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:::{{e/c}}[[User:Z80Spectrum|Z80Spectrum]], please stop saying things such as {{tpq|you seem to be the only chance I've got, '''and the only expert around on the matter'''}} (my emphasis) - it's long since ceased to be attributable to a new editor, and suggesting that all other editors involved don't know what they're talking about is [[WP:NPA|insulting]].
:::{{e/c}}[[User:Z80Spectrum|Z80Spectrum]], please stop saying things such as {{tpq|you seem to be the only chance I've got, '''and the only expert around on the matter'''}} (my emphasis) - it's long since ceased to be attributable to a new editor, and suggesting that all other editors involved don't know what they're talking about is [[WP:NPA|insulting]].
:::Additionally, I highly advise you redact the above statement {{tpq|that some Wikipedia editors might be liars and scammers. Even long-time editors might be such}} - unless you have solid proof or evidence of such a situation. [[User:Chaheel Riens|Chaheel Riens]] ([[User talk:Chaheel Riens|talk]]) 13:49, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
:::Additionally, I highly advise you redact the above statement {{tpq|that some Wikipedia editors might be liars and scammers. Even long-time editors might be such}} - unless you have solid proof or evidence of such a situation. [[User:Chaheel Riens|Chaheel Riens]] ([[User talk:Chaheel Riens|talk]]) 13:49, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
::::I have evidence. [[User:Z80Spectrum|Z80Spectrum]] ([[User talk:Z80Spectrum|talk]]) 13:59, 20 January 2024 (UTC)


== Your [[WP:Good articles|GA]] nomination of [[Rye railway station (East Sussex)]] ==
== Your [[WP:Good articles|GA]] nomination of [[Rye railway station (East Sussex)]] ==

Revision as of 13:59, 20 January 2024

Keeping an eye on stuff. Meanwhile, here is some music.[1]

"I'm not a cat. I'm a Texas lawyer!"
THIS USER MISSES RexxS

I know you are generally Mister-fancy-pants-Hammond-C3-organ-Prog rock and all that, but The Ruts' "Something That I Said" must have had some of the finest guitar of 1979. Do you know what that staccato slowing down thing is called, as at 2:18 to 2:28, in the bridge here?? Thanks. I think that song probably deserves an article, or at least a bigger mention somewhere. Stonking video. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:03, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Having had a listen, there's no effects or anything, it's simply picking the string with your finger close to it, so you can immediately mute it. It's easier to show in person than describe it in prose! As for the article, did the song chart? If it was featured on Top of the Pops (though citing a bootleg YouTube video is not exactly policy compliant, as it 'appens) it probably did, in which case the song will deserve an article per WP:NSONG. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:53, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Lol ok. Ummmm, I mean the time signature for those two guitar riffs slows down as the progression of nine(?) descending notes is played. Perhaps it's just syncopation. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:59, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oh right. That's a triplet played over Common Time. Fairly standard in music notation, particularly classical, doesn't turn up in rock much, especially punk, where anything other than three chords over a straight 4/4 beat is viewed with suspicion. The other place I can recall it is the live ending to McFly's "Star Girl". Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:05, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ah ok. Maybe a series of descending triplets, then. Very tasty brass on that track. Another great pop band! And just look what happened to The Juddmeister! Many thanks anyway. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:16, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
And another place that springs to mind is towards the end of the guitar solo in "Light My Fire", more noticeable on live versions; also turns up in live renditions of "When the Music's Over". Looks like John Densmore liked triplets. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:23, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Don't forget to turn out the lights. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:47, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
p.s. Walk On By#The Stranglers version (1978) says "(with extended organ and guitar solos)". Was that a Korg M1? Cheers. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:29, 16 December 2023 (UTC) [reply]
It's a Hammond L-100 clean with no Leslie - which is why it sounds more like a Vox Continental for the solo and a Hohner Cembalet backing the guitar solo. Dave Greenfield later switched to the PPG Waveterm.[1] Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:35, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ah thanks very much. I thought you might know the answer to that one. Strange not to have a bit of Leslie... Ding dong! Martinevans123 (talk) 17:43, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
A work of genius thanks, in large part to the incredible production. So there's Aretha on piano, and Spooner Oldham on electric piano. But he's also on that really subtle organ (first surfaces at 0.24)? Am guessing a Farfisa? Just makes that track for me. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:05, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like it was. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:15, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

Thank you for correcting my edit on this page. You are correct, I should have looked at the body of the article to find the sourcing. Sorry for my mistake. JeffSpaceman (talk) 21:24, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page watcher) @JeffSpaceman: not sure if it compares to III. Fucking off to Wales and getting caned everyday was probably consequentially different to anything they achieved with II or V, although whether that was actually a bonus, I dunno. What say ye? ——Serial 21:48, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Serial Number 54129: For better or worse, it might have been a bonus. I mean, it DID result in one of their best albums... JeffSpaceman (talk) 23:18, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No problems. It does sound a bit POV, but it is cited to Dave Lewis, who is (IMHO) the best Zep source going; all others should be treated with suspicion. (See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shark episode). Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:52, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
At last a new slogan! This should reel them in... "Fuck off to Wales and get caned everyday"! Martinevans123 (talk) 21:21, 4 January 2024 (UTC) [reply]

Happy New Year

Happy New Year!
Wishing you and yours a Happy New Year, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and distraction-free and may Janus light your way. Ealdgyth (talk) 14:45, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Elvin Zor (18:15, 31 December 2023)

Hello, How I'm I going to get paid on this social media marketing --Elvin Zor (talk) 18:15, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No idea. Ask Boris Johnson. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:14, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024



Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy New Year

2024

Like 2019, remember? -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:22, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What happened in 2019? If you're referring to this, then the more years between that and now, the better. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:13, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My mind is much simpler, Ritchie, I just enjoyed visiting the location pictured in 2019. (And I never looked at any block-log.) When I proudly announced the TFA of 1 January 2019, I wanted to see the location. In 2023, I did, as pictured. (more on Floq) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:25, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh right. I watched the traditional 1 January concert at the Musikverein, ending in the usual encore of the Radetzky March featuring the audience clapping along. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:42, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for sharing! - The 2023 picture is from the Abel Fest in Köthen, celebrating the tercentenary of Carl Friedrich Abel, a viol virtuoso, composer and concert organiser in London (together with Bach's youngest son), born on 22 December 1723 in Köthen, where the new catalogue of his works was introduced, - my story today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:57, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
On the Main page: the person who made the pictured festival possible --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:43, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have been busy reading about a different kind of festival. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:59, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted page

Hi there can you please help me - i need to get back the file of the page you deleted and fix it. The page (World Rafting Federation) wasn't ambiguous advertising or promotion i need to understand what was wrong and fix it but i have no draft. Serioushaha (talk) 17:22, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've put the deleted article in User:Serioushaha/World Rafting Federation. However, I would advise not using any of the page's contents to improve it. Rather, you'd need to start with sources of information first, and then base an article round those. Help:Your first article may have further information.
As a general note, creating a brand new article from scratch is one of the hardest tasks a new editor can face, and you are much better off attempting to improve coverage of existing articles first, such as spelling or grammar fixes. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:27, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much for your quick answer and for your help! Serioushaha (talk) 17:51, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking of adding Kerry Minnear of this great band of the 70s and 80s (as it appears to be his birthday today). But I was unsure what the criterion was. Would this source be a good one? I suspect he played Hammond on most of their albums, but I haven't checked all 45! Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:03, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that's a particularly good source, being a Wordpress blog. The original Gentle Giant LPs seem to just credit him with "keyboards" generically, although Acquiring the Taste does have "organ" on a few of the credits. In fact, the whole article on the band and associated LPs could really do with some good references. Have there been any books written about them? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:07, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is at least one. It seems this has three mentions of his Hammond organ. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:33, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year, Ritchie333!

   Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

 — Amakuru (talk) 23:57, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Monkeman259 (04:14, 7 January 2024)

how do you insert an image for the header? --Monkeman259 (talk) 04:14, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Help:Pictures gives a complete tutorial on how to add images to articles. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:12, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Page Review!

Dear @Ritchie333,

Requesting you to please review this page Draft:Viraj Ashwin and fix the Errors if there any for the Page Acceptance! Milli's Boy (talk) 05:43, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I generally don't have a clue about Indian subjects, though we have a lot of them on Wikipedia, so can't really help there. Sorry. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:13, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I’m replying here rather than on the ANI thread as it’s not directly related to what’s being discussed there, but (as a non-sysop) I’m getting a MediaWiki exception when I try to view the logs for User:ThisIsaTest. I just wanted to check if you’d mind if I filed a Phabricator task for this, so that sysadmins can investigate what’s gone wrong. (To be honest, I don’t know if this error was occurring before today as this is the first time I’ve attempted to view the user’s logs, but I couldn’t find any similar tickets from a quick search of Phabricator.)

All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 14:46, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, interesting. This is the first time I've ever tried to scrub out a block log entry (usually, that sort of stuff is verboten and shouldn't be done by anyone), so I've never tested this before. Anyway, when I log out and try and view the logs, I also get a MediaWiki exception. So that's definitely a bug. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:58, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the reply. For your information, I’ve filed Phabricator task phab:T354663. I hope that’s okay. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 16:07, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like Ivanvector is having problems looking at that log as well, and he's looking at it with an admin account. There's definitely something amiss there. I'll probably have to undelete the redaction in the log the next time a new admin wants to test the blocking tool. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:10, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Was this both a G4 and a G5? I don't think I've seen that before. So she isn't just another actress who has ultras but an actress who has paid editors. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:32, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Googolplexior on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Scoring (02:02, 12 January 2024)

Hi, for the WikiCup, I have a question. To get points for editing articles and pages, do you have to have previously worked on them, or can you just find a page and edit it? Thanks! --"Girls are like bonbons - why have just one when you can have the whole box?" Googolplexior (talk) 02:02, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know, I've never worked on the WikiCup. The Rambling Man and Cwmhiraeth have, so they might know. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:27, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Googolplexior, you can earn points even if you haven't created an article, but you need to have significantly improved them. Best, — Frostly (talk) 00:11, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IP Block

Not trying to be difficult on that block. Unblock them if you think its appropriate; I won't complain, even if I think the block should remain. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:47, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think it needs more of a consensus, mixing warnings and obvious disruptive edits with a bunch of good faith ones. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:49, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:57, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Help me make the deletion discussion --Redirect machine (talk) 00:50, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The first question to ask is why do you want to delete the article, and what policies does it not comply with? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:20, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Setting up talk page archives

I see great minds think alike. So alike, in fact, that we have overlapped on a couple pages! I didn't think anyone else was enough of a nerd to actually go through and do this. If you want, I can put up a list somewhere and then we can cross off each page we handle to avoid double-dipping. jp×g🗯️ 12:34, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, through some trial and error, I have figured out that Cluebot absolutely sucks for this task -- it only respects the archive size limits inasmuch as they apply to the whole task. So, for example, if the max archive size is set to be 100kb, and it notices that 600kb of threads need to be archived.... it will just ram 600kb into the latest archive, and then make a note for the next run. This creates a giant pain in the ass. So I just use the template for sigmabot instead.
{{Archives}}
{{User:MiszaBot/config
| archive             = {{subst:FULLPAGENAME}}/Archive %(counter)d
| algo                = old(1d)
| counter             = 1
| maxarchivesize      = 100K
| minthreadsleft      = 10
| minthreadstoarchive = 1
| archiveheader       = {{Automatic archive navigator}}
| key                 = 
}}
This is what I've been using, anyway. jp×g🗯️ 12:40, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've also been advising people to use {{subst:Setup auto archiving}}, which uses LowerCaseSigmaBot (MiszaBot as was). In the case of User talk:MargaretRDonald, it seems to have done the right thing.
I'll give EEng some more time to archive his talk page further, but I've got a feeling I'm going to get to a point where I've asked ten people, all of whom have instantly agreed on bot archiving, and question why he's being stubborn about it. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:45, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You may have noticed that nowadays everything is advertised as being curated. My talk page is curated. I'm not annoyed or anything, but you don't need to push. EEng 00:14, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In case you didn't see it, I put a link to your comment at EEng's talk page, in the interests of transparency. In one fish's opinion, EEng should not be required to use any kind of bot archiving, so long as he archives manually to an extent that satisfies those who care. --Tryptofish (talk) 00:16, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And that's fine, and if EEng gets his talk page down to the same size as those who've had bot archiving recently added (whether by responding to a request or us adding the directive on a dormant account), which is about 80k of prose, then I'll have no problem. But we're not there yet. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:13, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The correct measure is not 80k based on what a bot does on someone else's talk page. The correct measure is whether other editors have any problems communicating with him. I hope that we don't get to the point where I have to question why you're being stubborn about it. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:46, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict)That's probably a good idea. What happened here is that I went through the top ten on the list, checked there was no archiving template at the top of the page, and then added it, unless the user had edited in the last 6 months, in which case I asked them to do it. I guess you put the archiving elsewhere than the very top, because I couldn't see anything, and also by definition I couldn't scroll through the talk page text to find it as it was hammering a CPU at 100% and causing weird usability errors. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:41, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No piping

No piping
Piping

I have seen your discussion about piping on the talk page of Jean-de-Nivelle. Much to my chagrin, he still acts if removing direct links in favour of redirects is something like mandatory. Recently I came across another editor with the same idea. As far as I read the pages so often liked by Jean, I can not see any obligation to fix these already correct links. Is that my flaw? The Banner talk 17:01, 16 January 2024 (UTC) Deliberately posted here as Jean gets upset when his spiel is questioned or opposed[reply]

I really don't know which is the right way to proceed with this. I thought that changing lots of articles en masse needed a link to an RfC or extended talk page discussion to show most editors were on board with the changes. There was a discussion, and the bulk of changes has been paused for the minute, so that's my main concern out of the way. To be honest, extended discussions about the MOS start sending me to sleep and I end up thinking "decide amongst yourself what we should do, and let me know". Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:11, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrator Conduct Case 2024-1: Mzajac opened

You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Administrator Conduct Case 2024-1: Mzajac. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Administrator Conduct Case 2024-1: Mzajac/Evidence. Please add your evidence by January 30, 2024, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Administrator Conduct Case 2024-1: Mzajac/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 17:55, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I seem to recall my statement was "Oh my word, what a tempest in a teapot. Decline the case and tell everyone, in the words of John Bercow to calm down and take up yoga.". Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:11, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This is the only website I can think of where posting a screenshot to resolve a technical issue gets you nagged by a bot. Mind you, it's not as bad as the time I uploaded a picture of my bookcase (with a caption like "offline sources are great!") which somebody took to FfD because of the "copyright" on the book spines. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:37, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Help!

I was wondering when you have time, if you could take a look into the Contributions of User:107.10.129.126 . His edits on wikipedia have been highly disruptive and each time he gets warned he removes it from his talk page as “vandalism”. I believe he should be banned from Wikipedia. Thank you for your help always Elvisisalive95 (talk) 15:44, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The IP has been edit-warring on Shenna Bellows, claiming that "Salon is a deprecated source". Our guide to typical sources that might be deprecated or unreliable says "There is no consensus on the reliability of Salon. Editors consider Salon biased or opinionated, and its statements should be attributed." In this case, the source is being used to state a fact, so it probably shouldn't be used for that. That said, they shouldn't call this reverting vandalism. However, that was two weeks ago, and sanctions must prevent current disruption, which this isn't. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:11, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you taking the time to look into this. User @Beccaynr & I came to an agreement on a section on page Brett Cooper (commentator) & then the I.P began a similar dialogue much like the one you mentioned above. It didn’t seem productive or accurate what he was insinuating referring to the sources being used. Again, thank you for your help Elvisisalive95 (talk) 23:00, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Elvisisalive95, thanks for the ping, and hi Ritchie333 - I am mostly off-wiki for the nearish future but did notice my 16 January 2024 warning to User:107.10.129.126 was reverted with the edit summary "Removed vandalism" [2] and then followed by further participation [3] in the discussion originally between Elvisisalive95 and myself at the Brett Cooper (commentator) talk page. I was thinking because User:107.10 may be continuing to edit war at Shenna Bellows, [4], [5], [6], [7], their contribs might get reviewed and a further warning at minimum might be warranted; e.g. [8] (Jan 4 2024); [9], [10], [11] (20 Aug 2023), [12] (21 Nov 2023), etc. [13] (22 Apr 2023). Beccaynr (talk) 01:11, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ZX Spectrum graphics (modes)

Well, you seem to be the only chance I've got, and the only expert around on the matter. Please, see what's happening in that DRN case of mine, read it a bit. There is some WP:OR in the article, but that's not really what this case is about. Also, I agree that the article has a confusing title, but that's not my fault. Z80Spectrum (talk) 07:04, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've read through the thread at WP:DRN, but I have to concur with Robert McClenon that I'm not entirely sure what the dispute is about, and the walls of text at the noticeboard make it harder, not easier, to work out what's going on. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:47, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I now understand the problem. The truth can only be found by reading, checking and investigating. Here on Wikipedia, either noone has sufficient time for that, or noone really cares. Z80Spectrum (talk) 12:35, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll try to point it to you the best I can. Read this: | copyright issues Z80Spectrum (talk) 12:59, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You must consider the possbility that some Wikipedia editors might be liars and scammers. Even long-time editors might be such. Z80Spectrum (talk) 13:42, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They work in groups. Z80Spectrum (talk) 13:44, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict)Z80Spectrum, please stop saying things such as you seem to be the only chance I've got, and the only expert around on the matter (my emphasis) - it's long since ceased to be attributable to a new editor, and suggesting that all other editors involved don't know what they're talking about is insulting.
Additionally, I highly advise you redact the above statement that some Wikipedia editors might be liars and scammers. Even long-time editors might be such - unless you have solid proof or evidence of such a situation. Chaheel Riens (talk) 13:49, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have evidence. Z80Spectrum (talk) 13:59, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Rye railway station (East Sussex) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Kj cheetham -- Kj cheetham (talk) 12:04, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article Rye railway station (East Sussex) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Rye railway station (East Sussex) for comments about the article, and Talk:Rye railway station (East Sussex)/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has never appeared on the Main Page as a "Did you know" item, and has not appeared within the last year either as "Today's featured article", or as a bold link under "In the news" or in the "On this day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear at DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On this day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Kj cheetham -- Kj cheetham (talk) 13:22, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]