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Add in new album :) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/92.232.155.12|92.232.155.12]] ([[User talk:92.232.155.12|talk]]) 21:15, 15 April 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Add in new album :) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/92.232.155.12|92.232.155.12]] ([[User talk:92.232.155.12|talk]]) 21:15, 15 April 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== LGBT discussion ==

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Could the last paragraph of "Musical sytle and influences" (the part after the Rilke quotation) be split off into a separate section entitled "Gay icon" or similar? It really has terribly little to do with her musical style or musical influence. Thanks, [[Special:Contributions/86.45.150.20|86.45.150.20]] ([[User talk:86.45.150.20|talk]]) 01:12, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

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Former good article nomineeLady Gaga was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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August 20, 2009Good article nomineeNot listed

Just Dance 30 second clip

Anyone else notice how loud/compressed that clip is? I had my speakers at about 60% as they usually are in default and that thing nearly blew them to pieces (brand new laptop too! yikes, we all know how weak those speakers are. I'm not savvy enough to replace the clip with a properly mastered version, so if there is anyone out there, it would be great! it would be a shame to remove it altogether as its a great addition to the page otherwise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.88.88.46 (talk) 01:12, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Origin of Name?

Anyone know where her name comes from? Gaga means soft in the head, senile etc. It's not exactly a concept to make yourself marketable so why select it? 118.208.121.198 (talk) 17:17, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Music producer Rob Fusari, who helped her write some of her earlier songs, compared her vocal style to that of Freddie Mercury. Fusari helped create the moniker Gaga, after the Queen song "Radio Ga Ga". The singer was in the process of trying to come up with a stage name, when she received a text message from Fusari that read "Lady Gaga".

Every day, when Stef came to the studio, instead of saying hello, I would start singing 'Radio Ga Ga.' That was her entrance song. [Lady Gaga] was actually a glitch; I typed 'Radio Ga Ga' in a text and it did an autocorrect so somehow 'Radio' got changed to 'Lady'. She texted me back, "That's it." After that day, she was Lady Gaga. She’s like, "Don’t ever call me Stefani again." Rob Fusari

Those who can read, are clearly in adventage. --It's Flo (talk) 00:21, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

LOL —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiki Wonda (talk • contribs) 15:39, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gossip Girl cameo ...

Can you add she has made a cameo in Gossip Girl on the episode "Tthe Last day of the disco stick"? And she is working with Tarantino? AriandaGAGA (talk) 13:49, 29 March 2010 (UTC) AriandaGAGA[reply]

2010 Studio Album

It has announced by GaGa herself on her fansite, GaGaDailyhttp://gagadaily.com/2010/03/lady-gaga-in-the-gagadaily-chat-box/and on MTV http://www.mtv.co.uk/artists/lady-gaga/news/201324-lady-gaga-my-next-album-will-be-my-best-yet that she started her new album. Please acknowledge this in the article and don't delete it. PinkFunhouse13 (talk) 20:54, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You must have missed that fansites are not considered reliable sources. Please see also WP:FANSITE which was cited in the initial revert by another user. Until this information is reported by third party neutral reliable sources, like information on twitter, it is not allowed on Wikipedia. --Morenooso (talk) 20:56, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Stick to the facts and introduce a new section. However be advised a Future tag could be added as this info is subject to change. --Morenooso (talk) 21:01, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Her appearance and announcements at Gagadaily and then Twitter are all over the entertainment news. She has apparently already written the core of the album and mentioned writing at least one song in Liverpool. It might be that one she referred to as the "Anthem for our Generation". DinDraithou (talk) 22:34, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
We are not here to report what lady ga ga says here and there about an album promotion. Off2riorob (talk) 22:39, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
He can use the MTV report as long as he sticks to the facts. --Morenooso (talk) 23:07, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There is nothing to stick to at all, this is a biography of a person not a advert that she may or may not be releasing an album, it should not be included untill it is a real thing. Off2riorob (talk) 23:11, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Disagree, and I will bring this to a board where can be resolved if he presents a good edit. --Morenooso (talk) 23:13, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Go for it. Off2riorob (talk) 23:14, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In March 2010 Lady Ga ga announced that she was going to release another album before the end of the year and that it would be her best yet.[1]
I could live with that edit as a new section with a future tag placed on it. --Morenooso (talk) 23:24, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It is a valueless addition and a future tag and people would be attracted to it like a magnet adding rumour and gossip all the time, better not add it, you could say and add the same comment to any singers article on the wikipedia, they are likely trying to release an album this year and they all think it will be their best. Off2riorob (talk) 23:28, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately future projects do exist in lots of Wikipedia articles. As long as the addition is reliably sourced and reflects what is said in the article without weasel words, almost anything can be added as per Jimbo Wales' express wish about Wikipedia. --Morenooso (talk) 23:33, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
A great current example of this 24 with Kiefer Sutherland and Fox's announcement last night that this season is the last along with a future film tease. --Morenooso (talk) 23:40, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well you know my position about this content, its valueless. The fact that similar rubbish has been added elsewhere or some vague link to Jimbo saying to fill up the wikipedia with such worthless, speculative, self promotional, fanzine content does not change my position at all. Off2riorob (talk) 23:42, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it should be included either; but if it is, don't molest the article by mixing caps in the header like almost every user has done so far. And don't add it under discography as 2010, TBA or TBR, or whatever. That is a clear violation of WP:CRYSTAL. Nymf hideliho! 23:46, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I only advocate a new section, properly sourced and that reflects just the facts. No additions as per Nymf. --Morenooso (talk) 23:52, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I see Morenoso has requested a third opinion, asking for a third opinion in this case is not correct there are already multiple editors involved. Off2riorob (talk) 23:54, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I added it for a TO while just you and I were involved. Let's see what the TO says. --Morenooso (talk) 23:55, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Third opinions have the value of another editors interpretation of the policy, it has no authoritative claim, it is better to simply wait and allow editors to comment here. Off2riorob (talk) 00:01, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
What about Britney Spears new album, that is not included, she is releasing an album sometime this year and she says it is going to be her best yet. It was going to be released in June according to the rumors but she has set it back. No June Release for Britney Spears' New Album http://www.celebrity-mania.com/news/view/00011985.html Off2riorob (talk) 00:05, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Understood. But, it does carry weight especially in disputed edits that could escalate. I thought we had a possible solution but everyone seems to get torqued off by one thing or another. BTW, you can see this wikilink, the free encyclopedia anyone can edit on Wikipedia's mainpage. It is a core tenet. --Morenooso (talk) 00:10, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I was just blocked by your edit from posting my initial reply. Bringing up Spears is a common failed argument known as WP:OTHERCRAP in AfD. --Morenooso (talk) 00:10, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In a nutshell, if someone could find a reliable source, it could be cited in her article.--Morenooso (talk) 00:12, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If your asserting that any content of whatever dubious value can be inserted into a BLP I do not agree with you at all. As far as uther crap goes, that is fair enough, we as wikipedia editors filter all content cited or not for value to the reader and the long term value to the article, your claim would simply create a stuffed article full of any content found anywhere, this content by its very nature has no long term value, its good for a fanzine or a celebrity magazine but here in a biographical article about her life, do you not see how worthless it is? Off2riorob (talk) 00:22, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Dubious content is never allowed. Please, let's stay on topic and civil. --Morenooso (talk) 00:25, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

http://gagadaily.com/2010/03/lady-gaga-on-the-kyle-and-jackie-o-show/ - I know it's from the fansite, but it's a reliable interview. Yet, it confirms a third album but maybe not in 2010 (but I assume it will be out this year, but that's just me). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.49.91.211 (talk) 00:02, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Response to third opinion request:
It may be appropriate to have some mention of this new album. However, as fansites are indeed not particularly reliable sources, I suggest wording in the form that makes this clear, such as According to GaGa's website, she intends to release an album in 2010. Any more information must come from reliable third party sources and must not be speculative.—Welshleprechaun (talk) 21:15, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Capitalization

Is it Lady Gaga or Lady GaGa? MaJic Talk 2 Me. I'll Listen. 08:28, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The CamelCase version GaGa is often found in media coverage, but it is wrong. Only the naughty, lazy journalists do this.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 08:37, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much for this. MaJic Talk 2 Me. I'll Listen. 08:44, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Gaga herself writes it "Gaga" http://twitter.com/ladygaga Save-Me-Oprah(talk) 08:19, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In the beginning of her career "GaGa" was used, so I think it should at least be noted on the "Also known as" section Lucas RdS(talk) 02:39, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This would need a reliable source.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 06:15, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This promotional video for her debut studio album, The Fame, made by herself shows her name as "Lady GaGa":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0R4qOsfSbs , as well Billboard news of her topping the Hot 100 chart with "Just Dance" and "Poker Face": http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/lady-gaga-dances-to-the-top-of-hot-100-1003928479.story#/bbcom/news/lady-gaga-dances-to-the-top-of-hot-100-1003928479.story http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/lady-gaga-draws-a-pair-of-no-1s-1003957967.story#/bbcom/news/lady-gaga-draws-a-pair-of-no-1s-1003957967.story Lucas RdS(talk) 20:26, 9 April 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.6.154.89 (talk) [reply]

Although often spelt Gaga even by herself, on Interscope Records she is officially known as Lady GaGa, which is how it is also spelt on iTunes and thus on millions of iPods. Also, the name is derived from the song Radio GaGa which is spelt GaGa. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiki Wonda (talk • contribs) 15:26, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, the song is called "Radio Ga Ga," so either way you typecase her name it's still an inspired moniker, not a direct quotation of the title. Draeth Darkstar (talk) 22:24, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALSO the badge she is wearing in the picture of her giving a speech at the Equality march near the bottom of the page says GaGa on it. HA. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiki Wonda (talk • contribs) 15:44, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Her official website and Twitter profile use Gaga, so this is the current "official" spelling. Whether GaGa has ever been an officially endorsed spelling is harder to say, and there needs to be some more sourcing on this before stating it as a fact in the article.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 18:14, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Could the next person that does a meet and greet PLEASE ask her?!? --Wiki Wonda (talk) 10:36, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

MTV Logo Award Nomination and Television Debut (2008)

Pop music blog ArjanWrites.com nominated Lady Gaga for the MTV Logo NewNowNext ArjanWrites.com Brink of Fame Song Award in 2008 for "Just Dance." [1][2] [3]. Her nomination for this award let to her television debut in North America.[4]

(Timadriaansz (talk) 18:13, 2 April 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Most influential people in the world

Time has recently published a poll of most influential people in the world and GaGa is number one ... can we add this? http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1972075_1976159_1976160,00.html 93.150.10.187 (talk) 19:15, 5 April 2010 (UTC) AriandaGAGA[reply]

Unless I'm misreading this, I don't think they've published the results of the poll yet - Gaga is the first person listed in the 200 candidates, but that doesn't mean she is at number one in the results. If she ends up being in the results, particularly if she is high up in the list, that would probably be worth mentioning; but let's hold off until the results are actually published.VoluntarySlave (talk) 19:37, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, looks like a list of candidates, in which GaGa is at the top of the list but doesn't look to be first in terms of ratings. SpigotMap 19:40, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No ... Gaga is really the first because the votes she received ...the third number ... 173396 ... means her influence not the rankings because one people just can receive one vote ( 100 points) and his ranking just can be 100 ... olso time has said she is first 93.150.10.187 (talk) 21:13, 5 April 2010 (UTC) AriandaGAGA[reply]

Well then, what does the rating mean? SpigotMap 21:26, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think any of the information is clear on that table. Time doesn't explain their methodology for how they rank the candidates. However, looking at the table, it's neither based on number of votes received nor average rating. —C.Fred (talk) 21:46, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In other words, candidates are ranked on the basis of how many additional copies of the magazine may be sold by putting that person's photo on the cover ?
86.25.123.143 (talk) 08:38, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There is a parallel here with WP:BADCHARTS. Magazine polls like this usually mean very little.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 09:10, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Queen of pop

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honorific_nicknames_in_popular_music Lady Gaga has named queen of pop ... let's add thissss AriandaGAGA (talk) 17:48, 8 April 2010 (UTC) AriandaGAGA.[reply]

Alejandro

Just as her other singles were, Alejandro should be included into her bio. --Arathun (talk) 15:15, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New Album title

Control?? Reference for this? 80.6.13.106 (talk) 17:38, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Add in new album :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.232.155.12 (talk) 21:15, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

LGBT discussion

Could the last paragraph of "Musical sytle and influences" (the part after the Rilke quotation) be split off into a separate section entitled "Gay icon" or similar? It really has terribly little to do with her musical style or musical influence. Thanks, 86.45.150.20 (talk) 01:12, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ http://www.youtube.com/arjanwrites#p/u/42/THdEp3MOV0o
  2. ^ http://www.arjanwrites.com/arjanwrites/2008/05/vote-now-introd.html
  3. ^ http://www.logotv.com/shows/newnownext_awards/2008/nominees.jhtml
  4. ^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQLsvnsvNcQ
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