Talk:Karolina Shiino

Does she ever talk about Ukraine?

I have no problem if miss Carolina Shiino feels 100% Japanese... But I assume she still has nephews and nieces in Ukraine... and her grandparents still live there too I assume. Her profile on Miss Nippon she she likes to volunteer... But her family back in Ukraine is of course not helped very much by her volunteering in Japan; they need Japanese governmental assistance in the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Does Shiino says anything about Ukraine? I could not find this information on her feelings about Ukraine in Ukrainian press and her instagram feed is a collection of non-saying photographs. I am not sure if it is worthy to mention in this Wikipedia article but if this Miss Nippon is completely ignoring the horrors that are happening the last 3 years in the country where she was born and where she still has relatives that speaks volumes about her character (meaning she only cares about herself). If she does have done good things for Ukraine that would be very good of course (but (as I said) I can not find an indication that she did). — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 21:55, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Okay... I was wrong... In her Youtube videos Shiino does good work for Ukraine through informing Japan about Ukraine. For some reason her instagram feed gave me the idea that she did not (do anything for Ukraine) (although I did not log in to instagram). My apologies to Miss Nippon 2024. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 22:24, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Birth year

Many media sources are giving Carolina Shiino a birth year of 1998, but there are others sites that list a specific birth date of 08/24/1997 such as [1] and [2]. Furthermore, Japanese wikipedia has a page ja:カロリーナ_(モデル) in which her birth date is listed as 08/24/1997 and Shiino's own Instagram account [3] contains the numbers 0824. Also, the 08/24/1997 date would be consistent with the age 26 that's been cited in news reports covering her winning of the Miss Nippon title on 01/22/2024 (as opposed to, say, 08/24/1998, which would give an age of 25 even in Japan where kazoedoshi has been deprecated for a long time).—Myasuda (talk) 22:15, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

@Myasuda: If there are sources saying that she was born on August 24, 1997, for now I’d recommend having the article say that she was born on August 24, 1997 or sometime in 1998. We should reference the sources saying that she was born on August 24, 1997 & the sources saying that she was born in 1998 (I know there’s at least 1 reference about her being born in 1998). Blaylockjam10 (talk) 07:39, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

What is her paternal background?

Is there any more information about her paternity and or be willing to reword the introduction to be more explicit about her background? Specifically, the wording that she moved to Japan when her mother married a Japanese man implies that her mother's husband is NOT her biological father, i,e., this is not a case of a biracial woman winning a beauty contest. This is the first time I have ever heard of her and she does not look biracial. Kencaesi (talk) 02:41, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Her biological father is Ukrainian. She doesn’t have any Japanese ancestry, which is why there’s a mixed reaction in Japan to Shiino winning the Miss Nippon pageant. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 07:45, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

@Kencaesi - What does it mean to look "biracial"? Bollywood actress Frieda Pinto's American husband is apparently of half-Vietnamese and half-European descent (family name: Tran; he's posted pictures of his father on social media), yet looks fully European with blonde hair and blue eyes.[4]

Rina Fukushi is a Japanese model of half-Filipino descent; she looks fully Japanese to me, but Japanese culture says she's mixed-race (hafu) and fully Japanese citizens growing up said she looked "foreign" and "not Japanese".[5]

As for Carolina, both her parents are Ukrainian. Many sources provided[6][7][8] cover the backlash against her. She has raised debates on identity as she has no Japanese ancestry but won a Japanese beauty pageant. Regardless of her Ukrainian ethnicity, she is a Japanese citizen and identifies as such, but that doesn't change the controversy around her. Clear Looking Glass (talk) 10:19, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Her name is Karolina

Karolina with a “K” not a “C” AdelineBrd (talk) 08:31, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

I believe you are correct. In this very Wikipedia article, there is a link to "KARO's channel" on YouTube, spelled with a 'K', but that is weak evidence. But that page has links to her official Instagram page where she wrote her name as Karolina Shiino, and here official Twitter page where she wrote her name as KAROLINA. I believe that since these are her official pages, this must be her official/preferred spelling of her name, with a 'K' and not a 'C'.

Just for completeness sake: in Wikipedia there is a page for Miss Nippon, and that has a link to their official site, which leads to the page about her, but it is all in Japanese so I don't think that helps with English spelling. Subs99 (talk) 18:37, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

MORE EVIDENCE that her official name starts with a 'K' and not a 'C'. Here are 3 official modeling pages, where her name is either "Karolina", or "Shiino Karolina"...

https://f-w.co.jp/international/detail/?modelid=11626

https://f-w.co.jp/catalog/?modelId=11626&detailflg=1

https://talent.f-w.co.jp/talent/753/ Subs99 (talk) 18:42, 30 January 2024 (UTC)