Talk:Marvel: Ultimate Alliance 2

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Changing pic on the article

There are clearer ones online, like the PS3 game box. Ominae (talk) 03:34, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Nah I wouldn't do that, it would make it look like your favoring the PS3.--Lbrun12415 03:41, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay then. Cause I saw some better ones online though. I thought I'd do the same and crop the PS3 boxart to remove all PS3-related stuff on it in case no one objects. Ominae (talk) 04:46, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Ms Marvel

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/sdcc-09-marvel-ultimate/53235 Look at the text 1:45, she's definately in the game. Probably playable too, but we don't know yet. MylesRW (talk) 23:21, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

If Ms Marvel is playable, that leaves one more character to be announced 24.7.20.12 (talk) 23:45, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

correction it will leave two left since Juggernaut doesn’t count as the 24 since he’s an exclusive. And why isn't she on the playable character list? It say Mrs. Marvel and Invisible women something fusion in the video. I say that's a confirmation that she is playable...--Lbrun12415 03:47, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Juggernaut is listed at http://marvelultimatealliance.marvel.com/#/Characters/ and there are spaces for 24 characters on that page. --PseudoChron (talk) 07:07, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes that is true there are 24 character but Juggernaut is a gamestop exclusive they had to add him to the box. And At E3 it was sadi he's not part of the 24 so there are still 2 more left to be announced. they prob will add another box with the character or they will take Jug's out. http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?sku=200666

I'll add her to the playable characters list I guess - her performing a fusion is confirmation for me. Not only that but this proves her in the game and if she was an NPC she would've been shown already. Obviously it's unfair to use an assumption as a source, but the Gametrailer's video notes that she can perform fusions which, for me, renders her playable. MylesRW (talk) 13:30, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. Planewalker Dave (talk) 16:00, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Just to further back this up... NPCs can't perform fusions. Check out the Gametrailers Latveria video with Nick Fury, no Fusion comes up when the left trigger is held as with the rest of the characters. MylesRW (talk) 16:48, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

So has there been a vignette video for Ms Marvel? I think that should be the only time a character can be confirmed as playable. Either that or that Vala guy announcing it on a sourced video. Strydom21.04 08:37, 05 August 2009 (UTC)

when in the world was vision anounced —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.244.132.93 (talk) 19:57, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

seriously who put the Vision on the list?

I removed Vision there's absolutely no evidence stating his playability or even inclusion in the game MylesRW (talk) 20:45, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Upcoming Characters

"Two more characters in Ultimate Alliance 2 are set to be revealed in the coming month with a third and final character 'never to be announced.'" from http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/100/1007593p1.html Hobocrow (talk) 21:37, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Does anyone know or has anyone heard of any characters that are still to be released? All the characters that were "speculated" all turned out to be confirmed as playable eventually ie. Gambit, Jean Grey, Penance, Ms. Marvel. It was almost confirmed before it happened, but rumors have since died down. Anyone know who the 24th character is? And if Juggernaut is not initially playable, the character that will replace him on the 24 player roster? Most notable "rumors" have been Cyclops, Nova and Psylocke I think. Anyone got something to add regarding this? Strydom21.04 08:14, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Thor

I don't usually comment on these things mainly because everyone starts arguing over the most trivial things which I'm not a fan of, but I just figured I'd voice my opinion on this whole supposed Thor - Pre-Order topic. I checked the site and it merely states that you will recieve a code to "unlock" Thor, which to me says that he will infact already be a playable character in the game to begin with and not, as some have speculated, a Pre-Order Exclusive but simply just a character that will require unlocking as you progress through the game similar to Dr. Strange and others in MU:A 1. X-Men Origins: Wolverine, if pre-ordered from play.com offered an unlock code for his 'classic' costume which could be unlocked anyway where-as if you pre-ordered it from Game then you got an exclusive download for the Weapon X - Training Rooms, much like Juggernaught via. Gamestop & Amazon.

--LloydyJr (talk) 19:20, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

They just updated the V.I.P they said Thor, Jean and many other you will have to unlock.--Lbrun12415 00:15, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Ms Marvel removed?

why did Ms Marvel get removed from the characters list? i thought there was proof she was in from that leaked text in the demo. Hobocrow (talk) 22:02, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

If we want to list her as an 'unknown' that's fine, but we don't have confirmation that she's playable yet. --Teancum (talk) 03:26, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure on this one. Yes, we haven't been told she's playable. However, we do know you can do fusions with her, which pretty much implies that she is. Planewalker Dave (talk) 10:06, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Personally I'd like to wait for a more solid reference. What we know and what Wikipedia needs are two different things. --Teancum (talk) 15:03, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

can't we put her in "other characters" then instead of taking her off the entire list? Hobocrow (talk) 15:23, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

IF you're taking out Ms Marvel because it isn't officially confirmed yet then you should remove almost all the characters in the non playable section. 173.56.59.18 (talk) 00:33, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm okay with her being on there -- she just hasn't been confirmed as playable, so she can't go in that section. --Teancum (talk) 00:42, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

ok i'm putting her in other characters then? Hobocrow (talk) 05:40, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

She has just been confirmed as playable, here is the link to the video: http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/14233937/marvel-ultimate-alliance-2/videos/mua2_trl_msmarvel_vignette_81309.html - So I added her myself, as well as taking her off the other section. Atin25 (talk) 22:52, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Red Hulk

Can we put him on the list now that he is announced as an alternate costume? Or is there a special way he should be added? 98.180.32.127 3:58, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Only VIP members can see that link, so we have no public reliable source to add it. Sorry. I'm sure it'll leak somewhere else reliable soon, but we have to wait. --Teancum (talk) 20:05, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Confirmed

http://www.comicvine.com/jean-grey/29-3552/whatthefunk/92-402716/?page=5

75.11.43.196 (talk) 06:55, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

we can't use that..--Lbrun12415 15:50, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I am a VIP at MUA2 official site and I have seen Red Hulk and im sure that all could post the reference 2 get 2 the news part of the site so the VIPS who go to wikipedia can get there and start psoting pictures of him. I could go there right now and upload it on the MUA2 Page for the doubtin' folksMastercarr (talk) 00:50, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

It needs to be posted from a reliable source; in other words, a gaming news site or the like. Since the VIP section is private and nothing has been posted on a major public site we don't have the sources to back it up on Wikipedia, even though it's true. --Teancum (talk) 01:06, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

I have the picture on my PC and I can upload it at will-Mastercarr (talk) 14:24, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

The picture itself isn't reliable, as it could easily be faked. It has to come from somewhere that people trust; sites like Gamespot, Kotaku, GameSpy, IGN, etc. It doesn't really add to the article anyways, as listing all of the alternate costumes would fall under WP:GAMECRUFT. --Teancum (talk) 15:23, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't know where you would put the alternate costume information. Maybe it is best left off, BUT I do think that the OFFICIAL WEBSITE is a reliable source (even if it is for VIP's only) and that whoever says it isn't, no matter what they say, they are finding reasons not to add it. I'm trying hard not to be "aggressive" toward anyone, but I think you are just sour you do not have VIP access. Apologies if you do, but that is the only reason I could think that you would be so against putting up this information because of an "unreliable source". I have read the WP:GAMECRUFT and I don't think that's sufficient information not to put it up. But I do think that alternate costumes don't have a place to be listed individually on this page. Strydom21.04 08:25, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Of course the official website is a reliable source. The problem is, not everyone can see it. I know I'd be unconvinced if someone said "Ninja Santa Claus is in MUA2!" then followed it with a ref that basically says "it's here, really, but *you* can't see it". Just doesn't work well as a reference unfortunately, despite the fact we all know Rulk is there as an alternate costume. Planewalker Dave (talk) 09:38, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

As far as WP:GAMECRUFT goes, my point wasn't that it wasn't worth mentioning, but rather that we can mention in the prose of the article that each character has alternate costumes, and that some are based on different characters. That statement alone covers all alternate costumes, keeps the article concise, and doesn't spoil the game. GameFaqs is much better suited for intricate details such as that. In the case of Rulk, he's only a custume for Hulk, and isn't actually Red Hulk, so it doesn't really need specific mention. --Teancum (talk) 13:37, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

For a resource, would http://www.herohq.com/forums/viewthread/11256/ work? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.195.110.73 (talk) 01:41, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Nope, forums are not considered reliable. It's just an alternate "outfit" anyways, which is doesn't belong in the article. --Teancum (talk) 02:06, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Cloak & Dagger

Shouldn't the two be separated as they are two separate and unique entities? Just 'cause they always tag along after each other doesn't make them one and the same. The Fantastic Four are always together but they get listed individually despite falling into the same pit fall previously mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AntiChristME (talk • contribs) 19:13, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, they only have one wikipedia article between the two of them, so it seems to make sense to keep them together. Planewalker Dave (talk) 19:43, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

the cloak and dagger most be separated —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.129.12.48 (talk) 11:40, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

As Planewalker Dave already said, there aren't two separate articles for them here at Wikipedia, there is one article for both. We will follow the Wikipedia standard. If other sites want to separate them, fine. But this isn't a gaming site, it's an encyclopedia. --Teancum (talk) 14:57, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Black Panther

On the MUA 2 achievements page a logo with a cat for the achievement save a nation was shown. Wakanda is the only Nation in the Marvel Universe that has a cat on its logo. Meaning that Black Panther will have a role in the game either as an NPC or a playable character.-Mastercarr (talk) 19:44, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Not necessarily - remember Storm is married to Black Panther, so she could be the one saving the nation. --Teancum (talk) 21:39, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

When U think of Wakanda U think of Black Panther so most likely it is Black Panther, and even if it is Storm Im sure that Black Panther will definitely be in the story00:59, 18 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mastercarr (talk • contribs)

Sure. We just need something more iron clad to add it. --Teancum (talk) 01:19, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry but unless they give a pic of him in a trailer he shouldn't be added. Yes when you think of Wakanda you think Panther but unless you see him then you don't know. (Theliterate (talk) 13:47, 18 August 2009 (UTC))

I could have gone without the unless you see him you dont know part-Mastercarr (talk) 13:54, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

I was trying to be clearer in case my first sentence was understood. (Theliterate (talk) 14:04, 18 August 2009 (UTC))

The Number of Casualties in the Plot Section

This is probably totally pointless, but it has been bugging me so here goes: The number of civilian casualties in the Plot section states the number is 600, but it is over 600, 612 to be exact (according the the comics). Should someone modify it to say "over 600" or something. 72.189.192.145 (talk) 01:22, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Done. --Teancum (talk) 02:20, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Unlockables

I was wondering why aren't the unlockables listed? It was already confirmed on the official website you have to find artifacts to unlock Jean and Hulk because they don't fit into the Civil War comic story. Is the reason why because it's too specific for the characters or what? (Theliterate (talk) 13:45, 18 August 2009 (UTC))

Unlockables may change, but more importantly there are other sections of the article that need more attention than the characters section, such as the intro and Gameplay sections. The character table will be updated over time, but there are so many characters we don't know the status of that there's no need to update it at this point. --Teancum (talk) 13:49, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't believe the unlockables I have listed will change, but the probability of it is still there. Ok. (Theliterate (talk) 14:01, 18 August 2009 (UTC))

Developers

Shouldn't the developer section be changed at the end? It says the developer Vicarious Visions but VV is only one of the developers. There are different ones for some of the systems. For example Nspace does the Wii and PS2 version. [1] (Theliterate (talk) 14:03, 18 August 2009 (UTC))

It should, yes. But there has been zero information reported about any versions but the PS3 and 360, so we have nothing to add for the other devs. --Teancum (talk) 14:13, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Cyclops

It is stated in the article Cyclops in other media that Cyclops is to appear in this game, but there is no mention of this in the article for the game. Should it be removed from the article about Cyclops' appearances in other media, since there is no source? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.231.228 (talk) 23:00, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it should. --Teancum (talk) 01:44, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Debateable - http://www.giantbomb.com/zach-hanks/72-86436/ I don't know how "reliable" this will be in the eyes of Wikipedia policies, so I haven't included him in any of the character sections. But I like to think where there is smoke, there's fire. That has been the case for almost all the characters that have been confirmed so far. Strydom21.04 08:13, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I wouldn't say they're particularly reliable (though here's a better link for that website), since it doesn't state where they're getting their information from. EVula // talk // ☯ // 06:19, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

I have read a numberous amount of times now that Cyclops, Psylocke and Blade are going to be initially playable exclusively to the Wii console to compensate for Wii owners not being able to download any DLC characters. Obviously this is still to be confirmed, and hopefully these 3 characters will still be available to download for other consoles. Strydom21.04 10:48, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Contessa Allegra De Fontaine

I recieved an email from Lani Minella herself. Her email is lani@audiogodz.com She told me she was voicing Lucia Von Bardas and Contessa Allegra De Fontaine. So this confirms she is in the game, most likely as a NPC. Can this be added to the article. I'm sick of being told it's not true. Email her yourself and she will tell you.--Billybob4412 (talk) 23:58, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

No, you need a reliable source. "An email you got" doesn't cut it. --Teancum (talk) 01:02, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Iceman

He was leaked on Twitter earlier by GMRJen as a playable. We can't add him yet though, right? But should I add him to the NPCs? MylesRW (talk) 05:21, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Just out of curiosity, what exactly got leaked? Did 'GMRJen' actually say he will be playable? Anything about him being DLC? Strydom21.04 08:27, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

We can't add Iceman at all because we don't have a reliable source. And to answer Strydom21.04's question, someone asked GMRJen what his favorite character moves were -- he said Iceman's freeze beam was one of them. But the post was removed from Twitter, so we have no reliable proof. --Teancum (talk) 13:19, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

The post still shows up in search results, even though it was "deleted". http://twitter.com/search?q=GMRJEN%20iceman%20freeze --PseudoChron (talk) 17:15, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

If in the MUA2 Guide it says and shows Iceman, could we then put him on the list? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zmikey08z (talk • contribs) 19:38, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

MUA2 Guide? Like a strategy guide? Yeah, that would cover it. What sort of guide are we talking about?

That's esaclty what I ment. The strategy guide out tomorrow. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zmikey08z (talk • contribs) 15:19, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Which guide is this? The official strategy guide is listed as coming out on the 8th on Amazon.24.190.34.219 (talk) 22:19, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Apparently, Iceman has been leaked by the same source that leaked Gambit, Jean Grey and Penance. That, as well as his 'Ice Beam' being talked about by GMRJen, I am very positive about him being unveiled next. Apparently (for lack of a better word) on the 3rd September. Appologies for all the "apparently's". Strydom21.04 10:55, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

And now it's finally official! Strydom21.04 11:00, 04 September 2009 (UTC)

Scorcher as a boss

Scorcher has ben confirmed as a boss [2] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.177.201.92 (talk) 01:07, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Added --Teancum (talk) 15:05, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Spider-woman

Spider-woman and Lady Deathstrike have been announced as "characters you will encounter." There is nothing confirming them as being playable. http://comics.ign.com/articles/101/1018503p1.html Hobocrow (talk) 04:15, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Added --Teancum (talk) 15:05, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Hydra

I can't say who out of Hydra will be in, but it looks as if Hydra Agents will be in. http://uk.comics.ign.com/dor/articles/1018503/touring-the-marvel-ultimate-alliance-2-universe/images/touring-the-marvel-ultimate-alliance-2-universe-20090826023758619.html?page=mediaFull On the wall, there is a Hydra sign. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.212.166.87 (talk) 15:16, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Punisher & Nova

Stop adding them to the list. Neither are confirmed. Punisher has next to no chance either since Iceman is practically confirmed and the last character has to be a flier due to the character select screen MylesRW (talk) 00:30, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

N1ckth3m4n is doing it, he even admits it on the MUA2 forums (He uses the same name) http://www.herohq.com/forums/viewthread/12689/P0/. If he's continually doing it we should report him or whatever. Ahbarnum (talk) 03:20, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Why does the last character have to be a flier? Hobocrow (talk) 13:49, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Because, they showed the character select screen, and blotched out the characters that were yet to be revealed. The character that has yet to be announced was blotched out near the top of the group, proving that he/she is in flight. Strydom21.04 08:21, 02 September 2009 (UTC)

That doesn't mean anything. If I were a developer, I'd do that to throw folks off. --Teancum (talk) 12:17, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Not once have VV admitted to doing anything to try and "throw off" any speculations. I'm pretty sure that's a fact, not just my opinion. Strydom21.04 07:50, 03 September 2009 (UTC)

True, but the point is that nobody knows. --Teancum (talk) 13:28, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Cyclops, Blade, and Psylocke

It seems these three have been leaked as Wii Exclusives. http://www.flickr.com/photos/17215486@N07/3878769884/ and http://www.flickr.com/photos/17215486@N07/3877974261/in/photostream/

I am not gonna add it myself, as I am not sure if it is credible enough to use. =D do with it what you will. 72.189.192.145 (talk) 20:06, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Somebody stop me. I wanna get da ok b4 I start puttin da Wii esclusives in da character section wher dey belong. so any1 gonna say sometin98.117.43.50 (talk) 01:40, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

They'll be removed until we get a reliable source. Unfortunately even though the pictures are real and confirmed by mutiple people, we have to have a news source or something of the like to add them, as that's how Wikipedia works. --Teancum (talk) 02:21, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I think the image at the back of the packaging for the very game itself, is more verification than what any producer could say, because they could be trying to "throw us off" according to some people. But that's just my opinion. Strydom21.04 13:00, 03 September 2009 (UTC)

And at the same time we didn't know if those pics where just a photoshopped cover slid into a DVD case until other similar pics started surfacing. I'm sure a news source will report them being in soon, and if not the game's being released soon, so the game itself will be the actual proof Wikipedia needs. --Teancum (talk) 13:33, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Looks like they are confirmed on the VIP site, along with the Sentry and She-Hulk for the PSP, but since I'm not a member, I can't confirmed this. --KidKon —Preceding undated comment added 06:51, 4 September 2009 (UTC).

Yeah. I'm a VIP member. They confirmed Psylocke, Cyclops and Blade as exclusive characters for the Wii, PS2 and PSP versions. Sentry and She-Hulk were confirmed as exclusive for the Nintendo DS version. 201.83.237.31 (talk) 07:38, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Here is a video where they are confirmed. http://pax.gamespot.com/video/6216798/?hd=1&tag=top_storiesplay_btn7 (Blade, Psylocke, and Cyclops) as well some other interesting info for the Wii. Do with it what you will. =] 72.189.192.145 (talk) 21:09, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Alternate Costumes

Just wondering, where did we get the information that each character will only have one alternate, unlockable outfit? Seems a bit strange that they'd limit it like that when the games boasts to outdo the last when the original had four costumes for each hero. Anyone got sources for this info for me to have a browse at? Would appreciate it. Thanks.--LloydyJr (talk) 13:24, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

From Dan Vondorak's Twitter page. He's the creative director for Vicarious Visions. Check Reference #11 for information. He mentioned that there's only one "right now", but given that he posted that with less than a month until the game shipped it's pretty safe information. --Teancum (talk) 15:18, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Now that the 24 PCs have been revealed...

Maybe it's time to reformat the chart? There of course should be the PC section, but the arbitrary distinction between "Other Characters" and "Enemies"? First, at least four of the "Other Characters" (Backlash, Bullseye, Lady Deathstrike, Moonstone) are villains. Second, do we have any confirmation that all the "Enemy" characters will appear as bosses? For all we know they could just be NPC villains in the game that you talk to. I propose, for now, to either merge the "Other Characters" and "Enemies" sections; or separate the two sections as "NPC Heroes" and "NPC Villians"; until, at least, we have actual confirmation that they are bosses and not just NPCS. Also the notes for the "Other Characters" section needs to be amended.~ 24.190.34.219 (talk)

Well, there's a couple of issues. 1-Juggernaut doesn't count towards the 24. He's an extra DLC character if you pre-order. 2-We need to add Blade/Psylocke/Cyclops as PS2, PSP and Wii exclusive, but I can't find a reliable source yet. 3-No sources that have been found have confirmed Backlash, Bullseye, Lady Deathstrike, Moonstone as enemies in the game, only that they'll be in it. If you can find sources for them being a common enemy to both pro-reg and anti-reg, we can put them there. --Teancum (talk) 20:11, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Would this be considered a good source for Psylocke, Cyclops and Blade? http://pax.gamespot.com/video/6216798/?hd=1&tag=top_storiesplay_btn7 KingKon97 (talk) 23:54, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Shocker..again

It's now official that they change the site's concept art after several months. so now it should be clear that we should put him in the other characters section until he is a confirmed villain, end of story-Mastercarr (talk) 21:42, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Doesn't matter. The point is the old version of the website doesn't exist anymore, so we have nothing to reference against to prove that he's in the game. A handful of us saw the old website, but word of mouth isn't enough proof. --Teancum (talk) 21:44, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Actually, if you go into the desktop section of the site, they posted the old murals up as wallpaper. So, since we have no idea if he's a NPC or Boss, I'll put him in others. I would post a link to the desktop, but it still remains as the site's regular URL. So, we can put this to rest. Atin25 (talk) 22:35, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Looks like Mastercarr wass right all along :)98.117.43.50 (talk) 23:26, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

no one said he was wrong. But since the old mural was taken down, there wasn't any physical proof of Shocker anymore. As I have seen Teancum explain numerous times. The desktops were put up relatively recently, so NOW we have the physical proof again (least I believe so). 72.189.192.145 (talk) 00:42, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Yep, and even though there's no in-game proof of him (there has been of all other characters) I'm willing to budge since we have something to go by for the powers that be. --Teancum (talk) 01:46, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Added a note to it so people won't delete him when editing the characters section... like i did earlier Hobocrow (talk) 03:04, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Juggernaut PS3/XBox 360 only?

I'm just curious because it doesn't say that on the official wesite. Nor does it mention Cyclops, Psylock, She-Hulk, etc. on the official site. 75.157.107.206 (talk) 04:03, 8 September 2009 (UTC)