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Opening paragraph says "woman" but if she was a minor, she was only a "girl". Using the word "woman" seems an attempt to soften the seriousness of this crime and doesn't properly convey that he is a sexual predator. Perhaps if he were Republican this would have been addressed by now. [[Special:Contributions/152.208.13.43|152.208.13.43]] ([[User talk:152.208.13.43|talk]]) 23:23, 28 June 2022 (UTC) |
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Descriptions in first sentence of lead
There have been multiple attempts to add "convicted felon", "convicted sex offender", "disgraced", or similar wording to the first sentence of the lead. These have been undone by me, user:EricEnfermero, user:MrX , user:El C , user:Johnsagent, user:Acebulf , and user:Ianmacm (and possibly others that I missed).
- I've undone it as well. Ottoump (talk) 17:11, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
His notability does not stem from his sexting and conviction. He was notable before that. His conviction is covered at length in the second paragraph of the lead and in the body of the article, and seems WP:UNDUE and less than neutral to me to include this in the first sentence of the lead, let alone as the first description we use, as most of the additions do. See MOS:INTRO, MOS:BEGIN and MOS:FIRST from MOS:LEAD, and WP:MOSBIO. Meters (talk) 19:50, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
- Agreed, this sort of thing has happened at numerous other articles and is rightly reverted. Weiner's primary source of notability is as a politician. If he had been John Doe from Oshkosh, he would not have met WP:GNG and had a Wikipedia article saying that he was a convicted felon. The WP:LEAD is obviously going to mention the May 2017 conviction, but it should not be implied that it is his primary source of notability.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 03:51, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
- One area of the WP:LEAD which worries me is "Weiner resigned from Congress in June 2011 after the first of several sexting scandals involving underage children became public" which isn't strictly correct. The woman in the May 2011 boxer briefs incident was a 21-year-old female college student from Seattle, Washington, and although she found the incident very tiresome, she wasn't underage. She was annoyed because people thought that she was Weiner's mistress [1] but apart from following him on Twitter, she had done nothing that would have encouraged him to send the boxer briefs photo. Weiner probably thought that it was a direct message to her, but it had appeared on his public timeline. By the time that he realized the mistake and deleted the link to the tweet and the yfrog photo, other people had seen it and made screen captures of the material.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 06:04, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
- Your change is definitely an improvement. Meters (talk) 18:37, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
You shouldn’t remove viable information that fits there. RJS001 (talk) 02:12, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
Comedic use of the word "weiner" by the media
The media has been widely quoted as misusing the word "weiner" to mean "penis". This should be included, because it was widespread and has become a popular social phenomenon that should be included 2001:8003:6A23:2C00:1DF9:701B:BDA5:2128 (talk) 14:52, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
- See Slang by Dictionary.com, which says "By the early 20th century, when hot dogs had become a popular food in the US, English speakers were already using wiener as a euphemistic or childish slang term for the penis, including referring to sexual intercourse as “hiding the weenie.”" Wiener (from Vienna sausage) was a popular US slang term for a penis long before a certain politician made a famous mistake on yfrog. I don't think that he can be credited with inventing the term, although it did lead to a lot of sniggering after the yfrog incident.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 15:18, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
Weiner and Abedin Cancelled Their Divorce
Page Six is indirectly backed up by the fact that they cancelled court proceedings which are required for anyone who wishes to go through a legal divorce.2601:447:4101:41F9:2996:B16:1014:3501 (talk) 20:07, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
- Again, Page Six is not ever a reliable source for anything, much less anonymous sources from Page Six. Either you find a reliable source which discusses what you want to change, or it doesn't get changed. WP:RS and WP:BLP are not negotiable. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 20:38, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
My edits are reliable and you cannot tell me how to edit. Read Wikipedia:NPOV dispute.2601:447:4101:41F9:71C5:A30F:F95A:75CB (talk) 23:11, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
Divorce is not Finanlized yet, they are still working out some final disagreemnets this is from Human Abedin's own words, although I suspect it will be sometime in 2022 they are still married and 2018 Divorced is way wrong.
https://nypost.com/2021/11/02/huma-abedin-in-final-stages-of-divorcing-anthony-weiner/ Wwdamron (talk) 14:15, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 28 March 2019
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Change these paragraphs at the end of the "Sexting scandals" section:
On November 6, 2017, Weiner reported to Federal Medical Center, Devens in Ayer, Massachusetts to begin his 21-month sentence.[81] After getting about three months deducted from his sentence for good behavior,[82] after 15 months he was moved to a halfway house in Brooklyn in February 2019.[83][84] His inmate number is 79112-054, and with time off for good behavior, his release is scheduled for May 14, 2019.[84][85]
Weiner was released from prison on February 17, 2019 and sent to a halfway house in New York. He is scheduled to be released on May 14. Weiner will have to register as a sex offender for the rest of his life. [86][87]
To this:
On November 6, 2017, Weiner reported to Federal Medical Center, Devens in Ayer, Massachusetts to begin his 21-month sentence.[81] After getting about three months deducted from his sentence for good behavior,[82] Weiner was released from prison on February 17, 2019 and sent to a halfway house in New York. He is scheduled to be released on May 14, 2019.[85] Weiner will have to register as a sex offender for the rest of his life. [86][87]
Reasons for edit:
- Wording
- Citations [84] and [87] appear to to cite the same article. Seems odd, but I'm new here.
- Including his inmate number seems un-wikipedia-like. I.sigh.less (talk) 03:31, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
Done The duplicate citations were likely an error (one editor added the source not realising it was already being used). NiciVampireHeart 18:15, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
Inmate numbers are on many pages including many other criminals. RJS001 (talk) 02:14, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 13 June 2020
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2A02:C7D:4485:3000:EC7D:241D:6B25:FDA4 (talk) 22:22, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Mdaniels5757 (talk) 22:44, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
Suggested edit
I suggest that the following information be added to the article:
"As of October 2020, Weiner was the Chief Executive Officer of IceStone, a Brooklyn countertop manufacturer".
Perhaps this information could be added to the "Post-congressional consulting and lobbying work" section if the section were simply renamed "Post-congressional work". 74.67.45.185 (talk) 15:26, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Forgot to cite the source. See.[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.67.45.185 (talk) 15:27, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Here are more sources:
https://brooklyn.news12.com/former-congressman-gets-nd-chance-as-ceo-of-a-brooklyn-based-recycling-company https://nypost.com/2020/09/14/disgraced-pol-anthony-weiner-is-ceo-at-a-broken-glass-factory/ https://www.the-sun.com/news/1473264/anthony-weiner-huma-abedin-icestone-countertops-new-york/ 74.67.45.185 (talk) 23:01, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- I'd cite WP:UNDUE. He is most notable as both a politician and as a registered sex offender. Puff pieces about his reformation aren't notable, at least not yet. Let's see where he is ten years from now, rather than from his ascendency to CEO of a small company. He's not even listed on the website's 'Meet our Team' page, suggesting that they are not particularly thrilled at openly being associated with his name. Anastrophe (talk) 23:06, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
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Girl not woman
Opening paragraph says "woman" but if she was a minor, she was only a "girl". Using the word "woman" seems an attempt to soften the seriousness of this crime and doesn't properly convey that he is a sexual predator. Perhaps if he were Republican this would have been addressed by now. 152.208.13.43 (talk) 23:23, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
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