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Thanks! Now fixed. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:08, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

I love you!

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	I love you!!!!!!!!!!!! LZNQBD (talk) 20:34, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

I am not sure what prompted that (and it did make me think a little of this) ... but thank you, LZNQBD. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:48, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Youtube is filtered in my country. I can't see this video.LZNQBD (talk) 06:45, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

I love u too cheater Sablondee (talk) 20:28, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

John Baring (1730-1816)

Late yesterday, I made two changes to the John Baring (1730-1816) article. The first was to link "Larkbeare" to an article in nl:Wikipedia on that small Devon village. The second was to remove the "II" from the article title.

Looking at the article history today, I see that in my first edit I apparently made very extensive changes, mostly deletions. I can believe that I may have made deletions through incompetence; but I am also credited with adding material, e.g. "son of clothier", which I am sure I could not have added.

As you also worked on the article yesterday, and are an admin, I am hoping you may be able to understand, and if appropriate reverse, the changes which have been credited to me. Maproom (talk) 07:45, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Maproom

Mistakes happen!

The simplest way out is to revert your edit, which I have done. That restores all the deleted material. Feel free to edit the article again to add other the other material.

Note that I have moved the page to John Baring (1730–1816), using an endash for the date range.

|Good luck. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 07:59, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for repairing the damage. Thank you also for your non-judgmental "Mistakes happen!" Maproom (talk) 10:22, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

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All now fixed. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:00, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of James Balfour (died 1845)

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DYK nomination of James Blair (MP)

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Talk:Let It Go (Disney song)

A person called chasewc91 claimed there had been a consensus before I joined the discussion "Idina Menzel's single. However there is no one there who agrees with him. Still he abruptly edits the infobox to the form he likes. Could you please tell me if his claim is valid? (P.S. Quenhitran, one of the users who discussed with him prior to me, agrees with him that the claim is false.) Thanks.Forbidden User (talk) 08:54, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Forbidden User

First point is that it seems that an edit war may be developing between you and chasewc91. If that continues, then both of you risk being blocked. Either of you can stop it, and I suggest you do so.

The dispute appears to be about whether to use {{infobox single}} or {{infobox song}}. There has been at least one case recently at WP:ARBCOM about infoboxes, and you may find that special sanctions apply to them. So best to act very cautiously, and remember that there is no deadline: it needs to be right, but it dosen't need to be right right now :)

I suggest an WP:RFC to resolve this. Ideally, you and chase should work together to develop a neutral summary of the dispute. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:36, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. By the way, there is an inactive discussion about whether to retain Wikipedia:Polling is not a substitute for discussion as a guideline at its talk page. When will it be closed?Forbidden User (talk) 13:45, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

If you think it needs to be closed, you can list it at WP:AN/RFC. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:47, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Hey there

In case you are interested in this CFD (Massacres of men). I voted to delete and cited your long experience with the use of subjective terminology in categories dating back years now, which, btw, we have usually won the debates. So, take a look, if you like. Yours, Quis separabit? 00:14, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi RMS, thanks for the notification.

I don't have time to weigh on that topic at the length it deserves, so I will probably give it a miss.

FWIW, my initial reaction is there a bundle of inter-related complexities in that discussion, and that good points are being made on both sides. You make a good point about the subjectivity of the term "massacre", which is a highly-loaded word. (Is it in WP:WTA? If not, it should be.) However, I think that an even more critical point is whether it is viable to try to enforce a distinction between massacres of men and massacres targetted at men because of their gender. Without that distinction, the category is useless; but unless a boundary can be reliably and objectively determined, then we are back in the old problem of subjective categorisation. As you and I have repeatedly argued, that's a place to be avoided.

However, I do think it is important that new angles of scholarship, such as research into gendered violence, are included in Wikipedia. Doing so is difficult, because definitions remain fluid and contested (and often highly politicised), and in those situations lists are a much better device, because they facilitate better referencing and explanation of any inclusion. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:13, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

OK, Thanks for the insight. I always like learning new things, or at least new ways of looking at things, from you. Quis separabit? 01:17, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Rms, and thanks for participating, and thanks BHG for your thoughts above. Just a few thoughts - 1) We have a whole Category:Massacres tree, and a Massacre article, I don't think ultimately that massacre is that subjective, or at least it hasn't prevented us from having oodles of massacre categories, so using that word as a reason to delete this one category isn't quite fair, IMHO. 2) As to BHG's point, I agree, it is important to not just have massacres where men were killed. Instead, as the inclusion criteria states, this is for massacres where men and boys are explicitly separated from the women prior to being killed - thus their gender is the main determining factor, and the literature calls this gender-based violence. The literature also calls these incidents sex-selective massacres or gendercides, and if you search for that term you will find a number of sources that discuss this and the particular risk men are exposed to in conflict zones (plenty of sources on the talk page of the category). There is even a book published on this subject specifically. It's actually rather rare to have a sex-selective massacre of women, on the other hand, and amongst all massacres that I've looked through in the wiki, most of them aren't sex-selective, so at least in our coverage it's a tiny minority that fit in this category. I only found around 20 instances that fit the category for now, and that have the distinctive trait of men and boys being separated from the women and then massacred, many of them are well-known instances, and defined as such in the lede (e.g. The massacre of X was the killing of the entire male population of village Y). It was a common technique in the Kosovo mess, and we're now seeing it used by Boko Haram (although, sometimes they just kill everyone). Anyway, if you do choose to weigh in would love your thoughts BHG, as you know I always like your input, even when we disagree :)--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 01:44, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Obi, and thanks for your kind words. You give good debate, and I too enjoy those debates, whether or not we are on the same side.

Problem is, I am up to my neck in content. I hadn't been doing enough content creation recently, so I have been busy trying to create stubs on British MPs again. Unfortunately, too many of what I think are gonna be obscure lobby-fodder turn out to be rather more complex characters, with a lot more to say than born elected, died.

For example, one turned out to be an unscrupulously successful nabob who bribed his way into Parliament. Another turned to be a nabob who founded a minor dynasty, and had a brother who was an mildly interesting B-grade architect. Another one loomed up into prominence as a record-holding state-subsidised slave-owner, and the latest turns out to be a noted Edwardian imperialist with some unstereotypical ideas.

Damn these people for having such interesting lives ;)

Gotta wrap that latest one up before my browser explodes again from too many open tabs, and then maybe I'll weigh in at CFD :) --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:24, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

400,000 edits!

I know editcountitis is so 2005, but still, this is your 400,000th edit. Which either means a lack of life or commitment to the project. :P Sceptre ^(talk) 05:04, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Sceptre!

I think I will pass on which of the 2 options this is :)

But look at which page was changed in that 400,000th edit. Eek! --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:04, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

A large star-shaped barn to you. Victuallers (talk) 16:19, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, Victuallers. That's very kind.

My existing barn has an infirm roof, so I can make good use of the new one :) --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:23, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

400K?! Wow, I was excited that I was closing in on 50k. Chillum ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 16:23, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK for James Blair (MP)

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DYK nomination of Eustace Balfour

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RPP - Urgent Request

Battleground (2014) is being heavily vandalized. There's an WP:RPP already, but we can barely keep up with the vandalism. Thought I'd ask an admin who's currently online to step in. Thank you. EvergreenFir (talk) 06:01, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Fully protected for 1 week. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:09, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

Thanks for responding so quickly to my request! EvergreenFir (talk) 06:08, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, EvergreenFir! It will make a tasty addition to my breakfast :) --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:10, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

If you have a chance, WWE Battleground could use a PP was well. EvergreenFir (talk) 06:31, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Done, in these 2 edits. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:35, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks again! EvergreenFir (talk) 06:44, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello! Do you think you could also give these 3 pages permanent semi-protection? :) They are always getting vandalized and it really irritates me. List of current champions in WWE, WWE World Heavyweight Championship, and List of WWE World Heavyweight Champions These pages have needed protection for a long time. FlawlessViper (talk) 10:24, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi FlawlessViper

I am happy to respond quickly to a request here if the situation is urgent, as it was with Battleground (2014).

However, in other cases I prefer that pages get listed at WP:RFPP, where the request can be more widely scrutinised.

The problem you cite here is non-urgent, so WP:RFPP is the place to go. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:28, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK for James Balfour (died 1845)

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Please help

Please have a look at this and help if possible, I have no idea who to turn to with this so I'm trying to contact more experienced Wikipedians.

--Samotny Wędrowiec (talk) 22:51, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your message, Samotny Wędrowiec.

I read it, but read no further. I am sure than you mean well, and what you have written may be a great summary of the situation; I will reserve judgement on that. But unless you provide more specific examples of what you think is going wrong, and who exactly you think are this "Polish Wiki mafia" are, then it's really just a rant. That is very strong language to use about other editors, and I hope that you have evidence to justify it.

May I suggest that you take the time to write an explanation of what has been happening, with less rhetoric and name-calling and more specific examples? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:08, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much for replying and sorry for being so vague. I have previously put all of my effort into pushing for positive change, but my edits just kept getting reverted and everyone else seemed to ignore it so I am very tired of it all. The vast majority of those reverts were carried out on the basis of someone's point of view rather than actual guidelines (most of the time those who kept reverting my edits refused to take part in discussion and often left no reason for reverting either).

If you look at Talk:Poland#Central.2FEastern_edit_war?Talk:Poland, you will see that at first there is clear consensus in the discussion and only one person disagrees, providing almost no arguments in comparison to my input. The discussion carries on for longer than a month, it mostly consists of my points for making the changes. At some point this part of the talk page was vandalized, twice I believe. Whenever I tried to edit the actual page for Poland, even with the consensus at the talk page, the same individuals as before kept reverting it. After this continued harassment and the seemingly blind eye of the admins to these events, I lost patience and for the first time used offensive language on Wikipedia and insulted others. It was a conscious yet impulsive decision on my part as I wanted to be banned at that time, having had enough of it all. Seeing that my post at the discussion was not enough, I vandalized several pages and acted in a similar manner at the Polish Wikipedia. This is why I was banned. After some time away from editing, I appealed and was unbanned as the admins/moderators seemed to understand.

More recently I put my effort into this: Geography_of_Poland#Eastern_or_Central_Europe.3F and then changed the article of Poland to say that it is in Eastern or Central Europe, linking this to the subsection of the geography article that I wrote. I didn't post about this change at the talk page, since at this point I have enough experience to know that it makes no difference whatsoever - even when others agree with you. My edits have already been reverted, but thankfully they have not yet removed Geography_of_Poland#Eastern_or_Central_Europe.3F. Once again, sorry for being so vague, but the evidence is all there in the edit history for the Poland article and its talk page. All it takes is for someone to read it. This is why I went straight for the admins this time. The only way to really understand my frustration with this would be by reading Talk:Poland#Central.2FEastern_edit_war?Talk:Poland, but I know that no one has the time or will to do this. This is why everyone I've tried to contact about this just treats me like some kind of eccentric. As for those who keep edit warring, I remember only Powertranz and Xx236, but there were more. I wouldn't be surprised if they had a history of warnings/bans too. Anyway, I believe the reaction to my recent edit to link the new subsection at Geography of Poland to the Poland article is at least enough to prove there must be some truth to what I recently posted at Talk:Poland, even if it won't help you understand my behaviour.

--Samotny Wędrowiec (talk) 00:02, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Alexander Mackay (British Army officer)

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I don't know if you are watching my talk page. ww2censor (talk) 14:57, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the talkback, ww2c. These days I tend to rely on WP:PINGs to notify me of conversations, rather than the watchlist, so I hadn't spotted your reply on your talk.

I have replied there. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:06, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

I'll have to start pinningggggg! ww2censor (talk) 15:19, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

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Malicious Activity

I see that you have edited my page before, Thank You! I also see that you have the option to ban IP Address's. There seems to be someone who over the years has continued to maliciously edited my page. Their IP Address has been banned before. Whenever they do get a new address they start again. Will you please block their new IP 74.70.123.60 Thank You in advance. Michael — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krellman (talk • contribs) 17:15, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Krellman, when you write "my page" I read that as meaning either User:Krellman or User talk:Krellman. However, User:Krellman does not exist, and the most recent edit to User talk:Krellman was by you, in January 2010.

I see that 74.70.123.60 (talk · contribs) has performed only 2 edits, both in March 2013 to the page Michael Zarnock, both of which were promptly promptly reverted. Warnings were left at User talk:74.70.123.60.

There is no reason to block an IP in this situation. And why do you claim that Michael Zarnock is your page? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:26, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. I reference "Michael Zarnock" as "My Page" because the Krellman Group is owned by Michael Zarnock and we here at Krellman do the editing. Krellman is our log-in name and is how we go about editing that page and other social media. If we see any other name or bot, then we know to look into it. This person (we do have their name and physical address) has indeed edited the page before. We have their past IP address's that have also been banned. We just corrected what he changed today and then updated small things on the page. He edited the page (03:06, 9 June 2014‎ 74.70.101.117) You may contact us at KrellmanGroup@aol.com if you have any further questions. Thank you again!

A barnstar for you!

Thank you, OccultZone.

That's very kind of you, and delightfully colourful. My favourite barnstar so far :) --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:39, 3 July 2014 (UTC)