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Hey, thanks for the invite to the Wikipedia Club. Unfortunately, I'm no longer in Ann Arbor. I wish that I am still there. So, I can't be at your meeting in the Chemistry building, which by the way, is one of my favorite buildings. In any case, best of luck. (Can't wait for the game against Michigan State! Go Blue!) <strong>[[User:Earth|__earth]]</strong> <sup>([[User talk:Earth|Talk]])</sup> 13:42, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for the invite to the Wikipedia Club. Unfortunately, I'm no longer in Ann Arbor. I wish that I am still there. So, I can't be at your meeting in the Chemistry building, which by the way, is one of my favorite buildings. In any case, best of luck. (Can't wait for the game against Michigan State! Go Blue!) <strong>[[User:Earth|__earth]]</strong> <sup>([[User talk:Earth|Talk]])</sup> 13:42, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
:Hiya! No problem at all! I actually won't be able to attend the meetup myself, although I might be able to come late. Cheers mate, [[User:Arbitrarily0|<span style='color:black'><b><u><i><big>A</big>rbitrarily<big>0</big></i></u></b></span>]]&nbsp;<sup><b>([[User talk:Arbitrarily0|<span style="font-variant: small-caps; color:#FF4500;">talk</span>]])</b></sup> 15:49, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
:Hiya! No problem at all! I actually won't be able to attend the meetup myself, although I might be able to come late. Cheers mate, [[User:Arbitrarily0|<span style='color:black'><b><u><i><big>A</big>rbitrarily<big>0</big></i></u></b></span>]]&nbsp;<sup><b>([[User talk:Arbitrarily0|<span style="font-variant: small-caps; color:#FF4500;">talk</span>]])</b></sup> 15:49, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
:Hey guys -- yeah the meet up sounds like a great idea! Unfortunately, I am also an alumni that has moved on to other things far far away from Ann Arbor... I am relatively close by (5 hour drive) at the moment as I am doing some graduate work at Purdue. However, I have students that I have to teach on the day of the 'meet'. Maybe next time? [[User:Katanada|Katanada]] ([[User talk:Katanada|talk]]) 03:46, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
Hey guys -- yeah the meet up sounds like a great idea! Unfortunately, I am also an alumni that has moved on to other things far far away from Ann Arbor... I am relatively close by (5 hour drive) at the moment as I am doing some graduate work at Purdue. However, I have students that I have to teach on the day of the 'meet'. Maybe next time? [[User:Katanada|Katanada]] ([[User talk:Katanada|talk]]) 03:46, 12 October 2010 (UTC)


== An update from [[Wikipedia:Adopt-a-User|adopt a user]] ==
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Hi and thanks!

Arbitrarily0 has been made a member of the Order of the Mop,
for their work as an admin and is entitled to display
this award for being such a great admin,

Kind regards and happy editing,
Fridae'§Doom | Spare your time? 23:22, 18 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Thanks for your tireless work on my user page. Fridae'§Doom | Spare your time? 23:22, 18 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Have a nice day and thanks again. Fridae'§Doom | Spare your time? 23:22, 18 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Aw cool! :) You're welcome and thank you, Fridae! Take great care, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 02:56, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome. I'm starting some article tagging and I want to operate a bot that runs on AWB for tagging articles with no refs etc. with the relevant tag, I was wondering if you could help me. Fridae'§Doom | Spare your time? 04:40, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting! I'd start by asking around (maybe at Wikipedia talk:Bots/Requests for approval) to see if this type of bot would A) work with AWB, and B) if the article tagging en masse would be wanted/approved. I don't know the answer to either of those questions offhand unfortunately, but it shouldn't be too hard to find out. Keep me posted, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 14:31, 20 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ok thanks, oh um if you want a userbox for the Order of the Mop you can get it here. Have a nice day and thanks again. Fridae'§Doom | Spare your time? 22:00, 20 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent! Take great care Fridae! :) Arbitrarily0 (talk) 21:57, 22 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You too! I just adopted a user MJ94 I was wondering if you could help me out here since this is my first adoptee. Ғяіᴅaз'§Đøøм | Spare your time? 04:14, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'd be happy to help. Let me know what I can do. Cheers, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 13:37, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well on his talk page I might have given him a bit too much information, I told him to create a new article by going to the Things you can do box on my userpage and creating an article which appeals to his interests. It was quite a big reply on his talk page. COuld you give me some advice? Thanks, Ғяіᴅaз'§Đøøм | Spare your time? 23:45, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hiya, not to be a royal pain but with my userpage the boxes aren't all in the correct alignment, the licensing and committed identity boxes are aligned correct the ones above and the boxes below the main section are squashed to the left a bit, could you fix that perhaps, since I've been tweaking it and using the preview button but none of what I do seems to work. Thanks! Ғяіᴅaз'§Đøøм | Spare your time? 10:56, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Intersting, I finally got a chance to look at this today, but I'm not quite seeing what you're referring to. I wonder if my screen isn't large enough to allow the boxes to float around. All of the boxes look fine for me, which ones are not centered for you? Arbitrarily0 (talk) 12:45, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The boxes on the right, they aren't all aligned properly as with the long boxes. It's not the centre alignment it's the problem with the length of the boxes. Ғяіᴅaз'§Đøøм | Spare your time? 23:10, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Here's a screenie of what it looks like. Ғяіᴅaз'§Đøøм | Tea and biscuits? 04:38, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ah now I see what you mean! I assumed you were using Firefox to view it (which in Firefox everything is aligned perfectly). But no worries,  Done - see changes - now it works in Internet Explorer as well. =) Cheers, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 13:00, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For your hard work in fixing up my userpage, I award you this barnstar. Ғяіᴅaз'§Đøøм | Tea and biscuits? 21:56, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Woops, forgot to thumb the images, my bad. Thanks again Arbitrarily! Ғяіᴅaз'§Đøøм | Tea and biscuits? 21:56, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Anytime Fridae. Take care, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 02:52, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You too Arbitrarily, next time I'll thumb my screenshots ;) Ғяіᴅaз'§Đøøм | Tea and biscuits? 09:09, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Heehee, nah don't worry about the thumbing, 'twas an easy fix. :) Cheers, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 11:03, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Righto! I just thought that it was annoying for you since your talk page gets stretched. Ғяіᴅaз'§Đøøм | Tea and biscuits? 23:25, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, no worries, I've seen it all. :) Cheers, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 13:07, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oh ok, with the whole adoption program I think my adoptee has enough experience, he seems to be pretty independent and confident. Should I ask if he still requires adoption or not? Regards, Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм | Champagne? 02:09, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I was wondering, sorry to be a pest, but could you do the same thing to the top 2 boxes on my userpage as you did with the bottom boxes? I'm sorry for not asking before. Regards, Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм | Champagne? 02:19, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I understand you're busy but if you can could you take a look at my request? I don't mean to be a pest but I almost destroyed my userpage trying to merge the boxes together like you did with my attribution. Simply copying and pasting the lower code to the top didn't work :S Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм | Champagne? 02:00, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oh wow my mistake! I wholly forgot about this. I'll take a look at everything first thing in the morning (EDST). So sorry, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 02:55, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Intersting, I can't seem to find the issue again. Do you think you could make as screenshot of what you're seeing? Which are the 'top two boxes'? Arbitrarily0 (talk) 14:21, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ok will do. I'll thumb it this time :) Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм | Champagne? 06:11, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Done, and I thumbed it this time! Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм | Champagne? 06:18, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I think I see what you're saying: you want those two boxes to be connected but with a green border in between, correct? Arbitrarily0 (talk) 19:17, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes that is absolutely correct No rush on the request. Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм | Champagne? 05:22, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I just spent a lot of time on it and I still could not get it to work out perfectly. It has something to do with the "colspan"/"rowspan"s. It's more like what you want now, but I can't get the empty space between the boxes to go away. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 17:07, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ok thanks Arbitrarily, no worries take your time I can wait! :) Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм | Champagne? 00:06, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ok I managed to fix it, now the top's just a bit thicker, I went to Phaedriel's userpage and clicked the links of userpages she designed, User:Ajcfreak just managed to have the design I wanted :) problem is he/she has that thicker green-space at the top. Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм | Champagne? 04:20, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just a friendly poke, was wondering if you know how to fix the thick green-space at the top. Thanks Arb! Regards, —Ғяіᴆaз'§ĐøøмChampagne?06:36, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I looked at this for about a half hour and I still could not figure out what is causing that. I'm not sure what to tell you, it looks like your userpage has finally beaten me! X) I suppose you could try copying the code from mine? I'm not sure if that would do any good though. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 17:30, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah it does :S If only Phaedriel wasn't away, it's her design so she'd know how to fix it. I can't ask Rlevse, he's far too busy to worry about one person's userpage. I don't know who to ask :S —Ғяіᴆaз'§ĐøøмChampagne? 20:42, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've given up trying to fix my user page, it's causing me to rip my hair out (metaphorically anyway). I think I'll try and enlist the help of others. Thanks for your hard work Arb, much appreciated. Regards, —Ғяіᴆaз'§ĐøøмChampagne? 23:45, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Heehee, sorry I wasn't more of a help. Happy editing and see you around! Arbitrarily0 (talk) 02:44, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You were of great help :) take care! Regards, —Ғяіᴆaз'§ĐøøмChampagne?6:15pm 08:15, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
With the lack of active admin coaches and those who aren't full I was wondering if you would consider being my coach? I've contacted numerous admins and they've all been inactive for some time now. If not that's fine I thought I'd ask. Regards, —Ғяіᴆaз'§ĐøøмChampagne?8:36pm 10:36, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Fridae! Thanks for asking but unfortunately I must decline. I think you will find that experience is the best coach, but keep asking around! I'm sure there's someone who'd be willing. My apologies, sorry to turn you down like this. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 02:18, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's alright. Thanks anyway. Regards, —Ғяіᴆaз'§ĐøøмChampagne? • 5:42pm • 06:42, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Arbitrarily, I've got a question, how would I do a wiki-wide find and replace on AWB? I followed the instructions on the manual but it did nothing. —Ғяіᴆaз'§ĐøøмChampagne? • 6:57pm • 07:57, 8 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi! Are these the instructions you used? I've used this function at simple.wiktionary and it seemed to work fine. Just enter the source code to 'find' and then the source code to 'replace' it with in the respective entry fields. After that you just start running AutoWikiBrowser as normal. Let me know how it goes. Also, I'm not sure that AutoWikiBrowser will be able to load put every single page in the queue, since there's so many. It would certainly take an excruciating amount of time to run. :) Hmmm. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 14:20, 8 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
O.o I can't believe I missed that, also does running a bot on AWB require much programming knowledge? I'm considering making one. Regards, —Ғяіᴆaз'§ĐøøмChampagne? • 5:21pm • 06:21, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Fetchcomms fixed my userpage :) Thanks again for all the help you've given me :) Regards, —Ғяіᴆaз'§ĐøøмChampagne? • 8:43pm • 09:43, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations! No problem! As far as AWB bots, they require no programming experience that I know of - just a familiarity with AWB. Cheers, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 12:00, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks :) Ok then, I'll get a BRFA for my bot account. Thanks again. Regards, —Ғяіᴆaз'§ĐøøмChampagne? • 12:50pm • 01:50, 11 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You've been loved by Fridae'sDoom

Hey there! Fridae'sDoom has loved you by placing a heart icon in the top-right corner of your userpage. Don't worry, it's not vandalism, but simply a small way to spread the WikiLove. If you don't really like it, feel free to revert it and make it go away, and no hard feelings; after all, it's just a small token of appreciation. If you like it, just add your name here, but again, there's no need to feel upset if you don't. Love and best wishes, Ғяіᴅaз'§Đøøм | Tea and biscuits? 09:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks for being such a great help to me :) Ғяіᴅaз'§Đøøм | Tea and biscuits? 09:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Heehee! You're welcome Fridae, my pleasure! Best regards, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 13:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Take care my friend! Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм | Champagne? 07:44, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Arbitrarily0Bot - Wikiproject banner tagging request

Hello Arbitrarily0! I just created a new task force dedicated to Latin American music. I was wondering if your bot can tag in every talk page listed in Category:Latin music along within the subcategories and articles. The main wikiproject is for the task force Wikipedia:WikiProject Latin America with the banner in it. Thanks Magiciandude (talk) 00:36, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Doing... tagging has begun, starting with category talk pages. Could take a day or three to complete. Cheers, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 02:52, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Whoops, I'm sorry, I forgot to mention about the banner for the Latin music task force! I'm so sorry! >_< Magiciandude (talk) 04:18, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Alright. No worries, I'll try to add the pages to the task force in the second round. I'll keep you posted, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 11:02, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Here is the banner for the task force: {{WikiProject Latin America|class=|importance=|music=yes}}. Thanks! Magiciandude (talk) 19:47, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Now, why would your bot be tagging as "Latin" an anglophone singer (primarily to anglophones in the US) of the English-language Trinidadian genre of calypso? -- Hoary (talk) 13:38, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

False positives are always an issue, but wasn't this singer born in Latin America? It looks like he was tagged because he was categorized under Category:Trinidad and Tobago musicians. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 13:45, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No, it's because of their membership in Calypsonians. (Category:Calypsonians <- Category:Calypso <- Category:Caribbean_music_genres <- Category:Latin_American_styles_of_music <- Category:Latin_music) This is one of the reasons I always ask for a complete list of categories, rather than recursing a "top level" category. For example, is Category:Indoor arenas in Honduras within the scope of Latin music? It's in the tree. –xenotalk 13:56, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The first round of banner taggings is only for WikiProject Latin America, meaning Category:Indoor arenas in Honduras is okay (but I still have to have the bot go through all of the pages again to add the music task force). I figured that since I was already tagging for WikiProject Latin America, I'd step up the recursion to level 4 (but only use 2 or maybe 3 recursions for the addition of the music task force to be safe). Arbitrarily0 (talk) 17:44, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Another concern is that you are placing the banner above a WPBiography banner for a living person (e.g.). The WPBio banner should receive "top billing" when living=yes. Future releases of the Plugin should take care of this, but for now it should be addressed via custom find & replace. –xenotalk 14:02, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Xeno, I should be able to address this at the same time I add the task force to the project banner. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 17:44, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have the proper code at home but it's something like (regex, singleline)
Find:
\{\{WikiProject Latin America(.*?)\}\}
(.*?)\{\{WPBiography(.*?)\}\}

Replace:
$2{{WPBiography$3}}
{{WikiProject Latin America$1}}
add seasoning to taste. –xenotalk 17:48, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ooo yay! Thanks a bunch!! Arbitrarily0 (talk) 18:53, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, one more thing. If you haven't already restarted the bot to include music task force banner, could you also add have bot include Portal:Latin America music? EDIT: Disregard what I said. Tagging the music task force automatically includes the portal. Magiciandude (talk) 04:02, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Alright cool, I should be able to start this soon. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 13:08, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
 Doing... It shouldn't take too long this time. Cheers, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 13:22, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
 Done - 2791 page tagged under the Latin American music task force. Cheers, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 19:27, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much for your help! :) Magiciandude (talk) 22:41, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No problemo! :) Arbitrarily0 (talk) 04:00, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kickapoo Joy Juice props

Just wanted to post a comment here about your work on the Kickapoo Joy Juice article. Good work! I've started/expanded several articles about more obscure soft drinks and was considering starting an article on Kickapoo Joy Juice but never got a good "feel" as to how I should go about it. I'm glad (in this case) that my inaction prevailed, as your work on the subject is quite excellent. Regards, Bumm13 (talk) 03:51, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wow! Thanks Bumm! I really appreciate your kind words! Best regards mate, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 13:10, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Adopt Me?

:) BlackImperial (talk) 22:40, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be happy to adopt you. Let me know where you'd like to start or any questions that you may have. Consider adding yourself to my list. Hope to see you around, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 03:59, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Cryptozoology needs a bot to auto tag articles within our scope of interest. If you could fulfill that task that would be great!--Gniniv (talk) 05:14, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I can certainly help. All I need to start is a list of categories that contain pages for tagging. Let me know, cheers! Arbitrarily0 (talk) 11:45, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Michigan Stadium image

Hey, just a quick question about your revision to Michigan Stadium... is there any reason that the better quality picture has to be the one used in the infobox? The picture I put in the infobox was only intended as a placeholder, because the old image was no longer representative of how the stadium looked. -- MichiganCharms (talk) 23:42, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ohh! My mistake, now I see what your reasoning was! How's this file for the infobox? Arbitrarily0 (talk) 00:43, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That works a lot better. Go for it! -- MichiganCharms (talk) 02:31, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Super! I've updated the image, cheers! Arbitrarily0 (talk) 03:03, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You broke the banner shell

Hi there, this edit broke the banner shell template, causing the article to appear to be not in any projects. I think the problem was that it moved the BLP=yes to the end, not between the template name and the 1= for the other banners. Can you check other edits into a bannershell to see if this was a one off error, or was it repeated elsewhere. Thanks, The-Pope (talk) 14:52, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The reason it broke was because it moved the unnamed parameter value "blp" to the end. It thus became the new reigning value for 1=, whereas it was previously overwritten by the explicit 1= call that came later. The template was bad since this non-bot edit. –xenotalk 15:58, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for explaining that. Haven't fully got my head around that template yet! The-Pope (talk) 06:30, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am your father

Confused, see here. –xenotalk 15:09, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks xeno, I'll keep an eye on it now. Cheers, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 04:14, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry but I still can't seem to grasp your reasoning for doing the two-step shuffle here. Now Darth Vader has Anakin Skywalker's history and talk page archives and vice-versa? –xenotalk 16:55, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't blame you, there's admittedly no reasoning to grasp. :) I just figured a flip-flop would be preferable to storing the old histories in extra subpages. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 19:15, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(de-dent) - so was this fixed? - jc37 05:43, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No... I think it should probably just be swapped back ... I was going to do it yesterday until I saw that there's an "unmerge" discussion going on! But no need to wait. –xenotalk 12:48, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for this. Has the swap been causing problems? Arbitrarily0 (talk) 17:08, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's just made a mess of histories where none was required. I still don't understand why it was done in the first place, nor do I understand "extra subpages" ? The history could've just been kept at the redirect. –xenotalk 17:11, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Aren't the histories all fully intact? Both Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader had page histories before the move, so in order to keep the revision history of Anakin Skywalker at its new location, the old Darth Vader would have to be moved to a new location (I chose Anakin Skywalker to be that location, rather than a subpage of Talk:Darth Vader). Just redirecting Anakin Skywalker would have likened to a copy-paste move, since the article currently titled Darth Vader is made from the old page history of Anakin Skywalker. It's almost funny how terribly confusing this is to talk about. :) Arbitrarily0 (talk) 17:21, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
They're fully intact - at the wrong locations. The old revisions of Darth Vader should show old versions of the article entitled Darth Vader. The old revisions of Anakin Skywalker should show the old versions of the former article entitled Anakin Skywalker, since merged to Darth Vader. The attribution issues could have been easily overcome by using proper edit summaries and the {{mergedfrom}} and {{mergedto}} templates, without unnecessary moving to-and-fro. –xenotalk 17:26, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I guess my thinking was that it'd be preferable to have the history of article 'x' located at article 'x', even though the article used to be called article 'y'. The alternative, as you said, is to have the history of article 'x' located at article 'y', just because that's what it was originally called. Is one way more correct? Either way seems fine to me, whatever you see as most fit is best. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 17:35, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's more like "article xy has the history of article y" and "redirect y has the history of article x". –xenotalk 17:37, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You mean that (x2+2y)logxy is greater than ±∑[y-x2]? ;) But wasn't xy the result of a merge of 'x' into 'y'? Seriously though, whatever you think best is fine with me. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 18:00, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You're going to make me disappear in a puff of logic. –xenotalk 18:02, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
>POOF!< Where am I?
lol, you two make me laugh : )
Anyway, while I see the point, to reduce the confusion, I think going with what xeno suggested might be more user friendly in the future.
I'd do it, but I think he has a much better handle on how to do/undo/redo/whatever this : )
And thanks for my laugh of the day (I'm really going to have to make that talk page template up one of these days : ) - jc37 20:09, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think I've remedied the situation [1] [2]. In future the path of least resistance and confusion would be to redirect the article, cut and paste the talk page onto the new talk page, redirect the talk page, add the merged article's archives to the target's archive box and be sure to use proper attribution-laden edit summaries the whole way. –xenotalk 13:54, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks xeno, I appreciate it. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 19:05, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please Adopt me

Hello, I am working on an Eglish class project. Could you help me to get started with Wikipedia? I just need some help on how to use it. If you agree, I will ask you when I need to know something. I will also show you mi articles to get your feed back. Thank You Jorge —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jsoto89 (talkcontribs) 19:23, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good to me! Stop by anytime! Arbitrarily0 (talk) 19:36, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can you adopt me?

Please adopt me Hi I am trying to edit an article in Wikipedia Spanish, but I want to avoid deletion of my edits through consensus in the discution page, but a user blocked the pageBredoteauU2 (talk) 00:48, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Of course! I'd be happy to! What exactly can I do for you? Arbitrarily0 (talk) 17:11, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I want to edit this page but a librarian of wikipedia has it blocked, with the excuse of vandalism, and he refuse to unblock the page, because he does not wants to accept references that talk about prizes awarded to Leopoldo Lopez, but he accepts a link where they talk in a negative way of Leopoldo Lopez, so if we are going to be neutral, we cannot praise the living character but also we cannot talk bad things about the character, and he blocked the page even when we had a discussion about it, the page is about Leopoldo Lopez BTW, i made a mistake of 3RR with this article, but mainly because my lack of experience in wikipedia Thanks for the help ThanksBredoteauU2 (talk) 00:32, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just to clarify, you are talking about the Leopoldo López article? Arbitrarily0 (talk) 19:04, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah I'm talking about the leopoldo lopez article in Spanish BredoteauU2 (talk) 03:25, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As in this one then? Sorry for the confusion, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 03:31, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes that one BredoteauU2 (talk) 04:05, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, since I don't speak Spanish or have experience on the Spanish Wikipedia, I don't know of anything I can do. The only thing I can suggest is try talking to this user, and get third-party mediators involved if necessary. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 17:27, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Undiscussed Move

Can you please undo this move as it wasn't even discussed. There wasn't even any consensus? Ohlly (talk) 14:47, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I see you have contacted Vegaswikian (talk · contribs), the administrator who closed the discussion, about this. He/she will be able to answer your questions, but I'll keep an eye on the discussion. Cheers, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 17:10, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Are page moves allowed if there were no evidence or voting provided? That should be moved back to Jessica Jung. I suggest you speak to the mover. Ohlly (talk) 16:20, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, pages can be moved without !voting, even if a discussion was opened (see Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions). That said, you are most welcome to open up a requested move discussion yourself in support of moving the page back. Let me know if you have any questions, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 17:24, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

To Mentor, or to be mentored... that is the question...

Hi Arbitrarily0, I am curious at what point one should consider themselves qualified for being a mentor via the "Adopt..." program. My strong points are heavy work (compared to my edit count) in anti-vandalism, a decent understanding of how each rule and guideline applies, a willingness to assume good faith and an ability to copy-edit or help with other wording issues on proposed article inclusions (a lot of experience with that on the Star Trek Phase 2 project). My weaknesses are, I cannot write an article without lots of effort and time, have limited to zero article creation experience and sometimes tend to ramble. OTOH, I was going to put myself back up for adoption, but that was primarily to have someone to discuss perspectives on and ask advice. I'm realizing though, that I've already accumulated a decent sized list of experienced editors who are always willing to offer perspectives, review my actions or interpretations and so on - so I suspect a mentorship may not be what I need.

Anyway, I'd be interested in your opinion on what you think is a good balance or qualifications for adopting other users, as well as how far away from such criteria I may (or may not) be. Best, RobertMfromLI User Talk/Contribs 18:30, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) I think you could definitely start adopting new users. I think I was participating in the adoption program as an adopter after 3-4 months of editing –xenotalk 18:39, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
LoL, funny thing: it was a toss up between asking you or Arbitrarily (Fastily was on the list, but alas, he has retired). Thanks much for the feedback. :-) RobertMfromLI User Talk/Contribs 18:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Heh. To be honest, I've been thinking about taking my name off the list - but I'm waiting for another adopter with the name "X" to hang out a shingle. –xenotalk 19:39, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks xeno! :) Sorry for the delay Robert, hope things work out. Let me know how it goes, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 19:03, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Will do! Two offers out, will see what happens. :-) Thanks, both of you. ROBERTMFROMLI TALK/CNTRB 03:30, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Great! Good luck! Cheers, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 17:21, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome!

Hi Arbitrarily0, thanks for joining WP:WikiProject Screencast! Very glad to see you're interested. This project is a bit unusual -- we're trying to kick it off by producing about 7–10 screencasts over the weekend of Sept. 25, making a concerted effort to establish a project that will be lasting and productive. If you're really interested in producing screencasts, there should be plenty to do in the next week or so -- I hope you'll jump right in! Feel free to contribute anywhere on the WikiProject pages. -Pete (talk) 14:02, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the warm welcome Pete, I'll see what I can do! Arbitrarily0 (talk) 02:43, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Adoption and more...

Hi again Arbitrarily, I've gotten two adoptees (just spent a while working with one of them, which went great, and he's got his first article (started from a stub) going for another GA review). Anyway, I wrote this which I hope you will review and provide feedback on. Best (and thanks again), ROBERTMFROMLI TALK/CNTRB 03:08, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Robert! Congratulations on your adoption successes! I read over your adoption page, and really however you wish to work it is up to you. My only concern would be that you don't want to try to scare editors away with too many rules. As long as you make it clear that adoptees should not be afraid to make mistakes (mistakes, if fact, should be encouraged, because this is where the most learning comes from), then you will be good to go. Cheers, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 11:27, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent suggestions! On to it soon as I get a work break. Thanks. -Rob / ROBERTMFROMLI TALK/CNTRB 17:35, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No problem! Stop by anytime, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 17:51, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ping

I've (finally) finished the first draft for Urban contemporary gospel (1980s to present). Based on past experience, I expect someone to panic about the Wikipedia article that is actually about traditional black gospel music (1920s to 1960s) being called traditional black gospel. If you'd watchlist all the relevant pages, I'd appreciate it. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:08, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Done - watchlisted. Cheers, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 23:57, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ANI: AJona1992 (request for help)

Hi Arbitrarily0, We're hoping to close AJona1992's ANI (happened before I became his mentor, and part of the reason why I became it), but the terms proposed go above normal violation repercussions. I've been asked to be able to ensure there are admins willing to act upon the sanctions requested if such a need comes up (elevated warnings, defined block periods, and so on). The ANI is here: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:AJona1992. I will be asking 2 other admins as well, to satisfy the request/concerns of one of the other ANI participants. Thanks again, Robert / ROBERTMFROMLI TALK/CNTRB 03:27, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Robert. It looks like I missed the meat of the discussion, but I will say I certainly agree with Moonriddengirl. I'll keep an eye on the discussion, cheers! Arbitrarily0 (talk) 18:31, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree too (which I've made clear to him) and opted for Xeno's and Soundvision1's stricter sanctions - but I figured it best if I left the sanctions up to others to determine. :-) Thanks! Robert ROBERTMFROMLI TALK/CNTRB 20:01, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WHY DID YOU DELETE THE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiaoouba_Prophecy FILE? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.200.167 (talk) 23:07, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thiaoouba Prophecy was deleted because of a consensus to do so at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thiaoouba Prophecy. Let me know of anything I can clarify or help you out with. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 18:35, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Adopt-a-user reminder

Hello, I have completed a general cleanup of the adopter information page for the adopt-a-user project, located here. During my cleanup, I have removed several inactive and retired users. In order to provide interested adoptees with an easy location to find adopters, it is essential that the page be up-to-date with the latest information possible. Thus:

  • If you are no longer interested in being an adopter, please remove yourself from the list.
  • If you are still interested, please check the list to see if any information needs to be updated or added - especially your availability. Thank you.
  • You are receiving this message because you are listed as an adopter here.

Delivered by MessageDeliveryBot on behalf of Netalarm (talk) at 03:31, 23 September 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Thanks Netalarm, I have updated my listing. Cheers, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 18:39, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hey there, would you mind adopting User:Grekham? I was planning on adopting him myself, but I realized that it would be impossible for me to run adopter-adoptee matching while I had my own adoptee too. Please reply as soon as possible, thanks! Netalarmtalk 20:52, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, that's perfectly fine. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 21:13, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've notified the user. You may want to also message the user and introduce yourself :P. *Scurries away to match more pairs* Netalarmtalk 04:44, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
 Done - thanks! Arbitrarily0 (talk) 05:12, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Heads up

Would like your thoughts, on Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Cases_of_unanimous_consensus, as well as on User_talk:Ron_Ritzman#Query. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 02:46, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have commented on both, thanks much for cluing me in! Appreciate it! Arbitrarily0 (talk) 22:06, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I was cleaning up a bit a newly created article, West Branch (literary journal) and moved it to West Branch (journal). When I went to the talk page to tag it for WPJournals, I was alerted that it had recently been deleted. I assumed it had been speedied, but from the log I see it was deleted after AfD. I have not yet tagged it for G4, because to me it looks like this new article might just squeak by our notability requirements. However, I don't really know how to handle this, as it was deleted after an AfD and re-created the same day. I hope that as an admin, you'll know more about this... Happy editing! --Crusio (talk) 13:10, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, considering the sourcing in the article is vastly different from the deleted version, G4 won't apply. Unfortunately the references are all offline, making it more difficult to verify. Feel free to nominate it for deletion if you like - let me know if you have any questions! Arbitrarily0 (talk) 13:56, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Crusio, this newer version is better so lets let it simmer for a while, and maybe we'll get something more worth keeping. Sadads (talk) 14:36, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree as well. Simply put, no prejudice against a speedy renomination if an editor sees fit. Cheers, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 16:13, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I notice you moved Kim Leakhena to Kim Liakena, with the comment "requested move; see Talk:Kim Liakena". However, the only requested move I can see on the Talk page was from Gim Liekena to Kim Leakhena, which I supported and which was done earlier by Vegaswikian. So why the second move? -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:43, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Fixed! I didn't realize that Vegaswikian had already moved the page because he/she forget to close the talk page request. For some reason when I linked to move the page, the name was changed to 'Liakena', which I didn't realize was not 'Leakhena'. 'Tis a lapse of an attention to detail on my part. Thanks for letting me know, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 11:20, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, thanks - yes, I see it hadn't been closed. A good result is that we now have another useful redirect, from Kim Liakena :-) -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 13:27, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed! Heehee yup! :) Cheers mate, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 16:22, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

thanks

Thanks a lot for adopting me!--Grekham (talk) 18:27, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely no problem! Hope to see you around here a lot! :) Arbitrarily0 (talk) 23:48, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That is not the name that was requested, please rename it again using the requested name.--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 03:24, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Done - what is 'guiding' by the way? I had assumed it was a typo. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 04:22, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Guiding is the original term for Girl Scouts, used by most countries outside the US sphere. When they found out girls wanted to be Boy Scouts, they wanted to give it a distinct name. Japan and a few other countries use Scout, the majority use Guide. See WAGGGS for the complete atrocious handle.--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 04:27, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Is one more correct than the other? I also noticed that no pages currently transclude the template (see here), is there another template this one should be merged with? Arbitrarily0 (talk) 04:31, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Neither is more correct, but using both at once is a hassle, and the different naming serves to disambig while we are tooling this template.--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 05:33, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting. Well, sounds fine to me. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 02:24, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

help

I m new,actualy I have try many time to start a page but...very difficult.can you help tadaima2 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tadaima2 (talkcontribs) 21:09, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sure! What have you been working on? I'd be happy to help! Arbitrarily0 (talk) 02:20, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mentoring request

Hello, Matt! My name's Megan and I'm a student at Indiana University in Professor Rubin's class. We'll be working on the new US Public Policy WikiProject this semester and have been asked to find online mentors to help us out as we fumble our way through the next couple of weeks. So when I inevitably come up with my thousands of questions, would you mind if I came to you for some help?  :) I'd be ever so gratefully yours, JaffaJunkie (talk) 20:05, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly! I'll be right here, stop by as frequently as you like. Cheers, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 21:35, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Bubble Wrap (brand)

RlevseTalk 12:04, 7 October 2010 (UTC) [reply]

Thanks Rlevse! Arbitrarily0 (talk) 16:52, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Bubble wrap as wallpaper? Awesome hook :) Jujutacular talk 19:32, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hey thanks Juju! It's great to hear from you! Arbitrarily0 (talk) 20:44, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

UM Wikipedians

I am not a student anymore, just a recent Alumnus. Am I still eligible to attend? —Preceding unsigned comment added by VictorsValiant09 (talkcontribs) 23:25, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You are certainly welcome to attend! I suppose you wouldn't be able to officially 'join' the organization, but your participation/attendance would be hugely appreciated! Arbitrarily0 (talk) 23:57, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And me? A student until 32 years ago. I'm not so much of a writer, but I do enjoy taking photos. I have AA and UofM photos on about 20 pages here. Is that a topic of interest? Parkerdr (talk) 03:44, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see why not! But consider contacting wikipedians@umich.edu to double check. :) Cheers, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 04:54, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, thanks for the invite to the Wikipedia Club. Unfortunately, I'm no longer in Ann Arbor. I wish that I am still there. So, I can't be at your meeting in the Chemistry building, which by the way, is one of my favorite buildings. In any case, best of luck. (Can't wait for the game against Michigan State! Go Blue!) __earth (Talk) 13:42, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hiya! No problem at all! I actually won't be able to attend the meetup myself, although I might be able to come late. Cheers mate, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 15:49, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey guys -- yeah the meet up sounds like a great idea! Unfortunately, I am also an alumni that has moved on to other things far far away from Ann Arbor... I am relatively close by (5 hour drive) at the moment as I am doing some graduate work at Purdue. However, I have students that I have to teach on the day of the 'meet'. Maybe next time? Katanada (talk) 03:46, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

An update from adopt a user

Hi there Arbitrarily0! You may be wondering, what have I done to sound the alarm this time? Nothing. I'm messaging you in regards to the adopt-a-user program, which currently has a backlog of users wishing to be adopted. This doesn't make much sense, as we have a considerable list of users offer adoption, so there shouldn't be any backlog. I've begun to eliminate this backlog myself through a matching program, but I need your help to make it work. Of course, adoptees and adopters don't have to go through there, but I believe it helps eliminate the backlog because someone is actively matching pairs.

On the list of adopters, I have modified the middle column to say "Interests." It's easier working with other users that have similar interests, so if it's not too much to ask, could you add your interests in the middle column? For example, if I was interested in hurricanes, computers, business, and ... reptiles? I would place those in the middle column. Counter-vandalism and the like can also be included (maintenance should be used as the general term). The more interests, the better, since adoptees can learn more about you and choose the one they feel most comfortable working with. The information about when you're most active and other stuff can go into the "Notes" section to the right.

Finally, I've gone around and asked adoptees (and will in the future) to fill in a short survey so adopters can take the initiative and contact users they feel comfortable working with. We all know that most adoptees just place the adopt me template on their user page and leave it - so it's up to us to approach them and offer adoption. So, please take a look at the survey, adopt those that fit your interests, and maybe watchlist it so you can see the interests of adoptees and adopt one that fits your interests in the future.

Once again, thank you for participating in the adopt-a-user program! If you wish to respond to this post, please message me on my talk page.

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