Talk:Soulja Boy

Ice T

Shouldn't we put information regarding Soulja boy and Ice T feud? They sent messages to each other via youtube. seems that its getting alot of media attention. Ice T said that he single handedly killed hip hop. Soulja boy responded through a youtube video, stating that if Ice T thought that, he should do something about the hip hop scene, instead of just sitting down and insulting a 17 year old boy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.201.13.150 (talk) 22:16, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Although, Kanye West did defend him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Babi pimpin (talk • contribs)

Apology

How come this section says that Ice T "failed to offer an apology," when if you look at the YouTube video, he clearly DID apologize -- several times, in fact. (But it's true that he reiterated that he feels Soulja Boy is "garbage.") 71.198.65.9 (talk) 20:02, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Criticism Section

This entire section is ridiculous. Most of it is centered around how the general state of hip-hop is perceived today; we don't have to write ten million paragraphs about what this indirectly implies toward Soulja Boy. On top of that, the section is nowhere near objective. For example, it cites a few reviews from all these random websites that no one's ever heard of to support the idea that Soulja Boy is universally panned by critics. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.11.140.87 (talk) 22:45, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

You know, to be honest, I had to tone down that section a bit because it was getting so fat it was outnumbering the actual biographical information about SB, which would cause this page to become a borderline attack page, which is against Wiki rules. Also, keep in mind that since SB is a living person just like the rest of us, making too much space in the article for "attacking" SB would go against the "Biographies of Living Persons" policy, as well as "Neutral Point of View". I'll keep proofreading this article later. --Andrewlp1991 (talk) 06:11, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Wrong Tense

Is there one person on this website or is there a whole bunch of idiots who are bad wid da grammar in da skoolz. 'In November 2005 Soulja Boy, along with another rapper "Arab" posts his songs on the music-based social community SoundClick. Following positive reviews on SoundClick, Soulja Boy opens a YouTube acc'

It's POSTED his songs.... Soulja boy OPENED.. You can put 'posts songs on soundclik. Soulja Boy opens a youtube... but you would have to use bullets for each sentence. And it's not just here. I have noticed this type of retarded writing on SEVERAL different pages. (mostly dealing with hip hop related articles)

Yes you can post songs on Soundclick. You're just a fucking idiot.74.193.223.111 (talk) 02:24, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

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Yeah, I know someone posted

"Partnership with Arab Soulja Boy has a partner in rapping known as Arab (pronounced "ay-rab"). Arab is 18 years old. "Before Soulja boy died,Arab made a Cd with him. Soulja Boy is not dead,idiot That doesn't even sound right.. Someone should change it to: Soulja Boy often has a hype man or partner while he performs... or something —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.74.112.232 (talk) 02:38, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism in Early Life section

Please lock this article from edits from anonymous contributors. They only vandalize the content within this article. Ishmael Rufus 15:11, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

The word 'life' was inserted before the word 'partner'. I'd fix it, but I don't have an account. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.18.180.194 (talk) 02:39, 27 November fji 6t'y

Fixed, thanks! --TeaDrinker (talk) 02:48, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Soulja Boy or Soulja Boy Tell 'Em?

On almost every reference, his name is Soulja Boy Tell 'Em not only Soulja Boy. Should we edit the article? I am. (talk) 05:42, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Yep, on both his official site, Universal site and the Interscope site he is referred to as 'Soulja Boy Tellem.' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.111.47.26 (talk) 12:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Same goes for Universal's YouTube. I say change it. 70.21.171.213 23:31, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

I updated it! ≈Alessandro ♫ ^{T • C} 23:41, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Now AllMusic.com states that the new official stage name does include "Tell Em" due to "copyright issues". Unfortunately, this page is "move-protected" so I'll request a page move on a noticeboard. --Andrewlp1991 (talk) 01:21, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Add section 4 song meaning

On most single/song pages there is a section explaining the songs meaning. Where is the section in this article. There needs to be one. It is extremely sad that 17 yr old is rapping about b*tches, hoes, and ejaculating semen on a girls back (that is what superman that ho means!); but even more terrible that young kids are singing it and dancing to it like it the Electric Slide! But the worst is that this trash song is on the KidzBop & Now...Music compilations. Nas is right. Hip Hop Is dead ! by 03:49, 16 October 2007 72.66.1.116 (Talk) (7,585 bytes).

I agree this song is disgusting and very disrespectful to women. 71.71.250.195 14:59, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

There has to be a reference or some type of validity behind your claim. Please do not attempt to push an agenda. Ishmael Rufus (talk) 17:42, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

R u kidding Ishmael Rufus ? No 1 is pushing anything. All song pages in wikip have a section that discusses/states a song meaning. Listen to the song. The song itself prooves the validity. Plus all the negative reviews also mention the songs terrible meaning and message. Read this article from students in St. Louis. Also Google it and 'reviews' and see what you get. Read its review from allmusic guide. All neg bc of the songs content(tho the catchy beat is praised). I learned from reading the song's wikipage that even fellow crap rapper Snoop Dogg doesnt like the song. Nor do 50 cent and Jermaine Dupri who call it 'mindless music'. 70.108.56.92 (talk) 10:28, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Uh, why exactly is this page protected?

Uh, why exactly is this page protected? Great so random rap artist pages are protected but subjects like the Israel-Arab conflict aren't. It would appear his manager doesn't want any one editing his page. Isn't Wikipedia great? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.82.9.108 (talk) 22:26, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Pages that experience great vandalism are semi-protected so that only established users can edit them. Since most vandalism comes from unregistered users, it automatically stems down most vandalism. Please register so you can make factual edits ♣ChiTownBearsFor Life♣ 04:06, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Looking at your previous edits, you should know exactly why the page is protected. Hencetalk (talk) 14:00, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Or maybe it's an ip address and not a registered user.Tomato Tomato (talk) 04:02, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Official Site

For a page that's protected from editing, you'd think they would have accurate information. The official site is wrong and it brings me to a stupid site that spells it as "solja" all over the place. Great job, "solja boy" fan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.226.116.32 (talk) 01:32, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

"1.3 Recently" accuracy

Something needs to be done about the posted information given, and although it states Soulja Boy came out with a supposed remix of his popular hit song "Crank Dat", I can' find anything valuable with the posted, also I haven't been able to find that "popular" remix either on my filesharing program. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chalino1 (talk • contribs) 21:17, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't know about an official remix (one that was created by Soulja Boy), but there is a remix of Crank Dat by Travis Barker. I know this, because I have it. Call it a "rock remix," if you will. Ninety2ina45 13:58, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Inaccurate Source Citing

The Criticism section cites [9] as the source for

Many other hip hop and music critics dub Soulja Boy the "Nickelback of hip hop".

I don't see mention of this in the article. --Sionide21 (talk) 05:10, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Horrible writing

I'm assuming an "administrator" is allowed to make changes to this page if we can't. However, whoever is in charge cannot write correctly at all. I mean, punctuation, grammar, capitalization rules were all taught in 2nd grade. For this to be a good credible source, at least it should look professional. This refers to the new section added: 1.3 Recently.

Please add

In November 2005 Soulja Boy, along with another rapper "Arab" posts his songs on the music-based social community SoundClick. Following positive reviews on SoundClick, Soulja Boy opens a YouTube account on January 13, 2006 so "... people can put your face to the things you spitting." The following month Soulja expanded onto MySpace to increase his fan base. A year later in March 2007 he would record "Crank That" and release his first independent album Unsigned and Sill Major. On April 11th a low budget video is filmed demonstrating the "Soulja Boy" dance. By the end of May 2007 "Crank That" receives its first air play and Soulja Boy meets with Mr. Collipark to sign a deal with Interscope Records. August 12, 2007, the song appears on the Emmy-award winning HBO series Entourage and by September 1st it has broken into the top 10 of the Billboard Hot 100 and tops the Billboard Hot RingMasters chart. --192.193.221.141 15:43, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Of course, if you can find reliable sources for these claims and if they add to the integrity of this article then I will be happy to incorporate them into the article ♣ChiTownBearsFor Life♣ 04:09, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Protected Page

OK, how can Skaterdave11...something access the article to place some trash on the first line, somebody revert please. Rick-Levitt ^{Talk Contribs} 17:40, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

soulja boy's second hit single was soulja gir ft. i15 and Arab —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.149.50.236 (talk) 23:50, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

JK LOL (: —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.22.201 (talk) 18:12, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Does soulja boy count as a rapper?

or simply a "musician"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hobovampire (talk • contribs) 21:08, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

I strongly move that Soulja boy be tagged as just "pop" rather than "rap;" his mind numbing melodies are embarassing to rap as a genre and reinforce negative stereotypes. Yaaah bitch? I think not. CabbagePatchCashSON (talk) 04:20, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

"Pop" is not a catch-all category for just any artist one wants to cast out of one's favorite genre. How can Soulja Boy be a "negative stereotype" of rap without first being rap? / edg ☺ ☭ 05:12, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

A rapper is a rapper —Preceding unsigned comment added by A.Shetty787 (talk • contribs) 22:51, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Cleaned up some vandalism

Come on guys, you may hate this "artist" but vandalizing the page hurts us a lot more than it hurts him. Chembro84 (talk) 01:47, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Whoever locked the page missed an edit

One of the instruments he plays is listed as the "skin flute." I found it amusing in a South Park-ian way but a registered editor should probably remove it. 68.229.184.37 (talk) 07:10, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks, --TeaDrinker (talk) 07:12, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Merge with Crank That (Soulja Boy)

This article should be merged with Crank That (Soulja Boy). This person is not notable enough to have his own article. dearly 16:11, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

You're joking right? Of course he is notable enough to have his own article.≈Alessandro ♫ ^{T • C} 22:46, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

of course he's notable, his criticized more than he's praised, i think people are watching to see the very moment his career crumbles —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.188.180.251 (talk) 02:32, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Soulja Boy and fake A Bathing Ape clothing

Under "Criticism", there should be something about the criticism he receives for wearing fake BAPE clothing and shoes, despite having a song dedicated to the brand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jpraidzzz (talk • contribs) 15:45, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Sexual innuendo critism just rumors and urban legends...

The sexual innuendo's supposedly associated with the song 'Crank Dat' are just rumors and urban legend. Snopes.com has yet to address this, but from the best I can tell these rumors started out on the internet. In the article the editor links to urbandictionary.com as a citation to show that the 'superman' is a sexual maneuver. It may be true that a sexual maneuver is named the 'superman' and is in use as slang but there is ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that this is what Soulja Boy was referring to in his song. I recommend whoever has the ability to edit this page, which is currently locked, delete that part which is under the heading "controversies." It's simply not true. It is rumor and has become something of an urban legend but not only is there no evidence this is what Soulja Boy meant, common sense and good rap comprehension skills would lead the neutral observer to conclude otherwise. The fact is that Soulja Boy was simply rapping about a dance move - one which he invented.

In the song itself he only says once or twice the words "superman that ho," and notably doesn't say the word 'ho' or any other word that might mean female in most of the occurrences of him talking about performing the action 'superman.' At the beginning of many verses Soulja Boy says the phrase "Soulja Boy off in this ho, watch me crank it watch me roll." In this instance the word "ho" doesn't mean female (or prostitute) either, it is simply him saying that he is here (or rather on this track). In much the same way, when he says "watch me Superman that ho" the word "ho" is not intended to mean a female or a prostitute either. This is a common misunderstand of the slang word "ho" which does not in every slang or ebonics use of the word mean either a female or a prostitute. Often it is just used as a pronoun for any place or object. When he says "superman that ho," Soulja Boy simply means to watch him preform the dance maneuver named the "superman." This usage of the word "ho" can be a significant challenge to explain to persons who haven't heard it used in that formula or that context. I hope I have done this adequately. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Streetknowhow (talk • contribs) 10:06, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Actually, all you've done is make a stream of assertions, which may (or may not) be true, and which may (or may not) be relevant to the article. Please provide credible sources and references. 78.86.33.152 (talk) 13:38, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

I understand that we need to be sure about these things before they are put in the article. However, I find it extremely unlikely that Soulja Boy just happened to use the term "superman that ho", which also has the sexual meaning, to mean something else. If he did not mean it in a sexual way, he probably would have intentionally not used those words as to not have his meaning confused. Perhaps you are correct, but I heavily doubt it. -BBonds —Preceding unsigned comment added by BBonds (talk • contribs) 17:35, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Rumors and urban legend!?!?!? The lyrics are right there sexual innuendo throughout the song if you think that's not true than you're just an idiot!Parralax (talk) 19:08, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

LOOK AT THIS reference - http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=crank+that+ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.170.108.89 (talk) 22:42, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

You know that Urban Dictionary is not considered as a reliable source --Esanchez_{(Talk 2 me or Sign here)} 02:15, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Then did you read "Add section 4 song meaning" above. Whatever is a "reliable source", you will find the same answer. it IS obvious that the lyrics in Crank That and some of his other songs are sexual unless you are blind. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.170.108.89 (talk) 17:10, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

gay pride?

What is up with the gay pride pic of soulja boy? --70.152.229.177 (talk) 00:45, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

It was vandalism, and has been removed. --TeaDrinker (talk) 00:48, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

it was pretty hilarious though.--Dlo2012 (talk) 00:57, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

It's back...lol! Somebody better save dat (Garbage Boy) ViperSnake151 15:16, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

It won't be funny when that IP address and User is prevented from making further edits. Ishmael Rufus (talk) 05:03, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

LOLOL Ok dude. Yes, I always check to see if they're banned before laughing at something. Get a life broham. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.29.234.88 (talk) 03:25, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Actually, that'd make it even funnier. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.19.97.7 (talk) 20:26, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it's my new wallpaper now!--Dlo2012 (talk) 22:42, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Epic. StardustDragon 21:54, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

—Preceding unsigned comment added by A.Shetty787 (talk • contribs) 22:22, 16 July 2008 (UTC) 

UK chart

Crank That has peaked in at number 10 so far in the UK top 40, not 1479.75.180.30 (talk) 11:58, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

I cant edit the page but it has got upto number 3 in the UK charts so someone should edit that. reference - http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/singles.shtml —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.82.208.143 (talk) 00:35, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

I'll do it for you! ≈Alessandro ♫ ^{T • C} 00:39, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

I would've done it myself but the page was locked, ah well he's number 3 now. Thanks for doing that for me79.67.198.235 (talk) 13:56, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism Again

There is alot of vandalism throughout the article, that needs to be cleaned up.

64.149.178.118 (talk) 00:04, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Tell me about it. Clean it UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by A.Shetty787 (talk • contribs) 21:33, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Opinions

To anyone looking to vandalize, needlessly edit, or put commentary in the artice, DON'T.I am tired of seeing in an article 'this song is repetitive' or anything like that. This article has become the target of editors who feel it is important to emphasize that their opinions are fact. If you feel like doing that, then too bad because I'm watching this article closely. wiki_is_unique (talk) 13:57, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't do it myself, but if I see vandalism on this page I won't bother to revert it. Soulja Boy is the cancer that is killing this world. StardustDragon 21:55, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Add that he tried ruining hip hop and no one gives a shit about his music, if you want to call it that.

Initial Reception

Please consider removing the last line of the Initial Reception section, referring to "his goal as making ...music that avoids the negative, violent image that he sees in most hip-hop.[18][17]" This doesn't seem to be his real goal if you look at the lyrics to Crank That Soulja Boy. Even if it is his goal, I think his goal is not relevant to his reception.

Also, if this alleged goal is included anywhere in the article, please balance it with facts about his lyrics. so that people can draw their own conclusions. Lyrics to Crank That Soulja Boy include inviting others to watch him "supersoak dat b*tch" and "superman dat hoe", and perform other mysogynistic acts that are clearly negative and violent. References for translations of the slang include your external link to the words and urbandictionary.com translations of the slang. Some public schools have banned it too - reference http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/20/AR2007122000913.html Another user in the comment above about song meaning references an article by a student who explains very well how it demeans women.

Thank you.Wikiwacky1 (talk) 06:28, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

I think this is a valid point, the two references to the statement are quite vague as to this being his stated goal. I'll see what change I can make, since the article is currently semi-protected. --TeaDrinker (talk) 20:25, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

middle name

I found in another article that soulja boy's real middle name is Cortez. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.8.199.110 (talk) 03:57, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

3 Trillion Downloads Incorrect

The last line under the Career section says Crank That has sold more than 3 "trillion" downloads. As per the link cited [12] Crank That has only sold 3 "million" digital downloads. 3 trillion is an unrealistic number so if someone could change that as it is a glaring error. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.31.62.120 (talk) 06:30, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

This is fixed. The citation provided is sourced to a press release from Interscope records. We could use an independent source confirming this figure, and it being the highest ever. / edg ☺ ☭ 07:13, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Move to Soulja Boy Tell 'Em?

His official name is Soulja Boy Tell 'Em. He was Soulja Boy up until he got sued, and now he's Soulja Boy Tell 'Em.

Because of that, shouldn't we move the page to Soulja Boy Tell 'Em, with "Soulja Boy" redirecting to "Soulja Boy Tell 'Em"?

I don't see why not. Redbull47 (talk) 15:34, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Please move page to appropriate name "Soulja Boy Tell 'Em" since it is the official name of the artist per their management, record label, etc. --WheezyF (talk) 14:30, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

There is no way to move the page since it is move protected. Because of that, I created a redirect instead. Everyone okay with that? Rappingwonders2 (talk) 21:26, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

I just reverted the redirect. The cut and paste move needs to be fixed so edits aren't lost. On another note I strongly disagree with moving the article. Souja Boy is the common name and should be used. No one calls him by his full stage name and so it shouldn't be used. A note at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Hip hop might garner further comments. Eóin (talk) 23:05, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

But he calls himself by that. And some people like to call by that. So actually, some people do call him that. Also, so far, you're the only person that opposes the move. Rappingwonders2 (talk) 20:51, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Didn't know that he called himself that. I still oppose the move on the basis that majority of people refer to him as simply "Soulja Boy". On a technical note the page can be moved with an administrators help. WheezyF had the right idea. Eóin (talk) 01:34, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Crank & Crunk

Hi everyone,

I want to know, is it right that Crank is just choregraphy derivate from Crunk ? Thanks Vortesteur (talk) 21:29, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

certification

I changed his RIAA certification from gold to TBA for Souljaboytellem.com. I did it because there is not listing on the RIAA search database of the album being certified gold. His only certification is a 2x platinum mastertone certification for crank that. Seth71 (talk) 15:40, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

An incorrect reference

Reference 11 says "2004" but should say 2007 as in the article Jtbagwelljr (talk) 03:58, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Soulja Boy on Newgrounds

I think it's very important to keep my edit about Soulja Boy being on Newgrounds, and I know that it is not someone impersonating him because he even advertised that he Newgrounds profile on his website.

~Ya Boi Krakerz~ (talk)

How is it useful? --Esanchez_{(Talk 2 me or Sign here)} 03:04, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Cuz it's amazing! He's probably the only celebrity on NG.

~Ya Boi Krakerz~ (talk)

That's seems to be an opinion. Honestly, I see no reason having it there. It's like SPAM for him. I think it shouldn't be included 'cause there's no point to it. --Esanchez_{(Talk 2 me or Sign here)} 03:07, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Alright but could you AT least keep the link at the bottom the page where it says "External Links" to his Newgrounds profile? Because that's really relevant. ~Ya Boi Krakerz~ (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 03:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Again, how? When a reasonable answer is up, then it can remain. --Esanchez_{(Talk 2 me or Sign here)} 03:25, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok, fine the reasonable answer is why do you have Soulja Boy's MySpace up there but you won't let his Newgrounds mean for god sakes he had a Newgrounds profile long before he had a MySpace, the only reason why he even has a MySpace is because every celbrity does, I'm sure Soulja Boy would love to have his Newgrounds on a Wikipedia page seeing how he always uses his Newgrounds profile cuz he changes the pictures and udates new profile posts alot. He even has new cartoons in the making.

~Ya Boi Krakerz~ (talk)

Other stuff exists is not a good argument for your stuff. Not every site where Soulja Boy has a public account profile is worth listing. Unsigned musicians often use MySpace to post and sell music, which makes it a standard external link for musicians, and especially relevant in Soulja Boy's biography. However, it is not desirable for an encyclopedic article to list Souja Boy's Yahoo profile (if any), or his public profiles on various forums and boards. / edg ☺ ☭ 17:03, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

YOU HAVE HIS GODDAMN YOUTUBE CHANNEL ON HERE FOR THA LOVE OF FUCK HE SHOULD AT-FUCKING-LEAST HAVE HIS DAMN NEWGROUNDS PROFILE... WTF!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

~Ya Boi Krakerz~ (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 19:22, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

If argument via WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS doesn't convince anyone, do you really think repeating same argument using ALLCAPS will get you what you want? Soulja Boy's YouTube video is significant in his biography, predating his official albums and apparently played an important part in getting him signed. You still have not made a case for your link, and it is seeming like you do not have one. / edg ☺ ☭ 20:00, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Sorry but that guy was just pissing me off, I am sorry for the ALL CAPS and tha typed in-cursing but he told me if I gave him a valid point of putting up Soulja Boy's Newgrounds account then it can let be, but he just tackles my fact right back, it's like he's setting me up just to make me look bad.

I mean if Soulja Boy has a YouTube profile (I'm just assuming these videos are on his profile because i'm too lazy to check out his YouTube Channel myself) it probably has Music videos such as his smash hit Crank That with smaller unpopular stuff inbetween. And that is also for Soulja Boy's fans to see what he posts on YouTube, it's really relevant to have his NG profile on this Wiki-page because i'm sure Soulja Boy is proud of his NG profile AND accoringly his cartoons seeing how he leaves an add to his NG profile on the front page of his website.

~Ya Boi Krakerz~ (talk)

Krakerz: You were asked for a "reasonable" answer, and you still have not provided one. This Wikipedia article is not a list of things Soulja Boy is "proud" of. For something along those lines, you might want to ask Soulja Boy to link his NG profile from http://www.souljaboytellem.com .

Please read Wikipedia's external links policy. The NG profile contains no unique information about this article's topic. In fact it contains very little information at all. There is no reason to include it on Wikipedia, other than to promote Newgrounds. It is spam. Please do not add it again. / edg ☺ ☭ 20:29, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Do what you want, I have lost this war... (-_-)...

~Ya Boi Krakerz~ (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 21:45, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Biased toward Southern rap

Quotes like "emphasizing catchy, mindless music that discards rap's traditional emphasis on message" is a bit biased and opinionated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.185.41.21 (talk) 03:17, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Seems fairly neutral to me. Within WP:NPOV, how would you phrase it differently? / edg ☺ ☭ 03:26, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Seems fairly true to me. StardustDragon 22:03, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Soulja Boy as an online personality

I'm getting the impression that prior to his music fame Soulja Boy had made himself a noticeable personality in various online forums, and some of the edits to this article are reactions to his reputation in that space. Does anyone have (reliable, non self published) sources for this? If this is an unusually important part of his image, information on his history and reputation in such circles might be worth including in the article.

I should add that since it is normal for people SB's age to spend much time online, so that fact that SB belongs to certain sites and does stuff online is not ipso facto notable. We need a reliable source saying his presence is remarkably well-known. / edg ☺ ☭ 01:21, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Eazy-E

Someone said that ?Eazy-E? helped produce Soulja Boy's albums and that Soulja Boy's first album sold more copies than Tupac Shakur's record of 75 million album sales. I find this to be B.S. Don't know who Eazy-E is though. Is he working with Soulja Boy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.229.218.109 (talk) 00:36, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

WTF? That's complete nonsense! I don't need much explanation about this. --Esanchez_{(Talk 2 me or Sign here)} 00:43, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Well beside the obvious false 2Pac comment i can give you 3 reasons why Eazy-E didnt produce Soulja boy's ablbum 1.Soulja boy has stated multiple times he produced his whole album on a simple computer program at home all by himself with some minor help. 2.Eazy-E was one of the members of the legendary NWA (you may know members Ice Cube and Dr.Dre) and would never work with someone like Soulja Boy. 3.Eazy-E has been dead for over 10 years. Parralax (talk) 01:01, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

The middle name listed is wrong

Deandre Way's middle name is Cortez and not Ramone. Can someone please edit? Thanks Digitaltemp (talk) 18:16, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually, the sources point at as Ramone. Not Cortez. --Esanchez_{(Talk 2 me or Sign here)} 18:18, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

The Vh1 source listed is incorrect. If you do a google search for Deandre Cortez Way you'll see instances where it is mentioned it is his real name. I work his digital marketing project at his record label and he asked me yesterday to correct his middle name. Digitaltemp (talk) 18:48, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Back up this claim and we'll fix it. --Esanchez_{(Talk 2 me or Sign here)} 18:50, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famecrawler/archive/tags/deandre+cortez+way/default.aspx Digitaltemp (talk) 19:37, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm looking for an update on this - anyone? Digitaltemp (talk) 18:41, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

A random blog does not count as a citation when compared with VH1Parralax (talk) 19:12, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Try looking at Wikipedia:Reliable sources for guidelines. I do notice that there are more hits for "Deandre Cortez Way" than "Deandre Ramone Way". Eóin (talk) 19:22, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Many of those hits may be articles copying "Cortez" from this Wikipedia article, or each other. Last time I checked, the VH1 article was earlier. It may not be 100% certain, but it is a more reliable source than any number of blog mentions. / edg ☺ ☭ 19:52, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

So how does this get resolved? Do I need to contact Vh1 to try and get them to change that page? His middle name is in fact Cortez, and not Ramone. Digitaltemp (talk) 23:15, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

That article is old and unlikely to be updated. How would they have gotten "Ramone" if that is not his middle name? / edg ☺ ☭ 23:26, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Beats me. One person states it wrong once and it virally spread I guess. How about referencing his myspace page? Check his bio - it states Deandre Cortez Way - http://www.myspace.com/souljaboytellem Digitaltemp (talk) 23:32, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Looking for an update on this - anyone? Digitaltemp (talk) 20:20, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

That should be acceptable. Any objections to changing it to Cortez? Eóin (talk) 21:03, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't understand how it changed from Ramone to Cortez, and "Cortez" wasn't on his MySpace page 2 days ago. However, if Mr. Way makes this claim himself, it probably isn't worth disputing. I still doubt this is his birthname. / edg ☺ ☭ 21:47, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Cool - so can you change please? Digitaltemp (talk) 19:37, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Final verdict: According to both AllMusic.com and VH1.com, His last middle name is Ramone...I've seen way more bizarre versions here that haven't been supported reliably. Thus, please do not change the name unless you have real evidence to do so.--Andrewlp1991 (talk) 01:57, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Final verdict? And how did you become the judge in this matter? One obvious mistake you've made is saying his "last name is Ramone." Had you actually read anything, you would know that his MIDDLE name is being disputed. Ramone is thought to be his middle, not last name. So please do not act as though your bogus opinions and self bestowed powers of giving verdicts count for anything. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.242.199.17 (talk) 18:46, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Woops sorry. And please, no personal attacks. --Andrewlp1991 (talk) 06:12, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

While I disagree with the tone of the IP editor, they have a valid point. There was a consensus to change the name listed to Cortez and you should not have unilaterally changed it. There are numerous new sources that use Cortez. e.g. [1] [2] [3] The name should be changed back to Cortez but this time with a note explaining the discrepancy like when it was first changed. [4] ~ Eóin (talk) 05:27, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Still it seems that "Ramone" is correct - that's listed as the middle name on AllMusic.com, arguably the most reliable, authoritative source for information about musicians. VH1, one of America's most popular cable music channels, also lists that. I did some web searching and found some more sources to suggest "Ramone" is correct:

• Joe Gross, Lean with it, crank back and follow the beat. Austin American-Statesman: Sept. 3, 2007 (this was when "Crank That" was topping the charts and so might be right)
• Souljah Boy: Guilty of Stealing and Inseminating. MTV Australia: Jan. 10, 2008

You see, the Internet is full of falsehoods and misinformation, and possibly the "Cortez" was picked up off some Wikipedia vandalism. The Signal is a college-published paper and its reliability is thus questionable.--Andrewlp1991 (talk) 00:08, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Handguns in video!

Soulja Boy is listed here as giving a positive vibe without the violent overtones. But when you look at his original video, the one referenced in his high-money video, he's waving handguns during his dance and pointing them into the audience! Any reasonable fan could only assume the original was the "real" version of the dance and that the one in the mass-released video was censored by a desire for money. Between the unnatural hypersexual and hyperviolent themes, there really needs to be more than one disregarded sentence of controversy. --Mrcolj (talk) 12:20, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Back to School?

If this is real, put up a source.

-Piazzajordan2

It's not

Connection With 50 Cent?

In the thank you notes of Tell'Em.com, Soulja Boy says something like "Thank you 50 Cent". Correct me, if I'm wrong but I don't a loser like this geek would ever write a song with 50 Cent. Is there a secret feud going on between the two? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.171.37.115 (talk) 02:27, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

50 Cent and Soulja Boy are personal friends. Soulja Boy looks up to 50 Cent and would like to have the same commercial and business success as 50. You can check them out together on 50's website on Youtube where he says he likes Soulja Boy alott. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI1OCyPuKqE —Preceding unsigned comment added by Headhunter65 (talk • contribs) 17:23, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Warning?

Is it possible to put a note of concern at the top of the article (and other applicable articles) that it contains questionable language or language unsuitable for readers under a certain age? I don't know the best way to express that, since "questionable," "unsuitable," "foul," or "vulgar" are matters of opinion. Or, instead of directly quoting personalites, put a link to where the quotes came from, so one can choose to read or avoid them. (such as "Click (link) for (celebrity's) comment/response" or a link called "(Celebrity's) comment/response") NBK1122 (talk) 05:35, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:No disclaimers in articles. --Geniac (talk) 13:13, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Soulja Boy Cartoon?

In this Youtube video posted by Soulja Boy (a little after 4:16) he claims that there will be a Soulja Boy cartoon on TV this coming fall. Does anyone have any other information on this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.251.8.59 (talk) 19:11, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Article title

So which name will it be, "Soulja Boy" or "Soulja Boy Tell 'em". The article was recently moved without consensus and I'd like to see a discussion regarding naming. Personally I think "Soulja Boy" should be the title as it is much more commonly use. Additional opinions welcome. 71.210.187.38 (talk) 05:04, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually, the official name has "Tell Em" added to the front, as in All Music Guide, MTV.com, and the official site. An encyclopedia should show the official name of the stage name, and of course the title "Soulja Boy" would work as a redirect to the actual "Soulja Boy Tell Em" title. --Andrewlp1991 (talk) 05:34, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Also Shaheem Reid of MTV News used the "Tell Em" name on this recent interview. But otherwise other media outlets still omit "Tell Em" such as MSNBC, The Dallas Morning News, HipHopDX, and The New York Observer. However, the mainstream media doesn't always get things right, and popular belief isn't necessarily fact. Thus I support "Tell Em" added to the back.--Andrewlp1991 (talk) 05:37, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

More evidence: As early as "Crank That" was a #1 hit back in the fall the press put his official name as "Tell 'Em", as The New York Times (one of the most trusted newspapers in the US) has asserted in October and December of 2007.

SELF EDITED PAGE

Is it only me who notices that this page gets edited almost every week if not in every 2 days range. Soulja boy knows the net as much as We do(editors etc) so am 100% sure that he edits his page too —Preceding unsigned comment added by LarryTheGreat (talk • contribs) 18:39, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

more than that, look at the history HE MADE THE PAGE THE FIRST TIME

Soulja Boy Tellem Signs Shoe and Apparel Deal with Yums Shoes

SANTA MONICA, Calif. (Map) - SANTA MONICA, Calif., July 1 /PRNewswire/ -- Collipark Music / Interscope Records and mega-trend-setting Atlanta rap artist Soulja Boy Tell'em, announce a multi-year sneaker and apparel contract with Yums Shoes that will tap into Soulja Boys Tell'em's growing influence as a top-selling artist. This tier one endorsement allows the rapper, in conjunction with Yums' designer Tex, to design his own signature shoe within the Yums' Block Star line of sneakers, which uniquely emblazon the soles of each colorfully crafted shoe with graffiti art. Soulja Boy Tell'em and Tex will also design street-oriented apparel for Yums Shoes.

(Photo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20080701/LATU532)

Soulja Boy Tell'em's Grammy-nominated Number 1 single "Crank That (Soulja Boy)," from his Platinum souljaboytellem.com CD, ignited an international hip-hop video and dance phenomenon in 2007 and 2008. The song also created a digital download and ringtone frenzy worldwide, with over 3 million downloads of the song and ringtone to date, placing Soulja Boy Tell'em in the forefront of influence on trends and dress styles. This unique coupling between Interscope Records, Soulja Boy Tell'em and Yums Shoes, with its "Block Star" line of boldly colored shoes and graffiti-influence, will utilize Interscope Records' strategic marketing muscle to reach a broader consumer spectrum.

Soulja Boy Tell'em joins forces with Yums "Supa Throwed" designer and legendary Dallas graffiti artist Tex (one of the founding members of Infinity Crew) and JP McDade, CEO of Yums Shoes. Their successful collaboration has positioned Yums Shoes as THE sneaker of choice throughout the hip-hop nation. Tex says of the deal between Collipark Music / Interscope Records, Soulja Boy Tell'em and Yums Shoes: "This is a natural fit for Yums Shoes, Interscope and Soulja Boy Tell'em. It clearly demonstrates how music and fashion blend together." McDade adds, "The shoes and clothing line allow the wearer to express his or her personality, because each shoe is an individual piece of art. Soulja Boy Tell'em will be able to assist in designing shoes and apparel exactly the way he would want them to look. And with Interscope's considerable marketing savvy, we expect this effort to be our biggest, most far-reaching yet."

Super producer Mr. Collipark, who appears on the video to "Crank That (Soulja Boy)," hints at bigger things to come for Soulja Boy Tell'em, adding, "We are very excited and have high expectations for this opportunity and future Soulja Boy Tell'em endeavors, including movies and television."

Steve Berman, President, Sales and Marketing, Interscope Geffen A&M, said of the agreement: "Soulja Boy Tell'em has a sense of cultural radar that's unrivaled. He built his own brand and we were lucky enough to work with him to take it to the next level. Soulja Boy Tell'em's innate sense for what his fans want makes him the perfect artist to have a sneaker line. We're excited to partner with him on this."

Please visit http://www.yumsshoes.com for an extensive display of YUMS Shoes designs, apparel and more.

"Nickelback of hip hop"

'Several reviewers credited Soulja Boy with spearheading a new trend in hip-hop, while speculating he will likely be a one hit wonder.[18][19][20] Even with one review dubbing Soulja Boy the "Nickelback of hip hop"[21].' The use of this quote is confusing. Is it infering that Soulja Boy is going to set a new trend or that Soulja Boy is going to be a one-hit wonder? If it is infering that Nickelback is a one hit wonder, it is erroneous. Nickelback's generic sound is open to criticism, but they do have three multi-platnum albums, and number one hits. The source of the quote, a caption for a picture that is featured on an online college newspaper article that is basically a rant, is shakey no matter what the quote is refering to. (TheFlaviusAetius (talk) 01:38, 22 July 2008 (UTC))

I think they're simply comparing Soulja Boy to Nickelback by musical style. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.90.48.27 (talk) 20:15, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm gonna remove it until there is an explanation of the comparison. --Esanchez_{(Talk 2 me or Sign here)} 03:06, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Funny, I thought he was a no hit wonder PXK ^T /_C 05:09, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

New Image

I found a free licensed picture from Flickr.com and posted it has the new image in the info box. Enjoy. --eric (mailbox) 17:21, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

It's not freely licensed. It's a promo that I've seen used as a promo many times. XxJoshuaxX (talk) 17:53, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Rapper, more like crapper amirite?

Somebody needs to add a section about how soulja boy is committing musical crimes against humanity. 69.217.172.116 (talk) 04:43, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Agreed Kou (talk) 00:23, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Bot report : Found duplicate references !

In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :)

• "soundclick" :
  • [http://www.soundclick.com/members/default.cfm?member=Soulja-Boy Soulja Boy] at [[SoundClick]]
  • [http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=372975 Soulja Boy Official Soundclick Profile]

DumZiBoT (talk) 04:10, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

NOT A RAPPER

Soulja Boy is NOT a rapper. I have changed the first sentence in the article saying that he is an entertainer. I repeat, he is not a rapper. We should not mislead people with false information. Dr.Buu (talk) 07:49, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

edit requested

iSouljaBoy doesn't link anymore, remove the link brackets —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.37.63.25 (talk) 01:43, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Move request to add "Tell 'em" to the name

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was PAGE MOVED per discussion below. -GTBacchus^(talk) 15:49, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Requested move

Soulja Boy → Soulja Boy Tell 'Em — This name is now used throughout the media; "Soulja Boy" can simply be a redirect — Andrewlp1991 (talk) 06:43, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.

• Oppose Bad capitalization (see below). Otherwise, I don't care. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:04, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
• Support moving the page to Soulja Boy Tell 'Em, not Soulja Boy Tell 'em. Xnux the Echidna 00:20, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
• Support per media coverage of the full name. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 19:39, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose While "Soulja Boy Tell 'Em" is used throughout the media so is just "Soulja Boy". He still calls himself that on YouTube and MySpace. I still believe that keeping the article where it is satisfies WP:COMMONNAME. I also that Google has 6x more hits for just "Soulja Boy" rather than "Soulja Boy Tell 'Em" Eóin (talk) 03:31, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
• Comment Of course Soulja Boy appears more on Google than Soulja Boy Tell'em, because "Soulja Boy" is counted as part of "Soulja Boy Tell'em" to Google. In other words, the shorter name will return results for both "Soulja Boy" and "Soulja Boy Tellem," etc. 207.80.142.5 (talk) 20:06, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose "Soulja Boy" seems to be official term, as well as more commonly used. GlassCobra 01:59, 4 September 2008 (UTC) Support Sources provided below indicate that copyright issues forced the rapper to take "Soulja Boy Tell 'Em" as his official name. GlassCobra 02:03, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Support the page should be moved to Soulja boy Tell 'Em because that really is his official and copyrighted name and simply Soulja Boy is just a short little nickname.76.101.122.31 (talk)

Discussion

Any additional comments:

Evidence: Myspace, Allmusic, MTV.--Andrewlp1991 (talk) 06:43, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

• Comment I'm indifferent to whether or not this is moved, but "'em" should be capitalized as it is a contraction of "them." —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:04, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Reply: Actually, "'em" eliminates "th" from "them" so it serves as an "incomplete" version of "them", thus I prefer it be lower case. If people type in other variants "Soulja Boy Tell Em", "Soulja Boy Tellem", "Soulja Boy Tell 'Em", etc. they can be working redirects. --Andrewlp1991 (talk) 06:11, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
    • Reply: Just because "'em" is a contraction of "them" doesn't mean it shouldn't be capitalized. "'Em" is still a noun, and nouns are always capitalized in title case as per WP:CAPS (also, words at the end of phrases in title case are always capitalized as per WP:MUSTARD). There isn't a good reason to ignore these guidelines; most of the media capitalizes the "'em" in Soulja Boy Tell 'Em anyway. Xnux the Echidna 00:19, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
      • Reply: OK you may be right then; I go for capitalizing the E. --Andrewlp1991 (talk) 05:23, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

• If the article is moved I think the prefered name would be "Soulja Boy Tell’em" as per this offical looking bio.[5] Eóin (talk) 03:33, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Still the title on my browser includes the space, as does the site logo. Most other websites prefer the space. --Andrewlp1991 (talk) 05:32, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

• Comment My feeling is that we should go with the spelling on the rapper's personal webpage. SouljaBoyTellEm.com indicates that the correct usage would be "Soulja Boy Tell 'Em," capital E. Further, the lead of the article should be updated to note that the rapper's legal issues forced him to change his name. GlassCobra 02:04, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Sex tape

ATTENTION PEOPLE!!!! THAT IS NOT SOULJA BOY ON THAT TAPE!!!!! I've started hearing rumors about that tape yesterday, and I looked it up this morning. The acutal person on that tape name is Sexcyone and he's and adult entertainer. The reason I know this is because he is a personal friend of mine. Someone who has too much time in their life and can't find something constructive to do to better the world photoshopped Soulja boy on Sexcyone's body. People, please stop the rumors and leave Soulja Boy personal life alone.--— Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.56.90.223 (talk • contribs) 17:30, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

EDIT: Should've said, the link is to explicit material, sorry. Is the sex tape notable? Don't know the policy on this kind of stuff is, mainly was wondering why it hadn't been discussed. Klassobanieras (talk) 00:40, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

This video is liable. It has hit public media and I'm hearing it left and right. I even saw something on FOX News about this earlier today. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.133.194.40 (talk) 01:31, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Don't even think about putting something this speculative in the article. --eric (mailbox) 10:57, 9 September 2008 (UTC)