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:::Has he stated it? what? Who states that? {{Ping|Dekema}} Please undo your edit, as it is sourced. ―[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''<span style="color:black">v</span>f</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:42, 15 May 2024 (UTC) |
:::Has he stated it? what? Who states that? {{Ping|Dekema}} Please undo your edit, as it is sourced. ―[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''<span style="color:black">v</span>f</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:42, 15 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:::The MOS advice is about punctuation, not whether or not dual nationality should always appear in the lead section? But one could argue that it's a simple fact that should be summarised in the lead. Unless Wonder himself makes a statement, it seems fair to assume that he sees them as equally important. [[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]] ([[User talk:Martinevans123|talk]]) 07:04, 15 May 2024 (UTC) |
:::The MOS advice is about punctuation, not whether or not dual nationality should always appear in the lead section? But one could argue that it's a simple fact that should be summarised in the lead. Unless Wonder himself makes a statement, it seems fair to assume that he sees them as equally important. [[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]] ([[User talk:Martinevans123|talk]]) 07:04, 15 May 2024 (UTC) |
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::::Then let's go ahead and add it to every celebrity who has a second citizenship. I think this is a bit petty to be honest. [[User:Dekema|<span style="font-weight: bold; color: #003AC9;">dekema</span>]] (Formerly Buffaboy) ([[User talk:Buffaboy|talk]]) 13:52, 15 May 2024 (UTC) |
::::Then let's go ahead and add it to every celebrity who has a second citizenship. I think this is a bit petty to be honest. Natalie Portman was born in Israel. Do we call her "American-Israeli?" [[User:Dekema|<span style="font-weight: bold; color: #003AC9;">dekema</span>]] (Formerly Buffaboy) ([[User talk:Buffaboy|talk]]) 13:52, 15 May 2024 (UTC) |
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The issue at hand is not the retinal detachment, it is typically scarring and oxidative damage caused by the excess generation of free oxygen radicals. Yes, retina detachment can occur but it is a possible outcome, not the primary one. The text should simply say- he was blind due to ROP. The added detail of "retinal detachment" adds unnecessary confusion. If necessary it could say, because of excess oxygen provided at birth, but the retinal detachment is unnecessary and potentially misleading.
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Wonder's Ghanaian citizenship does not belong in the lede. If this were the case, why is Tom Hanks not referred to as an "American-Greek" actor? Thanks. dekema (Formerly Buffaboy) (talk) 14:55, 14 May 2024 (UTC) dekema (Formerly Buffaboy) (talk) 14:55, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- It looks like a very similar case. Do we have any statement by Wonder saying that his Ghanaian citizenship is of less importance to him than his American one? I'm assuming only he could really make that judgement. Perhaps he hasn't had time to make any statement on it yet. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:06, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- His citizenship should not reflect what he is. He is not Ghanaian. This is a misrepresentation for those who are of actual Ghanaian heritage. 58.69.9.90 (talk) 02:54, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Citizenship =/= ethnicity. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:50, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- This is just "something else doesn't exist, therefore, this shouldn't exist" which is a very weak argument at best. Do you have any guidance from the MOS? To my knowledge, this is only discussed at MOS:DUALNATIONALITIES. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:50, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think we need to reference the MoS. This is common sense... has he stated that his Ghanaian citizenship is equal to his American one? dekema (Formerly Buffaboy) (talk) 04:38, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Has he stated it? what? Who states that? @Dekema: Please undo your edit, as it is sourced. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:42, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- The MOS advice is about punctuation, not whether or not dual nationality should always appear in the lead section? But one could argue that it's a simple fact that should be summarised in the lead. Unless Wonder himself makes a statement, it seems fair to assume that he sees them as equally important. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:04, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think we need to reference the MoS. This is common sense... has he stated that his Ghanaian citizenship is equal to his American one? dekema (Formerly Buffaboy) (talk) 04:38, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
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change Stevie Wonder is a American Ghanaian to Stevie Wonder is an American.
Him receiving citizenship can be notated on the side like it is for Christopher Bridges, but categorizing him as a American Ghanaian is misrepresentation for those who actually have Ghanaian and American heritage, in which Stevie Wonder does not. He is of Black American lineage 58.69.9.90 (talk) 03:03, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Pinging @Koavf who just made this change. Jamedeus (talk) 03:31, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- I have no clue what you are talking about. If someone gets Ghanaian citizenship, he is Ghanaian. If someone's ancestors are from Ghana but he is not, he is ethnically Ghanaian. W. E. B. du Bois is Ghanaian, Stevie Wonder is Ghanaian, lots of persons are Ghanaian and them being Ghanaian in no way disenfranchises someone else from having that nationality. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:48, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I agree. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:06, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
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