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The Bugle: Issue LXXXVII, June 2013

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Play-Doh protection

Hi Kafziel, I see that you indefinitely full protected Play-Doh after some edit warring in April. Do you think that the full protection is still needed? Would you be willing to switch to semi-protection? Mark Arsten (talk) 19:10, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

 Done - You bet. Fully unprotected. Looks like the discussion fizzled immediately after that, so maybe the edit war died with it. Kafziel ^{Complaint Department: Please take a number} 19:16, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Alright, thanks! Mark Arsten (talk) 19:17, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXXVIII, July 2013

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The Conjuring

Regarding The Conjuring (film), I see that you moved it to The Conjuring. However, Talk:The Conjuring does not point to the film article's talk page. (I'm not sure what article that talk page belongs to.) There is also a RM discussion at Talk:The Conjuring (film) that needs to be closed. Thanks, Erik (talk | contribs) 15:48, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Wow, that's odd. I wonder why the talk page didn't move with the article. Well, it's fixed now. I'll close the RM, too. Kafziel ^{Complaint Department: Please take a number} 20:21, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing it! :) Erik (talk | contribs) 13:01, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

FOREST LAWN MEMORIAL-PARKS Dr. Hubert L. Eaton

Thanks for your response. I think you should reconsider including my addition to this site. The site I enclosed, www.huberteaton.com is an important link relating to the history of Forest Lawn Memorial-Parks. This site is about the esteemed founder of Forest Lawn, Dr. Hubert L. Eaton. Please open this site and read all of the contents. Please let me know what you think. This is certainly NOT spam or advertising! THANKS! DANIEL H. DISNEY (Daniel Disney (talk) 21:06, 16 August 2013 (UTC)).

Well, it kind of is advertising, if you think about it - you're trying to get people to go to that website. A website that contains information that is not verified, and in which you obviously have a personal interest. I'm not saying it's untrue or anything like that, but it wouldn't be considered a reliable source, and Wikipedia's focus is to give our readers independently verifiable information here, not send them to other sites. Giving people links to other sites is what Google is for.

I hope you'll believe me when I say it's nothing personal. I love Forest Lawn. Kafziel ^{Complaint Department: Please take a number} 21:48, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

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Dr. Hubert L. Eaton/Forest Lawn pages

Dear Kafziel, Thank you for your notice! I am not an experienced contributor to Wikipedia. But, the website submitted contains much information relevant to Forest Lawn and Dr. Eaton. I am not "promoting" a website! Please re-review my submission and let me hear from you. THANK YOU! (Daniel Disney (talk) 20:24, 22 August 2013 (UTC))

Dr. Eaton and Forest Lawn

Dear Kafziel: I just left you a message relating to Dr. Eaton and Forest Lawn. This is not my website but another member of my family who worked with Dr. Eaton for many, many years. Just wanted to clarify this with you.(Daniel Disney (talk) 20:29, 22 August 2013 (UTC))

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September 2013

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WikiProject Military history coordinator election

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Talk:Footpaths of Gibraltar

Not all rules are absolute. I used common sense and judgment, and approving a disputed nomination is prejudicial. By the way, I invite you to improve consensus on merger proposal. --George Ho (talk) 17:16, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

I'm not saying all rules are absolute. I'm saying that no such rule even exists. You can't just make up a rule and decide you're going to apply it as you see fit. I don't know what "approving a disputed nomination is prejudicial" even means, but, as you say, not all rules are absolute. So I don't really have to care. This whole situation is really starting to look like harassment to me. Kafziel ^{Complaint Department: Please take a number} 19:05, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Saying in an edit summary that you are not "juvenile and petty"[1] is rather, well, you can guess what probably... Fram (talk) 13:18, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

I thought you'd like that. Kafziel ^{Complaint Department: Please take a number} 13:42, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

I'm glad you intended it that way :-) Fram (talk) 13:48, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

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DYK for National War Dog Cemetery

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Books and Bytes: The Wikipedia Library Newsletter

Books and Bytes

Volume 1, Issue 1, October 2013

by The Interior (talk · contribs), Ocaasi (talk · contribs)

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Lyman Ward Clergyman

Kafziel, thanks for moving the article into the encyclopedia. Unfortunately, I could not find it in a search. Does it take time to update or is there some other problem? I searched using lyman ward clergyman to no avail. I edited the header to distinguish the actor and the general.

Thanks for your kind thoughts and admonition to be bold. This is my first effort and I did not want to create a stub and theonesean's editorial critique helped me write a stronger article. Regarding the addition of categories. I wrote the article with a number of them based on the articles of other clergy I researched but I would appreciate any suggestions that I did not consider. Mainly, Ward is a clergyman but he was also a politician so perhaps I imagine that I can designate political categories because he was interesting as a liberal Republican. Thanks for your help, ~~Crawford Rose~~

Happy to help! I adjusted the "see also" that I think you were going for (I created a disambiguation page) and I'll take a look at the categories. Kafziel ^{Complaint Department: Please take a number} 19:14, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

4th Marine Expeditionary Brigade

Thank you, Marine, for taking the action that you did with the article. I have learned NEVER to submit articles to the AFC because they seem to stay there forever and molder. Perfectly good articles with citations and content are rejected routinely because someone (twit?) at AFC "just doesn't get it".

I didn't create the article, but the person who did asked for some help, so I pitched-in and reorganized the references and citations as well as some content. Now the article can live and breathe on its own merits. It still needs work, but possibly more people will work on it now that it isn't tied up in "limbo". I will "watch" the article for a while and see how it progresses; hopefully some Marine Wikipedian will take the ball and run with it...but if they don't, if this Coast Guardsman has the time, I will try to shape it up to B class standards.

Semper Fidelis and Semper Paratus;

Cuprum17,

CPO Edward W. Jones, USCGR (ret)
US Army Vietnam, 1966-1968
US Coast Guard Reserve, 1989-2007
Cuprum17 (talk) 19:57, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Good to meet you! Glad I could help. The AFC backlog is ridiculous, so I'm moving them into the article space to let them sink or swim. Crazy how many perfectly fine articles are just sitting there, forgotten. They've done a great job of fooling everyone into thinking they have some kind of authority, when it's really just another wikiproject. So some bureaucrats are less than pleased with me for ignoring all their procedural stuff, but I'm a firm believer that our first job should always be writing the encyclopedia. Damn the torpedoes. Kafziel ^{Complaint Department: Please take a number} 22:18, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

why did you delete this???!???

you deleted a page that i made for a local wrestler i'm a fan of

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manic%28wrestler%29

even after i posted a link to his facehook to prove he is a real person , why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wrestlingfan64 (talk • contribs) 21:28, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Being a real person isn't enough to justify a Wikipedia article. See our notability guidelines for more information on that. Most importantly, though, biographies of living people require reliable sources. Your article was tagged for deletion for more than 10 days with no reliable sources, so it was deleted (along with many others). It's nothing personal. Kafziel ^{Complaint Department: Please take a number} 21:44, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

i did?

i posted a link to his facebook to prove he was a real person , i looked up info on how to prove it's a real person and one option was link a facebook and i did that , and it was still deleted..

RE:

i did?

i posted a link to his facebook to prove he was a real person , i looked up info on how to prove it's a real person and one option was link a facebook and i did that , and it was still deleted.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wrestlingfan64 (talk • contribs) 06:04, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

All you have to do is click the links I provided above, to see what kind of sources are required. I can't force you to read them if you don't want to, but I will tell you right now, Facebook is not on the list. Anyone can make a Facebook page. Again - you don't just have to prove he exists, you have to prove he's important. Kafziel ^{Complaint Department: Please take a number} 12:25, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

TestAuditor

Hi I see you have deleted a page called TestAuditor. The reason provided is "Unambiguous advertising or promotion". However this is not the case. Is so then all the products in issue tracking system would be also promotional.

The article is covering a product that is one of these issue tracking systems and they can only be added to a list like this is there is an article.

There are real benefits from users in knowing what is available in the market. The article in the next generation of the product QCReporting. Please can you explain how the article could be seen as "Unambiguous advertising or promotion" or are you ok for me to give it another try?

SamBardon (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:42, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

I deleted it as unambiguous advertising or promotion because it was unambiguous advertising or promotion. "Letting users know what's available in the market" is the very definition of advertising. Articles for Creation is a place to create legitimate articles, not to host spam indefinitely. If you plan to "give it another try", I suggest you read this first. Kafziel ^{Complaint Department: Please take a number} 15:03, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

OK, I take your point, but all articles on Wiki issue tracking system will also let user know what is in the market. Are they all advertising? Or is the TestAuditor article just letting user know there is a 'next stage' for QCReporting? Because users have a right to know the old QCReporting product has been superseded by a new one. Can you explain how it is advertising campared to other products in the issue tracking system list. If I were to create it without code or much information would that be ok to you? SamBardon (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:26, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Skimlinks

Hi, thanks for reviewing my article over at Articles for creation. However, it seems that instead of giving it a submission denied template, you deleted the content altogether. Can you please reinstate it with the appropriate template so that I can build on the article and make it suitable for Wikipedia? Also, I understand from this talk page that you have a certain dislike for "procedural stuff" but this was the first article I created and seeing it deleted with no notice whatsoever was extremely unpleasant. Getting some proper feedback and a note on my talk page notifying me of the deletion as stated in the project would have been appreciated.

I've posted the same comment/request over at the project's talk page if you want to comment on there as well. Juniper4589 (talk) 15:00, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Fair enough. I'll make you a compromise - I'll restore it, but not back into AfC. I'll put it into the article space and let it go through Articles for Deletion instead. If it passes, cool. Kafziel ^{Complaint Department: Please take a number} 15:10, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate you taking the time to do that. Why will you not restore it in AfC though? I purposely used AfC to submit it because I knew the risks involved in writing an article about a company in terms of it sounding too promotional (plus it's my first time creating an article and I really was looking forward to getting constructive feedback). I tried to make it sound as "non-advertisy" as possible - I realise you're probably very busy but would you mind re-instating it AfC and pointing out which bits I need to work on? I was aiming to emulate the tone of Mind Candy and VigLink; are those not good examples for companies of Skimlinks' size and industry? Thanks! Juniper4589 (talk) 15:20, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm not putting it in AfC because I don't believe articles should just be allowed to sit out there indefinitely. I'm tired of hearing about the AfC backlog, so I'm taking care of it myself. We are supposed to be writing an encyclopedia that anyone can edit; articles should be created in the article space and edited by the whole community. You are free to edit it in the article space along with everyone else. Kafziel ^{Complaint Department: Please take a number} 15:24, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

If it makes you feel any better, I won't be arguing the AfD nomination. I'm leaving it up to the community to decide, and you'll probably get feedback there if you want it. Kafziel ^{Complaint Department: Please take a number} 15:29, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

I see your point, but I see the AfC more as a training ground for people like me who don't feel confident enough in their article writing skills to create a full blown article from the start. It allows us to write something in a safe environment, safe from deletion, and with the support we need to do something good. If that involves waiting a few weeks for feedback, I personally don't mind! I'm assuming it's also a form of quality control for Wikipedia, to filter as many bad articles as possible... Anyways, I guess I'll just comment on the article's deletion page from now on and wait for feedback. Juniper4589 (talk) 18:16, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm sure you don't mind waiting a few weeks, but AfC has a backlog of 2,000 articles (not to mention the ridiculous tens of thousands of expired and declined reviews) so at some point, you have to sink or swim. All of Wikipedia is a "safe environment" in terms of collaboration, and no part of it is safe from deletion. AfC is meant to be basic quality control; a way for anonymous users (who can't create new articles) to work on them and have someone else post them. It's not meant to be a training ground, or a secret spot to get articles to Featured status or something. If it's good enough to survive a speedy deletion (and, after a certain point, even if it isn't) it's time to put it out in the world. Every article on Wikipedia is a work in progress. Kafziel ^{Complaint Department: Please take a number} 18:22, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of Damaris Richardson article

You obviously didn't read the article properly.

"He" was a she.

Twat. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wunt-be-Druv (talk • contribs) 18:05, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Gee, ya got me there. Kafziel ^{Complaint Department: Please take a number} 18:24, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Please use the proper procedure for aproving drafts at AfC

You recently did a simple move of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Verbal Behavior Milestones Assessment and Placement Program to Verbal Behavior Milestones Assessment and Placement Program instead of using the AFCH script. As a result a number of processes such as automatic cleanup, placement of Categories and WikiProject templates, etc. were not done. In future please use the proper procedure, manually performing the tasks the script normally does takes a lot of unnecessary time and effort. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:39, 23 November 2013 (UTC)