Talk:Tree climbing

Redirect

There is currently a recreational tree climbing article, while tree climbing is a red link. Because there are many things that could be written that would apply equally well to commercial or activist tree climbing as recreational climbing, it seems logical to move this article to tree climbing (leaving a redirect at recreational tree climbing, of course) and then make the current content of this article a mere section of a larger one. Any objections? Anyone else want to be bold and do it before I get around to it? - leif ☺ _(talk) - 22:36, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)

Seems sensible to me - MPF - 21:56, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Makes sense to me, does anyone object? - John.james - 14:51, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Recreational activity origins

Started by children

Isn't it safe to say that recreational tree climbing was started by children, and not environmentalists? - 165.91.174.179 - 09:10, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree. I just don't believe "Tree climbing as a recreational activity emerged in the early 1980s". Surely recreation and tree-climbing are way older than that! 82.45.8.208 (talk) 15:16, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I've tried to clarify. Still needs sourcing, though. — Satori Son 15:48, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

First grove

The first tree climbing grove was established in Atlanta, Georgia by Peter "Treeman" Jenkins in 1983 (see "The Founder's Grove" in www.treeclimbing.com ). In France, the first tree climbing organization was created in Annonay, Ardèche, by "Les ACCRO-Branchés" in 1989. - 84.100.185.207 - 09:02, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Small mistake, in France the first tree climbing organization was created in Paris, Ile-de-France by "Tree Climbing France" in 2005 (www.treeclimbing.fr). Following the meeting of Peter Jenkins with the two "Tree Climbing France" founders at the 2005 Tree Climbing Rendez-vous, in Oregon. In 1989, "Les ACCRO-Branchés" created the first Accrobranche® organization in Annonay, Ardèche, France (see "Historique" in http://www.accrobranche.org ). - 79.89.109.158 - 10:22, 8 October 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.81.151.72 (talk)

Climb trees in Germany

The 14 April 2009 at 15:30, 79.110.95.2 (talk) adds the text below on "Tree climbing history" :

Christian Kiel and Phillip Richdale started climbing large trees considered unclimbable with traditional climbing techniques in the early 1980s in northern Germany. They are generally credited for being the first to broadly apply modern climbing equipment, styles and techniques specifically to climb high trees in a non-invasive and non-destructive fashion. Kiel and Richdale were the first to use sophisticated mountaineering and climbing gear such as modern free climbing harnesses, jacket-core climbing ropes, climbing-snaplinks made of zirkal-aluminum-alloy and various types of static climbing and spelunking-ropes and hoops specifically assembled for the purpose of climbing trees such as old beeches, sycamores and other larger leaf trees suited for extended climbing. They developed a ranking system for difficulty levels in tree climbing and a terminology for describing trees from a climbing perspective. They also adopted the habit of naming trees as free climbers commonly name their climbing routes. Their tree climbing style emphasizes leaving wildlife undisturbed (to the extent of avoiding a tree entirely), ascending 'unclimbable' leaftrees, safety-first, a wide variety of knots and rope techniques and non-destructive treetop summiting. They used the English term "tree climbing" to distinguish from its more general sense in the native German word "Baumklettern" and refer to the free climbing and later big wall climbing movement as inspiration for their style of tree climbing.

Thank for this information, but can you give citations and references on this discussion page. In the meantime, I have deleted this text because the world tree climbing community consider that Peter Jenkins (with his Atlanta school created in 1983) is the "father" of recreational tree climbing. Moreover I have not found German organization who purpose recreational tree climbing like TC-Japan, TC-USA, TC-France, TC-Canada, TC-Taiwan, etc. —86.69.62.198 (talk) 15:01, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Techniques & gear origins

Tree climbing techniques and gear aren't derived from "professional tree climbers (arborists)". Tree climbing gear & techniques are principaly derived from rock climbing and caving. And also used to climb trees by "Arborists climbers". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.195.83.28 (talk) 16:29, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

The techniques described here don't look anything like the what the tree service guys do that I've seen. They ususally just have a strap around the trunk of the tree and they move the strap up as they ascend. —66.60.137.134 (talk) 18:10, 10 October 2008 (UTC)