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the reason i use a vpn is because at school wikipedia is blocked but we are still allowed to use it. Using a VPN usually makes wikipedia available. On that i never vandalized and was genuinely trying to be helpful [[User:LachlanTansey45566788765444332|LachlanTansey45566788765444332]] ([[User talk:LachlanTansey45566788765444332#top|talk]]) 02:16, 3 December 2022 (UTC) |
the reason i use a vpn is because at school wikipedia is blocked but we are still allowed to use it. Using a VPN usually makes wikipedia available. On that i never vandalized and was genuinely trying to be helpful [[User:LachlanTansey45566788765444332|LachlanTansey45566788765444332]] ([[User talk:LachlanTansey45566788765444332#top|talk]]) 02:16, 3 December 2022 (UTC) |
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after reading the appeal page i do admit to creating a new account after have being blocked on an old one this was due to me not reading baduc rules and having common sense since i was around 10 years old. Even if im blocked again i will not change accounts again and thats a promise. The reason i read and edit on Wikipedia is because i mainly interest in Australian railways specifically in Perth. [[User:LachlanTansey45566788765444332|LachlanTansey45566788765444332]] ([[User talk:LachlanTansey45566788765444332#top|talk]]) 02:38, 3 December 2022 (UTC) |
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Hello, LachlanTansey45566788765444332. Thank you for creating Leighton railway station. User:Hughesdarren, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:
None of the sources (other than the wikipedia one} seem to work.
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Hughesdarren (talk) 09:35, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
All ready exists
Please do not create dupicate items about places that already exist - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meckering,_Western_Australia
Thanks. JarrahTree 11:24, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Leighton railway station moved to draftspace: current sourcing is dubious.
An article you recently created, Leighton railway station, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Leighton railway station (October 11)
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Difficult to tell
If you would like help, or not, and how seriously you understand the setbacks with the Meckering and Leighton ideas, it is indeed hard to tell...
Meckering - information about the rail service is already incorporated in the existing article about meckering - and the post 1966 location is very far from being a notable location in the recent notability pronouncements. If you were writing about 1897 - 1940 meckering railway station that is a totally different matter.
Leighton - wikipedia articles are not reliable sources. Leighton station really, as far as the amount of history that could be gleaned from some sources - could be either a sub-part of the north fremantle article - or, if you were particularly adept at the tangents required - could combine material about leighton marshalling yard: - however the trick there is the material about the marshalling yard - due to operational dates - 1950s to 1980s - is where the black hole exists in a source such as trove due to copyright issues... As it goes your efforts to date are hard to identify as to whether they are concerted attempts at providing new material from good WP:RS. As a result it is hard to know which way to go with adding information or not. JarrahTree 08:14, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
FYI
Just to let you know that a significant amount of your edit history will be reverted...
On your user page - you claim that your sources for edits and changes are
http://dictionary.sensagent.com/List%20of%20Perth%20railway%20stopping%20patterns/en-en/ https://wikimili.com/en/List_of_Perth_railway_stopping_patterns Please note that wikipedia does not allow editing that sources from mirror sites
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mirrors_and_forks/STU#sensagent.com
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mirrors_and_forks/VWXYZ#Wikimili Which means you maybe need to understand the mirror issue - you are utilising information from a deleted article that still exists in a mirror site - which means your edits are neither valid or correct...
Please get a very good handle of what WP:NOT and WP:ABOUT are actually about.
Also, railway information boxes are for current, not historical operations, as the boxes have limited scope, and possible historical variations are potentially problematic. Please note that continued reference to or gaining content from mirror sites of deleted articles are simply red rags to admins who might feel that you do not want to abide by what the rules are here... Take care!!
JarrahTree 09:21, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
- can i just change my sources LachlanTansey45566788765444332 (talk) 09:23, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
- The sources aren't the only issue. Adding heaps of defunct stopping patterns makes the infobox excessively long. See City West railway station for an example. Another issue is that considering the Fremantle/Midland line is 141 years old, it is impossible to make a complete list of stopping patterns that have existed over that period, and even if it were, that would make the infobox even longer. I think it is best to list stopping patterns that are currently in use. Steelkamp (talk) 10:35, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
- you make a good point if i ever include stopping patterns it would be current ones
- thanks for the advice :D LachlanTansey45566788765444332 (talk) 20:31, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
- thanks for understanding the issue and reverting your own edits - also remember dont utilise/believe mirror sites for starters... JarrahTree 01:09, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
- The sources aren't the only issue. Adding heaps of defunct stopping patterns makes the infobox excessively long. See City West railway station for an example. Another issue is that considering the Fremantle/Midland line is 141 years old, it is impossible to make a complete list of stopping patterns that have existed over that period, and even if it were, that would make the infobox even longer. I think it is best to list stopping patterns that are currently in use. Steelkamp (talk) 10:35, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
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Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:33, 29 October 2022 (UTC)Please
Do not put Perth Australia - there is no such thing, as there is another Perth in Australia. Please also clarify claims you make in editing - to WP:RS - also after having utilising mirror site(s) as a claimed source, you will have to work that little harder to clarify source of information. Take care. JarrahTree 09:14, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
Please
Make some sort of acknowledgement that you understand messages on your talk page, and other pages - the less you respond, the more likely you will find your editing is under scrutiny of the annoying kind.
When creating new pages - like west perth - the lack of a category, and the lack of reliable sources to verify/back the idea of the article, is what watching editors find as a suggestion that you either are not reading messages, or understanding WP:ABOUT and WP:NOT.
No active talk engagement, and expect to have a very difficult time.
If you are going to keep adding older versions of newer stations - the PTA website is not a WP:RS in that circumstance. The lack of other sources will go against your article creation. Take care. JarrahTree 11:26, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
The article West Perth Railway Station has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
The City west station is the subsequent station, and is adequately described and accommodated in that article - there is no need for the extra article as there was nothing sufficiently notable about west perth that cannot be dealt with in the city west article
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- i will accept the deletion of my page and i apologize for any inconvenience i have caused moderators LachlanTansey45566788765444332 (talk) 15:09, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
Nomination of Bellevue Railway Station for deletion
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Your contributed article, Bellevue Railway Station
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W pattern
Are you aware that the "W" pattern services on the Fremantle line timetable are actually Airport line services? Steelkamp (talk) 16:53, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Also, there has never been a station called "Subiaco Oval Station" and that draft will not result in an article. You might be thinking of the third platform at West Leederville railway station which had Mandurah line services during events at Subiaco Oval. Steelkamp (talk) 17:20, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Per Steelkamp's comments here, and the deletion today of Bellevue Railway Station, you really need to ensure you are doing due diligence and the articles you create do not duplicate existing articles and are actually real stations. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 19:19, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Calder Park railway station
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The sole source within this article is just a timetable. Merely proving the station exists does not mean it should have an article. You should include other sources. For example, this page from the Heritage Council of WA. Steelkamp (talk) 11:14, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
The article Mundijong railway station has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
No need for a separate article - Mundijong as a locality already exists - editor has been repeatedly uploading material for non notable railway stations that could be included in the articles about the localities
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PLEASE STOP
Your continued creation of totally inadequate stubs about railway stations has now got to the point where sanctions are required. The time and effort of others to 'cleanup' after you is now beyond tolerable as expected of new editors.
You appear to not have learnt from the experience of being checked by other users - there seems no reason to expect that you have any sense of what wikipedia is about.
The experience of being blocked may well be a way of seeing why your editing to date is disruptive and of little use to the improvement of the encyclopedia.
There are now sufficient differences between edits and corrections for a reviewing administrator to reasonably consider blocking from the evidence to date.
For starters - fellow editors are not moderators
For a possible resolution to the issue you might:
- To volunteer on your part not start or create new articles outside of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation process
And that the articles are to be reviewed for WP:Notability within the
- Trains context
- Western Australian context
- To volunteer draft changes only to anything to do with information boxes about
railway stopping places. (ie other editors review) As this is not part of the established remedies as outlined in the processes available in the formal part of what wikipedia has available - it is being offered as an informal remedy to obviate the rather uncomfortable experience of being blocked as a disruptive editor. You are free to ignore this (as you appear to have done so with most of the messages above), however it is offering something that might prevent you being blocked. I am sure other editors might different views on how to resolve your stub constructions - this is being offered in good faith in the hope that you either change your editing style - or at least understand if others are indeed more exacting and precise in their consideration of your disruptions - you have had your problem adequately explained to you. JarrahTree 12:25, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- Ok im very sorry im just trying to help but clearly my efforts are in vane LachlanTansey45566788765444332 (talk) 21:35, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
Nomination of Mundijong railway station for deletion
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JarrahTree 08:23, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- AFD withdrawn - I think that you should go out of your way to thank Steelkamp for his rescue of the article. It was, perhaps the only stopping place on the south west railway without an article that deserved it. The word vane suggests that english is not your first language? - the word you should have used is vain - and no, your efforts are not in vain, when you show signs of learning from your mistakes, and offer up your ideas via new page review... JarrahTree 10:09, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
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I would like to add a paragraph on the Perth Station page about "changed during the 21st Century" but I wanted to ask before doing so as when I have done this in the past I did not ask and did the edit terribly but I have learnt from my mistakes and am asking before editing LachlanTansey45566788765444332 (talk) 03:56, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
- What specifically do you want to add? There are already three paragraphs on the 21st century on that article, albeit not in their own sections. They could do with some expansion. Just make sure to use reliable sources for anything you add. Steelkamp (talk) 07:23, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
- alright thanks mate! LachlanTansey45566788765444332 (talk) 08:16, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
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the reason i use a vpn is because at school wikipedia is blocked but we are still allowed to use it. Using a VPN usually makes wikipedia available. On that i never vandalized and was genuinely trying to be helpful LachlanTansey45566788765444332 (talk) 02:16, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
2nd appeal
after reading the appeal page i do admit to creating a new account after have being blocked on an old one this was due to me not reading baduc rules and having common sense since i was around 10 years old. Even if im blocked again i will not change accounts again and thats a promise. The reason i read and edit on Wikipedia is because i mainly interest in Australian railways specifically in Perth. LachlanTansey45566788765444332 (talk) 02:38, 3 December 2022 (UTC)