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Merge: Attack Dogs vs. Guard Dogs

The difference is merely semantical. The two articles should be merged. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.34.68.186 (talk) 04:58, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is breed specific legislation paragraph objective enought?

If not perhapse I should remove the animal racism sentence...Mymazdatribute 01:59, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Legality of training dogs to attack humans

Since when is having a guard dog trained to attack intruders illegal? Seems unlikely that that's the case.

Good question. Person who added it was generally reliable, in my experience, but doesn't seem to have been on wikipedia much since september. I changed the text to "maybe" language & I'll leave a question on user's talk page anyway. Elf | Talk 05:48, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

User's response (from my talk page):

No, I don't have any sources or anything for saying that training a dog to attack people is illegal, but it seems like it is. If a dog attacks a person, the owner of the dog can have files charged against them, so... I dunno. If you think that line should be taken out, go right ahead. Lachatdelarue (talk) 00:04, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've never heard of the practice of training a dog to attack humans being illegal. However, it is certainly true that there are many instances where owners have been held responsible when their dogs have attacked people. The distinction is significant, I think. --Hux 12:40, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I know the training (In the USA) is not illegal as there are trainers in every state who do so for a fee. Many of the trainers also train police dogs and will train bite work on personal dogs as well. However specific breeds may be illegle in some areas, see Breed specific Legislation page here on wiki.Mymazdatribute 01:48, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The mere act of training a dog (or any other animal) to attack is not inherently illegal- However, a trained attack dog is like any other tool (in this case a weapon), and may only be used to meet an equal amount of force. Since the dog is ussually defined as a deadly weapon when used in this fashion, it can only be used to meet lethal force (the force in which a person uses for the purpose of causing, or that a person knows or should know would create a substantial risk of causing, death or serious bodily harm; source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadly_force).

Furthermore, “it seems like it is” is a cop-out of an answer. If that’s the best one can come up with, then leave legal matters to experts. [Avoid Weasel Words] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.102.28.105 (talk) 06:22, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment

Sorry for the delay. Article is generally well constructed, and the references section is definitely welcome. However, I would perhaps change the "References" heading to something else and/or create a different "Bibliography" section to mention all the details about the books referred to. Badbilltucker 18:27, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

will change Mymazdatribute 04:15, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Start class. New information is certainly welcome, but still falls a bit short of B article. Also, the word "interesting" might not be the best choice, as it could be taken as being a bit POV. Badbilltucker 17:35, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Added small commentary on pit bull as guard dog: my reasoning for adding "not always a good choice" is because compared to the others on the list they are less wary of strangers. (Even a doberman or rottie not bred as a guard dog will take time to warm up to you.) Second, the breed was never bred to be a guard and many examples of this breed that I have met would more likely only go batsh@# if an intruder decided to clobber Aunt Edna rather than steal Aunt Edna's stereo.

Watchdog vs. Gurad Dog

I think two seperate articles should be devoted to the two seperate concepts. Watchdogs (dogs that simply bark or "alert") and guard dogs differ in their roles, characteristics, breeds and so on. Why not have a different article for each of them? A little about the Watchdog vs. Gurad Dog debate can be found here: http://www.homesecurityguru.com/recommended-watchdog-breeds Dvirgassner 07:11, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps a distinction between trained guard dogs and simply mean-spirited dogs should be made as well. My personal experience in French-speaking countries is of a lot of "chien mechant" (mean dog) signs posted on people's gates. Beyond these gates are often scared and desocialized dogs waiting to snap at anything that comes close. (I'm not saying this is typical of French-speaking countries, I'm merely using the wording on the signs as an example) My impression is that a real guard dog would have to be trained to be confident and good at independently judging situations, not just being blindly aggressive. This is my 2¢, I'd like to find some sources to back this up first... --GSchjetne (talk) 22:05, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's a sematical diffrence.

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	Perhaps a distinction between trained guard dogs and simply mean-spirited dogs should be made as well. My personal experience in French-speaking countries is of a lot of "chien mechant" (mean dog) signs posted on people's gates. Beyond these gates are often scared and desocialized dogs waiting to snap at anything that comes close. (I'm not saying this is typical of French-speaking countries, I'm merely using the wording on the signs as an example) My impression is that a real guard dog would have to be trained to be confident and good at independently judging situations, not just being blindly aggressive. This is my 2¢, I'd like to find some sources to back this up first... --[[User:GSchjetne\|GSchjetne]] ([[User talk:GSchjetne\|talk]]) 22:05, 8 January 2009 (UTC)		Perhaps a distinction between trained guard dogs and simply mean-spirited dogs should be made as well. My personal experience in French-speaking countries is of a lot of "chien mechant" (mean dog) signs posted on people's gates. Beyond these gates are often scared and desocialized dogs waiting to snap at anything that comes close. (I'm not saying this is typical of French-speaking countries, I'm merely using the wording on the signs as an example) My impression is that a real guard dog would have to be trained to be confident and good at independently judging situations, not just being blindly aggressive. This is my 2¢, I'd like to find some sources to back this up first... --[[User:GSchjetne\|GSchjetne]] ([[User talk:GSchjetne\|talk]]) 22:05, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

			:It's a sematical diffrence.