are all from major publishers like Fortune magazine, Bloomberg News, Kaiser Health News, the US government, and Wired magazine. Compare the bio I submitted to the existing article for legal scholar Martha_Albertson_Fineman. Obviously, there's an intent here for creating a draft with some integrity. I look forward to working with you or other editors to get this right.

Thanks -

Petepetey (talk) 21:19, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Apologies I was viewing your other draft by mistake at Draft:Exploratory Product Development. Theroadislong (talk) 21:29, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Petepetey You need to submit Draft:Robin Feldman for review. Theroadislong (talk) 21:31, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Request on 08:32:10, 15 May 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Template:Raisethesong1855

• Raisethesong1855 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Skull and Bones (Penn State) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Please advise on how independent student newspaper coverage and yearbook entries are not considered an independent source for this topic. Dozens of collegiate societies have active pages with far fewer sources; other than the Ivy Leagues, the majority of collegiate secret society pages on Wikipedia rest solely on independent campus news citations. This topic has deep coverage spanning 100 years in the independent student newspaper, and the student yearbook is used to identify members (which is what the Yale page does, too).

I am sincerely interested in getting the pages' sources satisfactory for submission so I can work on pages for the other 2 organizations at the university. I am not an experienced editor so I ask these questions with earnestness. Thanks.

Raisethesong1855 (talk) 08:32, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Your sources (the student newspaper and student yearbook) are not independent they are primary sources, they not demonstrate that the subject meets our guidelines for notability. Normally, this is done by showing that the subject has received sustained in-depth coverage in reliable secondary sources. Theroadislong (talk) 08:42, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Obada Adnan

The references that are associated in Draft:Obada Adnan , is not just IMDb , there are also References form Wikipedia Alex1981march (talk) 12:10, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Your draft Draft:Obada Adnan has only IMDb and Wikipedia as references, neither can be used to establish notability, we need independent reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 13:20, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Draft:DLocal

Dear @Theroadislong! Thanks a lot for answering. I actually stated on the talk page [2], I am lost, as I dont know how to proceed now: I submitted my employer, I added requested sources - what is the next step? I understand I can not submit it like an article because its about my client/employer. How can I ask a neutral editor to include this article to the wikipedia encyclopaedia? Because this is the actual problem, right? — Preceding unsigned comment added by PaulanerPassau (talk • contribs) 01:57, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Your draft is just an advert "Merchants can send mass payouts around the world and receive funds from emerging markets in EUR, USD or local currency, without the need of local entety or bank account in the respective countries." this is NOT neutral content. Also see WP:SOLUTIONS. Theroadislong (talk) 08:10, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Pepperfry

Hi Theroadislong,

I see that you have added a paid editing tag to Draft:Pepperfry. Could you please provide some context on why you added that tag?-Vishalnagpal123 (talk) 15:35, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

The tag says "may have been created or edited in return for undisclosed payments" your editing pattern follows that of many other paid users. If you are not being paid, then it can be removed.Theroadislong (talk) 15:37, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your response Theroadislong but i have not been paid to edit anything on Wikipedia, so could you please remove that tag?-Vishalnagpal123 (talk) 19:06, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Moving drafts to main space

Hello Theroadislong. Since I just took care of a related case, can you tell me what the current practice is for moving drafts without getting a review. Is there a rule against doing so? I understand that it's not forbidden to directly create an article in main space. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 18:33, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

If I spot a poor quality draft moved to main space by the creator then I move it back to draft, but there are no rules about this as far as I know. Theroadislong (talk) 18:35, 16 May 2020 (UTC)