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Toolserver status

I'm not really up on the latest toolserver status. First place to check is the replication lag (either at the top of my edit counter, or Leon's graphs). For further information, it's best to ask on #wikimedia-toolserver, especially DaBpunkt. --Interiot 19:31, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Apology

During the Super Paper Mario debacle, I lost my cool. While I should have and could have controlled my temper and not make sarcastic and/or rude comments, I did anyway, so I apologize.

Also, you really ought to archive your talk page some. Just some advice. - A Link to the Past (talk) 19:19, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, I didn't mean archive all convos including recent ones. o.o - A Link to the Past (talk) 19:30, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm restoring the comment, I just need a few minutes to compose a response. Archiving the full history that way makes it easier to search other's Special:Contributions and see what they said here quickly, without having to dig back through hidden history, or without having to find the appropriate archive page.

Anyway, it's good to have knowledgeable and enthusiastic editors here. And in the end the issue was resolved. Anyway, I wasn't really involved enough in the discussion to take any offense, so no big deal. Though it would have been nice to have shortened the amount of time the article had to be protected. --Interiot 19:35, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Images

Not to worry, I have a word document of all the uploaders and will alert them to the tags. And thanks for pointing out the error. - A Link to the Past (talk) 04:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Template

What was the template you always use to make text with a green background? I can't seem to find it anywhere... (you always subst it, dang it! :P) Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 06:07, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't use a template... I just like to put a green background on my <tt>'s often enough using HTML that I do it by hand. (same goes with light blue (#ccf), and every once in a while light red (#fcc) or purple (#fcf)). (maybe it's just me, but the things I put in <tt> usually are somewhat important, and I don't think the monospace font makes them stand out enough) --Interiot 06:15, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Interesting. I can swear that there is a template out there for that... I wanted to use something similar to {{explain}} for peer review purposes (meaning, I want to highlight in red things that I think need to be fixed). I'll try to remember the CSS, though. Thanks! Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 06:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Edit count help page need translations

May you provide translation of this page ? I have a basic level of english, I can write, I can understand most, but I don't understand clearly your page. Helped by the Wikipédia community, I think we should be able to provide quickly several translations. You can see commons:Template:Welcome｜how they do on Commons. Yug (talk) 23:24, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay. I haven't started instrumenting any of my tools for translations, though that script in particular should be easiest to translate (and many people seem to have difficulty understanding it). What parts of the page do you need help understanding? --Interiot 23:31, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Partial opt in?

Resolved

Hi, is there a chance for a partial EditCountOptIn? I would agree to the monthly bars and to the contribution tree, but not to the 7-day and 24-hour graphs. Thanks and best wishes, --SCPS 13:38, 14 March 2007 (UTC) (I am de:Benutzer:SCPS)

Okay, this should work for you now. --Interiot 15:48, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Perfect! Thanks, --SCPS 15:54, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Dili

Thanks, much appreciated :). I used only Inkscape (I am linux user and never used illustrator :( ). It took more or less 1:30h. I have a bit of experience with this vector thing, obtained doing boring maps: commons:Category:Maps_of_comarcas_of_Land_of_Valencia_in_Spanish :). It is not difficult, but you have to know three or four tricks of Inkscape. Chabacano 17:22, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Tool 2 malfunction

For some reason, every time I try to use your javascript edit counter, it never displays anything but "Getting data" or something like that. I am using Firefox, and followed your inclusion directions to the dot. Nol888_(Talk)^{(Review me please)} 23:04, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Use Tool1 instead? --Interiot 00:35, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Tool3, Lar

Hi: http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/count_edits?user=Lar&dbname=commonswiki_p (me, on commons) failed for me. Worked ok on other wikis. Threw:

Contributions summary for: Lar
Software error:

Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at count_edits line 573.

For help, please send mail to the webmaster (toolserver@paperlined.org), giving this error message and the time and date of the error.

Date time was about 3 min before this post, same day. HTH. Certainly not mission critical to know. :) Thanks for the tools! ++Lar: t/c 19:55, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Not sure. The database has been up and down all day. And it's down now, so it's hard to investigate. Hopefully once the admins fix the database problem, this will be fixed too (or at least I can investigate it then). --Interiot 21:55, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

DB is still down... --Interiot 15:42, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Editcount tool not working

Hi there! I made the dummy edit on my talk page, and now all I get on the extra info page is the following:

"Thanks for opting in. The extra edit count information should appear now. If you have any questions, see User talk:Interiot or Special:Emailuser/Interiot. Return to the edit counter."

But nothing else appears! No big deal, since editcount is nothing else than nice-to-know statistics, but thought of bringing this to your attention. --Roosa 18:07, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, the database is down currently, I think this is the problem. Hopefully the toolserver admins will be able to get the database up and running at some point. --Interiot 18:11, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Articles created by …

Hi! I'm wondering if you could do a run of this again, but this time only for the main namespace. It isn't very important, so if you don't have the time or energy or whatnot to do it, don't bother. I'm just curious about my development. Jon Harald Søby 16:45, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

I tried to re-run it, but it seems to make the toolserver database crash whenever I run it. The toolserver's database has been really unstable lately... hopefully they can fix it at some point, and I can re-run it at that point. --Interiot 16:49, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

The Toolserver seems to be a bit more stable as of late (though I wouldn't know, I'm just a layman). Do you think it would work now? Jon Harald Søby 17:16, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I tried it again, and it just crashed the MySQL again. Maybe the reason it's been stable is that I haven't been running this script. :) --Interiot 17:46, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Ahh, people on IRC say it's been stable because they've made the MySQL auto-restart now... which seems more bad news than good news, but whichever. Either way, the query still doesn't work, sorry. --Interiot 17:48, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Thanks anyways. Jon Harald Søby 19:57, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

"non-encyclopedic link" in sources

Hi - I just wanted to let you know I replied to your message on my talk page here. I left the reply there a couple days ago but today it occured to me you might not have seen the reply since it was not on your talk page. For more detail see my reply at that link above... in any case, I accepted the point you made and am leaving this note here to close the loop. Thanks for your comments... Parzival418 23:34, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Edit counter

Hmm... Kate's edit counter is down & her talk page told me to ask you (Who knew user talks could talk!!). It also said I should use your edit counter, but it always seems to be 3 years, 145 days, 2 hours, 56 minutes & 21 seconds lagging behind. I really want to keep an eye on my edits & her's was the best for me, & I really want to use yours in the mean time, but it is too slow. What am I to do!? Any help would, well, erm, help. Thanks, Spawn Man 07:26, 21 March 2007 (UTC) P.S. Grrr! Wikipedia has been running really slowly for me the last couple of days? Is this lag effecting anyone but me? Thanks again...

Tool1 is one counter you might want to use... it's constantly up to date, but a little slower and less featureful. Other edit counters that don't depend on the toolserver being up to date can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject edit counters. --Interiot 14:42, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Would that editcounter survive being asked about OrphanBot's 100,000+ edits? --Carnildo 22:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Your browser (and/or Apache) will probably time out before the script gets all the way through fetching all the Special:Contributions pages. I could probably run it locally and dump it to a static HTML file though (though it still shouldn't necessarily be done often, since it would put a lot of strain on the Wikipedia servers). I can run it at least once though, if you'd like. --Interiot 22:27, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch man! For some reason the edit counter which wasn't working is back up, so I can reuse that again. Thanks anyway - you're akways so helpful... :) Spawn Man 01:27, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words, glad to be of help. --Interiot 01:28, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

A new Wiki on edit counter ?

Hi,

I'm a contributor of Wipedia (english and french versions) and also administrator of the Wiki des Hollandais, a wiki in french for french-speaking people living or intending to live in the Netherlands.
I'd like to ask whether you could add this last wiki to the list of wikis available in your Edit Counter.

Thanks in advance for your answer,

Spleenico 11:45, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I probably can't make them available myself... The toolserver is supposed to only be used for Wikimedia projects (eg. we can't use the toolserver for personal projects that might use up a lot of bandwidth or CPU, and the edit counters do use up a lot of bandwidth). It may be possible to set up Tool2 on your wiki yourself, though it currently only works for Mozilla/Firefox, and doesn't work for Internet Explorer. --Interiot 14:25, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I understand. Many thanks for your help ! Spleenico 14:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Or they could host their own (modified) version of tool1, right? The code is here, so you would just have to host it. Prodego ^talk 22:02, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I forgot to mention that. The source code to all of my tools is available under the GPL, with Tool2 being easiest to install (though not working on MSIE), Tool1 being a little harder maybe, and Tool3 being the hardest. (though none being really installer-friendly since most of my tools are written for a development community of one) --Interiot 22:03, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Toolserver counter

Resolved

You may want to remove the link to Essjay's counter, as it gives a 404 error now. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 21:40, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Updated, thanks. --Interiot 21:59, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Enjoy!

Trampton has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Trampton 20:04, 25 March 2007 (UTC).Trampton 20:04, 25 March 2007 (UTC).

Text Games

I wonder why you removed external link to www.ascii-world.com (rv; if I were to pick an external link, it'd be something more like http://members.chello.at/theodor.lauppert/games/ascii.htm, since that has screenshots at least...)? Link you did leave there is not even working and ascii-world.com has nearly 50 text/ascii games and screenshot + description of everyone of them + reviews and previews of few games. There is also nearly 50 links to other text/ascii games websites. And every one of them is also working and checked regularly.

E.K.Virtanen

Okay, I guess. The site is difficult to navigate, so I didn't see the game screenshots. Maybe if the direct link of [1] was given, it would be more useful to readers. --Interiot 22:22, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Edit Counter

I just ran my self through your edit counter and the numbers don't match up. Under Main Space Edits it says I have 56 but if you add up the ones listed with links in the lower part only 42 show up. Must be those pesky Vogons again... Anyway I thought it might be a bug and that you might want to know about it. Thanks Colincbn 11:42, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Could you link to the edit counter you're talking about? Somehow, I ended up with three totally different ones that are currently being used. --Interiot 13:28, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Conversion to SVG and fair use

Thanks for your comment on Category talk:Images which should be in SVG format. I've responded to it; please check it out. MithrandirMageT 02:01, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

"Richard" "controversy"

Thanks for fixing up the Richard incident paragraph on the Conservapædia page. Something seemed off about the phrasing, but my brain wasn't working well enough to fix it fully.

It is interesting to note that the Conservapædia Panel, which is the site's "conflict resolution group", is composed of "college bound students from the original 58 homeschooled students that started this site". Moreover, they declare that they are and will remain anonymous — I guess every wiki needs its Essjay incident.

Anville 22:43, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

One wonders what a "major conflict" would be on the site, that would be worthy of more formal dispute resolution... admins seem to be able to act without much limit currently, able to resolve conflicts themselves... I guess a wheel-war might be the only thing that would clearly qualify. --Interiot 23:32, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Edit counter

I noticed the graph now has green and red sections what's that for? Thanks for the awesome tool by the way. Quadzilla99 07:59, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I also noticed you have several edit counters (as you just said above) this is the one I'm referring to:my edit count Quadzilla99 08:01, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Really fantastic tool mate. I'm just wondering about accuracy though. I have 33,000 edits but have only edited my own user talk 167 times? That can't be right, can it?! --kingboyk 14:30, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

counter new green/red ratio

What does the new green/red ratio signify? Edit summary usage? —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 08:00, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Indeed. Green is edits using an edit summary, red are those that do not. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 08:04, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, the code has always been there, it's an old feature. I just fixed a simple bug that made it work again. --Interiot 08:15, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

It is really weird looking now what with the different colours. Almost makes it harder to understand. Kaiser matias 09:54, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I think it is useful and easy to get. Perhaps a note above the graph with a word on what red= and green= would clear up any further questions. --Pastordavid 10:23, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I liked it. I think some sort of legend could be useful, though! Fvasconcellos 16:18, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I like it, too. The only (minor) issue I have is that almost all edits for which I didn't provide an edit summary were edits to my own user page. —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 17:28, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, edit counters are always going to be a distorted summary of some sort, and will never give as accurate of a view as if someone looked through the diffs one-by-one. Though the only place I tend to leave off edit summaries is on talk pages too, maybe talk namespaces could be an exception? *shrug* --Interiot 17:30, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Ahh good, someone else brought up the new addition to the edit counter! However, I have a complaint - Green???! I make a habit of using edit summaries. How am I rewarded/punished for this? I can look forward to a whole page of bright green lines on my edit counter! Yay! The first time I saw it I got a migrane - Please can you either change the colours to a more subtle tone or swap them over (IE Red with the green) That way, people who don't keep their summary usage up can look forward to a bright green headache! I think it's unfair that the people who don't use summaries get to have a nice red counter, while those who try harder get flourescent green! I couldn't even read my count because it was so bright - I'm not kidding! Anything you can do is fine, thanks, Spawn Man 04:11, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Okay... I mean, I thought the colors were functional (eg. the meaning is somewhat clear), but I'm happy to take any suggestions for what they should be changed to... would a lighter shade of green be okay? --Interiot 04:12, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

How about a deep blue (or even a normal one) & red? They complement each other & they're not harsh on the eyes. Yeah? Thanks, Spawn Man 05:38, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Red and green are standard colors on stoplights... is the page any more offensive than the common stoplight? --Interiot 16:57, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

That depends, in my opinion. Is it meant to mimic a stop light? If so, yes. —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 23:51, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but stop lights don't send the viewer into epilectic fits just by a quick glance do they? I don't care what you do, but I & others have clearly expressed our distaste for the green. And it was so pleasant viewing the edit counter before! Such a shame... Spawn Man 02:49, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

It's dark green now, will that work?

Like a pine green? That would work for me - If I could see the counter of course. For some reason lately, the counter has been going on & offline & msot of the time I haven't been able to access it. Try the link at the top of my user page & you'll see that it doesn't work - it noly comes up with a "doesn't exsist" page. Sometimes if I get on early it works, but I haven't been able to use it for days now since I complained to you about the green. Could you have a look using the link on my user page? Maybe it's just me, but it ahsn't happened before... Thanks, Spawn Man 03:37, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Here's the message it comes up with for me -

"The page cannot be displayed. There is a problem with the page you are trying to reach and it cannot be displayed.

Please try the following:

Open the tools.wikimedia.de home page, and then look for links to the information you want.

Click the Refresh button, or try again later.

Click Search to look for information on the Internet.

You can also see a list of related sites.

HTTP 500 - Internal server error. Internet Explorer —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Spawn Man (talk • contribs) 03:43, 4 April 2007 (UTC).

The edit counter doesn't work for users with a very large number of edits, because there's a set of timeouts in Apache and your browser, and it takes the script too long to load the output of Special:Contributions. You'll need to use an offline counter (eg. the java one). As a benefit, it won't have the icky green bars. --Interiot 04:12, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Ah ha! Even the edit counters know I'm too good for them that they can't even print my massive achievements! ;) I don't know any other counters other than your lagging one - could you give me a link to any that have similar features & are up to date? Thanks! (You can pop it on my talk page if you want you know... ;) Spawn Man 04:41, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject edit counters.

I like the new colors, thanks. —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 09:22, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

I also like the new red/green edit counters, but there is one potential problem. For people with red-green color blindness it's somewhat difficult to see the difference between the dark shade of green and the dark red. I would suggest making one color significantly lighter in value than the other, or making both colors lighter. I can't immediately make out a difference between the two current hues. Really. I have to look closely in order to see the difference between those two shades. Thanks for the work. - Authalic 04:49, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the change. The new shade of red is a big improvement. - Authalic 03:48, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

The new green/red counter is great, and it encourages the good practice of using edit summaries. The only problem I have with it is that I seldom, if ever use edit summaries for talk page edits--there seems to be little point in doing so. You mentioned above that talk page edits could be excepted; if that's not too much trouble, I would appreciate it if you could tweak it accordingly. Freederick 16:16, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Edit counter - average edits

Shouldn't "avg edits per article" be "avg edits per page"? ElinorD (talk) 16:28, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Please specify which edit counter you're discussing when asking about an edit counter, I've got three+ edit counters active right now. Anyway, I fixed it on one edit counter, is that the one you were talking about? --Interiot 16:57, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, thanks. I was talking about this one. It's fixed now. ElinorD (talk) 17:00, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Not so selfish request of your time

In the past weeks, I have been working on organizing various tools to study Wikipedia (creating Wikipedia:Researching Wikipedia, Category:Wikipedia scripts, Category:Wikipedia charts and updating Wikipedia:Wikipedia in academic studies. Seeing as meta:General User Survey is barely alive, and many (including me) are in need of Wikipedia statistics for papers/research/thesis/etc. I can conclude that edit counters are among the most useful and user friendly tools out there (so, giant kudos for yours, which are among the best!). That said, they are currently geared much more toward trivia then generating useful data - i.e. data in a machine readable output format that can be easily copied into tools like Excel and SPSS. Recently I used the counters to get data on a sample of 81 users - and I basically had to do a lot of work that could be automated (and gave up on some stats that the counters apparently gather but don't display at all). Therefore what I come to ask you to do is nothing else then one of many feature requests I am sure you get - but my requests would benefit many serious researchers :) So, without further due, here is my 'wish list'; I think most of this should be easy to implement (as most is just about displaying the data in a different format):

• chosable time range: the tools now generate data from beginning till the end. Can we have the tool optionally generate data for edits from day A to day B, and from edit no. X to edit no. Y?
• machine-readable data by month: the tools already display graphs of edits per month and break them down into subtypes, but only date and total number of edits can be copied. Tool 1 calculates edits w and w/out summaries - but there are no numbers to copy; Tool 3 breaks them into namespace but again this info is not copiable. Edits by time of day and week displayed by tool 3 also have no copiable data. Finally, can 'distinct/unique pages edited' be added to the month breakdown? My current research seems to indicate it is a much more significant predictor compared to plain number of edits.
• can the number of most edited pages by namespace generated by Tool 1 be choosable by user?
• allow user to specify different time increments (day, year, x months) instead of just displaying the data by month

The above is the 'most needed' stuff in terms of data which in next to impossible to get otherwise. The below suggestions are for reducing the time wastage factor in terms of making the script do some common tasks for the researchers.

• allow to specify more then one user at a time (I'd like to be able to copy and paste my 81 users in one go and copy results from 1 page instead of having to do that 81 times)
• merge Tool 1 and Tool 3 (in fact I had to do this 162 times...)
• optionally, can the data be displayed in rows instead of columns? Sometimes a seemingly easy thing - like moving column data to rows in Excels - can be extremely user unfriendly...

PS. Is there any progress on 'Due to legal concerns, several features have been turned off until a lawyer can be consulted to ensure that the tool complies with German privacy laws?' Could one of W Foundation lawyers look into it? If we need to pay somebody, I'd be willing to chip in (particularly for the research-based tool). PS2. Is the code for your tools available somewhere? While I am not a good coder, I can ask some friends to code the above if you wouldn't have time to do it. PS3. Once - if - the above is completed, the next crucial feature to add to the edit counter would be deeper analysis of individual edits. From 'likely reverts' and 'average length of text changed', to more complex (and resource intensive) analysis of history of text retained through entire articles' history to get information on user's edits quality, there are some very interesting analysis to be done. There are some scripts that do that, and some academic papers with interesting theory - I'd be more than happy to provide data on that. PS4. Is my understanding that your tools based on toolserver work on a database dump correct?-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  17:05, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

The reason they seem like "trivia" is because I'm constrained by whatever the database queries can run within a few seconds, since that's the time frame for a CGI script, so it's not the best to go through my script to get more detailed data, since you probably don't mind waiting a few more seconds. It's probably a good idea to either 1) get a toolserver account, and poke directly at the database data, 2) use one of the HTML scrapers that will output the data in CSV or XML or something (believe it or not, when you're doing something like counting edit summaries or things like that, scrapers are as fast as the toolserver), or 3) download a full database dump on your own database.

The bits about the legal constraints is because the server is owned by teh German Wikimedia group... if you scraped HTML, you wouldn't have to worry about this at all. --Interiot 01:34, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, the bottom line is that I, like many other social scientists (in training or not...) don't have the skills to do that. I have a friend slowly writing a script to get the data for the IBM History Flow tool, because the official software is quite user unfriendly, Special:Export is currently useless (that's what the script is trying to work on), and database dumps are too large to be feasible for anything but a major university research. I'd be perfectly willing to run a tool on my computer to get the data and to analyze it here - alas, there is nothing usable (the Flcelloguy's Tool is too unstable to get any serious results). So I thought a few small modifications to your tools, which currently are the most stable and useful set of software out there, may be a good approach. If you could incorporate any of my first two suggestions, it would be a major boost for anybody wanting to gather statistics from Wikipedia; anything further is just icing the cake. PS. What do you mean by HTML scrapers?-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  03:42, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Possibly. Were you intending to run this on a very large number of users though? If so, I think the only practical way is to download the entire database. It's simply not technically feasible for my tool to run data for 81 users at once... even one user can take several minutes to query via HTML scraping (so long, in fact, that users with large edit counts, like Essjay, never complete before Apache's or the browser's timeout fires). --Interiot 06:07, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I have noticed problems with high-end users, but the tool still works fine for me (63rd) and for users around 20-30. Never run it on the Top 10, though... That could be solved with the 'specify time range' suggestion - we could just run the tool on two periods for most active users, combining the results afterwards, even manually, shouldn't be so hard. In the end, the primary problem is not data formatting - spending one or two hours combining 100 or 200 separate results is not that hard - but the fact that some data is not obtainable (per my first two suggestions - ah, to get distinct pages per month, for example...mmm....). In the long run, I think that 'outsourcing' the machine load - i.e. making downloadable software that would run calculations on end machine of the querying person - is the best solution; particularly when combined with working Special:Export . As for the number of users: my sample is 81; I'd expect most samples to be around 100-200, and since the users appear to be distributed normally, most have few edits. Of course, this is a general answer - it's hard to know what people may want to study. But yes, you are right that no serious study can be run in 'one batch' given the query timeouts times.-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  20:16, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

My apologies if I am being a bother, but do you think any of the above are feasible at all? If not, I'll go pester somebody else :) -- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  16:20, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I think you'd get the specific data you want if you get the raw contributions from something like the query API (search for usercontribs), and calculated all the statistics you want on your end. Ultimately, that will be more flexible and accurate. --Interiot 16:24, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

counter

I noticed that your counter started showing how many of the edits have edit comments. I think it would be informative to show how many are marked "minor", if that is easy to do. Bubba73 (talk), 15:59, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it's not hard to do. Is it okay to just give a lifetime summary, or does it need to be down in the monthly section? (and I've no idea how to display it in the monthly section) --Interiot 16:48, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I was thinking about doing down in the monthly section, but since you are already showing whether or not there are edit comments, there probably isn't a nice way to show both. Therefore a lifetime summary would be OK. Bubba73 (talk), 17:25, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Why not just put the minor edits in parentheses after each monthly total. like this:   2007/3     2517     (857 m)     (((green/red colored bar)))

Just a suggestion. Lifetime total would be useful, too. Keep up the great work, Interiot! --Seattle Skier (talk) 05:37, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

You know my position: the more info on monthly breakdown, the merrier. And yes, space then another number will work well for copy'n'paste to excel/etc; I'd also suggest that those additional numbers/columns are available optionally - some users may be happy just with basic trivia and graphs, few will want many confusing columns to play with in stat tools (and if we display minor, namespace breakdown and distinct pages per months that's going to be quite a few numbers in a row...).-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  05:52, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I just thought I'd point it out to you that on this edit counter you have the key about which colours mean what type of edits and its in brackets but you then also have brackets inside the brackets. Just a heads up. Cheers - Tellyaddict 14:01, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

The point is, however, that there are no numbers displayed; the only way to get them is to go into page source and copy pixel lenghts (and then convert them...). In practice this is so time consuming that it prohibits any serious research on those stats, whereas if the numbers were (optionally) displayed in columns (ex. 2005/8 19 14 12 4 3 1 1) etc. this would make it a breeze to copy and paste them into excel for further calculations (I would like to see date / total number of edits in this date / number of distinct pages edited in this date / number of minor edits / number of edits by namespace string; all of which the tool gathers but not all of which it displays). Note that it would be BAD if the numbers were '14m' - it's very difficult to weed out such extra symbols from cells if you just want the numbers, so I'd suggest just top labels and no extra symbols.-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  18:44, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

annoying newbie concerns

Would you grant me access to #wikipedia-en-admins and #wikipedia-en-functionaries? And, while I'm at it, I tried to visit #vandalism-en-wp, but it "requires registration", as it says at WP:IRC. Now, I'm not totally helpless with computers, but I've never used IRC. How do I "register"? —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 18:57, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

See the Freenode FAQ for registration instructions. Once you've registered, let me know what nick you've registered as so I can set you up. --Interiot 19:58, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

I was there, but I couldn't figure where to enter "/msg nickserv register <my-password>". Can I do it in any freenode channel? —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 09:33, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, any channel. /msg's don't depend on any channel (eg. you can message personA, regardless of whether personA is in any of the channels you are, and the discussion isn't associated with any channel that you're in). --Interiot 09:54, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Alright, should be registered now. —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 10:34, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

What's your nick on IRC? --Interiot 10:36, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

KNcyu38, alternatively KNcyu38_ —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 11:01, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

You're added to #wikipedia-en-functionaries. I don't have ops in #vandalism-en-wp, I'm not sure how it works, someone else will have to cover that one. --Interiot 16:14, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. #vandalism-en-wp needs only registration of a username, it's working already. —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 17:47, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup templates

Just to let you know that most cleanup templates, like "unreferenced", "fact", "cleanup" etc., are best not "subst"ed. See WP:SUBST for more details. Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 22:14 4 April 2007 (GMT).

As far as I know, I never do. Thanks for the advice though. --Interiot 22:38, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Database-dump related favour: unused templates

Interiot, it is currently difficult to find unused templates. Special:Unusedtemplates only caches at 1000 templates, and most of them seem to be redirects. I notice that you have parsed database dumps in the past for cross-namespace redirects. Would you be willing to parse a database dump to find unused templates that are not redirects? I know that some are substituted, but surely some others are obsolete or redundant. Thanks very much. --Iamunknown 03:59, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I can't promise anything (I've only written two reports based on database dumps so far), but I'll give it a shot. The latest enwiki dump is processing now, so in a day or three when it's ready, I'll give it a try. --Interiot 04:06, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

(though I can probably just load it into a local mysql, at which point it shouldn't be difficult...) --Interiot 04:06, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I'd like also to consider creating a "Substituted templates" category so we could create a list like this regularly but exclude orphaned-but-not-to-be-deleted templates. That'll be a long way off. Just ping me with any updates. Best, Iamunknown 04:10, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

That would definitely help. Though dumps seem to come out every 1.5-2.5 months, so it would take a while for the effort to pay off. --Interiot 04:47, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I didn't think of that, it could get really tedious. It might still be nice meta data to have for clean up- and bot-related efforts, tho. --Iamunknown 05:43, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I've got my Ubuntu system set up now, and the latest dump data is available... it looks like a combination of the data in "templatelinks.sql", "redirect.sql", and "page.sql" should be able to generate the report you're looking for without too much effort. Hopefully I'll have this available in a day or two. --Interiot 01:00, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Great! Thank you. --Iamunknown 01:02, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Here you go. There's upwards of 12,000 templates that at least appear to be unused. (there might be a bug that affects a small number of them... templates that aren't used themselves, but whose redirects are used, might be counted as unused even though they aren't.... though the ones I've checked so far don't appear to have this issue, so it'd be a small problem if at all) Anyway, good luck processing those. At least some of them appear to be something akin to Category:All orphaned articles, eg. templates that have been abandoned, though it's not possible to say definitively. Anyway, I think the only way to seriously try to tackle it would be to create a maintenance category for it like the orphaned articles, and see if anyone else would be willing to help process them. *shrug* Though without an easy way to determine if the template is still used with subst: only, I think it would be pretty slow-going. --Interiot 05:47, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Wow, thank you. I'll start trying to figure out how to do this. --Iamunknown 05:56, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Random comments:

• {{baduser}} — tee-hee
• {{accesskey-anontalk}}, {{tooltip-article}}, etc. etc. — functionally similar to the MediaWiki: namespace [2]
• {{ftl}} — relies on a specific browser behavior that doesn't work in Firefox, and partly works in MSIE. Though there's no visual indication to the user that they can hover over the "ft", so it seems unlikely to be useful to the reader.
• {{Wikipediaintro}}, {{Wikipediatoc-main}}, {{Main Page top}}, {{VfDHeader}}, {{RogueVfD}}, {{DD}} — obviously deprecated / no longer used

[comment] Though it's harder to tell if these are needed to be able to properly view historical versions of, say, Main Page, or whether they were genuinely never used. --Interiot 19:07, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

• {{hist}}, {{watchlist}} — features that always appear as part of the basic UI, and probably aren't needed anymore?
• {{Timeline test}} — test templates
• {{forma}}, {{subclasso}} — one-word contents, it's not clear that these have any use

[update] Ooooh, this explains that these sorts of things are for cross-wiki compatibility for templates... a bit strange, but not a problem. --Interiot 07:44, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

• {{sqr}} — single-character templates... sort of goes against the convention that the literal unicode character should be used instead of the HTML &#..; version...
• {{MetaNPOV}} — see, even the old ones had a sense of humor
• {{nutcase}} — OMG, NPA (unless it was always self-applied? it's not clear if the author ever used it)

--Interiot 06:42, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

I was planning on asking the devs about the accesskey templates. Do you know if they are still necessary? --Iamunknown 19:45, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Most of the accesskey ones have been moved over to the MediaWiki space... perhaps the remaining ones that haven't been moved (presumably because they're no longer used) could be deleted? None of the tooltip ones have been moved, though several have redirects from MediaWiki: equivalents. [3] Perhaps those should be moved to MediaWiki space instead, and the remaining unneeded ones similarly deleted. --Interiot 19:52, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

• Do you still have that database laying around? Because I was thinking about a series of massive database queries that I wanted to do, but I don't have space to install it myself... Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 16:44, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

ы

There is a strange problem with this letter in "Contribution tree" tool. As you can see here, the cyrillic letter "ы" is corrupted in edit summaries, being replaced with ‹. It's all OK in article links (I've chosen the article with "ы" to demonstrate it.) Thanks in advance for fixing. — Kalan 08:23, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't know... I've worked on that encoding problem before, I think, and I couldn't figure out how to solve it. As you said the links work okay now. Whenever I try to fix it, it seems like I either end up breaking what things display as, or either that end up breaking the links, and can't get both to work at the same time. --Interiot 16:09, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Problem

Hi! I'm having problems with the edit counter. Could you tell me what am I doing something wrong?Poznaniak 14:16, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Which edit counter? And could you describe the problems you're seeing in more detail? Does it return with an error right away? Does it run for a while but give no results? Does it give results that are likely erroneous? ...--Interiot 16:08, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for bothering. It works now. Before it didn't display my stats even thought i havn't changed anything. Just reloaded the editcount page again. Poznaniak 17:15, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Report

Hi,Can you please help me.Can you please run a report for me that provides the list of the articles I have started and the categories I have created since I started editing. I did not keep record . I am now keen to place the list on my user page .I am told you can run such report .Thanks in advance.Shyamsunder 21:10, 09 April 2007 (UTC)

I tried to run it [4], but the database is unstable, and crashed again. Historically, it seems like this particular query makes the database crash. It would be a good idea to request the report again in a month or two, hopefully they'll have the database fixed by then. --Interiot 15:46, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Opting out

How do i get it on Interiot counter for my nowiki?-Jannizz 17:58, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

If you've opted in, then you have to email me or drop a message here to opt-out... you haven't opted-in yet though, so you don't need to opt out right now, I think, right? --Interiot 20:13, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

meta:MediaWiki History

i partially reverted your edit to this page because it seemed to imply the code was stored in SVN at the time, which it wasn't. kate.

Aha, that's much more sensible than my edit, thanks. --Interiot 01:15, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi

Hi there,

I was just wondering, on the edit counter, theres a number given for Deleted edits, what does that mean? Its not there in Kate's counter, although every now and then I find my editcount less than what its supposed to be. I know it makes me sound like someone afflicted with editcountitis, but I'm just curious - Why does that happen? Is there any way to know why the edits were deleted? So that I could know in future to avoid those mistake...I'm just trying my best to learn here, your help would be much appreciated. Happy editing - Cheers! xC | ☎ 07:11, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Deleted edits is the number of edits you've made to articles that have since been deleted... eg. tagging articles for speedy deletion, AfD, etc.

And as the counter mentions, when replication lag is too high, you may wish to use an external edit counter, such as "wannabe_kate". --Interiot 07:14, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Ah, that would make sense, in nominating an article for speedy deletion as well it counts as an edit to that page, which would get deleted and make my edits to that page deleted edits. I try to help out on RC patrol, so its a fair number of deleted edits. Thanks a ton, Interiot, you're doing fantastic work here, I've seen your name mentioned everywhere! Keep it up, cheers! xC | ☎ 07:21, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Wannabe Kate problem

Great tool, very useful, but the url http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username=Rich_Farmbrough&site=en.wikipedia.org calls up the error message "Too many pages fetched. Terminating." The cap seems to be 45000. He just has too many edits! — Jack · talk · 06:07, Friday, 13 April 2007

As does http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username=SmackBot&site=en.wikipedia.org - same problem — Jack · talk · 06:11, Friday, 13 April 2007

Yup, nothing I can do really. All CGI/web-based scraper-counters likely have this problem... either Apache or your browser are going to time out at some point. One of the desktop-based edit counters won't have this HTTP timer restriction, so that's your best bet for counting users with so many edits. --Interiot 06:12, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Flcelloguy's Tool should work, but you need to increase the memory limit in your Java JVM (assuming you left it to the default) to be able to read more than ~ 30,000 edits. (Yes, we're working on that, by the way... we just have too few developers, too little time... :() Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 06:18, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

edit count suggested improvement

I like your edit count tool at [5]. I would like to be able to click a link and see another 15 results from the count list, esp. in the mainspace category. Do you agree this would be useful and could you implement it? - Shiftchange 00:47, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't do much maintenance on Tool1, I'd rather see Tool3 work again, and develop work on that. --Interiot 06:28, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Downsize hack broken?

Your Javascript hack to MediaWiki:Common.js that made Template:Downsize work so well seems broken now. I guess someone unhacked it, maybe? Could you fix it again, please? (Or could this be a Mozilla Firefox "feature"? Hmmm...) Urhixidur 01:28, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

It seems to still work fine for me... eg. iPod and my other regression test cases still work okay. Might you have turned off Javascript in your browser? If not, which page in particular are you seeing a problem on? --Interiot 06:26, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

IRC question

What do I need to do to get access to admin channels on IRC? I am an admin... :) -- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  17:33, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Just make sure you have at least one nick registered, and tell me what that nick is. --Interiot 18:28, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Done - my nick is Piotrus, just like my username here.-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  17:14, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

HagermanBot

Would it be possible to generate a list of pages created by User:HagermanBot? There's a bug in the bot that causes it to create new pages when an article's name contains '+', and I'm trying to see how many times it has done this. --- RockMFR 03:22, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

I tried running the query, but unfortunately the MySQL database crashed while running it. This seems to be a common problem on the toolserver, but I'm not sure when it will be fixed. Until then, I don't have an easy way to generate this report. --Interiot 07:05, 15 April 2007 (UTC)1

Problem With Wannabe Kate Counter?

Interiot, over the last week, I've noticed nearly all my months lose edits. I know pages get deleted, but I finding it hard to believe that pages I've edited in the past are suddenly getting deleted now. I've lost close to 100 edits (March was up to about 2670 edits, and has shrank to 2623) recently. I am not criticizing Wannabe Kate, but I find it odd that I'm losing edits. Is this a problem, or are a load of pages that I've edited in the past suddenly getting deleted? I expect to lose a few edits occasionally, but I wasn't expecting to get rapid edit drops. Acalamari 20:22, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, hrm. I can actually run a private report on the toolserver that lists someone's deleted edits, that would probably clear the issue up. Unfortunately, the toolserver database is lagged 34 days, so that won't give you a definitive answer for another month (feel free to ask again in a month though).

Might you have {{db-userreq}}'d any of your sub-pages? Might there have been a wikiproject that you were heavily involved in that got deleted? It's hard to guess, I guess... --Interiot 20:29, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

I haven't had any of my subpages deleted. However, after a quick look, I have lost a few user space edits, but they're not important; as the user space edits I lost were just {{indefblocked}} tags on blocked users, but I'm not worried about them, and I'm not in a WikiProject; I'm more concerned about the declining user talk and mainspace edits. I don't have editcountitis or anything :), it's just when I check my edits one day, and then check them again sometime later, and find a load of edits missing, I do get concerned.

As for the private report, what do I do with that in 34 days time? Won't it still be lagging then with more users? Since I've never done it before I don't know what to do about this. Acalamari 20:37, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I've just done a quick bit of research, and I think I know most of the problem: it was the {{indefblocked}} I added to user and user talk pages last month and the month before. I didn't realize I'd done so many. However, I have lost a few mainspace, but not enough for concern. If I do continue to rapidly lose edits, should I tell you again? Like I said, I'm not criticizing you or your counters with this, and I hope I haven't wasted your time. Acalamari 20:45, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

If you suspect there might be a bug with mine, you can let me know, I guess. Alternatively, there are other edit counters out there that can be run on your account, and that would make it immediately clear whether it's a bug in my code or not. --Interiot 20:49, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't think it's a bug anymore, I think it was my own error. I only just found out that user and user talk pages with the {{indefblocked}} tag get deleted after some time (don't know why I never knew that before) and the edits I've lost are almost consistent with the tags I placed. Thank you. Acalamari 20:58, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Current_international_tensions_with_Iran

Here ya go.--Ķĩřβȳ♥♥♥ŤįɱéØ 11:48, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Attempted Opt-in...

I tried to opt-in, but when I attempt to get additional statistics, yours pop up, so I am guessing I did something wrong. Let me know how to fix it if you get the chance.

Eleos^Prime 04:31, 25 July 2024 UTC [refresh]

Could you provide the URL that you're seeing that on? Are you sure they're my statistics? That sounds strange. --Interiot 17:13, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, I click on the link on my page that takes me to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Interiot/EditCountOptIn

When I click on the third option, I go to:

http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/tmp/countedit_screenshot/#bars

I enter 'EleosPrime' under 'Find a user's contribution summary' and I get a result page starting with: 'Contributions summary for: Interiot', etc. I *think* they're your stats. :)

Hope this helps.

Eleos^Prime 18:28, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

As the URL http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/tmp/countedit_screenshot/ suggests, it's just a "screenshot", an example of the #3 feature. Yes, the fact that there's a form there that you can enter your name is confusing... however the data on the "screenshot" will never change, so I removed the username entry box from that page to try to avoid confusion. Just use the normal counter URL to get your count. --Interiot 18:42, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

This may be a matter of me not knowing enough to ask the correct question. How do I get all that information that I see for your "screenshot", but for me? I can get edits for the time of day, and day of the week, but that's it. For monthly bars and contribution tree, I put in my user name, and my name disappears and yours reappears.

Finally, when I go to http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/count_edits and enter my username, I get 'Contributions summary for: EleosPrime', and a graphic with additional stats greyed-out with a green overlay of OPT IN, which when I click on it gives me the same instructions.

Sorry if I am being dense here, maybe I am not understanding what it is supposed to do. Eleos^Prime 21:18, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

You made your edit to the right page at least, but the text hast o go in the edit summary, not the body of the page. --Interiot 22:33, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, that was ridiculously easy. Thanks for your patience. :) Eleos^Prime 14:25, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Tool3

I love seeing the detailed summary of other editors in Tool3, but I can't get it to work for me. I've opted-in already, but it says I don't exist. I changed my name from Zen. to Alton a couple months ago, and Zen. shows up with minimal edits. Any help is appreciated. ALTON .ıl 23:19, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

If you changed your name after the "replicated up to" date (currently 2007/01/25 05:44:52), then your edits will still show up as the previous name. Anyway, since the toolserver's data is so old for enwiki, you might want to use another counter such as Tool1. --Interiot 23:29, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Great, thanks. ALTON .ıl 00:07, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

This one

Hi Interiot, thank you for this great tool. Can you maybe extend it to Wikipedia:Redaktion or maybe even use a wikipage to determine the prefixes? Best regards, --Flominator 07:00, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Happy to. Is Redaktion a different prefix that the tool should pick up as well? --Interiot 08:01, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes it is. --Flominator 11:16, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

SVG help

See Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). --SunStar Net ^talk 09:38, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Edit Counter

I've made at least ten edits since I've logged in, but they don't show on my contribs or edit count. --Pupster21 Talk To Me 19:24, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

As it says at the top, you may want to use an external edit counter, such as wannabe_kate. --Interiot 19:29, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh, for a second wannabe kate wasn't registering my edits. --Pupster21 Talk To Me 19:33, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Ahh, that's because Special:Contributions also lags for a minute or two sometimes. wannabe_kate gets its data from Special:Contributions. --Interiot 19:37, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Mountain disambiguation

Hi, Interiot. I've noticed that you marked a couple of mountain disambiguation pages as "wikipedia is not a random database". The format for the peak disambiguation articles was decided over at Wikipedia:WikiProject Mountains. If you think this format is not good, may I suggest bringing up the issue at Wikipedia Talk:WikiProject Mountains? Thanks! hike395 01:44, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining on my talk page. Would you like to help us (the Mountains Project participants) figure out what the right thing to do is? You're certainly welcome to bring up the issue. hike395 04:01, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Edit Counter

Your edit counter is lagging by 34 days man. You should get that fixed. Thanks, —ÅñôñÿMôús _{Dîššíd3nt} 06:12, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't maintain the toolserver, the folks in #wikimedia-toolserver do. --Interiot 16:23, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

{{disambig-cleanup}} dump

Hi. I fix a lot of disambiguation pages (see User:Sgeureka/Dab) and noticed you are one of the main contributors for adding dab cleanup tags. On User_talk:Hike395#Mountain_disambigs you mentioned that you use a special script for finding dab pages in need of cleanup. Could you elaborate or give a link? Because I am interested in more info about this. Greetings, – sgeureka ^t•c 17:24, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

I posted a note on WT:MOSDAB in case anyone else is curious/concerned about the large influx of entries to the cleanup category. ---Interiot 17:55, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Sources and Lampugnal(i)e

Actually, it was an anonymous editor changing it from "Lampugnale" to "Lampugnalie" that drove me looking for a source today. I may have turned an online reprint of one of her early articles in the search. I found tv.com, and I figured published by Cnet, they should be reliable enough, so I cited them. Now I just wish I'd gone looking sooner! —C.Fred (talk) 20:53, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Tool2 vs. Tool3

In the Tool2 count results, it says that all of my edits are in the mainspace, but in the Wannabe Kate results, it displays the correct count info. Oh yeah, I also had my username changed from Steptrip to Magnus animum. (Would that affect the count results?) Any idea what's up? ~ Magnus animum _{(aka Steptrip)} 00:21, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

If you're counting an account on TOol3, just use Tool2 instead, Tool3 is woefully behind. --Interiot 07:35, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm counting on Wannabe Kate (Tool1), not tool3, and comparing the results to Tool2. ~ Magnus animum 18:11, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Tool2 says only 1002 of your edits are in mainspace, like Tool1 does. This when counting your enwiki account, correct? What browser are you using? --Interiot 01:02, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

SVGs and Stuff

I just wanted to say that our current disagreements aside, I love you edit counter tool. --Selket ^Talk 00:57, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Rubish. This "don't represent that image via quadratic curves, you must represent it via an array of squares, because our license/goals/laws/whatever say so" stuff needs to stop. --Interiot 07:34, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Really, I was just trying to be civil here. The ironic part though is that your reply is the best argument I've seen. --Selket ^Talk 14:40, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Orkneyitalianchapel

Hi, just an update in regards to the candidacy of the edited version of the Orkney Italian Chapel. Unfortunately its been unequivocally opposed, part on the comments you mentioned that were wrong with the picture and also about the quality - next time I'll try the peer review first! Anyway a plus side is that this image has generated a vast amount of discussion about what is a featured picture. The discussion is really interesting. It looks like it will definately fail, but thanks anyway for the improved edited version, Regards, LordHarris 21:40, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Problem with Wannabe_Kate's tool

Hi, When I was looking up my bn wiki edit count here, I found that two of the namespaces are named quite unexpectedly.

I noticed that the last namespace in the list (right above "(green denotes edits ") reads লাইভ শিট which is the Bangla script transliteration for "Live Shit". Also, there is one other namespace "ডা", 5th from bottom, which isn't a meaningful namespace.

So, please clarify where the problem lies. I looked up the mediawiki system messages in bn-wiki, but didn't find these strings. So, these must be coming from somewhere else. Please reply at [[User_talk:Ragib]. Thanks. --Ragib 08:09, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Does Tool3 not work for bn.wikipedia? As far as I know, most people outside of enwiki use Tool3, which should work a little better with other languages.

I would guess that the "namespace" comes from the program looking for any title with a colon in it, and finding an article that starts with "লাইভ শিট:", and, since the program isn't designed to work properly with that language, doesn't know that that's not a namespace, but just a normal part of the article name. On the other hand, no such article exists... --Interiot 14:13, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Tool3 works fine. The issue seems to be with Wannabe kate.

Your guess seems to be correct. (You looked into br wiki, I was talking about bn wiki). I find an article with the string লাইভ শিট as a prefix. --Ragib 09:22, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Edit counter

Hi, I am an Italian user, therefore I don't know well the English and I cannot perfectly speak to you. In the page of the edit counter is written that for the additional information it needs to contact you. What should I do?--Michele Zaccaria 16:24, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

If you're just opting in, you don't need to contact me. You only need to contact me if you want to opt-in some things, and opt-out other specific things. --Interiot 19:45, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Excuses my bad English and excuse even if I have not understood what you have said... And why I am sent here. (Compliments for the good performance!, Milan - Manchester United:2-3)--Michele Zaccaria 21:04, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

OOoooh, thank you for helping me understand. I think that confused many other people as well. I've changed to program to now link to it:MediaWiki:Summary which reads "Oggetto". Is that more clear now? --Interiot 21:38, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

No... I have not understood yet what I have to do. I'm sorry...--Michele Zaccaria 10:18, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I manually opted you in, you should be good now. --Interiot 10:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

I thank you very, very, very much for the job that you have developed. Thanks endless, hi!!--Michele Zaccaria 11:13, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

re: edit summary bar

When I use your edit count tool for German WP contribs (de.)I get no green/red edit summary bar. Is that normal or a problem? Thanks!--killing sparrows ^(chirp!) 02:26, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

From a legal standpoint, the red/green bars shouldn't appear for anyone without an opt-in, dewiki or enwiki, since the Toolserver is hosted on German Wikimedia-owned servers, and so it's subject to German data-mining laws. However, since the main editcounter, Tool3, has opt-in, and because that counter stopped working for enwiki users, and since only enwiki users are likely to use Tool1, the owners of the toolserver allowed me to show the more in-depth information on Tool1 without an opt-in, but only for enwiki users. So that information doesn't appear for dewiki users of Tool1, but it's expected that most dewiki users would use Tool3. --Interiot 02:33, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Cool. The only reason I went to the de. search was I have recently adopted a new user on the enwiki and was doing a review of their use to see if they had any big problems I might help them with. The users edit summary on enwiki was about 3/1 with/without edit summaries and since this user primarily contributes to the dewiki I thought I'd see if the pattern was similar there. Its really no big deal, I was just curious if the tool was working correctly. Now I am wondering what you mean by 'without an opt-in', though.--killing sparrows ^(chirp!) 03:18, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

PS, Lol on the Zen of edit counts!

Q: What did the Zen master say to the hotdog vendor?

A: Make me one with everything.

Belarusian wiki

Hi, do you know an affair with Belarusian Wikipedia? On March, 25 it was changed - all old Belarusian wikipedia are moved under adress be-x-old.wikipedia.org and under it's adress be.wikipedia.org were moved (from incubator) Wikipedia on "Belarusian normative" language. So, for example my contributions in be-wiki (old) now is under be-x-old wiki. Could you make an editcount for domain be-x-old? Bocianski 11:34, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I'll try to bring this up with DaBpunkt or one of the other toolserver admins. --Interiot 16:13, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Articles created 20070426

Hi! Some time ago I publicly requested a way to see a list of the articles a given user, for instance myself, has created. I got the following answer: user:Interiot has script to do this that he runs on request. -- Rick Block (talk) 23:34, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Do you have a way to let me see all the pages I've created? Or at least how many? Regards, Punkmorten 15:20, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

I did have a way, on the toolserver, but the toolserver database has since become so unstable that the query has simply stopped working. (!??) I *think* there may be a new way to extract the data from some of the database dumps (eg. so it might be a month or two old), but that may work... it's a 4GB download for me, which is definitely doable. I need to write some new code to process this though, and I'll try to see if I can get that working within a day or two. --Interiot 16:13, 26 April 2007 (UTC)