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I have opened an RfC related to an issue on which you recently commented: [[Wikipedia_talk:Selected_anniversaries#Year_wikilinking_in_OTD]]. [[User:Nikkimaria|Nikkimaria]] ([[User talk:Nikkimaria|talk]]) 03:19, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
I have opened an RfC related to an issue on which you recently commented: [[Wikipedia_talk:Selected_anniversaries#Year_wikilinking_in_OTD]]. [[User:Nikkimaria|Nikkimaria]] ([[User talk:Nikkimaria|talk]]) 03:19, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

== [[Talk:Middlesex (novel)#Intersex grammar]] ==

Hi Tony1. As someone who has a strong command of English grammar, would you provide advice at [[Talk:Middlesex (novel)#Intersex grammar]]? Thank you, [[User:Cunard|Cunard]] ([[User talk:Cunard|talk]]) 04:22, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

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Curing capitalitis--help!

Dear Tony1, the discussion on capitalizing protocol layers in the article on the OSI model has still not come to a conclusion and frankly the guys are driving me crazy. They seem unwilling to recognize any argument nor do they make theirs explicit. I don't see how reaching an agreement is possible under these circumstances. Would you have some advice how to deal with this situation? Thanks, --EnOreg (talk) 20:34, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lame RMs

Tony, why do you waste our time with RMs when PROD would obviously be a better route? Dicklyon (talk) 03:32, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Which article(s) are you referring to? Someone who will defend an article from renaming will certainly challenge any prod. AfD is probably the way to go. --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 03:56, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Global Squeeze and Korean Domestic Market are the latest two. I'd be surprised if anyone removes the PROD, but if they do I'd rather go to AfD than to RM. Dicklyon (talk) 04:09, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Copyedits

Tony, I'm rushing to get an issue written and out a.s.a.p, but could use a second set of eyes to review/copyedit, as prose written pre-dawn has a tendency to turn to mush and fact checking is cursory. N&N, ITN, Arb and Tech need a look if you can spare the time. Skomorokh 06:29, 18 October 2011 (UTC) OK, within an hour. Tony (talk) 06:30, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Appreciate it, will email soon. Skomorokh 06:43, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Slide show without purge

I wonder if you could weigh in at Talk:India#Rotation_vs._slide_show, where there is a discussion in progress about the possibility of having a slide show (a la the newspaper web sites) without a purge. You were mentioned as an expert. Thanks. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 15:42, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

one note

I moved HIV Rev response element, but not HIV ribosomal frameshift signal. Looks like "Rev" is the proper noun of Rev (HIV).

I moved Henry Hub‎, since it's the proper name of an actual building. The pricing point is named after it.

You might be interested in Talk:Ground_granulated_blast-furnace_slag#the_hyphen_between_the_first_two_words.

--Enric Naval (talk) 20:38, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Capitalized Rev is the protein, rev is the gene, by bio conventions. That's why it's Rev in RRE, but not in Rev (HIV). Dicklyon (talk) 21:34, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand. You say here that RRE is capitalized, but then you downcase the article. Anyways, comment at Talk:HIV_Rev_response_element#capitalizating_.22Rev.22_in_the_name. --Enric Naval (talk) 14:13, 21 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, sorry, I seem to have misstated that. It's lowercase (because it's RNA, not protein) in RRE. If the article was about a protein it would be upper. I haven't reviewed this carefully, but there's at least a principle there to work with. If we got it wrong, the biologists will fix it. Dicklyon (talk) 15:03, 21 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ground(-)granulated ... well, I think I see, in which case some of the literature has it wrong. Tony (talk) 05:12, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ARMA models

Tony, you might be surprised that in autoregressive moving-average models, autoregressive is not a modifier of moving-average model. You got the hyphen right in your move, but if you really want it to be right, you need an en dash to signify that it is a model that is both autoregressive and moving average. This en dash is sometimes found in better sources (like this book), as is the hyphen, but I haven't found them both together, which is the only thing that is grammatically and stylistically correct. But people who use these buzz phrases forget that it might be wise to do their best to convey the meaning, rather than rely on readers being in the know. What do we do about that then? Dicklyon (talk) 21:56, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And your hyphen in Light-speed silicon chip makes sense, but the article and its title don't. I've put a merge proposal on it. Good thing I'm stalking you. Dicklyon (talk) 23:03, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, thanks for that—I really do need stalking for a few of these moves. Perhaps I should flag these ones. 03:17, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
Oh, you actually did Autoregressive–moving-average model! You're bolder than I am. I merged the Light-speed silicon chip out of existence. Dicklyon (talk) 22:17, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Ryll-Nardzewski" is a hyphenated name!

Hello.

Please note that I have undone this edit. "Ryll-Nardzewski" is a hyphenated name of just one person. The result is not named after two people named "Ryll" and "Nardzewski". Michael Hardy (talk) 03:33, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much, Michael. My method is to scan the refs to ensure they are separate people. On this occasion, clearly I didn't look far enough. I'll check that the article text is reverted, too. Tony (talk) 05:08, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, it was obvious. I'm getting too old. Tony (talk) 05:09, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Multilinear principal-component analysis

I'm not sure whether renaming "Multilinear principal component analysis" to "Multilinear principal-component analysis" was a very good idea either. It should at least match principal component analysis (i.e. the correct parenthesization here would be "(multilinear ((principal component) analysis))"). In this case I think the literature is pretty clear that it should be written without a hyphen. —Ruud 21:53, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, you have to look back into the 1940s to find it in books before PCA became so familiar as to shed its hyphen. But in less familiar compound structures, putting the hyphen back to clarify the structure is still good style. Dicklyon (talk) 22:44, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much Tony

Hi Tony.

Thank you very much for editing and improving my first article. There's an ongoing Article for Deletion discussion on it right now. Your insights on the matter will be greatly appreciated. Kind regards, GuterTag (talk) 10:16, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Guter, you're welcome. But the article looks a bit like advertising. Could you possibly add more information to it, and I mean technical information. Then the feeling that it's just there for the google ranking would be countered by greater utility. I really can't work out what the software is about, and how it's distinctive. Tony (talk) 10:20, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Adding and removing, adding and removing...

Tony, we've never had any interaction, but I've long respected you as an editor and admired your work here. I have to say that I found your comments to be both disheartening and inaccurate. Here is what happened, as I see it: I made a bold edit. I thought it was an improvement, and I left a detailed summary. I was reverted without so much as a word. While I don't edit-war, I have no problem undoing a revert when the editor can't be bothered to leave a simple edit summary, explaining why he or she felt I was wrong. When I was reverted a second time, I didn't continue to revert, but rather went to the talk page. The consensus there seemed (to me) that while the long-standing version may or may not have been more ideal than mine, it was preferable to the newer version. It was on this basis that I reverted to the long-standing version. After thinking it over, I soon decided to err on the side of caution, and self-revert. The "adding and removing" took place literally over a matter of seconds. The next day, I again went to the talk page. The editor who originally reverted me said it was fine to revert to the long-standing version, and this is what I was attempting to do when I inadvertantly removed "and topical", which you kindly corrected. So in summary, I made:

  • 1.) A bold edit
  • 2.) A justified revert
  • 3.) A self-revert
  • 4.) An honest mistake

I feel that this is a far cry from your characterization of "adding and removing, adding and removing". My sole intention was to improve Wikipedia, as I'm sure your's is. Regards. Joefromrandb (talk) 00:34, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, sorry if it looked unfair or over the top. I'm time-stressed at the moment, and aargh, there's the b....y Signpost page to do. No problems. I should say that wp:moslink can be a hot-button page, so editors tend to tread cautiously in making any changes. Cheers, Joe. Tony (talk) 07:48, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It's all good. Thanks for the response! Joefromrandb (talk) 13:04, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Blocking policy

Writing new policies isn't something I'm particularly good at - so I'm going to leave it to you. Given the number of comments so far I doubt waiting a bit will make a big difference. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 08:15, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OTD RFC

I have opened an RfC related to an issue on which you recently commented: Wikipedia_talk:Selected_anniversaries#Year_wikilinking_in_OTD. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:19, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Middlesex (novel)#Intersex grammar

Hi Tony1. As someone who has a strong command of English grammar, would you provide advice at Talk:Middlesex (novel)#Intersex grammar? Thank you, Cunard (talk) 04:22, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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