Talk:Jared Taylor

Why Jared Taylor is not a white supremacist

Taylor explains in length to this interviewer why he is not a white supremacist: https://www.amren.com/videos/2020/08/interview-with-an-israeli-journalist/ Starting at 0'32". As to the reliable sources, I can think of no better than Taylor himself. Unless you want to mix "separatism" with "supremacism", this does not stand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RomFaBis (talk • contribs) 15:50, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

So, of course he denies it, RES say he is.Slatersteven (talk) 15:54, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Repeating a lie doesn't make it true. In the matter, Jared Taylor is the best place to define what Jared Taylor thinks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RomFaBis (talk • contribs) 15:59, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

No it's not, it's the best place to determines what he wants you to think he is. And "Repeating a lie doesn't make it true" can be just as easily applied to Mr Taylor, as I said, of course, HE denies it. That does not make it true.Slatersteven (talk) 16:07, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Except HE never, ever advocated for a white supremacy over other ethnicities, races, other non-white groups of people, however one might want to call it; he merely says different races aren't meant to live together in the same place. I'd gladly accept being proven wrong on that particular matter if that was possible, but it's not. Pardon me, but this is called putting words in someone else's mouth. Understand, I'm not even saying what he claims is right or wrong, which is irrelevant anyway. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RomFaBis (talk • contribs) 16:14, 27 December 2020 (UTC) Sorry, that was innacurate: Taylor doesn't "say different races aren't meant to live together in the same place", he defends the right for white people to live on their own in their homelands (i.e. "separation"). Surely you understand why, in this case, the word "supremacy" is wrong, innacurate and misleading. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RomFaBis (talk • contribs) 16:23, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Read wp:or, we do not do our own analysis.Slatersteven (talk) 16:26, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Fair enough. Then I take it the Wikipedia community/moderators won't mind if I write a brief description of Taylor's thesis in his own words, and how he defends himself from being a supremacist? If only, for exhaustiviteness' sake. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RomFaBis (talk • contribs) 16:34, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

No, if he denies it (and says "I deny it") you could say that. What we should not have is some exhaustive cometary which does not actually say "I deny this". One line saying "he denies this" is the best you could have.Slatersteven (talk) 16:38, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

This is an important nuance, and as you stated, this is not about me.

What? When did I say this was about you? Can you also please read wp:indent, it will make it easier to see the flow of this conversation.Slatersteven (talk) 17:50, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Jared Taylor is Japanese

I feel that, to bring this article in line with standard practice on Wikipedia, he should be described by the place he was born and grew up in. He is not American, he is Japanese. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.4.128.130 (talk) 14:54, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

You need a source saying he is either ethnically Japanesee or has a Japanese passport. Other wise he is neither Japanese nor a Japanese national.Slatersteven (talk) 14:58, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

White Supremacy / Can we have some consistency?

Wikipedia defines white supremacy as "...the belief that white people are superior to those of other races and thus should dominate them." Jared Taylor has done MULTIPLE interviews in which he denies that he is a white supremacist. He even did an entire video on the term and the characterization against him, "Who is a White Supremacist?" At the very most I would say that he's a white nationalist since he has advocated on behalf of racial separatism and the "self-determination" of white people. I've seen a lot of the discussions here saying "reliable sources say this, reliable sources say that" and I just have this to say; I think the most reliable source to determine who Jared Taylor is, is Jared Taylor.

I would strongly urge the folks at Wikipedia to HAVE SOME CONSISTENCY. I don't even really like Jared Taylor that much yet if they can't even stick to their own definitions, I don't know how Wikipedia can still purport itself to be this neutral, unbiased, and ultimately informative arbiter of truth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZoomerEnlightenment (talk • contribs) 03:55, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Of course, HE denies it, RS have said he is. There is no inconsistency, as out policies say (see wp:v and wp:rs we go with what RS say. So if they have decided his "belief is "that white people are superior to those of other races and thus should dominate them" that is what we reflect.Slatersteven (talk) 10:34, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

You've missed my point. If Jared Taylor doesn't fit the definition of white supremacy (he doesn't since he doesn't believe whites are superior to people of other races nor does he believe they should dominate people of other races) in addition to what "credible sources" say about white supremacy, then there's a huge gray area here. Wikipedia at once wants to provide a neutral and impartial description on certain people but at the same time refers to "credible sources" who aren't even consistent on their own definitions. If a "credible source" (which is already subjective, by the way) says that Jared Taylor is a pizza, that doesn't make Jared Taylor a pizza because he doesn't call himself a pizza, nor does he fit what "credible sources" say about the definition of a pizza, then is Jared Taylor really a pizza? This is comically absurd.