something went wrong [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=He_Dan_Jia&diff=prev&oldid=532437520 here], not all the lang templates are closed. clearly they were screwed up to start with, but the screw up wasn't as visible. [[User:Frietjes|Frietjes]] ([[User talk:Frietjes|talk]]) 00:30, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
something went wrong [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=He_Dan_Jia&diff=prev&oldid=532437520 here], not all the lang templates are closed. clearly they were screwed up to start with, but the screw up wasn't as visible. [[User:Frietjes|Frietjes]] ([[User talk:Frietjes|talk]]) 00:30, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
:Thanks for catching it. I'm doing these manually and do preview the page before saving. Don't know how I didn't catch that one. [[User:Bgwhite|Bgwhite]] ([[User talk:Bgwhite#top|talk]]) 00:36, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
:Thanks for catching it. I'm doing these manually and do preview the page before saving. Don't know how I didn't catch that one. [[User:Bgwhite|Bgwhite]] ([[User talk:Bgwhite#top|talk]]) 00:36, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
== Bot task ==
Hi,
I noticed your bot is editing at ~15 edits per minute. That is pretty high, is there a reason for this? [[User:CrimsonBlue|CrimsonBlue]] ([[User talk:CrimsonBlue|talk]]) 01:58, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
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Nope, it's worked just as planned. Two things going on. There is an unusual <font color> combination, so "font color" wasn't changed to "span color". This will be rectified on the next database dump and the second pass of the bot. Second, the page is coded wrong. The proper way is for font/span tag to go inside the wikilink to change the color of the wikilink. As long as there wasn't an unusual combination, the bot did correct the coding and moved the font/span tag inside the wikilink. There were alot of pages that the font tag were actually broken, but now work. Again, most of these should be rectified on the second go around. Bgwhite (talk) 23:02, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
But it is broke. The font tag is depreciated, should never be used and will someday go away. {{TransLink (BC) color|}} is coded incorrectly, causing the "unusual" combination and the article was coded incorrectly by not putting the font/span tag in the wikilink. In this case it worked before my changes, but there have also been cases where it didn't work, but now does. You see it breaking your page, but I'm trying to make it work for all pages... hopefully, cross fingers. Bgwhite (talk) 23:45, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
OK. Rather than wasting any more of your time and mine by complaining, I will be constructive and manually fix the stations of those two transit systems. If I see more problems like this, I now know what is required. Secondarywaltz (talk) 22:03, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Thanks so much for your responses on the NAS Wexford Ireland page. I'm most grateful for you feedback and agree. It really is a work in progress, but felt it was best to put it out there rather than the single paragraph of introduction which was originally there (though even though very important). Happy New Year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rocketrosy (talk • contribs) 04:14, 5 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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1. Brahmin (the learned) 2. Kshatriya (the warriors) 3. Baishya (Businessmen) 4. Shudra (labours For details, see Varna (Hinduism)
Dutta Vs Dutta
See this. I felt, "Dutta Vs Dutta" should be created by a Dutta (me).
My name
The Wikipedia article says "Dutta" means "Sun", and origin of the word "Tito" is Titus or Titan,
Kshatriya
Kayastha is a community of Hindus. Traditionally they are Kshatriya.. at least used to be warriors, fighters... used to join king'/country's army (or even king too).
Kshatriya and Kayastha Interesting story?
Now Parashurama (a Brahmin, see list in the box) is said to have killed all "kshatriyas" 21 times (from the lead of the Parashurama article- Parashurama is most known for ridding the world of kshatriyas twenty-one times over after the mighty king Kartavirya killed his father.... He killed all "Kshatriya" men, but only those was safe who were not born still (unborn babies in the body of their pregnant mothers). Now "Body" means Kaya in Sanskrit ans stha means "in". So, Kayastha means in body (since those babies were "in their mothers body (womb) then). That's how they/we are named Kayastha (Kshatriya).
I know a researcher of this topic, he is on a short wikibreak, I can ask him if you want more details about this story. User:Sitush may know more! --Tito Dutta (talk)
Template_talk:Infobox_officeholder#Formatting of name & honorifcs
No, I was not the one. I was also thinking who made so many edits in that category!
WP:POM can not add defaultsort! And this has more issues: this does not add the pages in my watchlist. That means if you revert and reply to me (in your edit summary), I can't understand it. I reported/suggested it in the first weak.
Most probably in both questions were unanswered. I thought to ask you too which I have not done so far! I had another question too "How to skip "You have new message" alert in AWB, there is no way to skip ("cancel") it unless you see it. which I have not asked still. --Tito Dutta (talk) 02:12, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
1) Get any alert when I am editing any user page or talk page which is unwanted (everytime I load a category I have to filter out manually)?
Not exactly sure what you are asking. If you load a category, it is all or nothing.
2) Stay signed in always (I mean bot Ctrl+L and sign in from saved account too?
AWB should never log you out unless you close down the program.
I have saved 5 different profiles. Each one has different settings. Each one does have a username attached (either me or my bot account). I manually enter the password, but you can save it if you want.
After I have the settings I want I hit File -> Save settings.
In the profile window (Ctrl+L), press the "Add button". You can enter the settings file, username and password.
3) Avoid adding "Orphan" tag in articles? That's a tag I don't like to add!
It is either use all tags or no tags. I do keep "auto tag" off... It is under "Options" in the bottom middle window.
4) How to add persondata short description using AWB?
If there is no persondata, AWB will generally add it. After that, you have to manually type the value. See more below.
5) "How to skip "You have new message" alert in AWB
You don't. You have to view the message. In theory, if you are using AWB, somebody leaves you a message that there is something wrong with your edits, you will be able to stop and correct your edits as soon as possible.
A) To add defaultsort and name automatically, you have to uncheck an option. Under Options at the top, uncheck "Restrict {{DEFAULTSORT}} change addition.
B) I use a program that with one key press, Persondata, defaultsort template or anything else is added. I press (Ctrl+C) and an empty persondata template is added. I add alot of banners and parameters to talk pages: (Alt+O) adds WikiProject Olympics. (Alt+A) adds WikiProject Athletics. (⊞ Win+s) adds |sports-work-group=yes|sports-priority=low. You can set it up to add anything, so a common short description value would be an example.
C) Under options -> Default edit summaries. You can add/delete/change your edit summaries. If you click ok, you can save these summaries so the next time you log in, they will be there. Just hit "save settings" under file. This is another reasons I have 5 profiles. The talk page profile has different edit summaries than the main page profile. Bgwhite (talk) 07:10, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
1) Once I have mistakenly edited Wikipedia talk archived discussion and once a user's sandbox, though I have reverted quickly. Searching with "What links here" gets you all namespace results, now you have to "filter" those. I knew it, but those two times I forgot to filter. That was the question. Is there any way yo get alert?
Is this the "What links here" on the website? There is a way on the site to filter on the web with the "Namespace" drop down menu.
Otherwise, under "List" -> Filter, you can set it to not keep userpages or talk pages.
2) I can not understand. Or that's I am doing. Open AWB → Press Ctrl+L → Click on Titodutta where password is already saved. But, since I have only 1 profile in AWB, I don't want to know to do this too. I want to auto sign in as I do in Wikipedia (Firefox).
No, there is no way to do it like Firefox.
3) I manually undo it by double clicking on the line (specially if those are "New pages" to avoid biting new users), but that AWB does not understand that and adds "Tagged Orphan" in edit summary.
That is a "bug" of AWB. You can't double click to undo a change made on the first line. There was a reason why this is done when I asked, but I can't remember now.
I just undid this as it removed the {{overline}} from a digit which was meant to be there: the paragraph only makes sense with it. It's unclear what problem you're trying to fix from your edit summary but if there's a problem with the overline template that's only the first of many uses of it in that article, where it's used for the particular mathematical notation of balanced tenary. It shouldn't be removed without replacing it with some other notation which distinguishes those digits.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds22:44, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not a math major, so it doesn't make sense with or without. In wikicode, three curly braces (ie. {{{ ) means a start of a variable. So {{{overline|1}},0,1} could mean overline is the variable name with a value of 1. Also, some bots see {{{overline|1}} and think this is a template, but the editor just mistakenly added a third curly brace and then the bot will delete a brace. Adding a <math> or {{math}} tag, putting <nowiki> around the first brace or putting a space after the first brace. I don't know which one is best. Bgwhite (talk) 23:32, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It's displaying fine so the parser is coping fine with it. If bots can't cope with it then they need fixing, or at least training so they recognise such constructions as well as the parser. But it's valid syntax, unless there's some guideline I'm not aware of.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds00:02, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The overline template is used correctly in various mineral articles such as azurite, I see no error in viewing the articles so I'm reverting. Vsmith (talk) 23:37, 21 December 2012 (UTC) Without the overline the article is in error. Vsmith (talk) 23:39, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You are not seeing an error in the article, but it is coded wrong and a bot will change it. Correctly code it or have it changed again and again at some point by bots. There are only about 10 articles that it was coded wrong. Bgwhite (talk) 23:49, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
This overline could be crucial and shouldn't be removed by a bot (rather fixed). That said, Vsmith, in many entries on cleavage plane, like in copiapite, that overline is useless because of equivalent directions (i.e. -101 there is same as 101). In some cases, I'm not sure, because of the different angles between, say, 101/-102 and 101/102 planes. Are those cleavage planes a loose list, or they are groups of interrelated directions? Materialscientist (talk) 23:58, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Seems the bot may need educating. That said - the curly braces around crystal planes could be replaced with square brackets - or would that run afoul of another bot? I see the Handbook of Mineralogy uses both -- and I don't recall any specific reason for one or the other, need to dig out the old ref books. A math tag would be ugly and not needed there. Vsmith (talk) 00:19, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
@Vsmith, the use of brackets is explained in Miller index - the four types refer to four cases of crystallographically equivalent planes/directions or fixed planes/directions. This comes back to my question above, whether those cleavage planes are related groups or loose lists (my guess is they are loose lists, i.e. all those overlines can be removed from cleavage, and there is no use in any cumbersome formatting). Materialscientist (talk) 00:28, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I figured this: overline can often be removed, but only by a person who understands all consequences for a given sentence, i.e. {} brackets, overline, and their combination may be crucial when the symmetry is low (especially if there is no inversion center). For example, in ajoite, (table I), 4-4-4 and 44-4 planes are distinctly different, and thus removal of overline would likely be erroneous in any situation. Materialscientist (talk) 03:17, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed the overline is important in some cases, see rhodonite: "Perfect on {110} and {110}, (110) ^ (110) = 92.5°" for an example. Although not critical here as the bar is over the second 1 and that shouldn't bother the bot. Point is {110} is a valid construct and as noted above it "parses" just fine - therefore rather than an awkward "fix" with nowrap - why not educate the bot? If a bot is making changes to valid content erroneously, then fix the bot rather than needlessly complicating the act of editing. Vsmith (talk) 03:58, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
List of Muppets
Hi Bgwhite. Seasons greetings and hope you're well. I'm letting you know I had to undo your edit to List of Muppets. You'd removed some transclusion code which was enabling the list of Muppets which featured in The Muppet Show to be mirrored in The Muppet Show article. Removing the code caused the entire List of Muppets article to be mirrored in the characters section of that article, which, as I'm you can imagine, was causing a lot of confusion. I added the code some time ago to help tidy up the articles. I was just hoping for some clarification on why you believed it should be removed, I realise it was for a good reason, but I don't know what that is. In the case that there is a problem with the code, I'd like to fix it properly. ~~ Peteb16 (talk) 23:33, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
If statements shouldn't be in articles. In this case does removing the if statement, but keeping the <onlyinclude> statements work? Bgwhite (talk) 00:07, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Thanks again for your sterling work on pages using the officeholder infobox. I wonder whether you might be able to do a bot run to fix cases like this one and likewise for suffixes (e.g. "MP" or "M.P."). Obviously, we can't find them all, but the commonest should be doable.
Yea, this should be no problem. A quick database scan found 4,000 cases of "sir". With this being Christmas week, I probably won't get to it this week. Bgwhite (talk) 23:20, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Either you have alot of time to spare or you are very creative. I'm going with creative. It took me a bit to realize the vacuum reference. I finally got after looking what Hoovian was linked to. My original thought was Hubert Hoover. Remember to watch the new episode tomorrow. It is available for a few weeks on BBC's website. Bgwhite (talk) 07:43, 25 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
There are few stub articles on mountains of Mars where a Google book cited as, see reference 1 of Octantis Mons. But, I don't know what happened but, when I started creating a new article on Mars mountain I found that link is taking you to wrong page. Hence page=136 of all references (URL) need to be replaced with page 63 Can it be done quickly using AWB? --Tito Dutta (talk) 08:46, 25 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I tried to search with wikitext date=1 June 2012|publisher=Springer|isbn=978-1-4614-2302-7|pages=135– and replace with date=1 June 2012|publisher=Springer|isbn=978-1-4614-2302-7|pages=63– but that did not work very well. If it is going to be time taking, then leave it. I'll do it manually when I'll ad NASA images in those articles! There may be more articles, I have quickly searched few from the pages I have created.
First off, you have the syntax wrong. It is not "pages=135-", it should be "page=135".
There is the find and replace feature in AWB. Under "Options" in the bottom-middle window you will find and replace. Click "Normal Settings"
Type what you want to find in the find column: Lets say type in: page=136
Type what you want to replace the above find with in the replace column: In this case: page=63
Click done. Make sure to check "Enabled" on the Options window. Now edit pages. If AWB finds any "page=136", it will replace this value. Bgwhite (talk) 05:43, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Proposed merge Walden Schmidt (Two and a Half Men character) --> Walden Schmidt
You welcome, I think.... I'm not sure what page I helped on. All we can ask is you try. There are a ton of things to learn around here. If you need any help, just ask. Bgwhite (talk) 20:20, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Johannes Pieterse Van Brugh. References are the one of my weak points, I wrote only about a dozen short articles and they are a mess in the ref area. Is there a message board to give a shout and see if anyone is interested? JGVR (talk) 20:55, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure about a message board. Wikipedia:Teahouse is a place for new editors to ask questions.
The good news is that there is an easier way to do the refs, templates. With templates, you don't have to worry about the format of the reference as the template takes care of that for you. I converted Johannes Pieterse Van Brugh to use templates. A reference is at Wikipedia:Citation_templates. I've got the syntax of website, book and newspaper down, but I can't remember journals or other "weird" ones, so I look at the reference page. Bgwhite (talk) 22:07, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the revamp / update of WP:FIX. Not only for the excellent redesign, but for the extremely useful 'database dumps'! To this point I had used Google, which is fine, but the list from the database dump goes much quicker!
You are welcome. Hopefully there will be a lot less false positives. Back in the day, I also fixed and looked for articles via Google. It was frustrating, especially for combinations like "a a". My plan is to do dumps for the rest of them in January, then do updates every 2-3 months or as needed. Give me a yell anytime if you want a dump done or something needs to be tweaked. Thank you for doing most of them. It looks like the heavy lifting has been on your shoulders. Bgwhite (talk) 05:46, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Light Blue -v- Light Blue Pour Homme
Bgwhite, I would like to expand the Light Blue Pour Homme page from being solely about the men's fragrance to being a page about the entire fragrance line. In addition to the original women's fragrance, Dolce & Gabbana has just released Light Blue Living Stromboli--which I would like to include on the page as well. In my opinion, it doesn't make sense to have three separate pages, so what would you think about changing the name of the page from "Light Blue Pour Homme" to "Light Blue (fragrance)"? If you don't think this would be acceptable, I will "undo" my recent changes. Thanks, SchoolMarm101 (talk) 18:46, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It does make sense. A couple of things. "Notes" section should be renamed. Not sure on the name... Other lines? Other frangrences? Product line? Second thing is to mention the other versions in the lede. Bgwhite (talk) 18:53, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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I guess you could report this as a bug. Is this that common though? Is this fixed by running general fixes for a second time? We could keep the "Yes" with the minor exceptions described in the footnote. -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:47, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I address you simply because I found your pawprint on the page Steinvör Sighvatsdotter. I have now translated Google´s machine "translation" of this page, so I hope it is understandable, but it is not readable (I fear) so any help to improve the language will be highly appreciated.
Since I do not know how to do it myself I wonder if you could change the name of this article from Steinvör Sighvatsdotter to Steinvör Sighvatsdóttir? There are Swedish, Danish and Norwegian forms of this name, but on English Wp I think that the Icelandic form should be used. (She was an Icelander.) There are of course other questions, such as should her name be spelled Steinvǫr or Steinvör? Since she lived in the 13th C and Finnur Jónsson used the spelling Steinvör I suggest this is the best choice. The second question is whether her patronymicon should be spelled Sighvatsdóttir or Sigvatsdóttir. Finnur Jónsson prefered the second spelling, but the Icelandic Wp has the first. My own feeling is that it doesn´t matter, but that a redirect page should cover the alternative.
I would have liked to give more references, but the Kålund edition of the Sturlunga Saga has no page numbers, and at present the sagas I would have refered to in Guðni Jónsson´s web version are red-linked. As soon as they become blue I will be able to give more source references. (http://www.heimskringla.no/wiki/Sturlunga_saga ) I wrote the original article on the Swedish Wp and had no intention to write it in English since my knowledge of your language is negligable. But someone who spells her name Marika backwards introduced it on en:wp, and since I did not understand Google´s machine translation of my own words, I felt compelled to write a translation of the translation. I wonder if you could also change the name of the page Holldóra Tumadóttir into Halldóra Tumadóttir, which is the correct spelling. I suppose I will have to translate this article too, because the machine translation is (hopefully) more worthless than I am and Aciram/Marika completely missed the point. Halldóra was not an important person, she was just a pawn in the game. I almost wept when I wrote that article (in Swedish) but perhaps I managed to keep it sufficiently neutral and unemotional since Aciram did not see the point. I meant Halldóra´s life as an example of the tragedy of the Icelandic civil war that cut right through her heart, killing her own children and relatives on both sides. Best wishes and Happy New Year and may there be peace. Srv.rosen (talk) 18:21, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much. I am now sobering up after New years's eve. I wonder, could you also move the page Holldóra Tumadóttir to Halldóra Tumadóttir? Holldóra is a misspelling. It should be spelled Halldóra (with an "a"). If you do not believe me you could check with the Icelandic wp is:Halldóra Tumadóttir. Best wishes Srv.rosen (talk) 08:45, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Bgwhite,
Just noticed that one of your edits accidentally cut the closing curly braces off a reflist template on Alan Grayson. You can see the diff of your edit here: [2]
I've fixed the broken reflist, but you might want to have a look through your recent edits in case it also happened elsewhere.
The table is good closed after the use of next templates. Please, improve your bot with this observation.
Thanks, tot-futbol (talk) 3 January 2012 12:57 UTC
Dear Bgwhite, Thanks for taking an interest in my "Almost finished" biography article on Sergio Franchi. I know that I still have a lot to learn, but your edit moved my "Notes" section from the paragraph to which it referred (CDs) to a separate section. I hope nothing else has been changed.Cathlec (talk) 13:06, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
First part of the summary says "(WP:CHECKWIKI) error fix for #61. Punctuation goes before References." In the article, it fixed "<ref name=IGD></ref>." There was a period after a ref that the bot fixed. It is hard to notice the change in the diff.
Please stop doing the same edits to Óró sé do bheatha abhaile after I revert them. The HTML is deliberately left in the quoted text in the reference and the other reference which you keep deleting is a valid web page and a useful citation. I don't know why Wikipedia's spam filter doesn't like it, but it is a false positive.
If you wish to put a case for reverting my second reversion of your edits, please do so on the talk page for the article.
First off, the last one was a manual edit. Please read WP:BLACKLIST on how to add a blacklisted link. However, the link you are adding is unreliable and shouldn't be used. HTML shouldn't be used where an equivalent wikicode is found... the page will be added to CheckWiki page and will continually be overridden. Bgwhite (talk) 17:31, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I just did a database scan so I can fix the ones I messed up. FYI... There are a total of 154 articles that use <font lang and 380,000 that use {{lang}}. Bgwhite (talk) 08:20, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There was no # symbol before the edit, so I didn't add one. The template should contain the # symbol and not the article. If the template contains the name of of a colour, adding a # before it in the article breaks things. I'll remember if I come across another Hong Kong subway article, it is done wrong and adjust. Bgwhite (talk) 02:16, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
the issue is that the symbol is not required for <font color=>, but it is for <span style="color:">. compare
Per WP:MCSTJR, there cannot be ligatured or accented letters. It changed São to -> Sao in DEFAULTSORT and the sort values that were previously added into the categories. Bgwhite (talk) 17:36, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I initiated a discussion [5] over the differences in our interpretations of the requirement that sources be independent. 17:17, 10 January 2013 (UTC)Geo Swan (talk)
Two things come to mind. 1) Do you have a default browser set? 2) You are running an older version of AWB. Maybe there is a bug? Get version 8853 here. Bgwhite (talk) 20:13, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Being logged into the website doesn't help with logging into AWB.
Hmmm, did you install the new version into a clean directory and logged out of the old? I can't think of anything else. If still a problem ask at AWB's talk page. Bgwhite (talk) 20:38, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
From the time I started up the bot to when Bencherlite contacted me about it, the bot had run ~90 minutes. So, there are probably ~200-250 articles with messed up edit summaries. Bushranger's page edit came in before Bencherlite's notice. Thanks again Bencherlite. It wouldn't have been pretty if it was still continuing. Bgwhite (talk) 22:34, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I had problems downloading the database dump with my sloooooooow intenet connection and I ve also been busy irl. I'll be back in the game soon. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:38, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
something went wrong here, not all the lang templates are closed. clearly they were screwed up to start with, but the screw up wasn't as visible. Frietjes (talk) 00:30, 11 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for catching it. I'm doing these manually and do preview the page before saving. Don't know how I didn't catch that one. Bgwhite (talk) 00:36, 11 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
