User talk:Jjron

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GOCE barnstar

		The Cleanup Barnstar
		For copy editing 23 articles with a total of 14,230 words (including rollover) during the Guild of Copy Editors' March 2011 Backlog elimination drive. Thanks for all your contributions! SMasters (talk) 05:12, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Cheers. --jjron (talk) 10:09, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Alice Manfield

An image uploaded and edited by you has been promoted to featured picture status Your image, File:Alice Manfield - Guide Alice, Mt Buffalo, c1900-30, SLV.jpg, was nominated on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate an image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Thank you for your contribution! Makeemlighter (talk) 23:02, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• By the way, I wanted to say that it's nice to see you back at FPC, even if it's only a limited-time, "this week only" appearance. Makeemlighter (talk) 07:44, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Thanks. May make some more guest appearances, though I'm kinda enjoying spreading myself around a bit more widely. That being the case I don't expect to be back as a genuine 'regular' in the near future. Cheers, --jjron (talk) 13:17, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Re: Image issue

The image was uploaded from Commons to the English language Wikipedia in preparation for its appearance on the Main page. Cascade protection is able to protect items within a project that are transcluded onto a single page but is unable to perform cross project protection. Thus, a Commons image trancluded to the Main page could be altered by modifying the image on Commons. Creating a local copy of the image prevents this possible form of vandalism. The other means of performing this task is protecting the image on Commons. As the last admin involved with DYK that also had admin privileges on Commons left the project last November, this is currently not a practical option.

DYKUpdateBot deletes the local copy as part of its cleanup activities when the image is taken off the Main page. Thus things should be back to their previous conditions once the 08:00 8 April 2011 (UTC) update is completed. --Allen3 ^talk 14:12, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Discussion here. --jjron (talk) 14:18, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Re: Bolles Bicycle

I have one. Never have been adept at wikipedia. email me thebroadguy@hotmail or give an email address I can correspond with you. Thebroadguy (talk) 17:08, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry. I have absolutely no idea what this is about. --jjron (talk) 10:12, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

you had an early entry on your other page looking for information regarding a bolles brendamour headtube badge. Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2008_March_21#The_Bolles-Brendamour_Company. I have such a bike my uncle bought new in cincinnati in 1938 with newspaper money. i would gladly share a photo if I knew how to get one to you. Else, nevermind. Thebroadguy (talk) 03:25, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Oh, thanks. The name (very!) vaguely rang a bell. However I was answering a question from another user on the Miscellaneous Reference desk, not requesting information myself. It's just the user posting the question never signed their post. It appears the question was asked by an anonymous IP user Special:Contributions/69.92.11.164. (And wow, it's fantastic you've still got such an old bike. Also how on earth did you ever find that post from so long ago?? :) ).

BTW, if you want to upload photos there's a link on the left of the page, under the toolbox category, that says "Upload file". Just click that and follow the instructions. Even better, for photos with no copyright concerns or anything, is to add them to Wikimedia Commons as then they're available to Wiki projects worldwide, not just English Wikipedia. If you want some more advice on this let me know. Cheers, --jjron (talk) 11:15, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Alice Manfield

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. --jjron (talk) 10:12, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Ricky Hunter

Hello! Your submission of Ricky Hunter at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 21:20, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. Replied at DYK. --jjron (talk) 10:45, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Motorized bicycle

Hi Andrew. This edit to Motorized bicycle seems to have botched ref 27. It appeared to be a dead link anyway, so at the moment I've removed it. Thought I'd let you know in case you want to take a look at it again. --jjron (talk) 11:20, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

At first, it appeared that the entire Alberta, Canada site was down, but now it works and I found an updated link. Maybe they were undergoing a major update this morning. Thanks for bringing the problem to my attention. -AndrewDressel (talk) 13:55, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Cool. --jjron (talk) 14:28, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Motorcycle policeman

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Thank you. --jjron (talk) 16:37, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

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I'd like to say 'duh', but I expect this is a 'form message'. Evidently someone has replaced this with what is said to be the first edition hardback cover. While clearly an inferior image, I believe that the preference is to use such editions, so que sera sera, I'm not about to battle over such trivialities. So delete away. --jjron (talk) 13:42, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Ricky Hunter

The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Cheers. --jjron (talk) 12:23, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Well except someone's botched the hook *, but never mind. --jjron (talk) 12:25, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Come to think of it, do mind. A lot of thought, and let me add considerable discussion on the DYK page, went into the exact wording of that hook, and the person who queued it stuffed it up in complete contradiction of the discussion. Not happy. --jjron (talk) 12:50, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Added discussion about botching hooks to Wikipedia talk:Did you know. --jjron (talk) 16:45, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Mt Buffalo and The Horn

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If you're ever in the neighbourhood.....

I'd love someone to take some cool photos of Banksia canei - I figured you might be nearby from the images :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:04, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

OK, will keep a look out (though I tend to pretty average at identifying 'random' specimens in the wild :) ). Looks like, according to the article, it's just getting to the end of the flowering season for this year. Hah, was going to ask if your image in the article was taken in the snow (due to the bg) but then saw it was taken in your garden in Sydney! --jjron (talk) 03:48, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Holy heck, after just reading the article it looks like even botanists have trouble distinguishing this fella in the wild! Will see what I can find, but might need to look out for a cultivated version. --jjron (talk) 04:16, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, my plant stayed alive for seven years (woo hoo!) - I was well chuffed. But the flowers were minute :/ I have more details on locations I will add later today...be great to get a photo of it in the snow. Nah, it's easy to tell. The only thing which will look vaguely like it and anywhere nearby is marginata, which the old flowers remian on the spikes. Also, the leaves of canei are really thick and tough. You'll know it when you see it. I can always ID photos too. Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:18, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Yep, will definitely run any likely possibilities by you first. The article says it's found north of Omeo. Do you know if it's likely to be out along the Omeo Highway, around the Big River say, or out around Benambra? I can get to those areas relatively easily. I want to get out the Wulgulmerang area sometime soonish, but that's rather a bigger trip. --jjron (talk) 04:26, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

I will ferret around for some locations in a bit and add to the article (or here if unencyclopedic :)) Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:42, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Update - just found a bunch of gridreferences which I'll send by email later tonight. Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:52, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Cheers. Hopefully in convenient locations. --jjron (talk) 10:22, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

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Maybe some of these are close..? Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:54, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll look into it. --jjron (talk) 11:09, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

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Per above; delete away. Replaced with an inferior image flogged from Amazon. Is this legit? --jjron (talk) 05:53, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

GoCE

Funny enough, this is my first drive, which means that there will be at least one elephant in the corner. I am shy, so I sneak about everywhere that is quiet.--The copyeditor's corner 14:19, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

No need to continue. I pick out the visible stuff and then I use a script to find the more subtle items.--The copyeditor's corner 15:10, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Missed it?

Not really, if you look at the time stamps you might notice that my post was before that. :¬) Chaosdruid (talk) 11:54, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

diff --jjron (talk) 14:06, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

No, that is an entirely different matter:

• MofM [1], [2] and [3]
• and my replies [4]

The conversation with Diannaa took place much later:

• On Diannaa's [5]
• On MofM [6] - here you can clearly see that my comment is timestamped 03:07 and Diannaa's at 03:10.

Hope this clears it up for you :¬) Chaosdruid (talk) 14:27, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

• Different? Well, no, it's exactly the same issue. But if you think so, whatever, it's hardly worth arguing about. ;) --jjron (talk) 11:01, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

• Oh, unless you're referring to your other conversations about barnstars and chickens, that are different matters, but why would I be worried about them? The issue was checking up Mayhems copyedits for the WP:GOCE, which originated here which was 14 hrs before either yours or Diannaa's comments, as I pointed out above, and which is what I was pointing out on your talkpage. --jjron (talk) 11:08, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Well to be honest, I have no idea why you are worried about any of this lol! nor why you had an issue with anything to do with this - perhaps you can explain why you are taking such an interest, after all it has taken a fair amount of time for me to address your concerns :¬)

To be clear, that was me adding a note to someone as a "welcome to the drive" and catching up (as I had helped him when he set up his page, with scripts and tabs, after first joining). I had seen some conversations with other editors and thought it prudent to make sure that MofM did not fall foul of trying to bite off more than they could chew, nor cause any problems with copyedits like we had last drive with a particular editor.

I did not sign up as a checker until later during that evening's session - [7], just before I posted on Diannaa's page [8] 12 minutes later. Chaosdruid (talk) 11:32, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Ah! I just read your latest message - Unfortunately I open talk pages (in which case I cannot always see the bottom of the page - especially MofM's which has 1.5 pages of stuff before you even get to the posts), hit the + button (add new section), write my bit, preview it and correct any obvious mistakes, save it, read it again then close the page down. I tend not to read other peoples posts so would not have noticed yours on MofM's talk page, nor did I read it later in the day when I was adding the other notes on there as by then the page was full of kittens and chicken pieces. I did read your thread and the post on Diannaa's page, as I spotted MofM's (well his copyeditor moniker) post but it merely said that he could probably do with "some hints" User_talk:Diannaa#May_backlog_drive

Why on earth did you not just say "Are you aware that I told MoFM that his copyedits were dubious some time before yours and Diannaa's conversation?" - to which my reply would have been "No I did not see that, I was offering my help to him as I have interacted with him qutie a bit since he joined and tried to help him along. Unfortunately I did not sign up as a checker until much later that evening and Diannaa was already looking at his work by then (links to diffs)"

Thank goodness we got that sorted out, it was starting to really confuse me lol. AS your post on Diannaa's page was simply that he needed a bit of "pointing in the right direction" I left the note on his page, below all the kittens and chickens saying I would help him if he needed anything - I had only just found out he had joined GOCE. Chaosdruid (talk) 11:59, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

PS I just went and checked the link on my talk page, when I click it it just goes to Diannaa's posts on MofM's page where Diannaa gives the feedback about their edits. AS you can probably now understand, once I clicked on the link (your first post on my talk page) it did not take me to your post - I believe this is because Diannaa used the same header title "Guild of Copy Editors" as you did and it went to the first on the TOC -that is why I started talking about my and Diannaa's conversation. Please check it if you like by going to MofM's talk page. Chaosdruid (talk) 12:04, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Travel Guide tag

Hi

As a matter for your personal pleasure check out this page.

I randomly picked that article for checking and noticed the goings on [9]. When I come across things like that I normally take a section of text, paste it into Google and run a search, the more words the better up to about 15 or so. As a result I got that link as the first on the first page of results [10].

I can see now why someone thought it sounded like a travel guide :¬) Chaosdruid (talk) 03:18, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Reply here. --jjron (talk) 13:40, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Unit cohesion

Good work on the Unit cohesion article. I tagged it for copyedit, and you polished it up. --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:10, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm currently off the 2009 articles for the most part as they're getting pretty obscure and many require a lot of interpretation (almost total rewrites) if you're going to do them properly, so I'm dipping into more recent stuff instead. Have actually done a few interesting articles over the last couple of days as a result, that being one of them. Must say it is giving 'lucky' articles like that one a very quick turnaround time though for the tagging/copyediting process. --jjron (talk) 12:35, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and I know you're not down as a Reviewer, but I thought given you've done so anyway on that article, if you like you could tick it off on my article count. --jjron (talk) 18:37, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

May GOCE drive - Article word counts

Hi, Microsoft Word does not count words in Wikipedia articles correctly, for example in your list World Series Cricket Results contains 720 words of readable prose (not 5435) and Obernewtyn Chronicles 4462 (not 5004). I haven't checked the others but note that text in user boxes, tables and bulleted lists does not count as "readable prose". It's better to use a tool like this: User talk:Dr_pda/prosesize. If you have any problems setting it up let me know and I'll fix it for you. Best, ► Philg88 ◄ ^talk 21:35, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Replied here directing user to the FAQ. --jjron (talk) 02:54, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

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and could you check The Velvet Underground discography? Thank you.--♫Greatorangepumpkin♫T 17:49, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Black Rhinoceros

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Thanks; (modified to indicate edit). --jjron (talk) 12:47, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Arteriovenous oxygen difference

The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Kingdom of Galicia

Just passing by to say hello and thank you for your efforts. --Froaringus (talk) 17:09, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

GOCE drive update

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Terry (Fawlty Towers)

This page has now been nominated for deletion; please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Terry (Fawlty Towers). ╟─TreasuryTag►belonger─╢ 09:59, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. --jjron (talk) 12:52, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Grand Piano Diagram

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Also, see my note at the nomination. Makeemlighter (talk) 06:38, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Cheers. --jjron (talk) 10:31, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh, BTW, poetic justice anyway, given my strident opposition to featuring sets. :) --jjron (talk) 10:32, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

SiSiC stub

Hello Jjron, thanks for working a little on that stub. I am not familiar enough with standard books in English about ceramics. Any reasonable book would be good enough as reference for the three types of silicon carbide, namely the one produced by the Acheson process mentioned in the main article, the one produced by sintering SiC powder (SSiC) and the one from chemical reaction of carbon with silicon (SiSiC). To get a better situation and reduce the amount of stubs, it probably makes sense to integrate these point in a chapter of the SiC article named types of silicon carbide or so, where other types could be included: SiC drived by chemical vapour deposition, and SiC derived by pyrolysis of carbo-silane resins. What do you think? --Leumar01 (talk) 12:52, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Reply here; sorry I can't be of much more help there. --jjron (talk) 13:38, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

WikiThanks

Thanks for your effort on the article Airbus A330. There are some points that I would like to iron out with you. The tag {{Importance-section|date=May 2011}} just under "Entry into service", I think, could be removed because, there are no other appropriate sections for the reference about ETOPS. This is because the validation for ETOPS certification takes place just after entry into service. It wouldn't fit under "Further development" because the section header implies that another variant or major development of the A330 was being planned altogether, not the ETOPS itself. There is also a tag at "and then to 180 minutes after 50,000 flight hours.[45][clarification needed]" What exactly would you like me to do? Same with "instead of a four-engine aircraft proposed by the West Germans,[clarification needed]". I've since removed the latter tag, because your explanation "What West Germans?" is to vague. Are you wondering why it's West Germans, instead of "Germans"? Well, there wasn't a "Germany" during the Cold War; only "West Germany" and "East Germany". Please feel free to revert if deemed neccesary. If you have any other queries, please address them on the talk page. Thanks very much for your valuable effort. The article is being planned for FA status, so any thoughts and opinions are very much welcomed. After the copyedit, could you have a look at the article's A-class nomination? The link to the page can be found on the article's talk page.
I can be found at [11]. Sp33dyphil ^{Ready • to • Rumble} 10:06, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Reply here. --jjron (talk) 04:39, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

750 million pounds was requested for the machinery and other jobs required for the construction of the wings. The 7 and 5 million pounds were spent on the new sites and expansion. Do I need to provide a note in the article for this? Also, I'll remove the "confusing" tag, since explanations had been provided. Sp33dyphil ^{Ready • to • Rumble} 06:34, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Is the copy-edit on-going? Sp33dyphil ^{Ready • to • Rumble} 10:28, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

I thought so. Thank you so much! Sp33dyphil ^{Ready • to • Rumble} 22:13, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Refs at Buddhism

Thanks for your help. The Buddhism article is definitely unwieldy in several respects. Just a heads-up that you may be stepping into a bit of a wasps' nest. See the talk page for background if you care – I think most of the relevant discussion, in this case, is still on the main talk page, though discussion of the population figures and reliable references about them has been a recurrent theme in the archives. My recent edit had the side effect of reverting your changes, but feel free to weigh in further. /ninly_(talk) 16:33, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Reply here; just passing by. --jjron (talk) 16:45, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Sign-off

Hi

Comments moved from the drive page:

Consider alphabetising the order of countries, Radio section should be incorporated as lvl 3 into US section Chaosdruid (talk) 19:10, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, article has been totally re-trashed since the copyedit and is full of thousands of words of garbage that I removed; if people want to discount this for that reason, then do so. It's this type of thing that makes you wonder why you bother! FWIW I've re-reverted the changes (which were done by an anon IP), but it may get done again. --jjron (talk) 15:37, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Apologies, I had not noticed that it had already been trashed. I have moved my comments and your reply to here to prevent cluttering the drive page and to strike my comments.

It may be that there is a valid case for separating to a "List of sign-off broadcasts by country" article, created from the moved material, and an AfD put on it for comment and possible deletion. This might prevent the re-addition of the material and move any discussion to the AfD process. What do you think?

Apologies once again, I only checked the diffs, the sections were in yellow rather than green and so appeared to still be in there. Chaosdruid (talk) 16:09, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, maybe, but I put a discussion on the talkpage about it where I suggested the possibility of creating a list, but I don't believe it was responded to (not last time I looked). Another GOCE editor agreed the article needed a massive purge though. The IP just re-added the junk without response, or even an edit summary, and deleted the copyedited (basically rewritten) content in the process; I suspect creating a list would meet with the same result, except then we'd have a useless list and a useless article!

I had also checked the edit history before doing anything, but there were no regular contributors to seek for feedback; from memory the most significant editors had ten or less edits, most of them hadn't touched it for about three years, and generally they were 'in and out' in a few days.

Regardless, there are so many problems with that list it really doesn't belong on WP. Unsourced, unencyclopaedic, original research, with few dates (things like station sign-offs tend to change relatively regularly), and probably at least half of it was close to unintelligible. Then by having the list, the next problem becomes that it's so incomplete, that it's not funny. Not sure where there's a win anywhere in there. As I said before though, if it being reverted means it's not counted for the drive, then so be it. --jjron (talk) 13:40, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

GOCE drive newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors May 2011 backlog elimination drive report Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors May 2011 Backlog elimination drive. Thank you for participating! Participation GOCE May 2011 backlog elimination drive progress graphs There were 63 signups for the drive; of these, 45 participated. Although we did not award a bonus for articles from the Requests page this drive, we are not experiencing lengthy delays in getting the articles processed. Many thanks to editors who have been helping out at the Requests page and by copy editing articles from the backlog. Progress report During the month of May we reduced the backlog by approximately 10%, and made remarkable progress on eliminating articles tagged from 2009. There are now only 15 articles left, down from the 415 that were present when the drive started. Since our backlog drives began in May 2010 with 8,323 articles, we have cleared more than 54% of the backlog. A complete list of results and barnstars awarded can be found here. Barnstars will be distributed over the next week. If you enjoyed participating in our event, you may also like to join the Wikification drives, which are held on alternate months to our drives. Their June drive has started. Coodinator election The six-month term for our first tranche of Guild coordinators will be expiring at the end of June. We will be accepting nominations for the second tranche of coordinators, who will also serve a six-month term. Nominations will open starting on June 5. For complete information, please have a look at the election page. Please feel free to contact any coordinator if you have any questions or need assistance. Your project coordinators are S Masters (talk), Diannaa (Talk), Tea with toast (Talk), Chaosdruid (talk), and Torchiest (talk).

Sent on behalf of the Guild of Copy Editors using AWB on 08:23, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

GOCE awards May 2011 drive

		The 10k Copy Edit Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to jjron for editing at least one article of 10,000 words or more during the Guild of Copy Editors' May 2011 backlog elimination drive. Your efforts are appreciated! – Chaosdruid (talk) 13:09, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

		The Order of the Superior Scribe of Wikipedia
		This Barnstar is awarded to jjron for copy edits totalling over 80,000 words (including rollover words) during the GOCE May copy edit drive. Thank you for your hard work! Chaosdruid (talk) 13:09, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

		Leaderboard Award—Article Count—3rd Place
		This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to jjron for copy editing a total of 62 articles during the Guild of Copy Editors' May 2011 backlog elimination drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions. – Chaosdruid (talk) 13:09, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

		Leaderboard Award—Word Count—4th Place
		This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to jjron for copy editing a total of 86,334 words during the Guild of Copy Editors' May 2011 backlog elimination drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions. – Chaosdruid (talk) 13:09, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

		Leaderboard Award—5K Articles—2nd Place
		This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to jjron for copy editing a total of 11 articles of 5,000 words or more during the Guild of Copy Editors' May 2011 backlog elimination drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions. – Chaosdruid (talk) 13:09, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Cheers. --jjron (talk) 13:45, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Apologies as I copied your username rather than your signature, hence the upper-case first J. Chaosdruid (talk) 14:30, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

No worries. Tis an easy fix. --jjron (talk) 10:58, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Salt Farmers - Pak Thale.jpg 2

An image edited by you has been promoted to featured picture status Your image, File:Salt Farmers - Pak Thale-edit1.jpg, was nominated on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate an image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Thank you for your contribution! Makeemlighter (talk) 08:23, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. --jjron (talk) 08:26, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

GOCE elections

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors Elections are currently underway for our Guild coordinators. The voting period will run for 14 days and ends on June 30, 23:59 UTC. All GOCE members in good standing, as well as past participants of any of the Guild's Backlog elimination drives, are eligible to vote. The candidate with the highest number of votes will become the Lead Coordinator, therefore, your vote really matters! There is also a referendum to appoint a Coordinator Emeritus. Cast your vote today.

Sent on behalf of the Guild of Copy Editors using AWB on 07:54, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Broken Hill Panorama

Dear John,

I am a Senior Lecturer in Architecture at the University of Queensland. I tried to download a higher res image of your wonderful Broken Hill Panorama - The image is corrupted. I'm helping a colleague who designed the memorial & restaurant on top of the slag heap. We would like to use your image as part of a report on the project. My contact: p.guedes@uq.edu.au

Best wishes,

Pedro