User talk:Dodger67

About 2kW limits

> When did it change?

Hard to say. Former Yugoslavia cesed to exist in 1991. Today, maximum power limits differ from country to country, but nowhere exceeds 1500 W:

Croatia - 1000 W (source: Official Gazzette of the Republic of Croatia, http://www.nn.hr/clanci/sluzbeno/2003/3165.htm )

Serbia - 1500 W (source: http://www.yu1srs.org.yu/dl/srs_doc/Pravilnik%20o%20radioamaterima.pdf )

Slovenia - 1500 W (source: Post and Electronic Communications Agency of the Republic of Slovenia, http://www.apek.si/datoteke/File/ZEKom/pogoji_za_uporabo_amaterski_radi.postaj.pdf )

Montenegro - 1500 W (source: Agency for telecommunications and postal service, http://www.agentel.cg.yu/regulativa/radioamateri.pdf )

Macedonia and Bosnia & Herzegovina - sorry, unable to find internet source atm.

Cheers, Alek

Ibid

Hi Dodger I was asked to remove those I (SmackBot) had placed. Unfortunatly it seems someone else, one of the askees, has decided to do it himself. Hence the confusion. Rich Farmbrough, 16:04 24 January 2009 (UTC).

Towns of the Northern Cape

Hi Dodger

Sorry about the issue with the towns of the Northern Cape. There are so many towns which weren't on the list, I thought we should maybe only list these with articles. Because there is a List of cities and towns in the Northern Cape, where we could place the names of all the towns in the Northern Cape.

I see you are also from the Northern Cape. Iam from Kenhardt, and you?

Id like to hear more from you!

Regards, Lourie

Welcome to WikiProject South Africa

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SADF equipment photo's

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SAN Photos

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Stellenbosch to bid for Wikimania 2012!

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USS New York christening

Dodge The naming ceremony was held in 2002 onboard the Intrepid, The christening is a breaking of a bottle of champagne across the bow, the first wetting of a vessel. It's not religious. Thks Scott www.ussnewyork.com

Dodger Here is the official booklet http://www.flickr.com/photos/ussnewyork/2306752246/

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Sophiatown Importance

Hi Dodger, I saw you undid the importance on Sophiatown. I also wondered about this. I agree with you suburbs should not be high importance. I think what tipped the scale for me to move it to high importance was the historical and cultural impact. Sophiatown features in the Apartheid Infobox, which I think should only reference to the more important aspects of Apratheid. Sophiatown is also more important (again an opinion) that District Six which has a more important rating. How do one go about resolving this? I know too little about Wikipedia on how this should work. ShiningWolf (talk) 08:54, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Discussion started at Talk:Sophiatown#Importance_rating. Roger (talk) 09:16, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

I think the debate is good and I am learning from it. A couple of other questions: 1) How does this importance issue get resolved, i.e. who or what process makes the final call? 2) Previously you mentioned that their are a few "jakkalsies" to be sorted out on Sophiatown before its rating can be considered a B. I know the references are messy and I will fix that during the next couple of weeks. That other stuff I am unaware of and need outside help. Who will edit this to make sure these things get caught? Do I ask for an editor or just wait for it to get fixed? ShiningWolf (talk) 16:27, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

1. Participants in the discussion simply come to an agreement at some point.

2. I've been fixing a few of the minor issues - take a look at the article history. I did a few fixes to stuff like punctuation and grammar, and I added a bunch of relevant links - so far mostly in the geography section. Stuff like that really helps to improve the overall quality of an article. Please do have a go at cleaning it up further. How about the two of us give it a concentrated go over the next day or two then we invite someone uninvolved to evaluate it for a new quality rating. (I'll be travelling on either Saturday or Sunday and then I'll be officially on holiday so I might not be here very often until about the second week in January.)

BTW I see quite a few projects don't use importance ratings at all as they feel it causes more unhappiness than it is worth. The argument goes that closely involved editors tend to feel "their" article is more important than most other people would rate it.

If you find yourself beginning to care too much about an article, it's a sign that you should take a break from even looking at it for a few weeks - it's happened to me a few times over the years that I've been here. Though I must say you're very brave to have taken on writing a new article so early in your "WP career". I was active here for more than a year (just fixing typos, formats, commenting on talk pages, etc) before I had the guts to start a new article. My first one was Thunder City. Roger (talk) 16:49, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Roger, you are a very kind man. I am going on holiday tomorrow but will make every effort to clean it up tomorrow and Saturday. I just hate references. You are right about getting too involved. I actually told myself I will work on two articles otherwise one gets a bit obsessive. I agree about getting a third person involved to review it. Anyway enjoy your holiday and let me get cracking on the references. ShiningWolf (talk) 16:55, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Season's tidings!

FWiW Bzuk (talk) 03:17, 25 December 2011 (UTC).

Thanks! Roger (talk) 18:37, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Welcome back

Welcome back from your leave. Hope you had a good time. ShiningWolf (talk) 05:01, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Your recent activity at Airlink

Regarding the warring you're engaged into with User:Ameshoff, and just to be neutral with you both, I have to place the following warning for you too.

Your recent editing history shows that you are in danger of breaking the three-revert rule, or that you may have already broken it. An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Breaking the three-revert rule often leads to a block.

If you wish to avoid being blocked, instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to discuss the changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. You may still be blocked for edit warring even if you do not exceed the technical limit of the three-revert rule if your behavior indicates that you intend to continue to revert repeatedly.--Jetstreamer (talk) 16:51, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Fair enough, though I stopped at two reverts as I am fully aware of 3RR. I've moved on to expanding other parts of the article. Thanks for your assistance. Roger (talk) 17:04, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

In regards to your last edit of the George SA Airlink accident the following: As Airlink and their lawyers, you based your information on an Interim report #2 filed by the AIID of SACAA. This report has never been finalised although it was due in September 2011. I see the interim report has been withdrawn from the webpage stating it’s under review. In my opinion this report (of which I have a copy) is flawed and for the following factual reason. The report never apportions blame to the PIC on the fateful flight although he was above targets on speed and the glide scope and thus made a deep landing. The deep landing directly impacted on the pilot’s ability to decelerate the plane sufficiently to make a safe exit at the end of the runway. The report totally steers away from the fact that the pilot made a deep landing and pushes the idea of aquaplaning. Tests runs on the surface after the accident showed the following and I quote “On 9 December 2009, two days after the accident, the service of the same service provider was obtained to perform another friction test on the runway. The tests were conducted at 65 kph and at the same runway intervals as the previous test of 6 November 2009. The friction test results reflect an average value of 0.77, which met the design objective level of 0.74. The tests results display an improvement in the runway friction levels if compared to the test of 6 November 2009.” No problems in the test results so why push the aquaplaning and not the deep landing? The figures in the report shows clearly the plane was doomed because of the deep landing. I quote “The calculated factored landing (wet runway) required to stop the aircraft was 1895 m (6216 feet).” The plane’s touchdown was at 639m from the threshold of the runway. Do the calculations, there was simply not enough runway left for a safe landing in wet conditions!

SA Airlink has of all the domestic airlines serving South African airports the worst safety record. This was the point I was trying to get across. A point you don’t want people studying the SA Airlink page to be made aware of. This is totally discombobulating to me. Why not put the facts out there? User:Ameshoff (talk) 23 January 2012 at 11:05 UTC —Preceding undated comment added 11:05, 23 January 2012 (UTC).

I'm afraid you are mistaken about the source of the information I added. If you take a look at the citation appended to my edit you will see that I used this article from the Business Day newspaper as my source. As you seem to have access to better sources, please feel free to edit in accordance with your source(s). On a personal note, there is no reason for you to feel "discombobulated" at all, this is very much the normal way that WP articles are improved. Roger (talk) 12:08, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Revdel

Please see WP:REVDEL which mentions the Streisand effect. In future request revision deletion by the correct methods. fredgandt 16:35, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. Avoiding the Streisand effect is the reason why I requested that even the request itself should also be revdeleted. Roger (talk) 16:38, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Understood. However, the more fuss is made the worse it gets. Generally, making the request, works best by email. Quite and quick. Anyway, at least the kid has definitely got the message now  fredgandt 16:42, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

If only I have the time, I'd rather have liked to WP:Adopt her, she seems just the type of youngster we need - she's capable of writing proper sentences! Roger (talk)

GAR

Howdy Dodger, it's been a while! I just wanted to let you know that an article to which you've been a significant contributor, Black mamba, is having its GA status reassessed. Any comments or fixes would be much appreciated. Danger ^{High voltage!} 09:41, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I'm not sure if you are aware that the major contributor who did most of the work some time back (prefer not to name him to avoid NPA) and tended towards rather agressive "Ownership" has been indefinitely blocked for sockpuppetry. So this time around it will hopefully go smoothly without crashing into inflated egos. Roger (talk) 09:46, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Dude.

I've popped by Spina_bifida, and have commented there. I'm aware you're a much more experienced editor than me and this is very important to you, but it might help to dial back the approach a little... Your passion is slightly clouding the good points you make.  :) Failedwizard (talk) 21:52, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

TUI

I agree that the referencing is appalling, but it's not a speedy for spam. Too neutrally worded. Needs work, but should stay IMO (humble I ain't...). Peridon (talk) 21:39, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Mustard seed

Hi Dodger. Note that I collapsed the discussion on WP:RD/S with a link to the WT:RD#Religion on the Science Refdesk again! section you created. -- ToE 12:35, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Roger (talk) 12:41, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

KLM Destinations

Roger, sovereign states have ambassadors and issue passports not countries, although most countries are sovereign states. England is a country of that there is no doubt, but it is not sovereign. Regardless of this argument, what is the actual problem with stating in a Wikipedia article that London is in England and Aberdeen is in Scotland etc? I cannot see the problem. 78.86.37.131 (talk) 12:47, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

See WT:WikiProject Airlines#UK not a country - Please keep this discussion on one page. Roger (talk) 12:57, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Removing comments made by others

Please refrain from removing comments made by others. Your edit has been reverted. Thank you. Von Restorff (talk) 13:33, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

When template

Glad to see you moved on, thanks. If I understand this page correctly the answer to this when template is "January 2012". Von Restorff (talk) 15:06, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

thanks for the Warning

i am afraid your article about the Black mamba(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_mamba) is wrong regarding the the speed of the snake. the movement speed of the snake is being said to be 16-20 Km/h which is equivalent to 0.44 m/s - 0.55 m/s ... the values that you have are outrageous 4.32m/s=155.52 Km/h=97.2Mph and 5.4m/s=194.4Km/h=121.5Mph. so before you send any more Vandalism Warnings please check the details. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yolinkin (talk • contribs) 13:22, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

From Nick5001

I'm not sure if I am sending a message right but what do you need — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nick5001 (talk • contribs) 20:27, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

I have absolutely no idea what you are referring to, please explain in more detail. Roger (talk) 20:32, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Field hockey

Even if you think they are talking rubbish, you should not edit another editor's comments on a talk page - see WP:TPO. I've reverted your edit, but then replaced the comment you added in the same edit. PamD 19:15, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, that was accidental - I meant to copy-paste but did cut-paste instead. (Note to self: Don't edit WP pages when in a hurry to go out!) Roger (talk) 06:45, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

It happens! (Hit the "vandalism" button unintentionally recently by not waiting for the page to load properly or something, had to grovel in apology). PamD 08:19, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Church of St Teilo, Llantilio Crossenny

Thanks for fixing my error in the name, and other sorts. Could I ask for your help in one other matter? I first created the article from an entry I put into the article Listed buildings in Wales, where I placed it in the Grade I listed buildings in Monmouthshire section. Unfortunately, this is where I first spelt Crossenny wrongly and it is still spelt wrongly. When I try to change it to the correct spelling, it redlinks the article name, saying that it does not exist - which of course it does, subsequent to your sorting the problem. I've no idea how to fix this. Sorry for the essay and for the additional work. KJP1 (talk) 18:02, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

It took me two tries but I found the error. The list entry had two typos - LLantilio instead of Llantilio. It's no bother - fixing WP articles beats watching a "Law and Order" rerun! Roger (talk) 18:14, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Really sorry - my typing's as poor as my understanding of Wikipedia formats. Much appreciate the effort. Now you can go back to "Law and Order." Thanks again. KJP1 (talk) 18:18, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Sorry again, it seemed rather irrelevant to the article, but I can see that it has a relevance to the history of the article. KJP1 (talk) 18:35, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

You worry too much! LOL! There's no damage done that can't be easily fixed. Roger (talk) 18:52, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

In the interests of not worrying too much, I won't apologise for the @ then. Have a good day. KJP1 (talk) 20:39, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Bedtime for Bonzo (almost 11pm here). I have an early start tomorrow. Goodnight. Roger (talk) 20:46, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Hawking

Hi, just so you know - per this GA (Talk:Stephen_Hawking/GA4) I've made this [1] change, which I also agree with, I'm aware you're not a fan, would you like us to take it to the talk? (I'd be quite happy with the idea of an entirely separate assistive technology section, but I think we'd need some more sources for both the wheelchair and the HCI stuff...) Cheers Fayedizard (talk) 08:12, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes we'll have to just leave it like that until we can develop a more comprehensive assitive technology section, or even a section incorporating the technology as well as something about his personal assistants (I vaguely remember reading that his second wife was his assistant before they married). Roger (talk) 10:58, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Cool, glad your happy about it :) Fayedizard (talk) 11:38, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Dan Roodt

I have replied to you on the article's talk page. user: Ysgravin —Preceding undated comment added 15:05, 18 February 2012 (UTC).

Hi there. I commented on the Dan Roodt article's talk page. Please see my suggestion there. I believe the best way to save the article on Dan Roodt is to revert it to a version before the addition of so much unverified material. Johannes Jaar (talk) 08:29, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Genocide Watch

I see see you have also taken an interest in this. It seems to me to be a self-promoting one man "organization" trolling for donations. Of course quite a few editors (and vandals) use the Genocide Watch website to support various claims and allegations.

I would like to nominate it for deletion, but I don't know how to go about it. Can you help me?

pietopper (talk) 11:54, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

I've just PRODed it - let's see if it sticks. If it survives WP:PROD the next step is the full WP:AfD procedure. Roger (talk) 12:07, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Sophiatown/GA1

Hello Dodger67, I just reviewed Sophiatown, an article which you nominated for GA. The article is good but still lacking a little bit. You may read by comments on the GA review talk page.--12george1 (talk) 21:46, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for all you help on this Roger. Your copy editing skills are superb as testified by the review. I will look at the referencing stuff tomorrow afternoon. ShiningWolf (talk) 07:53, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Fixed all the remaining issues. Maybe check out the comments on reference 1. Cant add access date as it is generated from a template. Not sure what the next steps are so over to you. ShiningWolf (talk) 12:35, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Excellent! I've notified the reviewer, User:12george1, that the issues raised in the review have now been addressed and the article is ready for rating. Roger (talk) 12:51, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

The Parlotones

Hi Roger

The Parlotones entire page is a joke considering their real achievements. The current bio makes the statement that they have a lot of money how is that a levant fact to the story of the band. I have been working with this band for 10 years and your bio makes them sound like an insignificant garage band instead of the most successful South African band of all time. If you insist on doing this then let me help you with some facts you can go and verify.

Raphael Domalik Manager of The Parlotones and Founder of Sovereign Entertainment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raphaeldomalik (talk • contribs) 22:44, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Raphael, Welcome to Wikipedia. I agree the article is a mess and I would really love to help fix it.

Yes, verifiable facts from reliable sources is exactly what we need.

In view of your close association with the band there are three really important guidelines you need to read - Conlict of interest, Neutral point of view and Advertising.

A Wikipedia article may not be written in a way that promotes or advertises the subject - the article must contain only neutral, factual material. Regarding sources, we can only used published material, personal knowlege (I was there) is not verifiable. If you could point to press articles, interviews, etc they would be ideal sources. Less desirable but still useful to a limited extent are press releases and other material published by the band and it's promoters - these are self published sources which must be used with caution only if third party sources for the particular information are not avialable.

Lastly I'd like to suggest that we continue this process at the article's Talk page rather than on your and my personal Talk pages - so that other interested people can also participate.

Thanks for your willingness to help fix up the article, sorry to dump you in the deep end with all the rules and policies, but that is how we maintain the encyclopedia's integrity. Roger (talk) 07:20, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Started adding some references to improve the Parlotones. This is not going to be a quick job. ShiningWolf (talk) 20:11, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	Roger, I thought that this is the appropriate thanks for helping the Sophiatown article get GA status. I could also have selected a copyeditor's barnstar to acknowledge your editing. The reason I chose this one was that you helped and coordinated the whole process and also guided and mentored a novice gently through all of this. Well done. ShiningWolf (talk) 10:43, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Roger (talk) 16:16, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Re: Rooivalk

Hey Roger. No worries about the Rooivalk renaming, I'll first propose any suggested move on the discussion page before going ahead and doing anything. I'll also be using the time before suggesting the move to find out more about how commonly Denel used the AH-2A designation. My edit to the SAAF article was in line with SAAF naming of the type, which before the hand-over seemed to refer exclusively to the 'Denel Rooivalk' and obviously subsequent to that has referred to the Denel Rooivalk MkI. Darren (talk) 14:10, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Black mamba/GA2

Nice, huh, a sock of the sock coming back to the GA that he screwed up in the first place. Drmies (talk) 15:46, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

African airlines

Hi! About this edit, AFAIK the document doesn't specify how much aircraft each category has. It's that airlines in Africa have a higher % of old aircraft than airlines around the world in general WhisperToMe (talk) 06:24, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Saffron

Hi, Dodger. Perhaps I'm being extraordinarily dense, but I don't understand your edit summary. What do the stamens' darkening have to do with it? The flowers appear in autumn. (Quoting from the article: "Only in October, after most other flowering plants have released their seeds, do its brilliantly hued flowers develop".) Rivertorch (talk) 07:51, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Well actually your edit summary said spring, sorry for the confusion. But anyway an error in a caption does not mean the image is necessarily wrong. Roger (talk) 07:56, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing it. Rivertorch (talk) 16:09, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Hey...

…Just wanted to say thank you for your general support on the Hawking push - things like [2] and generally keeping the talk page under control have made life a lot easier for me and it's been brilliant to be able to concentrate on the more pro-active stuff, without fearing I'll get into a protracted debate somewhere. Really appreciated. Fayedizard (talk) 22:11, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Identification

Now that one of your questions about identification procedures at WP:Reference desk/Humanities is beginning to slip out of sight into the Ref. desk archives, I just wanted to let you know that I found and reported a detailed treatment of the question at Stop and identify statutes. —— Shakescene (talk) 04:47, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I've been watching the topic with fascination. I would never have guessed that such a simple question would result in such a huge discussion. It seems to be a somewhat hot topic in the US. Here in South Africa we have an ID bokk (looks a bit like a passport) which is used for everything from banking to voting. Roger (talk) 08:30, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Well back in the day, of course, South Africa's pass laws were used to control movement and residence (as internal passports did in Stalin's Russia, and no doubt Czarist Russia before that), and they led to far more vigorous controversy and unrest than they have so far in the U.S. I thought they were an innovation of the Nationalist governments that began with Daniel F. Malan's in 1948, but looking at Wikipedia, I see that (although strengthened by the Nationalists) they go back to 1945, 1923 and even 1797. Some areas of the ante-bellum American South required slaves outside their own plantations to carry passes showing that they were on accepted business with their owners' permission. Today, the main U.S. concerns about identification relate to immigration and voting, with a wave of Voter ID laws making it harder for those without standard documents to register and cast a ballot. —— Shakescene (talk) 21:54, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Apostolic Faith Mission of South Africa

Hi Roger, trust that you are well. I want to submit the Apostolic Faith Mission of South Africa article for GA status. Before I do that I just wondered if you wouldn't mind a quick sanity check to see if there are any glaring omissions or things that need fix up. Kind regards, ShiningWolf (talk) 07:47, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

I'll take a look but I must warn you that I'm not really up to speed on religion and churches articles. So I'll check structure, layout, language, etc, but not so much the content. Roger (talk) 10:46, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Dont spend more than 10 mins on it. Just want to make sure there is not something glaringly wrong. ShiningWolf (talk) 18:22, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Smile!

A smile for you You’ve just received a random act of kindness! 66.87.7.209 (talk) 14:05, 3 April 2012 (UTC)