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Proposed temporary injunctions

OccultZone restricted

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OccultZone is prohibited from personally approaching any user in relation to any matter raised in this case via Wikipedia email or on their user talk pages without obtaining the express permission of the Committee on-wiki. This restriction will expire after a final decision has been posted in this case.

Proposed, as I don't see how the community can maintain the belief in good faith that this case will bring about the final resolution expected from this step in dispute resolution (which arbitrators have properly indicated), when the very conduct complained of in relation to OccultZone persists without any action for yet another fortnight or longer. More administrators are being approached about the same dispute being arbitrated through continued inappropriate notification [1] (administrator JzG) [2] (administrator EdJohnston), and as he is not receptive to earlier feedback, a temporary injunction is needed. Ncmvocalist (talk) 16:36, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

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I'm minded to enact this, with the understanding that it does not prejudge the case. Thryduulf (talk) 21:35, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

So moved, on the PD page. Courcelles (talk) 19:15, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

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Ncmvocalist Do you know that there are provisions for a ARC ban if you continued to misrepresent my conversations, especially where you are not involved? I don't see how anyone can maintain good faith in your misrepresentation below, when you omits the full story[3] in order to request a temporary injunction and misrepresents rather an advice as 'approach'.[4] Anyone is allowed to ask for an advice about actions that have taken place. How come you even requested for a ban on email when there is no evidence of use of email? OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 16:46, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

@Thryduulf: Sorry, but would you tell how it is wrong to ask for an advice related to the policy/provision that could be related to any of these events? Especially when such discussions took only some minutes to resolve. One has to be assured before making an statement, correct? It is likely that making a one liner misstatement is going to cause trouble than making a correct statement. In fact, I am not alone to make discussion before submitting, we have people related with this case who are doing the same.[5][6] If you still believe that I did it wrong, then I must say that I wasn't aware, and it won't happen again. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 00:28, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

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To add, I don't have any issue if @JzG: and @EdJohnston: reviewed the case evidence or the comments here and felt my proposal is unnecessary or inappropriate; this notification will give them an opportunity to comment on it. It would be beneficial if we had some arbitrators commenting on this page too; I'm certainly not interested in being consumed in the WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT territory that other parties or users have needed to endure during the case so far. Ncmvocalist (talk) 17:14, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

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Magioladitis restricted

2) Magioladitis is banned from participating on this ARC. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 08:04, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

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Prohibiting someone from participating in a request for arbitration is a rarely taken action for someone who is not a sockpuppet, vandal or ibanned, and I'm not seeing the level of disruption necessary to do anything here. We will of course weigh the relevance of his evidence and behaviour, and that may if necessary lead to sanctions in the proposed decision. Thryduulf (talk) 09:42, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

• I see your allegations that Magioladitis has been economical with the truth, but I do not think that the allegations rise to the level of removing them from the case at this time. --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 16:34, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

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In the light of this prediction that he made only for disparaging me, I have to propose this. He is not listed as a party, but due to his support for Bgwhite,(RFA nomination) and habit of checking my contribution history. Check his editor interactions with Bgwhite and me.(see minutes, seconds) He is clearly disrupting this ARC and its outcome since its beginning. I cannot find any single productive edit. His edits:-

Accusations with no evidence,[7] they include wholly incorrect claims. Example: "1 admin tbanned him temporarily" everyone knows that the T-ban was indefinite.[8]

Referring AC/DS notification[9] as "disruptive behavior"[10] after violating BLP.[11]

Trying to protect a long term blocked sock[12] just because the sock happened to be my opponent.[13]

Off-topic discussions,[14] because we were discussing wheel warring, not unblocking conditions.

Inventing new ideas.[15] "Email ban" never took place on en.wiki, ever.

Since he is only attempting to defame me with incorrect information, and to prevent further disruption and maintain decorum, I find it to be a good idea to ask a ban on him from this ARC. Finally this case is not going to effect him. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 08:04, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

@Thryduulf wasn't really aware of that, but thanks. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 11:44, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

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OZ proposes ban for "Off-topic discussion" (which are not off-topic" and my propasal was already discussed by ArbCom members) and for "Inventing new ideas". Seriously now? -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:45, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

I wonder why OccultZone asked for me to be restricted and later tried to involved me in this case by adding things about me in the evidence page. And the text was added after the expiration of the time limit to present evidence in the case. Moreover, nothing seems to be related in the case. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:52, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

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Proposed final decision

Proposals by User:Worm That Turned

Proposed principles

Purpose of Wikipedia

1) The purpose of Wikipedia is to create a high-quality, free-content encyclopedia in an atmosphere of camaraderie and mutual respect among contributors. Use of the site for other purposes, such as advocacy or propaganda or furtherance of outside conflicts is prohibited. Contributors whose actions are detrimental to that goal may be asked to refrain from them, even when these actions are undertaken in good faith.

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Proposed - standard Worm^TT(talk) 17:52, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

They are usually considered when there is some kind of conduct, related with handling the content disputes. It cannot be found in this case. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 02:06, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

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Yep. Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:48, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Consensus

2) Wikipedia works by building consensus. This is done through the use of polite discussion involving the wider community, if necessary, and dispute resolution, rather than through disruptive editing. Dispute resolution should generally be handled in a single forum where possible. Raising the same or similar issues with multiple administrators, in the hope of finding the answer you want, hampers the development of consensus.

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Proposed - combined standard consensus building with WP:ADMINSHOP Worm^TT(talk) 17:52, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

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Not quite sure about the way this is framed and if it's quite right, though I appreciate the thinking behind why it was proposed. Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:36, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

All that said, it is apparent the more detailed (and perhaps standard) principle under this heading will be needed given the rather unusual justification given on this page for "global consensus". Ncmvocalist (talk) 10:56, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Administrators

3) Administrators are trusted members of the community, and are expected to perform their duties to the best of their abilities; to behave in a respectful and civil manner in their interactions with others; to follow Wikipedia policies; to lead by example; and to learn from experience and from justified criticisms of their actions. Occasional mistakes are entirely compatible with adminship; administrators are not expected to be perfect.

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From Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Rich Farmbrough Worm^TT(talk) 17:52, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

What about it OccultZone? Worm^TT(talk) 11:40, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

The committee is quite happy to admonish admins, strip them of the user-right or even ban them - there's lots of examples too, even in the past couple of years. Oddly, your argument that people don't criticise admins is exactly why I got involved in this case in the first place. I looked into everything in depth and made comments as to things that could be improved with admins, where I saw it. The case isn't black and white and could have been avoided by nipping things in the bud early on. Worm^TT(talk) 12:09, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Worm That Turned you still remember everything about this case? OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 11:36, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

About one year ago I had read it. Here or there I have found it interesting that administrators are favored or never even warned. A person saves a possible chance of getting blocked if he/she is friendly with some active admin of the area where problems are likely going to show up. Fram had overturned 3 months block of Kiefer, and also warned Ironholds. He is so far the only one I know, frequent with that approach. The case that you have cited above was mostly because of him as well. Because of the rarity of these needful actions we continue to see problems with the administrative actions. Agree? OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 11:55, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

WTT: That's correct. Another thing is that this is by far the only incident where I needed to adminshop because concern was with admin actions and such adminshopping had a comfortable rise when I mentioned the t-ban that you had imposed, and they felt like they would be doing something against you if they helped me, even after knowing that it was pretty easy to. Such factors are often ignored, but they have a major impact. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 13:05, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

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Yep. Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:48, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

I agree. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:34, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

@OccultZone: I'm not seeing evidence of poor judgement by Swarm, Bgwhite, Worm That Turned (or any other admin) in this case. I see, at the absolute worst, sensible administrative decisions that, with hindsight, haven't had the intended effect, but I see administrative actions daily that don't have quite the intended effect, so this case is far from unique. In this case, there's no evidence of poor judgement from any of the administrators accused here, the blocks, unblocks, page protections and topic bans, at the time they were imposed, were valid, sensible, acceptable courses of action supported by policy, that each administrator has, to my mind, satisfactorily accounted for in the pre-case submissions. Nick (talk) 12:43, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Automation tools

4) An automation tool is a technology designed to facilitate making multiple similar edits that would be unduly time-consuming or tedious for a human editor to perform manually. Common automation tools include bots (independently running processes that modify Wikipedia content in a fully or partially automated fashion), scripts (software components utilized to automate or semi-automate certain types of editing), and various other technologies.

The use of automation tools on Wikipedia is subject to numerous restrictions, and certain tools require approval from the Bot Approvals Group before an editor may use them.

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I'll leave it to the arbitrators to decide whether it's worth pursuing the automation slant on OccultZone. There's not been many complaints about his automation since he lost access to AWB, but it has hampered any investigation. OccultZone has only been editing about a year and a half and has 200k edits under his belt, but 2 AN threads regarding AWB access - there is a very real possibility that this will come back to cause issues in the future if some structure is not put in place. At any rate, I've taken these from Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Rich Farmbrough Worm^TT(talk) 17:52, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

OccultZone, there is a problem with those edits, the sheer volume of them means that your edits avoid scrutiny. You say there has been no complaints since the removal of AWB, but the community were not happy to return the tool just 6 months ago. I'm surprised that you say you are not using any scripts - the amount of edits for sustained periods makes that seem highly improbable and per previous Arbcom cases, it is reasonable to infer that they are scripted. Worm^TT(talk) 07:39, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

• I've no expanded my evidence regarding the high speed editing. OccultZone, this issue is at the heart of this is that work at this speed cannot be properly managed. You are regularly making a dozen of edits per minute for a sustained period - you simply cannot be giving each edit sufficient attention. Look at your reviewed articles, in my evidence. Look at the string of edits which you had to fix. Even if you are not using a script, you are acting as a bot. Worm^TT(talk) 13:08, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

• It can be proposed only when there is problem with the edits. There has been no complaints about any of my edit since the removal of AWB, and after that I had realized that I should only make those edits that have global consensus and I stopped using semi-automated programs for major edits. All of the edits that I have made are impossible to make through any bot or script, they require homework and manual care. You have said that "it's very difficult to look into"[16] my contribution history. I agree that mass editing makes it harder for an admin to find a reason to block, but there is no procedure for easing it. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 05:31, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

• No there is no problem with those edits, they are beneficial to en.wiki. It is not my fault if I am the major contributor of many wikiprojects. It was *3 months, June - September, not 6. About 7 months ago since last weeks of September - April. Majority had voted for reinstatement, about 8 support compared to 3 oppose. I didn't objected to the closure, I just thought of dropping the idea and try someday later. What I am currently doing, it cannot be done through any semi-automated programs or scripts. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 08:25, 1 May 2015 (UTC)re-edited 02:00, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Furthermore where did you found bot policy saying that one requires approval at WP:BAG for using script and making semi-automated edits? OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 02:14, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

@Nick: 'would cover'? No it is not going to cover anything except "bot" and "automated" scripts/tasks. I have no semi-automated[17] scripts enabled either. I am now naming Ohconfucius, Hugo999, and many other editors who have got high speed too, thus it shouldn't be so unbelievable. These [18][19][20] are 3 very different edits made under 1 minute and 2 others[21][22] from the same minute. It is impossible for a bot or script to decide that person is actually living or not and appropriately tagging this quickly. Automation can only repeat the same thing. If this matter is investigated, I would show the video to Arbcom, they would know that it requires a great deal of homework and it is 100% manual. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 10:07, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

It is contradictory to mention that I had to fix my 18 edits by myself since no one had asked, and at the same time, suggesting that I put bot. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log)

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The first line of the bot policy states, quite clearly Bot policy covers the operation of all bots and automated scripts used to provide automation of Wikipedia edits, whether completely automated, higher speed, or simply assisting human editors in their own work. which would cover almost all, if not all of the high speed, repetitive tasks OccultZone is currently engaged in. It goes on to say Note that high-speed semi-automated processes may effectively be considered bots in some cases, even if performed by an account used by a human editor. If in doubt, check. and Tools not considered to be bots do not require a separate account, but some users do choose to make separate accounts for non-bot but high-speed editing is also relevant depending in the edits in question. These sorts of edits, made at upto 2 second intervals, don't appear to have any sort of human input at the point they're saved, they appear to essentially an unauthorised bot task, and contrary to OccultZone's assertions, the majority of these edits can easily be performed by an automated bot or script. [23][24][25]. This morning alone (5 May) I can see 43 edits in 16 minutes averaging around 3 edits per minute. I see no evidence OccultZone has consulted with the Bot Approvals Group directly concerning his editing activities [26] but he may have asked a BAG member elsewhere, and if so, it would be helpful if he could provide diffs of this before I possibly write up some additional remedies here. Nick (talk) 09:53, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Users of automation tools

5) Like administrators and other editors in positions of trust, users of automation tools have a heightened responsibility to the community, and are expected to comply with applicable policies and restrictions; to respond reasonably to questions or concerns about their use of such tools; and to respect the community's wishes regarding the use of automation.

An editor who misuses automation tools—whether deliberately or in good faith—or fails to respond appropriately to concerns from the community about their use may lose the privilege of using such tools or may have such privilege restricted.

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Per Principle 4 Worm^TT(talk) 17:52, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

No longer convinced about this one, as there is no clear tool OccultZone is using, and he states he is doing it manually. Something new may need to be written. Worm^TT(talk) 13:08, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Irrelevant to this case. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 05:32, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

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I'm not convinced by this principle, particularly because of the first part, but from when it talks about expectations and what happens in the case of misuse, I agree. Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:48, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Identifying the use of automation tools

6) It is often impossible to definitively determine whether a particular edit was made using an automation tool, as such tools typically run on computers under the control of individual users rather than on the servers that host Wikipedia, and even automation tools that normally report their use may be modified to run silently.

In examining edits where the use of automation tools is suspected, the community and the Arbitration Committee may make reasonable inferences regarding the probable use of such tools on the basis of several factors, including the speed, number, timing, and consistency of the edits and the performing editor's past use of and familiarity with such tools. (See also: WP:MEATBOT.)

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Per Principle 4 Worm^TT(talk) 17:52, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Indeed I have - see my evidence. Worm^TT(talk) 13:08, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

That policy(WP:MEATBOT) concerns the quick but bad quality(such as breaking things) edits. Have you found any? OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 16:14, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

That's not evidence, I never "reviewed" many of those articles and it has been proven with the logs that I have provided. Unless I had removed something more than just {{new unreviewed article}} or any other text that comes along with the userspace draft, then I would consider. Have you found like, even 10 errors in last 10k edits of mine? WP:MEATBOT applies only on frequent errors. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 11:47, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

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Yep. Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:48, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

After reading the evidence I think this should be included. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:36, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Proposed findings of fact

Locus of dispute

1) On 23 March 2015, User:OccultZone was blocked alongside other editors for 72 hours by User:Swarm for a slow motion edit war at Rape in India.[27] OccultZone has contacted a large number of administrators regarding the block and related matters and has subsequently been blocked and unblocked twice more based on his subsequent behaviour.[28]

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Disagree. Every time there was a new reason to block and both of the times I was unblocked because the block was incorrect. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 05:31, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

There is no " slow motion edit war" if 4 editors have reverted an obvious sock puppet. Nor there is any need to block when it is 100% obvious that no more disruption is going to take place, per WP:BLOCK. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 03:50, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

It was an obvious sock puppet, when multiple accounts have used same edit summaries all time, they are WP:DUCK. It is sock puppetry to evade 3RR by registering an account, such account is often indeffed. There was mass copyvio involved on that article and also afterwards. Bgwhite was involved and he could not block for a conflict that was already stale. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 13:42, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

It's clear to me that they are all related - largely through your contacting of such a high number of administrators. I've given my evidence on the appropriateness of the blocks, it might be worth Arbcom making a statement that the blocks were not incorrect or within administrator discretion, so that OccultZone can have a ruling on the matter. Worm^TT(talk) 07:39, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

The problem is that it wasn't an obvious sockpuppet - it required 3-4 SPIs and a number of checkusers to root out the sockpuppets. Nor was it a clear copyvio (mentioned elsewhere) as it was not mentioned until later. Nor a clear-cut case BLPCRIME as no living persons were named. There was an edit war and it needed to be stopped. Similarly with Bgwhite's block - 7 reverts and some admins will block no matter what, even after reversions have stopped - to encourage better behaviour in the future. That is preventative, not punitive. Worm^TT(talk) 13:08, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

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There has not been any evidence provided that the blocks were procedurally incorrect. They represented one possible course of action that administrators have the discretion to take. There are essentially two options to deal with edit wars once dispute resolution is exhausted - block all those involved, or fully protect the article page. Administrators have their own preferences and it varies from case to case, if the administrator thinks the edit war will move to another article, then blocking all those involved is usually the most sensible option. If it is likely that the edit war is restricted to one page, then blocking otherwise productive editors is not always necessary.

It is not necessary that an edit war be happening at the point an administrator blocks a participant, if there is reasonable grounds to suspect the issue is not resolved and that edit warring may resume, then blocks still fulfil their preventative purpose. Nick (talk) 13:16, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

The subsequent unblock/block needs to be put in more detail. I also don't agree with the heading of this proposal (though I understand what is intended, it won't be considered in the same way by anyone else really). Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:48, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

OccultZone

Adminshopping

2) OccultZone has contacted at least 28 administrators (13 through off-wiki methods) directly with respect to this dispute. Many have told him to drop the issue and move on.

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In my view, this is where the biggest problem in this case lies. The initial blockw as for 72 hours, and was quickly overturned (rightly or wrongly). If OccultZone had accepted the judgement there and the advice from a number of admins at that time, we would not be in this position. Worm^TT(talk) 17:52, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

OccultZone - you denied contacting 18 administrators at the case request, I've now done a full tally and come up with 28 which I have found. I've no idea how many more were contacted through email direct, gchat or IRC. Feel free to use the analysis of evidence section to debunk my findings, but as it stands I have defined the dispute as "administrative actions related to Rape in India" and it appears you've contacted 28 admins in 6 weeks. Without a doubt, that is adminshopping. Worm^TT(talk) 07:39, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

The context of the Chillum contact was editing an archive to refactor a sockpuppet's contributions. This was within a day of the allowed SPI failing. It appeared the question was linked. You appear to be scoping the cases oddly, we're not looking "from 20 April", we're reviewing all parties behaviour. I'm focussing from 23 March, which is where I started looking into the matter. Worm^TT(talk) 10:08, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

You have started or reopened 4 SPIs directly related to individuals at Rape in India - 1,2,3,4, it appeared to be one of them. If I'm wrong, I'm happy to strike that one. Again, if you want to rebutt my evidence, why not use the Analysis of Evidence section below? Finally, what is "my definition of adminshopping" - because I was unaware I had defined it, especially a definition which would not include your emails around 15 April, or later pings. Worm^TT(talk) 11:49, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

I've pointed out the evidence I've found of asking lots of admins about similar issues - and that's just the evidence I've found. There's little more I can do. I'm willing to accept that I'm wrong about some, I specifically mentioned that communication may be on other matters - but the fact is, there is clear admin shopping here. Worm^TT(talk) 13:08, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

There were different issues. When an editor is still contributing after having blocks and a T-ban, he has to be assured whether he is doing it right or wrong. I could not make many of the requests due to the topic ban that you had imposed, despite I never made a disruptive edit. After you had removed T-Ban on 16 April,[29] I have not done anything that can be even remotely considered as adminshopping. But after I had another block, I assumed that I would pass through the same trouble again. Now for ending that whole problem, I decided to address each of these issues to Arbcom. Story ends there. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 05:31, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

28? Do you know any after 16 April or 20 April to be specific? Yes you even counted Chillum[30] as adminshopping, though I was talking to him about the provision to edit archives. This is how you have misrepresented vast amount. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 08:09, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Name me the sock puppet then, whoever I was referring to according to you. And no, if adminshopping by your own definition had been already stopped then the matter is outdated. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log)

I never mentioned even a single SPI to Chillum, so how come you even thought that I was pointing to any of these SPIs? If you have to think of SPIs, then at the same time I was also contributing on other SPIs.[31][32][33] How come you never thought of these? I mean, you are saying that posting a message on any admin's UTP is adminshopping, that means I had to just edit the archives and ask no one about it, I would had and I would've seen that you have blocked me. I am now thinking that I have saved more chances of getting blocked by this kind of "adminshopping". Just because I saved more chances of getting blocked, I did it wrong? OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 12:01, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

WTT, here's the proof, no such adminshopping took place after 16 April, the day you had removed the topic ban.[34] You had yourself said that it is better to have transparency,[35] while I know that it is, I just couldn't discuss the matters that would touch the topic ban, and you had allowed such type of conversations yourself.[36] Still I always left notification on their talk pages. Hope you are not saying that I did it wrong by heeding your advice or kept anything secret. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 04:19, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

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In this instance, the evidence is clear, but I think the proposed findings should be more direct - that it was disruptive - and then perhaps point to examples like admin-shopping, inappropriate notification (which I suppose should have a principle on canvassing too), and so forth. Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:58, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Bot-like editing

3) OccultZone has been active since 23 August 2013. He has made over 200k edits, primarily through scripts and AutoWikiBrowser (AWB). His AWB access has been revoked on two occasions[37][38] and restoration has since been refused[39] Despite the removal of AWB, OccultZone maintains a high velocity of edits, regularly averaging speeds of up to 13 edits per minute.[40]

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Per principle 4 Worm^TT(talk) 17:52, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Those edits are impossible to make through any bot or script, they require homework and manual care. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 05:31, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

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Yep. Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:48, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

OccultZone maintains that he is not using any automation tools, and that the edits are "impossible to make through any bot or script", but I have a hard time believing that OZ's sustained, high-rate editing is all done by hand. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 15:21, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Bgwhite and WP:INVOLVED

Bgwhite has used administrator tools whilst moderating the Rape in India article. He fully protected the article, then facilitated discussion at the talk page,[41] before creating a draft compromise through the full protection. Every participant at the talk page agreed the draft was good.[42] Bgwhite went on to block OccultZone for violating 3RR at an IP talk page.[43] He also reverted an editor who edited against the consensus achieved before fully protecting the article.[44]

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I'm not sure how best to write this - in my opinion Bgwhite's actions did not meet the threshold of "WP:INVOLVED" - indeed his work at Rape in India deserves praise, not condemnation. However, there is definitely a grey area there and it would have been better for him to draw clearer lines with regards to moderation and administrator intervention. Worm^TT(talk) 17:52, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

There is a big difference between "working as an editor" and "drafting a consensus", especially when all parties agree to it. Even if Bgwhite was considered involved, WP:INVOLVED makes it clear that obvious administrator actions can be taken - you know, like blocking for violating 3RR or protecting an article against vandalism. Worm^TT(talk) 07:39, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

I still haven't seen that Bgwhite was "in dispute" with you. He wrote a draft based on comments at an article he had barely edited. You and all other participants unanimously agreed it was good, forming consensus for the draft. That's not a dispute. Worm^TT(talk) 10:08, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Interesting that you didn't raise it when he unblocked you, nor when he found consensus at the talk page of Rape in India. Worm^TT(talk) 13:08, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

It is contrary to the established principles.[45] An admin cannot work as an editor on any article where he has performed administrative tasks, simple as that. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 05:03, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

He cannot block any editor who he is in dispute with per the policy. Any block, except under special circumstances(like high level of vandalism) would influence the position of the admin who is WP:INVOLVED in the dispute. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 07:43, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

I did disagreed with him at some things and disagreement can be still found over there, we have been in a number of content dispute, including a discussion about spam link where consensus is in my favor.[46] OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 10:36, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

I didn't wanted to remember all that, like I have mentioned on the evidence, I really had doubts over the consequences. I strongly believed that it would've been better if someone else had unblocked me, Bgwhite could in fact try asking any other admin too. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 13:42, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

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Proposed remedies

Note: All remedies that refer to a period of time, for example to a ban of X months or a revert parole of Y months, are to run concurrently unless otherwise stated.

OccultZone

Automated editing account

1) OccultZone is instructed to create an alternative account for his automated editing. Any large scale (over 100 edits) automation should be treated as "bot" editing and be approved.

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Per principle 4 Worm^TT(talk) 17:52, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Noting that there are some massive benefits to forcing a bot flag - the addition oversight over the work, the quick "shut off" methods and the flag that allows people to hide the edits from their watchlist. Worm^TT(talk) 13:08, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

First there has to be automated editing, currently and in fact since day no.1 there hasn't been any. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 14:49, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

DoRD Read this message,[47] sums up everything. Bot cannot decide whether a person is alive or dead nor it can make different edits the way I do in a single minute,[48][49] it can only repeat same text. These proposals by WTT only shows his misrepresentation of bot policy, editing modes, or his struggle to find a single disruptive edit since he has been challenged countless times. We have to see that his plan is to block me for making even 2 edits in 3 minutes in the future. You or Arbcom can ask me anytime, I can show a very short 2 minutes video. One can understand that how manual my editing is, it just requires some experience and we have editors like Hugo999, Ohconfucius, and more who got high speed. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 22:22, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Which bot did it? Thinking of making a bot is unnecessary, because bot cannot make these edits[50][51][52][53] with different summaries and content in a minute, it can only repeat. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 14:23, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

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Yes, though I really do not see why he can't, shouldn't, or won't do this right away. Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:48, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

I agree and in fact most of the tagging could be done by an approved bot. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:32, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes, there are a number of current bots that could be making these edits, but if OZ insists on making them, they should be done through an approved bot account. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 15:23, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

@OccultZone: Bots tag with |living= yes/no based on categories in article page. Bot can do most of it but not all of it. Still in most cases a bot should be operated first to reduce human amount of work. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:33, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Administrator contact

2) OccultZone may only contact a maximum of two administrators directly, or one noticeboard, on any single issue. After six months, he may appeal this restriction to the Arbitration Committee.

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I think this is the best non-draconian option. The only other way I can think that this will end is a short term ban or full exoneration (both I would oppose) Worm^TT(talk) 17:52, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

If he is unable to see that the situations were related - perhaps a list of X (say, 5) admins that OccultZone is restricted to contacting, along with noticeboards? That way we don't have this ridiculous situation of contacting so many? Worm^TT(talk) 13:08, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

You were disrupting the article and entire topic area by making mass accusations of sockpuppets without starting an SPI. You carried on with sockpuppet accusations even after checkusers told you no. I attempted to remove you from the topic, to reduce the disruption, that's what discretionary sanctions is for. I don't regret it. Worm^TT(talk) 07:32, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

DISRUPTSIGNS is not the be all and end all - it specifically states "such as". There are other signs "such as" accusing your opponents of sockpuppetry without backing it up at an SPI (that's against our civility policy - "ill-considered accusations of impropriety".) That's why the sockpuppetry policy tells you to create an SPI. I'm not denying those two were related - but they weren't the only people you were accusing when you finally did create your first or second SPIs - You conveniently forget that you accused 4 editors and multiple IP address of being the same person. You were told by a number of checkusers that they are unrelated. I know checkuser is not "magic pixie dust", I set very little store by it and that's why I gave up the right. What I do know is that our checkusers are very good at looking at patterns in editing and very good at detecting sockpuppets and I trust their judgement.
You seem to be still saying Zhanzhao and Bargolus are not good editors, the very definition of uncivil accusations. I'm done here. Worm^TT(talk) 08:08, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Disagree, since every matter actually required judgement of an administrator, also read see my reply above OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 05:31, 1 May 2015 (UTC) Actually, that is how it already went. Never contacted any more than 1 or two admin on same matter, nor I raised issue on multiple noticeboards. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log)

We have authoritative banning and AC/DS policies for a reason. Although you have violated that(ac/ds) whole facility, we know that even a minor violation of such a serious policy can lead to negative consequences, there is a reason why we have WP:ARE where a number of admins, experienced editors share their opinions. Now when there is a contradictory T-Ban, one will have to knock at the doors to get easy-to-understand problems solved. It is very hard, because most of the people would watch that the target is "banned", not the reasons or merit, and further tell the target to "move on and forget", exactly that happened here. It is clear that you were waiting for ARBIPA violation so that I could be blocked appropriately, right? Violation never took place and I could get the problems fixed without even touching the topic ban which was against what you had thought. In order to respond to that, you went to issue wider topic ban since the violation was more likely to happen after the imposition of this topic ban. It is comfortable to suggest that it would be better if you refrain from banning people for no actual reason. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 06:26, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

That doesn't qualifies any WP:DISRUPTSIGNS. I have to ask again, that you should review your definition of disruption. Allegations of socking are out of AC/DS scope, CU is not a magic pixie dust and when same accounts were making same edits, using same edit summaries[54][55][56][57][58][59] we really know who is being disruptive. Finally, I wasn't alleging any good editors anyway, but those who had to be blocked for misrepresentation of sources, edit warring, editing against consensus, WP:CRYSTAL, etc. Not to mention the previous positive record. Topic ban from this subject clearly looked more like a "Topic ban from talking about Swarm's block". OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 07:38, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

How about we look at your experience with WP:AC/DS[60]? And if you still wanted to T-Ban, why you didn't looked back to June 2014? Anyways, that first SPI was successful, it just had a misleading and never seen decision. Second SPI had to be looked more upon since the named IPs(72. an 96.) matched geolocations, that is how I had presented technical evidence even though I am not a CU, and all that was largely ignored. Third SPI had a massive misrepresentation, which is not even a new thing for Mike V, he had mistreated another crucial SPI before[61] and the editor was unblocked as innocent when PhilKnight questioned.[62] Looking at so many faults around, I needed to contact a CU with whom I never had a problem before, nor there was any evidence that he would favor than decide something. How come you can ignore the disruption that includes not only edit warring, but comes along with 3rr evasion, misrepresentation of sources[63][64], etc.? That's not the definition of good editors. Remember that you had discouraged me from the SPI?[65] That's why I am not even amazed after looking at your response, evidently because you want me to be banned from SPI[66] though I was very correct on still-recent SPIs.[67][68][69] You had also referred this SPI as "crusades".[70] Right now I am contributing on 2 SPIs[71][72] one of it concerns a banned editor. Let us think of that ban on WP:SPI again? How much more "adminshopping", "administrator contacting", etc. would we be seeing if your SPI ban was implemented? I would say just more than what you have inaccurately estimated until now. It is all because of your incorrect imposition of T-Ban that led to such adminshopping. My approach to stop disruption and keep en.wiki free of trouble was still alive. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 08:31, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Nick, being all that doesn't justify the violation of WP:AC/DS or imposition of retaliatory topic bans. Thus your misleading comment really makes no sense, yes we know that you have been favorable to a disruptive sock master, especially after watching your support for Kumioko and a rejected unblock appeal[73] that you had made for him,[74] and your hopes to topic ban me from SPIs. But how it is going to benefit en.wiki? Have you ever checked WP:DENY? Socks should not be recognized anywhere in whole en.wiki, any attempts to dismiss socks should not be discouraged as long as they don't restore some vandalism. What do you meant from "conspiracy theory"? No political agenda is being discussed, I am only showing what actually happened and with the diffs. Your don't need administrator to tell what is wrong and right. It is policies that defines what is correct and incorrect and all administrators should lead by example and follow those policies. If they are contradicting them, for an example, if they are making or applauding block for 1 revert in 5 days then that has to be addressed. Finally, did I ever said that I know more than him? I am wondering how you reached to that conclusion, we just have to compare the actions/statements with the policies and usual standards. So when it comes to who's correct or who knows more about the concerning subject, answer is obviously clear. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 11:54, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

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It's definitely better than a plain admonishment suggesting sanctions may happen in the future. I am concerned that this may be wikilawyered though. Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:48, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

@OccultZone: you say My approach to stop disruption and keep en.wiki free of trouble was still alive. but the grim reality of the situation is your attempts to stop disruption are several orders of magnitude more disruptive than any sockpuppet you've reported. You yourself are filling en.wiki up with trouble you have created, when called out on it, you proceed to blame the world and its wife through increasingly erratic, sensational and utterly ridiculous claims of conspiracy theories (such as the one targeting Worm That Turned right now), yet not once have I seen you accept any wrongdoing or take any personal responsibility for your actions. How many administrators need to tell you that you are wrong before you will accept it ? Do you genuinely believe you know better than longstanding administrators, retired arbitrators and numerous functionaries ? Nick (talk) 09:29, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

@OccultZone: there's a problem with those diffs. [75] shows an unblock proposal Tiptoety was working on, I'm not even mentioned in the discussion at that point (I made some comments later), and [76] is a concern about Floquenbeam's interaction with Tiptoety and not their response to the unblock discussion. I've only ever discussed unblocking of Kumioko in general terms, what might be needed, editing restrictions etc. I have never written up a specific unblock proposal, indeed, quite the opposite, I've also blocked an IP he was using to evade his current block. I've previously demonstrated how this is entirely consistent and in-line with the sockpuppetry and blocking policies. What I am seeing more and more of is this insistence that only your opinion is correct, you don't seem to recognise alternative approaches are equally valid and that there's not necessarily a right and wrong way to handle incidents. Nick (talk) 13:34, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Bgwhite reminded

3) Bgwhite is reminded that the perception of whether an administrator is WP:INVOLVED is important and to ensure there is a clear delineation between acting as an administrator and as a moderator.

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Nothing more than a reminder is really necessary here - if that, I spoke to Bgwhite at the time and although his response was not as positive as I'd hoped, I'm sure it had the right effect. As I mentioned above - Bgwhite's work at the Rape in India article should be praised, he made major inroads to a difficult debate. Worm^TT(talk) 17:52, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Feel free to provide evidence on that OccultZone. Worm^TT(talk) 07:39, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

You may want to present actual evidence at the evidence page. Worm^TT(talk) 10:08, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

You are taking only one article into account, we do have many other articles where WP:INVOLVED has been violated. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 05:31, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes you can check this. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 07:45, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

What part of INVOLVED did I cross? Where did I cross it? What is it on Rape in India or was it the block? Why am I being reminded about INVOLVED when only OccultZone says I was involved? Worm didn't say I was involved in Worm's Case Request response and on my talk page. I should be praised for my work on Rape in India but rebuked for working on Rape of India?

If I'm not involved why does Worm want this when he said I wasn't involved? Bgwhite (talk) 06:09, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

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Proposals by Nick

Proposed principles

IRC - Wikipedia channels

1) There have been several instances where users have approached administrators on IRC (whether in a Wikipedia IRC channel specifically or in private discussions) for the purpose of urging that administrative action be taken, even though no emergency or other circumstances are present that would prevent the issue from being raised in the appropriate manner on-wiki. At times, these requests involve parties with whom a user is engaged in a content or editing dispute, but the user being discussed has no opportunity to respond to the allegation being made. Making frequent requests for blocks of users you are in dispute with and/or for actions concerning articles you are involved in may lead to sanctions.

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Thank you Nick. I knew there had been a case of someone admin shopping before, but couldn't remember who it was. Arbs, I do think that this course of action is essential Worm^TT(talk) 07:15, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

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Taken largely 'as-is' from Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Ryulong. Nick (talk) 19:57, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

E-mail

2) There have been many instances where users have approached administrators via e-mail for the purpose of urging that administrative action be taken, even though no emergency or other circumstances, such as the need for privacy, are present that would prevent the issue from being raised in the appropriate manner on-wiki. At times, these requests involve parties with whom a user is engaged in a content or editing dispute, but the user being discussed has no opportunity to respond to the allegation being made. Making frequent requests for blocks of users you are in dispute with and/or for actions concerning articles you are involved in may lead to sanctions.

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Taken largely 'as-is' from Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Ryulong and modified as necessary. Nick (talk) 19:57, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Agree. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:17, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Administrative decisions and discretion

3) Administrators are users trusted by the community to undertake maintenance tasks, such as blocking, page protection and deletion, in accordance with relevant policies. Administrators generally use their own experience and occasionally seek advice from others in order to make informed choices on the course of action to take. Administrators have discretion and flexibility to do what they believe to be appropriate, with the result that different administrators may take different courses of action with the intention of effecting broadly similar outcomes. There is often no right or wrong course of action for administrators to take - policy generally only determines what must be done, not how it must be accomplished. Administrators are under no obligation to follow any demands made by any other editor, indeed, they are under no requirement to use their tools if they do not wish to do so. Administrators who do use their tools are normally solely accountable for and should be able to justify any and all actions they take. Persistent poor judgement may result in removal of permissions by the Arbitration Committee.

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Despite what Nick supports or opposes. I just checked last 3 blocks by him for disruptive editing or edit warring,[77][78][79] it is highly clear that blocks were policy based and the editor in question had been significantly warned prior to the block. If these ethics were kept in mind during time when actions were being taken against me, none of these blocks would've ever taken place. Enough said. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 16:27, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

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Wording probably sucks terribly, but there needs to be some sort of principle reiterated here which makes it abundantly clear to OccultZone that he (or any other user) cannot demand administrators take one specific course of action, and if they refuse, the administrator is mysteriously doing something wrong. We do not, have not and never will attempt to take action against administrators who don't cave in to users often unrealistic demands, it's only when administrators demonstrate poor judgement does the Arbitration Committee step in, not when one user doesn't get his own way. Nick (talk) 16:15, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

In support of this principle, the second paragraph of the policy says, "[Administrators] are never required to use their tools." ​—DoRD (talk)​ 16:47, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

I think something like this will cause more problems in the long run than resolve them - be it the current ones or the ones which seem to be surfacing for the near future. Too much scope for this to be misapplied, misunderstood, or to otherwise act counter to what it is many decisions have and will continue to necessarily urge or encourage, particularly by the people who are likely read this decision (or other decisions concerning administrators for that matter). Ncmvocalist (talk) 13:44, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Conduct on arbitration pages

4) The pages associated with Arbitration cases are primarily intended to assist the Arbitration Committee in arriving at a fair, well-informed, and expeditious resolution of each case. Participation by editors who present good-faith statements, evidence, and workshop proposals is appreciated. While allowance is made for the fact that parties and other interested editors may have strong feelings about the subject-matters of their dispute, appropriate decorum should be maintained on these pages. Incivility, personal attacks, and strident rhetoric should be avoided in Arbitration as in all other areas of Wikipedia.

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There has been zero evidence of any misrepresentation from me. But yes there has been mass misrepresentations by others about my actions, including you.[80] If you can prove same way I did, then we will see. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 16:53, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

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I don't know why OccultZone has raised the Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Kiefer.Wolfowitz and Ironholds case, but this principle, from that case, is worth including. Several editors including parties to the case and those submitting evidence have expressed concerns that their evidence is being misinterpreted by OccultZone, with increasingly difficult to follow responses being made by OccultZone on the Evidence page in particular. Nick (talk) 12:05, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a battleground

5) Wikipedia is not a battleground. Consequently, it is a not a venue for the furtherance of grudges and personal disputes.

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I have been told by others that there are some limitations around, such as, people don't remember a lot, they are not too good at examining, they don't verify the content so well, that's why sock puppetry is on increase. Obviously, reporting them is not a bad thing at all, especially when they are overtly disruptive. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 11:56, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

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From Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Kiefer.Wolfowitz and Ironholds. A useful reminder that OccultZone's attitude towards SPI cases and his attitude towards sockpuppets (as per [81]) is not what Wikipedia is about. In combination with WTT's Proposed Principle 1, stating "Contributors whose actions are detrimental to that goal may be asked to refrain from them, even when these actions are undertaken in good faith." I don't doubt OccultZone's actions are made in anything other than the utmost good faith, but they are extremely detrimental. I doubt he realises just how much of a battleground mentality he is demonstrating and sadly I fear efforts to elucidate this have failed entirely. Nick (talk) 12:05, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Proposed findings of fact

OccultZone and IRC

1) A number of administrators have indicated that OccultZone has been seeking administrative actions from other administrators via Wikipedia IRC channels and/or via private discussions. Requests made by OccultZone have spanned a period of approximately 1 year.

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Evidence is what missing. Normal discussions about the events differs from seeking 'actions'. You can at least ask "Am I wrong?" it is not same as saying "tell them that they are wrong". OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 03:08, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

6x7 = 42. This all begin from 23 March, and last evidence of IRC maybe from 3 April. Thus this is irrelevant. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 07:47, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Find one incident before the first block and I needed to contact multiple admin for same issue? Even those after the first block would differ from each. I didn't asked for any actions here. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 10:41, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Evidence is in my section. I count 28, of which 13 were off wiki - and that's just in the last 6 weeks. Asking for a review of actions is the same as asking for further actions. Worm^TT(talk) 07:39, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

OccultZone, I'm confused by that comment. Are you saying you should be able to contact 1 different admin every day? I certainly reject that concept. There is a pattern of you contacting multiple admins on very similar issues, on- and off-wiki, over a sustained period. That needs to be stopped. Worm^TT(talk) 10:08, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

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Taken from Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Ryulong with necessary modifications. It's quite clear from evidence provided that there has been some admin shopping going on via IRC. Nick (talk) 19:57, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

I think this could be combined with the finding (and my comment) below because the problem is somewhat the same. Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:25, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

OccultZone and e-mail

1) A number of administrators have indicated that OccultZone has been seeking administrative actions from other administrators via e-mail.

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Outdated matter, it has been over 10 15 days. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 05:31, 1 May 2015 (UTC)re-edited OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 16:08, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

The way it was being done, it was not a blockable offense, I would ask if they ever really complained. Second thing is that I didn't needed to email anyone even for clarification since I had addressed Arbcom on 20 April, I had an advice and I simply followed it. I just thought of describing my situation a bit to Euralyus only after he told that I can email.[82] I don't have to email if I can discuss about the things that were previously affected by a topic ban, not to mention any other reasons that I had And why not? You were in fact discouraging me from making conversations on their talk pages.[83]. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 08:01, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Outdated?!? This is the whole crux of the case Worm^TT(talk) 07:39, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

I specifically said you "were perpetuating drama". Moving the comments to email doesn't stop that, it just makes it less visible. I understand contacting an single administrator directly on a matter (or two for a second opinion), but that's not what you've done. Worm^TT(talk) 10:08, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

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Taken from Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Ryulong with necessary modifications. It's quite clear from evidence provided that there has been also been significant admin shopping going on via email. Nick (talk) 19:57, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Magioladitis I'd agree, such a proposal would complement the proposed enforcement action I made (currently 4.2.4.1). Nick (talk) 15:55, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Needs to be more specific and spell out the issues in more detail before the full scope of the problem can be appreciated. That said, private evidence would come into play. Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:23, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

I agree with Worm. I am also considering the idea of "e-mail ban". -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:35, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Proposed remedies

Note: All remedies that refer to a period of time, for example to a ban of X months or a revert parole of Y months, are to run concurrently unless otherwise stated.

OccultZone admonished

1) For contacting administrators in private to seek either blocks on users he is in dispute with, or the performance of other administrative actions. Any further occurrence would lead to sanctions.

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But where's the evidence that I ever asked for block? Also look at one of the other reply to your proposal that I have made. I know that The ed17 made a claim which is rather incorrect. He himself cast doubts when he said "context I got", "I didn't remembered", "my takeaway",[84] which is far different than what really happened. Saying "I am not asking for blocking him for copyrights, but yes many do get blocked for it," is not same as asking for an action. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 02:52, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Agree with Nick. Worm^TT(talk) 07:39, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Comment by others:

Also from Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Ryulong. I believe sensible to admonish OccultZone with sanctions only necessary if behaviour continues. Nick (talk) 19:57, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

I remain unconvinced that the last part of this is useful or adequate here. Either a sanction isn't needed in relation to this now or it is; I'm inclined towards the latter? The reasons are because he did not frankly disclose the number of administrators he contacted when requested to do so prior to the case being accepted, and even his comment here suggests he sees no issue at all despite the community's frustration. Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:19, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

I agree 100% with this. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:23, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

OccultZone banned

2. OccultZone (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is indefinitely banned from the English Language Wikipedia. They may request reconsideration of the ban twelve months after the enactment of this remedy, and every six months thereafter.

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I would really hate to see this happen. It would be very painful to see an editor banned over what started as a fairly trivial matter. But OccultZone's self-destructive spiral has continued, even during the case. Unless he stops it of his own accord, I can't see an alternative to a long-term block or ban. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:52, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Comment by others:

I reluctantly raise this measure in light of the extraordinary behaviour exhibited at this Arbitration request, with evidence from several experienced editors directly contradicting the claims made by OccultZone. We either have the situation where OccultZone doesn't understand what they're being told and misinterpret it with unfortunate and occasional disastrous effect, or they are deliberately choosing to make malicious accusations, obfuscate the evidence and have trouble accurately recalling discussions with other editors. I believe, with heavy heart, that both explanations are incompatible with continued editing of the project. I had previously thought some form of topic ban restricting OccultZone from editing in the Wikipedia namespace, filing SPIs or similar would be suitable, but given OccultZone's involvement in editing disputes which have also been mischaracterised, I don't believe it's in the best interests of the project for him to be allowed to continue editing until such times as he can satisfy either the community or the Arbitration Committee that he understands the concerns and problems his behaviour causes and can demonstrate an ability to address such concerns. Nick (talk) 21:00, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

@Nick: Any particular reason for the 12/6 appeals provision? Thanks, --L235 (t / c / ping in reply) 21:49, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

@L235: It's purely gut instinct, based on what I feel is suitable in the circumstances. OccultZone is going to need a lengthy period to fully understand the concerns raised and to make satisfactory proposals to remedy them, if he doesn't succeed in remedying them after the first 12 months, I would expect suitable proposals six months later. Nick (talk) 22:13, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

I think this should be enacted at this point, contacting 28 admins over... 1 user?... seems to be WAY too much. Zeke Essiestudy (talk) 22:54, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

The evidence and behaviour (or continued behaviour) during the course of this case is for this remedy I think, but all of the proposed findings of fact in the workshop need more work. Ncmvocalist (talk) 14:59, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Ncmvocalist, OZ keeps writing and re-writing the text, adding and modifying making very hard to follow him. Plus, the high edit ratio in the previous days. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:10, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

@Magioladitis: Sure, I am endorsing the proposed remedy. My reservation was relating to the issue that despite the significant strength of the evidence available for this case, the workshop Fofs framed in the workshop so far understate how seriously disruptive and problematic the conduct of this editor is (and was). The seriousness needs to be more clearly reflected in the Fofs, and I think the community needs more assistance in this regard. Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:34, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Proposed enforcement

OccultZone and off-wiki administrative action requests

1) Should OccultZone be found to be seeking or requesting any administrative action off-wiki (IRC, email or any other medium) against users with whom he is in dispute, he may be reported to the Arbitration Enforcement page. This would include reporting users with whom OccultZone is in dispute with to an administrator but not formally requesting specific action, instead hoping that administrative action be taken. All complaints or requests for administrator assistance regarding users with whom OccultZone is in dispute should be made on-wiki.

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Querying for clarifications ("am I right or wrong", "is it possible"), or any previous case,("about 6 years ago, you had.."), or informing or any sharing private information,("last time you had told me you were having IRL trouble") all of that has to do nothing with seeking off-wiki administrator actions. I am glad that I had contacted at least 3 arbitrators over here before I would even file this. They would clarify it well that I was not seeking for any actions. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 02:47, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Agree with Nick. Worm^TT(talk) 07:39, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

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Also from Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Ryulong with appropriate modification and expansion to eliminate potential ambiguity. Nick (talk) 19:57, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Proposals by User:OccultZone

Proposed principles

Blocks

1) Blocking is a serious matter. Administrators should be exceedingly careful when blocking, and only do so when no other alternative would prove as effective. When placed, blocks should be intended to prevent disruption to the project and not simply to punish a user for their (mis)conduct.

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Copied from Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Civility enforcement#Blocking. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 03:11, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

0 evidence of disruption or misbehavior. If there was any, it had to be told before the block,(WP:BEFOREBLOCK) either by the admin or any editor and it must be coherent to the block, it should not be written after the block for the first time. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 07:50, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

If we note this, we should include the fact that "prevention includes deterring future misbehaviour and encouraging a more congenial editing style" Worm^TT(talk) 07:39, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

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Administrator

2)Wikipedia administrators are trusted members of the community and are expected to follow Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Occasional lapses may be overlooked, but consistently poor judgement may result in desysopping. Administrators are not to use their tools in any dispute in which they are directly involved, such as by blocking others with whom they are in a dispute. See Wikipedia:Administrators, Wikipedia:Blocking policy, and Wikipedia:Protection policy. Long-term blocks and bans of established users are likely to be controversial, and to minimise distractions due to problems on unencyclopedic matters resulting from this, such actions, especially in complex situations, should be discussed thoroughly prior to such actions being taken. This is to achieve the most appropriate outcome possible and minimise the subsequent conflicts and upset caused by the possibility of later reversals and U-turns.

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From Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Hkelkar 2, sums up everything. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 03:54, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

What about those wide ranging topic bans, that were direct loss to en.wiki? OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 22:26, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

I'm curious how this "sums up everything". Long-term blocks haven't happened. The situations weren't complex. I agree better block messages and more discussion should have happened from all blocking and unblocking parties, but I dont' see the consistently poor judgement. Worm^TT(talk) 13:08, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

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Administrator standards

3) Administrators are trusted members of the community, who are expected to follow Wikipedia policies and are held to a high standard of conduct. They are expected to pursue their duties to the best of their abilities. Occasional mistakes are entirely compatible with this; administrators are not expected to be perfect. However, consistently or egregiously poor judgment may result in the removal of administrator status.

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From Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia 2. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 07:31, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

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Disruption by administrators

4) Sustained disruption of Wikipedia is incompatible with the status of administrator. Administrators who repeatedly and aggressively engage in inappropriate activity may be desysopped by the Arbitration Committee.

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From Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia 2. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 07:31, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

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Accountability

5) Administrators are accountable for their actions involving administrative tools. As such, they are expected to respond appropriately to queries about their administrative actions and to justify their actions where needed. Criticism of the merits of administrative actions are acceptable within the bounds of avoiding personal attacks and civility.

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From Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/DangerousPanda. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 07:34, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

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Civility

6) Users are expected to be reasonably courteous to each other; see Wikipedia:Civility, Wikipedia:No personal attacks, and Wikipedia:Assume good faith. Unwarranted accusations and assumptions of bad faith constitute incivility.

ALT1: Wikipedia users are expected to behave civilly and calmly in their dealings with other users. If disputes arise, users are expected to utilise dispute resolution procedures instead of merely attacking each other.

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From Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Irishpunktom and Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/JarlaxleArtemis. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 07:38, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Those who observe it well, they would know what is going on around and this principle is important. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 10:46, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

This is the first complaint of civility I've seen in this case, I'm curious to know what's being referred to. In my opinion the situation has degraded out of civil discourse on one side more than the others, but it's also not something that needs to be addressed particularly as all parties have been reasonably civil considering the nature of accusations. Worm^TT(talk) 10:08, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

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Arbitration sanctions

7) The scope of sanctions imposed as remedies in arbitration cases, such as topic-bans, should be clearly defined so as to avoid later misunderstandings and disagreements. A sanction remedy should also clearly specify the duration of the sanction and the procedure, if any, available to the sanctioned user to seek lifting or modification of the sanction in due course.

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From Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Henri Coanda. Looking at that topic ban, that was imposed by Worm That Turned, this one is clearly relevant. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 04:09, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

You didn't cited even a single diff of WP:DISRUPTSIGNS. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 13:42, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

We know that you didn't removed topic ban because you already knew that it had no merit, you removed it only after Bishonen asked you upon my request and after that you started this all adminshop accusations. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 14:04, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

I have no idea about all that, I just know that Bishonen had told me that she had "researched", but that's all I know. I thought that it might have affected your decision. That topic ban imposition, even after knowing that it did no good, you continued to come up with more topic bans. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 14:20, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Stable with outdated predictions,[85] and copyvio.[86] OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 14:35, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Bishonen, you have made it even more simpler. Worm That Turned knew that protest is inevitable. Anyways, we have to look into the reason that why he imposed such a serious topic ban, regardless of no disruption. What he calls as "accusing of socking" is out of WP:AC/DS scope, socking remains on going, and I am still correct about them.[87][88] Clearly, he imposed the T-Ban just for righting that block by Swarm. He had nominated Swarm for adminship. Given his experience and understanding of WP:ARE, that he even misused a remainder having multiple meanings as a source to sanction. We must also see that how he solely targeted me, how about we check his own history? Forget WP:ARBIPA, or imposition of any WP:AC/DS T-Ban, he never even notified anyone about any of the AC/DS sanctions.(evidence)

Noting that he had discouraged me from filing SPIs,[89][90] that's how he was trying to establish this T-Ban, for life. It just happened that I got some precious time of Elockid, that he looked into evidence and blocked the socks, since that day(9 April), he hasn't been online. WTT didn't responded to these events, he ignored me for 3-4 days, until I made another message.[91] I doubt if he wanted to remove the T-Ban. He might have thought that his topic ban really has no merit and he has violated WP:AC/DS by imposing it. Since he had redirected me to WP:ARCA, I was just about to post there and soon I saw that he has removed the T-Ban.

On 21 April,[92] after seeing that I have been conquered, he would come up with a wide ranging non-AE topic ban, he would make sure to suppress any sources through which I could object to this T-Ban, thus time he would also include ban from seeking any kind of administrative actions i.e. contacting you(Bishonen) or anyone ever again. Since he declared his intention to indef block,[93] making me agree to his topic ban was very simple for him, he would block me for any edit that would contain any request for administrative action or even slightly resemble one. Topic bans are not for retaliation and disparagement. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 22:58, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Could I ask how you believe this topic ban was not clearly defined? Worm^TT(talk) 13:08, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Ok, that has nothing to do with the scope of the sanctions. Again, how was the scope of the topic ban not clearly defined? As for "not citing a single diff" - the relevant policy states I must properly explain my actions. I do not have to explain them in a manner of your choosing - I explained my reasoning and allowed for the possibility that you could be vindicated by an SPI. I do not believe the topic ban was disproportionate to the behaviour you were exhibiting around the the topic and to it's contributors. Worm^TT(talk) 13:54, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

I reject that absolutely and totally - Bishonen did not ask me to remove the topic ban, she asked me about one specific factor (whether you had been alerted to discretionary sanctions in the area). Bishonen, I apologise for dragging you over to an Arbitration case, would you mind commenting on this? Worm^TT(talk) 14:09, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Did no good? The article was stable for 2 weeks between 2 April and 16 April while your topic ban was in force. I don't know about doing "no good" - with hindsight, I should have left it in force. Worm^TT(talk) 14:28, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

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@OccultZone and Worm That Turned: I'll just respond to the questions raised above. Yes, after you e-mailed me, OccultZone, I researched what had happened that led to your topic ban — not in great detail, because there was a lot of it, and it was all new to me — but I checked out the timeline of events. Then I asked Worm That Turned in e-mail if you had been warned about the discretionary sanctions, and he replied directing me to where it was clear that you were aware of the sanctions before the topic ban. That was it. No, I didn't ask him to remove the topic ban, I left it to his discretion. Incidentally, while I told WTT that you had written to me, I haven't shared what you had written whatsoever, either in summary or quotation, because I assumed (as I always do with e-mail) that you had written me with an expectation of privacy. Bishonen | talk 19:33, 5 May 2015 (UTC).

Wheel warring

8) In a non-emergency situation, administrators are expected to refrain from undoing each others' administrative actions without first attempting to resolve the dispute by means of discussion.

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From Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Alkivar and Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Geogre-William M. Connolley. Clearly there was no "emergency" like high level vandalism when Nakon reinstated a previous block, for making a productive edit that had to do nothing with any of the previous blocks. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 05:06, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

HJ Mitchell blocked for a non-offense that had to do nothing with what was happening on a closed ANI section that I had closed myself a few hours ago, WP:DR is the policy that encourages you to raise your issues and complaints, there can be no action against raising the complaints unless there is an authorized sanction. There was nothing disruptive about this edit for which Nakon blocked. Yes it is wheel warring to reinstate an overturned block without gaining the consensus. Nakon never made even a single discussion anywhere, and this edit had to do nothing with any of the previous block. The various diffs, filled with productive edits that you have cited, they could be considered as blockable offense only: (1) If I was topic banned from those noticeboards. (2) If I was banned from interacting any of the users mentioned/participated on those sections. None of these policy based criteria met.

I have made many similar edits since then, but since the filing of this case, I am not seeing such non-policy based and inappropriate blocks as well as wheel-warring. I still haven't stopped posting on AN/I, SPI, etc. because I have been told that posting on those noticeboards is appropriate as long as there is no authorized topic ban.

Consider reading this case(Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Civility enforcement) for even 5 minutes, it was much more contentious but you would better know about the standards and also consider reading the WP:WHEEL. If a number of admins have been told to tell a user that he is disruptive and only those admins who have taken objectionable actions before, then the editor must has to go to the appropriate board for raising concerns over such misrepresentation of policies and that is what I have clearly done. Nick since you haven't cited even a single policy for backing your dispute, this principle is going to stand. If not, then tell us how this edit had any "mistake" or "behavioral problem" from which somebody can learn and improve. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 15:14, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Would you care to provide some diffs for those "several occasions"? Which warning your are talking about? There were no warnings before any blocks or this unauthorized topic ban. Edits have to be in violation of a policy, then only they can be dealt. Have you read above "Accusations of misbehaviour posted in this case must be proven with clear evidence (and otherwise not made at all)"? OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 11:55, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

I had asked for a "diff" prior to the block in question, or people telling in "several occasions" that I should not post on ANI/SPI, etc. I didn't asked for any of these[94][95][96][97][98][99][100][101][102][103][104] irrelevant and randomly picked replies that you have well misrepresented below. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 14:03, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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The proposed principle is of course correct, but completely irrelevant in this case, as there has not been one incident of wheel warring, no matter how frequently OccultZone repeats that there has been. The chain of events started when HJ Mitchell blocked OccultZone (following an enormous number of warnings from multiple uninvolved administrators [105]). The block (set for 72 hours) stood for around 33 hours and was removed by Magog the Ogre following a standard unblock request [106] (note also the admin shopping by requesting Floquenbeam, PhilKnight and Dennis Brown review the unblock request). The unblock request was accepted on the understanding that OccultZone would WP:DROPTHESTICK and Magog the Ogre specifically stated Please take the lesson from this, and avoid any future crusades, especially when people ask you to back down. He was reblocked by Nakon when it became apparent that he wasn't avoiding future crusades, and had resumed complaining about Nadirali [107], filing an SPI case about Sonic2030 [108] and involving himself in an ANI discussion about a rangeblock [109]. He was previously cautioned about such behaviour (crusading against users, refusing to back down when asked) earlier in April [110] [111]. Nakon's re-block was entirely in-line with policy and given the new disruption resulting from OccultZone's continued behaviour at that point, the block is completely acceptable. It can even legitimately stand on its own and not need to be considered a re-block for previous ongoing behavioural problems, but a new block for new continuing behavioural problems, something that would not apply to genuine wheel warring cases. I would also add that OccultZone doesn't get to decide what is and isn't a productive edit for the purposes of blocking and unblocking. That's something that the administrators are trusted by and elected on behalf of the community to decide. If we believe every disruptive user who disagreed that their behaviour was acceptable, productive etc, we wouldn't block anybody and you can imagine the chaos that would result from that. If lots of users, especially (but not limited to) administrators tell you your behaviour is disruptive, it's a good idea to believe them, understand their concerns and make improvements. Nick (talk) 11:50, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

This edit was disruptive because you were told several times to stop crusading against other users and were unblocked on the understanding you would not continue your crusades against other users. That you refuse to listen to your peers, learn from your errors and modify your behaviour is in evidence here, where three uninvolved administrators in this section alone (in addition to those who commented on your talk page and who made preliminary comments prior to the case being accepted) have said there was no wheel warring. To clarify why that edit can be considered disruptive, since you're not understanding that either - edits do not need to be in violation of policy to be disruptive, which is why we have topic banned people from commenting at RfA, from posting at ANI etc and indeed why we removed your AWB access. I've linked to evidence of you being told on several occasions, that your comments, SPI reports and general interjections at places such as ANI are disruptive, unhelpful and unnecessary. That you were blocked twice for failing to heed those warnings comes as no surprise to anybody, other than yourself, it seems.

When you actually grasp that your edits before the first block were disruptive and your edits before the second block continued a pattern of disruptive behaviour you agreed to stop in return for being unblocked, then you will understand how there has been no wheel warring. Nick (talk) 11:34, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

I don't know how much evidence OccultZone would like presented that shows multiple administrators warning him about his editing, admin shopping and general crusades against particular editors (not all warned that he would be blocked, I would expect any editor with more than a few dozen edits and a couple of months of experience would be fully versed in the rules which state disruption is behaviour for which you can be blocked, however). Warnings for adminshopping and SPI behaviour [112][113][114][115][116][117][118][119] Warnings from admins for pursuing a ban against Kumioko/Reguyla. [120][121][122][123][124][125][126]. Warnings from non-admins [127] Misleading closure of the Reguyla ANI thread [128]. Disruptive behaviour [129][130][131][132] (for which I warned him privately over) [133][134]. I trust that's sufficient evidence, it's certainly clear to my fellow administrators and I that there's a long standing pattern of disruption for which significant numbers of warnings have been given and significantly, enormous amounts of time and effort spent to try and improve OccultZone's behaviour without having to resort to blocking. The crux of the matter remains however, if OccultZone disputes that any of his behaviour was disruptive, we're never going to agree that blocking was acceptable and consequently, that no wheel warring occurred. Nick (talk) 13:36, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

To anyone familiar with policy, it is obvious that there was no wheel warring, and therefore, this proposal is irrelevant to the case. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 15:43, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Irrelevant to the case. All admins actions in this case had the same purpose. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:34, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

We could change the wording of this that admins should not unblock editors blocked by other admins expect very special occasions. Extensions of blocks still can be applied. In some occasions of the OccultZone case, the blocking period should have reset to complete the 72-hours block since the editor kept doing via their talk page and off-wiki routes the things that they have been doing and lead to their block. Unblocking an editor, even in good faith, while they keep actively violating a block should be discouraged. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:20, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

I would not go so far as to say that unblocking an editor blocked by another admin requires "very special circumstances." We do offer blocked editors the right to request an unblock review by a new administrator who was not a party to the block. Obviously unblocks should not be granted casually, and the views of the blocking admin should be solicited absent an obvious mistake, but there are still times when an unblock is properly granted even though the blocking admin disagrees. (This is a general observation, not relative to the facts of this or any specific case.) Newyorkbrad (talk) 19:39, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Just for the record, I have no complaints about Magog's unblock. He did solicit my opinion (by email) and I gave my rationale for the block, but even had he not done that, I wouldn't have begrudged an unblock by an uninvolved admin following a promise not to repeat the conduct that led to the block. I never would, because I think it's important that the reviewing admin be able to make an independent decision, and procedure is of secondary importance to the best interests of the encyclopaedia, which are not served by keeping a block that is no longer necessary just because the blocking admin is (for example) asleep. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:12, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Sock puppetry

9) Accounts and anonymous ips which mirror the behavior of another user may be treated as though they are that user.

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Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Kven#Sockpuppets. It is something that has been largely ignored in this whole incident. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 05:03, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

10 edits, all on same subject, same edits, same POV, same misrepresentation of sources, same timings and just for 2-4 days. Such habits indeed violates WP:SOCK. There are many ways to recruit meat puppets, as well as defeat CU just like Risker[135][136] had also defined. I am amazed how none of those SPIs ever thought about that. It was assumption of some WP:GREATFAITH(page exists?) towards the violators of multiple accounts policy that also caused many problems. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 12:46, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Editor was talking about both sock and meat puppetry, for a reason I mentioned meat puppetry above along with that sentence. Starting with "some of" the evidence, "its an article", though there were 2 articles, "nearly 40k views"(overestimation, it was 37k) when article had 78k views before but no socking. One of the most serious factor of any SPI, that we know as timings was a "coincidence", no doubt there was mass misrepresentation on that Bargolus's SPI and it came along with a failed prediction "some of these users will also agree on the same". Then because the suspect said "it was my brother", should we take those words and let it go? Show a policy or any other SPI that would support such kind of decision. What you will call to this kind of support[137][138] towards sock? OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 13:29, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes I see nothing wrong in being against accepting such an explanation, when it was revealed only after the SPI and it even if such idea had to be believed, the offender was aware[139], and finally it is impossible to have a brother who would sign in after 58 days in order to support his brother in an edit war and then retire. Yes my last question is clear, in place of totally accepting years old fact that this 216.81 extension is abused by a particular puppet master on specific articles, I would see more opposition. Apart from those 2 oppositions that I have linked there are more. Worm That Turned, who had previously discouraged me from filing SPIs,[140] would refer Sonic2030's SPI as "crusades",[141] and wanted to ban me from noticeboards including WP:SPI.[142] Swarm considered edits like this as non-vandalism. HJ Mitchell, who had some positive interactions with Kumioko would block me for him. Nakon, although not very clear, but evidently blocked me for this edit that concerned once a banned and long term socking editor. In order to support something that should be against me, we have seen massive support towards WP:SOCK violators in this whole incident. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 14:24, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Nick you had yourself included this diff and considered it as warning for "pursuing a ban against Kumioko/Reguyla". Best is to block the offender, the way Guerillo[143], Dougweller[144], Courcelles[145], etc. had done in my cases. Since the failure to appropriately deal with the sock puppetry is highly evident, I find it to be relevant. These issues were usually escalated because socks would receive extensive support. Starting from the first block, IP reverted 3 times, and for evading the 3rr, he made an account. IP is temporary blocked while account is indeffed in such situation, or no one is blocked but warned to stick to one account. None of these essential policy based measures took place. Then there was proposal of WP:SPI ban,[146] though I was correct on still-recent SPIs.[147][148][149] and currently contributing on at least 3 SPIs[150][151][152] one of them involves a banned editor. Let us think of that ban on WP:SPI again? It would've been proven to be harmful it it was implemented. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 15:26, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

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Yes, of course, and that's how administrators carry out their duties. This finding is too vague in the circumstances, given OccultZone's overzealous pursuit of what he believes to be sockpuppets. This finding, in this case, would effectively give OccultZone carte blanche to continue his extreme and damaging pursuit of sockpuppets. It needs to be realised by OccultZone that tens of thousands of people edit Wikipedia at any one time and controversial topics currently in the news attract many additional editors only interested in a narrow range of topics, or single articles. That doesn't make them sockpuppets or meatpuppets, though administrators may find it necessary to deal with users if they're disruptive single purpose accounts not here to contribute to the project in a constructive fashion. It's also important to think about what administrators would call "mirroring the behaviour of another user" before such a finding is passed. Mirroring the behaviour of another user means a little more than the evidence OccultZone routinely presents when accusing someone of being a sockpuppet and choosing to revert their edits. Administrators look through any publicly available IP or technical evidence present, review linguistic traits in edits made, review times and dates of the edits made, looking closely at those edits to see if specific sources or types of content are being used by the suspected sockpuppets. We either choose to block based on our experience or if unsure, we then pass on our evidence, either at SPI or in private to the checkusers and ask if they're able to confirm our suspicions. It's often only when a positive confirmation is received that we would block the sockpuppet and revert their edits if necessary and/or desirable, but not reverting edits which restore vandalism, copyright violations or which damage pages, for example. Nick (talk) 09:07, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

@OccultZone: are you alleging that Kumioko sought an administrator to block you ? I have difficult telling if that's what you're saying as your explanations are increasingly unclear bordering on the incoherent and unintelligible with increasingly vague and incredible accusations backed up by little or no evidence. What I do understand (I think) from your last comment is that you feel "we have seen massive support towards WP:SOCK violators in this whole incident." which is irrelevant as this case is about you and your behaviour. It's also untrue, what you call "massive support" is simply administrators using their discretion to best maintain the project, and again I'd say it tends to show that you expect administrators to do what you demand of them, rather than allowing administrators to use their own experience and discretion, as they're trusted by the community to do. Nick (talk) 15:03, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

@OccultZone: from the sockpuppetry policy page The main account may be blocked at the discretion of any uninvolved administrator. IP addresses used for sock puppetry may be blocked, but are subject to certain restrictions for indefinite blocks.. That's inconsistent with your submission above. There's no requirement to block either the IP address indefinitely (that would be an extremely rare but not completely unusual block as Bgwhite has shown above) nor is there any requirement to reset, change or extend the block on the main account, or even block it if it's not currently blocked, and it was well within my discretion as an administrator not to extend the block (just as it was within Floquenbeam's discretion to indefinitely block the Reguyla account). This seems to be another demonstration of you being upset when a specific course of action you demand of an administrator is refused. Nick (talk) 16:00, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

The proposal is too vague in this case, and therefore inapplicable. I point out the Zhanzhao SPI, where after being told that CheckUser evidence explicitly ruled out sockpuppetry, OccultZone continued for some time to press the case that certain accounts and IPs were sockpuppets of Zhanzhao. The principle is sound, of course, but it should not be used as authority for OccultZone to treat any account or IP as a sockpuppet based on their own judgement. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 12:17, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

OccultZone, Risker's comments are in relation to paid editing by multiple editors, not sockpuppetry by one person, so they are inapplicable here. Yes, CU can be circumvented, but in the case I mentioned, the evidence against sockpuppetry was clear. You cannot just assume that experienced CUs are being fooled when they tell you that accounts/IPs are unrelated. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 13:17, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

I am familiar with the discussion Risker was involved in, but once again, her comments there have no bearing on the case at hand. The idea that allows us to accept Zhanzhao's explanation is WP:AGF, something you repeatedly fail to apply, particularly in relation to this arbitration case. As for your last question[153], I have no answer because the question doesn't make sense. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 13:55, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Well, as it has become abundantly clear that you are still, to this day, arguing the same SPI, I have no more to say here. I trust the committee to determine whether this principle should be included or not. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 14:41, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Administrators not to act unless uninvolved

10) Administrators may not use their administrative tools in any situation unless they are uninvolved. An administrator will be involved, for the purposes of user-specific tools such as blocking, if they have a prior history of conflict with the affected user(s). An administrator will be involved, for the purposes of article-specific tools such as page protection, if they have previously substantively edited the content of the affected article(s).

Administrators should also refrain from action if there is doubt as to whether they are involved, or if they could reasonably be perceived as being involved.

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From this case. Given Bgwhite's prior involvements,[154] he was involved before he had unblocked me. He was even more involved before he would block me.[155][156] OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 13:16, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

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Use of administrative tools in a dispute

11) Administrators may not use their administrative tools to further their own position in a dispute.

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From Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Abd and JzG.

Bgwhite was WP:INVOLVED, thus he could not take any admin action in the incident. Other than protecting that article and moving on, as well as unblocking other 2 editors that he had done. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 13:45, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

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Irrelevant to this case. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:27, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Questioning of administrative actions

12) Administrators are accountable to their actions involving administrative tools. As such, they are expected to respond appropriately to queries about their administrative actions and to justify them where needed. Criticism of the merits of administrative actions is acceptable within the bounds of avoiding personal attacks and civility.

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From Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Abd and JzG. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 13:19, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

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Battleground conduct

13) Wikipedia is not a forum for the creation or furtherance of grudges and personal disputes. A history of bad blood, poor interactions, and heated altercations between users can complicate attempts to reach consensus. Inflammatory accusations often perpetuate disputes, poison the well of existing discussions, and disrupt the editing atmosphere. Discussions should be held with a view toward reaching a solution that can gain a genuine consensus. Attempting to exhaust or drive off editors who disagree through hostile conduct, rather than through legitimate dispute-resolution methods pursued only when legitimately necessary, is destructive to the consensus process and is not acceptable. See also Wikipedia is not a battleground.

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Good proposal from Rschen7754 below. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 09:15, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

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Proposed findings of fact

Nature of the case

1) The case request revolved around OccultZone and the admins who took actions in relation to OccultZone. The case was accepted to review the overall conduct of the named parties.

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Pretty much. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 12:40, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

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OccultZone

2) OccultZone (talk · contribs) has been editing since 23 August 2013 and has made about 217,000 edits. From 23 March 2015 - 21 April 2015, OccultZone has been subjected to 4 blocks, and a indefinite topic ban. When he had filed the ARC, he was under unauthorized topic ban.

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I don't agree with one that was proposed by WTT above. Anyone can propose this one. Some examples: 1, 2, 3. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 12:45, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Comments? OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 10:35, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

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The number of edits is not related to this case. What can be related is the edit ratio, edits per minute. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:37, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Swarm

Swarm's block

3) Swarm inappropriately blocked OccultZone and 3 other editors for reverting an individual that later came out to be a confirmed sock. Sock puppetry was already being discussed on WP:ANEW.[157] OccultZone had made only 1 revert in last 5 days and wasn't warned before the block.

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Lengthy and essential at both times, I will think more. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 13:01, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

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Swarm has been incivil

4) Swarm has been incivil in his communication about the case.[158][159]

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Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Date delinking raised such concerns too. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 16:08, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

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Swarm participation in discussing his actions

5) Swarm has not significantly participated in this case to defend his actions, despite being a named party to the case. Furthermore, Swarm did not provide a full rationale for the blocks that he had made for 3RR, even though there was no violation of that rule.

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Somehow similar to this remedy. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 16:39, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

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Bgwhite

Bgwhite's block

6) Bgwhite, while being an involved admin, blocked OccultZone after the incident that had been resolved.

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Now it is. Yes the issue was resolved and Bgwhite was involved. All he could do was ask other admin to block for a resolved issue. Basically anyone can confirm that no one would've blocked for it, and not even warned. But Bgwhite didn't wanted to miss the chance. He responded only when he saw that I am unblocked, still he couldn't make a policy based reason for block. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 16:42, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

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The incident was a WP:3RR violation. 3RR is an English Wikipedia policy. No evidence that it has been resolved has been brought in the Evidence page. 50 edits after the last reversion for a person that does hundreds per day is no that much and we did not know what would happen if an admin did not try to resolve the edit war. 3RR says nothing for a final warning because any other action after 3RR would be a 4RR. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:21, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Bgwhite used administrative tools in dispute

7) Bgwhite has used administrative tools in the dispute where he was involved.[160][161][162][163]

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Writing own content[164][165][166], arguing as a disagreeing editor for them,[167][168][169] and then protecting page after reverting to own version by abusing WP:ROLLBACK, speaks a lot about using admin tools on the article while involved. Bgwhite still continues to discuss as a disagreeing editor there,[170] he approached Worm That Turned to do the same,[171] however, WTT didn't, he knows that doing that would make him involved.[172] None of those edits[173][174] were vandalism or BLP violation where an involved admin was allowed to protect page. Thus explanations of his actions are not convincing, they only show your misrepresentation of policies. Administrators should not protect or unprotect a page to further their own positions in content disputes. I don't have to post on Bgwhite's talk page when he already read them on my talk page.[175] OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 17:51, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

@Magioladitis: Only that conversation related to WTT is something new, rest can be found at evidence. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 11:54, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

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Not actively supported by the evidence. Bgwhite has never made a substantive content edit to Rape in India prior to has administrative involvement in March 2015. He has made a total of two (or three, including bots) edits prior to the protecting the page on 23 March 2015 [176]. These are all AWB edits [177][178][179]. Bgwhite's page protection (full protection) and subsequent edits [180] were made in good faith to resolve the editing dispute, and were based around discussions with editors on the article's talk page (see Talk:Rape in India/Archive 1 and Talk:Rape_in_India/Archive_2). There was no complaint about being involved when those edits were made, to the relative satisfaction of all participants. Page protect then expired on 26 March 2015 automatically.

New edits were made by a series of anonymous editors (IP addresses) on 28 March 2015 resulting in an edit war breaking out [181]. This was correctly resolved by semi protecting the page [182]. The subsequent decision to increase the protection to full when the IP address switched to an autoconfirmed account is again correct [183]. I can't envisage any other administrator acting differently in the circumstances, and I agree with Worm That Turned [184] that Bgwhite wasn't involved. What I do see happening is something highly commendable - Bgwhite removed the second page protection he applied on 29 March 2015 [185] two days later, on 31 March 2015, when the first concerns about involvement were raised [186] even though later discussion agreed he wasn't technically involved. I would also like to raise at this point, OccultZone never directly contacted Bgwhite to complain about any administrative decisions [187] (as you can see, no messages left for Bgwhite on his talk page by OccultZone prior to OccultZone contacting Worm That Turned) but he was actively adminshopping at the time.[188]. Nick (talk) 17:40, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

I believe it would be useful for @Worm That Turned: to clarify here, as there appears to be several diffs where your claims regarding his behaviour do not match the diffs provided. Nick (talk) 18:09, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

I am not sure that all diffs were presented by OccultZone as evidence the week before. Workshop should not be used as a page to present new evidence -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:34, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Bgwhite's disruption

8) Bgwhite (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) has:

• claimed that OccultZone sent harassing emails to Swarm,[189][190] although this claim was rejected by Swarm.[191]
• engaged in battleground conduct by wikihounding,[192] favoring a sock,[193] even during the case.[194][195]
• has been incivil in his communication about the case.[196][197][198]
• misrepresented multiple events in order to get OccultZone blocked.[199]

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Pretty much like this and this. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 11:09, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

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Worm That Turned

Worm That Turned's topic ban

9) On 11:06 1 April 2015,[200] Worm That Turned had imposed an indefinite topic ban on OccultZone from "Rape in India" under WP:ARBIPA discretionary sanctions, regardless of any prior sanctions or warning related to to this topic ban. There was no disruption by OccultZone that discretionary sanctions could be applied. (evidence)

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Sounds fair. Given how we are handling things at WP:ARE, then there was was only one article in question,(WP:ABAN) list of objections is just huge. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 13:25, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

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Worm That Turned had removed topic ban

10) On 16 April 2015, Worm That Turned had removed the WP:ARBIPA topic ban.[201]

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No doubt. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 13:48, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

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Worm That Turned proposed another topic ban

11) On 21 April 2015, Worm That Turned had proposed a topic ban on OccultZone, that covered ban from any administrator boards, ranging from WP:AN to WP:SPI, as well as any other administrative actions for a duration of 3 months.

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Worm That Turned's stated intent to indef OccultZone

12) On 21 April 2015, Worm That Turned (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) said at User talk:OccultZone#An offer that:

"OccultZone, the needful is to up your block to "indefinite" for escalating the situation again. I'm very tempted to."

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Pretty much like this one

It had a chilling effect. Upon reading it, I was sorrowful. I was amazed that I contributed here, without violating any of the WP:FIVE, and I was having this day. Since WTT had already said it, others had no doubt that I will be indeffed anytime soon.[202][203] I thought that WTT didn't indeffed on sight because there was a controversy after his indefinite block on Eric Corbett,[204] and this time he had a different plan for indef block. It was to indef after seeing any edit on any admin board. It be also confirmed after reading this message, that came after ARC, he was still sure about the possibility of an indefinite block after any edits to the namespace. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 04:25, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

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Note: All remedies that refer to a period of time, for example to a ban of X months or a revert parole of Y months, are to run concurrently unless otherwise stated.

Swarm admonished

1) Swarm (talk · contribs) is admonished for conduct unbecoming an administrator, and for failing to adequately explain his actions when requested by Arbitration Committee.

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Pretty much like this one.

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Bgwhite admonished

2) For his violations of the standards of conduct expected of administrators, Bgwhite (talk · contribs) is strongly admonished.

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Bgwhite desysopped

3) For his violations of the standards of conduct expected of administrators, Bgwhite (talk · contribs) is desysopped. He may regain the tools at any time via a successful request for adminship.

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Worm That Turned admonished

4) Worm That Turned (talk · contribs) is admonished for imposing an highly inappropriate arbitration enforcement topic ban. (check)

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It is clear that he ever even notified anyone of WP:AC/DS,[205] nor he found even a single disruptive edit that was made by me, or any other requirements for discretionary sanctions. Apart from trouble in reporting socks, many articles [206][207] of my watchlist were having unnecessary edit wars where I could surely mediate the situation. Thus in every sense, this T-Ban was net-negative for en.wiki. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 11:42, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Nick your misunderstanding of WP:AC/DS speaks even better now. I was never made aware by Callanecc, your are misrepresenting him there. Do you have evidence if he ever posted that template on my talk page? I was aware of these sanctions much before,[208] none of that "behavior" has to do anything with this inappropriate topic ban or anything else related to this issue. The way you forcefully connect A and B to make a D is unhelpful. How about we see one of the recent example of my mediation? Have a look at this case, that "editnotices" was my idea that has been officially implemented, thus "suggesting" is not equivalent to "administer". You had any similar experience or WTT? I don't see that you had any experience in AC/DS.[209] Next time, kindly don't misrepresent these serious issues, especially when you are wrong about even discretionary sanctions awareness. This is not even the first time, you have misrepresented WP:AC/DS earlier too,[210] you were criticized by Sandstein and was told to "read WP:AC/DS#Awareness and alerts", and now I have to repeat that. Now back to WTT, how we can say that he was aware about these serious procedures when he never even discussed/logged one in his whole en.wiki or even notified? OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 15:56, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

I have already proven that I was aware of these sanctions much earlier, did I ever said that I wasn't? It is about the highly inappropriate topic ban that violates the WP:AC/DS, even if I was reminded 100 times. I guess you are still reading what WTT said and not the policies or what I said. We don't need any special investigation for checking awareness, because anyone can read the 3 requirements of discretionary sanctions awareness then check themselves, I even got a few editors topic banned in relation to this WP:ARBIPA. This reminder serves no purpose for any arbitration enforcement per Callanecc's own statement "not a warning so it doesn't need to be taken as seriously in future AE",[211] it has many meanings, articles can be also put under 1RR, it is not like "edit war again and user will be under 1rr". WTT was also clearly reminded of that, still he misconceived it,[212] and recently changed his interpretation, "as awareness" only.[213] Since he goes to topic ban me from administrator noticeboards for fair edits,[214] here it becomes serious issue when he takes actions about the things that he misconceived and even after being told about them. Wonder what could be clearer. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 18:11, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

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No. The Arbitration Enforcement Topic Ban was entirely appropriate given OccultZone's behaviour. What's more, it was made in the utmost good faith in an attempt to protect OccultZone from his own destructive actions. The other remedies against Worm That Turned are unsupported by any evidence submitted and appear purely to be vindictive. Nick (talk) 11:25, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Totally contradicted by the evidence available. OccultZone was made aware of the Discretionary Sanctions in January 2015 by Callanecc [215], also noticeable in that discussion is the fact that OccultZone was warned about his behaviour in January and cautioned that such behaviour could result in a block [216] with confirmation that was seen and acknowledged by OccultZone [217]. OccultZone's comments about mediating the situation do help our understanding of the situation - despite being an involved party, he has also tried to administer that particular issue [218][219]. Nick (talk) 14:45, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

@OccultZone: Sorry, but your name appears on the Arbitration Committee Discretionary Sanctions 2015 log [220] so if you don't believe you were correctly informed about this, this will need to be reviewed, something probably best done by the committee (either by an appeal or as part of this case). Nick (talk) 17:43, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Worm That Turned reminded

4) Worm That Turned (talk · contribs) is reminded to research more effectively in future arbitration enforcement actions.

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Little bit like this one.

Even if we are going to judge only what he imposed. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 11:08, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

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Worm That Turned restricted

5) Worm That Turned (talk · contribs) is indefinitely prohibited from taking any administrative action with respect to OccultZone.

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Pretty much like this one.

Previously he topic banned me, after that he wanted to topic ban from all administrative boards and admin actions, and he also stated his intent to indef. All of these actions were highly inappropriate. Time has proved it. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 11:08, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

In fact that temporary injunction has some ethics, it further encourages to take permission of the committee if the action is appropriate, I already did once.[221] Yes I don't hear even a "you will be blocked" since this case, just like I never heard it before 23 March 2015, though my activities across many namespaces had a significant rise. BTW, you forgot to point another temporary restriction, currently I am not making many edits because WTT asked not to and he "would be a lot happier".[222] OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 12:21, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

@Magioladitis: You are not understanding the scope. I am only talking about this case, where he has not taken contradictory actions against others, though it is clear that each of his administrative action that he had made in relation to me contravened the policies and standards. That's why it is proposed as appropriate. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 07:17, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

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As per my above comment. I'm also astonished that OccultZone claims that because he hasn't been blocked since the incident, his behaviour must have been acceptable during the incidents which ultimately resulted in this Request for Arbitration. That's not supported by the evidence and in any case, OccultZone has been subject to a Temporary Injunction as a result of continued unacceptable behaviour, as judged by the Arbitration Committee. Administrators do tend to be more reluctant to block or otherwise sanction a user who is listed as a party in a Request for Arbitration, instead the convention is for users to seek a Temporary Injunction rather than administrative actions such as blocking, unless the issue is entirely unconnected with the Arbitration Request. Nick (talk) 11:52, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

This proposal is really problematic. It means OccultZone trusts WTT to take administrative actions against other editors but not against him. This is not a personal vendetta and proposals like this again assume bad faith for unclear personal motives. -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:56, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

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Proposals by User:DoRD

Proposed remedies

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OccultZone Restricted

1) OccultZone is banned from making high-rate, large volume, and/or bulk edits from their main account (User:OccultZone), broadly construed. Examples of such edits are, but are not limited to, adding categories to articles, creating pages with WikiProject tags or adding them to existing pages, and adding portal tags to categories. For these purposes, high-rate is defined as more than 4 edits per minute, and large volume is defined as more than 20 similar edits per hour or 10 consecutive similar edits.

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That remedy is applicable only when their is use of an unauthorized bot account. Those linked edits are impossible with/for a bot. What "quality and accuracy" you are talking about? Until now, no one has found even a single disruptive edit per WP:DISRUPTSIGNS. I don't see any benefit in checking my contribution history just for finding a reason to block, and even more when it was always impossible to find one reason to impose such a block that would not contravene the blocking policy. Time speaks for itself, and it has been well established that I have made over 15,000 edits since the filing of this ARC, and significantly contributed on many namespaces, including SPI, ANI, ARE, DYKs, AfDs etc. and there has been no blocks, unauthorized topic bans, or anything. I ask why?

Reading the comments here, I would point to the fact that there has been no provision for easing someone's quest to find a reason to block, ever. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 05:43, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

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Per finding of fact 4.1.2.2.2, OccultZone makes such a high number of similar "bot-like" edits daily that it is extremely difficult, nearing impossible, to scrutinize their edits for quality and accuracy. Preventing those edits from being made with their main account would go a long way in improving the situation. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 22:10, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

I would expect some type of editing restriction(s) to be placed on OccultZone at the conclusion of this case, ensuring compliance with any editing restriction(s) will be challenging if there's a large number of automated/semi-automated edits to review. This or the similar proposal below will be necessary to more easily allow administrators to scrutinize OccultZone's edits. They will, given OccultZone's propensity for becoming involved with editing disputes, also allow administrators to swiftly and easily ensure any spurious reports against OccultZone can be dismissed and he's not unfairly sanctioned. Nick (talk) 22:28, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

@OccultZone: The Arbitration Committee has a lengthy history of restricting editors with sanctions to one account disclosed at all times to the Arbitration Committee. That's specifically so compliance with sanctions can be determined. If you don't intend to violate any sanctions placed against your account, you have nothing at all to fear from any measures put in place to allow administrators to more easily determine compliance. In any case, when sanctioned, the responsibility for compliance and for blocking becomes largely your own responsibility. Nick (talk) 09:18, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Yep. I think I may have misread these when I first looked, but I think the remedy works well. Ncmvocalist (talk) 14:30, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

High-rate editing account

2) OccultZone is instructed to create an alternate account for large-scale edits. Any and all edits proscribed by remedy 4.4.1.1 must be made using this alternate account. No other type of editing may be done through this account. If any type of bot, script, or other automation method is used for these edits, the account must have an approved bot flag.

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I am getting increasingly concerned regarding this, and a restriction regarding high-speed editing will likely appear in the PD. Thryduulf (talk) 10:05, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

@OccultZone: It is irrelevant whether the edits are automated or not, it is the speed and volume that are the issues not the method so I see no need for you to send us anything regarding this. The committee can choose to pass a restriction on any behaviour that is causing disruption, regardless of why. In this case your editing is too fast and voluminous for other editors to verify that you are making no mistakes which is as equally important as there being no mistakes. Thryduulf (talk) 11:04, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

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En.wiki has never labelled a manual editor as a bot. Anyone can edit like me, only if they spend some time in collecting the articles list, usually from Special:NewPages and create files for each subject on system. Remember that categories are usually added to the article by its creator, it is also helpful to revisit both popular and unpopular categories in order to get idea about new and months old articles. Sometimes many similar articles would miss some important elements, it is also good to check each that are falling under the same category. I have created many files for different purposes and preserved 2 of those files on here as well, check User:OccultZone/Yrs, User talk:OccultZone/Yrs, all of them are related to years. They all redirect to pages that are editable. Since their title is concise, it is also clear that what should be presented, on talk pages, {{WikiProject Years}} and sometimes {{WikiProject History}} would be added. You can simply copy and paste same thing after opening many windows and then click on 'save page', but make sure to read the title of the category first if it requires anything more. If it says "1958 in Lebanon", then {{WikiProject Lebanon}} is largely essential along with any other that I have mentioned. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 01:41, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

There is global consensus to add those categories, wikiprojects, portals, templates, sentences, etc. thus each of these edits are major, they are changing the face of the specific page and further standardizing. That's why you don't see any complaint on my UTP or anywhere about them. Since it is guaranteed that there are no errors, it really saves more time when it is done quicker, and you contribute more to the encyclopedia. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 03:56, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Replies to WTT. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 11:32, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
WTT you can check any other related page that is not edited by me, and they would look same. There's a reason why no one reverts/complains, they rather appreciates. If you have some real objection then go to those noticeboards and ask "Is it fine to add this wikiproject on related pages?", "Is it ok to add these portals", "Is it... add templates?", and so on. Yes there is global consensus, they are being used for what they were made. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 08:46, 11 May 2015 (UTC) Worm That Turned I think I answered it already, there would be a violation of those policies only if you can prove that an unauthorized bot has been used for making those edits. I can make it more easier for you, 9 different edits in 1 minute cannot be made by any bot.[223][224][225][226][227][228][229][230][231] Would you recall any other bot doing it? It involved a great amount of practice and other editors, including Fram had also contributed in making it better.[232][233] That's why I don't get what you find so wrong in them, other than easing your mission to find a reason to block, you can still focus on bytes added and open 5,000 edits in place of 50 edits, right? OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 06:53, 13 May 2015 (UTC) Then go write a script and consider making those edits? You can also ask Rich Farmbrough, who you know very well. May I know how long it will take you? Like I said, we need evidence if those edits are possible to make with any script or bot, which is different from speculating. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 07:46, 13 May 2015 (UTC) Well I just remember a statement that you had made. I find it worth it to mention him since he have those skills that will ease your quest in finding or making a relevant bot or script. I don't see any actual concern, I edit more because the more days have been passed without blocks and bans, and I find it encouraging. My files include over 700,000 pages that require major edits, they have to be completed as quickly as possible. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 08:27, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

@Thryduulf: Can I mail something to Arbcom regarding this matter or simply prove here that none of these edits are automated with a 2 mins video? BTW, there can be restriction on "high speed" only if the editing is introducing many errors, have I introduced any? OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 10:20, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

No policy talks about the speed. It is clearly not my fault if they cannot find reason to block, we would be only avoiding the contributions if we are going to focus on these non-policy based and never-seen-before proposals. It is better to tell them to go and clear the backlogs of WP:AIV, WP:UAA, WP:RFPP, WP:3RR etc. in place of searching my contribution history where you can never find a single disruptive edit.

Finally, that is why I had came here, because they continue to check my contribution history to make up a reason to sanction so any other prior mistake can be justified, and still their rationale contradict both banning and blocking policies. Hope I have clarified it. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 11:14, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Okay. Since Worm That Turned and DoRD insists, I can cease mass editing until 28 May. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 11:39, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Magioladitis, there is no need of specific permission as long as it is live and clearly managed that way. I am amazed that you don't know that. I have removed the semi-active status,[234] it is actively managed by many editors and had thousands of new pages in last months. There has been a number of active discussion in last few months, if there is zero activity in last 3 months, then maybe, still there has to be some specific announcement, stating that it doesn't require any tagging. Are you going to say that everyone needs specific permission on every board before making any related edit? If you are actually serious about it, then you should really consider raising these questions over there. But I am sure you won't since you know that your questions are misleading and there is no actuality.

I have only assessed those where I am very concerned. In that one[235] parameter was useless, but still redirected as appropriate. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 12:59, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

OccultZone, can you please link to some discussions that lead to this global consensus? I find it surprising as there are so many differences between projects. Worm^TT(talk) 08:29, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

High speed or high volume editing should have explicit consensus, that much is clear. "Other people do it" is not explicit consensus. The onus is also not on me to prove that there is consensus - I've shown which policies and guidelines I believe you are violating - a simple link to a discussion that gave you the idea it was ok to do would be helpful. Worm^TT(talk) 09:42, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Per my proposed principle 4.1.1.6 (and previous cases) inferences can be made based on speed, number, timing and consistency of edits. In my opinion, those edits look scripted, because I do not believe I could manually make those edits in that timescale, but I could write a script to do it. It is trivial to write a script to scrape a year from the page title and update a category, or in the case of the one above to replace [[Category:X by country|Canada]] with [[Category:X by country|Canada]][[Category:X in North America]] as X is the same in both. But, bot or not, this is a good solution to the problem - your high speed editing should be kept separate from your non high speed editing. Worm^TT(talk) 07:38, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

I know Rich Farmbrough very well? Been having more discussions off-wiki? I've spent a bit of time with Rich at Wikimania, and met him once before - but all my contact with him has been related to the Rich Farmbrough case during my time as an arbitrator. I wouldn't say I know him well, let alone very well. But that's beside the point - I can name two arbitrators who I am absolutely certain could write a simple bot which had the ability to make those edits and I'm sure there are others who could, but if the arbs would like me to write something up, I'd be happy to.
OccultZone, as you're asking me all these questions, can I ask you one? A number of editors here have raised concerns about your high speed editing. Rather than stopping for a couple of weeks whilst the case is on-going, or even reducing your speed, you appear to have actually increased the speed you are editing at. 5000 edits now goes back 5 days, at the beginning of the case it went back 2 weeks. Can I ask why? Worm^TT(talk) 08:13, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

OccultZone, could I suggest that, as a sign of good faith, you stop your high speed editing until the case is closed? I ask because in the past 4 hours you've made over 1200 edits - in other words sustaining over 5 edits per minute for 4 hours. There's no deadline, the editing can wait for a couple of weeks. I, for one, would be a lot happier to know you are taking criticism on board and I expect the committee would be too. Worm^TT(talk) 11:37, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you OccultZone. Worm^TT(talk) 11:41, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

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Alternative to remedy 4.1.3.1.1. As OccultZone continues to maintain that they are not using any scripts or other automation tools, this proposal broadens the scope to include any high-rate, bot-like editing. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 22:10, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

OccultZone, I don't see how your response addresses this (or even the previous) proposal. I'm concerned not so much with what you're editing, but with the rate, quantity, and quality of edits you're making. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 02:35, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

OccultZone, you say, "My files include over 700,000 pages that require major edits, they have to be completed as quickly as possible." Why the rush? Why can't these edits wait until after the conclusion of this case? The project won't cease to function if those edits aren't made, and even if the edits are necessary, there is no deadline. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 11:32, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

If this remedy was imposed in addition to the above, I'd suggest it more clearly note the alternate account can be used for large-scale edits only (to signal that the same issues cannot to arise in respect of the alternate account). Ncmvocalist (talk) 14:30, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Good point. I have updated my proposal to include this restriction. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 14:50, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

OccultZone recently adds banners of WikiProject Years. This WikiProject is semi-active. there is no discussion I can find that the WikiPrject really needs the banners added by OccultZone. The project had 3 new members in the last years and 1 new member in 2014. It is not clear to me that the projects wants mass tagging of pages. The questions is not whether OcultZone has permission to add banners, since every editor can add banners for a project, but whether OccultZone knows in which pages wants the Wikiproject to add banners or which class/importance settings the projects wants. For example [236]. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:47, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Proposals by User:Rschen7754

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Battleground conduct

1) Wikipedia is not a forum for the creation or furtherance of grudges and personal disputes. A history of bad blood, poor interactions, and heated altercations between users can complicate attempts to reach consensus. Inflammatory accusations often perpetuate disputes, poison the well of existing discussions, and disrupt the editing atmosphere. Discussions should be held with a view toward reaching a solution that can gain a genuine consensus. Attempting to exhaust or drive off editors who disagree through hostile conduct, rather than through legitimate dispute-resolution methods pursued only when legitimately necessary, is destructive to the consensus process and is not acceptable. See also Wikipedia is not a battleground.

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I was searching for this, and I found a few, such as this one. Although they largely concerned some content dispute. The one you have proposed is coherent. Apart from misrepresentations, false accusations, retaliatory topic bans, blocks, another example of battle ground mentality would be that Worm That Turned,[237][238] and others[239] who refer my non-offensive editing as "crusades". Use of that word in wrong context is so unacceptable that even Vladimir Putin was criticized for using it.[240][241] OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 05:15, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

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From Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Banning Policy. --Rschen7754 05:11, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Yep. Ncmvocalist (talk) 11:00, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

The battleground conduct is even on display in these case pages. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 14:44, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

The battleground conduct is evident, but since there are more 'combatants' on one side of the battlefield with bigger guns (tools) the outcome may be predictable. I say we 'fire' the 'current combatants' and bring in fresh, new administrators with no prior history or involvement in this battle.  Bfpage |leave a message  12:06, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Proposals by User:Bfpage

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Administrator misconduct

• WP:TOOLMISUSE
• WP:RAAA

"Ganging up on another editor"

This principle is not a guideline or policy I can find with a "WP:" prefix, but after doing a search I see that it has come up numerous times in other arbcom cases and so I feel it is appropriate to list it here.

Non-involved, unaffiliated editor

Firstly, please assume in good faith that I am doing my best to follow the guidelines posted on this page that describe my participation in this process. I have not submitted comments in a case like this before and only found out that 'this' was happening because I sometimes visit OZ's talk page.

Again, please allow me to comment and I will try and edit to conform to the guidelines posted on this page. I have not been contacted by OZ to become involved with this case. I have been following some of his edits for the purpose of learning from someone who has much more experience than I do and have learned much about building the encyclopedia from him and his edits. I admire his work and was completely confused by all the discussions taking place on his talk page with blocks and bans and 'patient' instruction from administrators. I was struck by OZ's patient replies. I don't know if this is the right place to make this comment, but I believe this is a valid case and should be opened, I support that an investigation continue according to what OZ has written about his treatment and bans.

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I have a novel solution/suggestion to really determine 'who' is the problem in this case. I propose a ban on all the adminstrators from interacting with OZ for a period of a month or six weeks. I would then ask the arbcom committee to invite other uninvolved administrators, with a history of NOT being accused of misusing their 'tools' to evaluate the editing of OZ while he/she continues to build the encyclopedia during the ban. If OZ is the problem, the new, uninvolved administrators will pick up on that and OZ's habitual misconduct will either be confirmed or discounted.

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I honestly liked this proposal, but I believe that remainder/admonishments would certainly do that. If any of those accusation had no sound, I would've been blocked for that much earlier. But that's the point and serious problem is that there is not even a single policy based block.

What is more amazing that the time has also provided some better understanding, that the block and ban spree wholly stopped after this ARC filing. I don't even hear "you will be blocked", even though my activities across all those namespaces had a great rise. Blocking people uselessly, is actually harmful for en.wiki. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 12:18, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

That would further promote the violation of blocking and banning policy. I mean this sort of disruption was far more blockworthy than anything I ever did. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 12:27, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Actually Magioladitis, if a site ban passes, the other remedies should not be considered moot. A significant number of banned editors do return - and the other remedies should be recorded in the event of a return. Worm^TT(talk) 12:33, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

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I wonder which problem is this going to solve. We have 4 involved admins here that they all blocked OccultZone but we have other 10 or more that interacted with OccultZone. This proposal would mean that every editor that accuses an admin of misusing their tools can ask for a non-interaction and get away without a block. This is very dangerous especially for editors with history in blocks. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:07, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Since it is the administrators who are being accused of misconduct in this case, perhaps one first step is to see if they have been confronted by editors or other administrators about misusing their tools. Is there a history of misconduct with the administrators? (I would expect the answer to be 'no') And are you also saying that 14 administrators(!) are following him around, checking up on him, timing him between edits, recording the seconds between his reverts? There are four pretty-much-involved editors here that all have blocked OZ; probably lacking a NPOV in this case against him. As an un-involved observer of the discussions on OZs talk page, the blocking and banning was making my head spin! Finding un-involved administrators would

• de-escalate the situation
• give the involved administrators a break
• clear the battlefield
• let OZ get back to editing WP:HERE
• bring in new, neutral, uninvolved administrators to see if OZ is really doing all the things the four-really-involved editors say he habitually does.  Bfpage |leave a message  12:41, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

If the proposal for site ban passes all other actions will be moot. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:24, 15 May 2015 (UTC) I agree with Worm That Turned. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:47, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

It's clear that OccultZone tries to divert the case from him.[242] This comment was not even answering to the initial proposal. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:33, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

The behaviour that is a cause for concern has continued during this case, resulting in OccultZone being placed under a Temporary Injunction by the Arbitration Committee. The Arbitration Committee meet your definition of new, neutral, uninvolved administrators. The case should proceed normally in these circumstances and the stated goals, to examine the behaviour of OccultZone and all other parties should be met. Nick (talk) 16:26, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Bfpage The case is titled "OccultZone and others" which means that the behaviour of all the named parties is being investigated. This would be ongoing, I expect, but you would need to ask the Arbitration Committee. Nick (talk) 22:52, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Are you saying that the conduct of the administrators is not being investigated? Have these new, neutral, uninvolved administrators found no problems with abuse of administrator tools? That was pretty quick.
  Bfpage |leave a message  21:50, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

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Wikipedia is not a bureaucracy

1) Wikipedia is not a bureaucracy, and its internal administrative and dispute-resolution processes are not a legal system. Although in most cases disruptive conduct will be in violation of one or more policies, it is not necessary for a specific policy to be violated in order for an editor's conduct to be disruptive or unconducive to the encyclopaedia. Policy is intended to be a description of practice rather than an exhaustive list of rules and as such there cannot (and in some cases should not) be a policy against every form of disruptive editing. Administrators must use a combination of policy and common sense in order to effectively discharge their duties.

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Proposed. I don't intend to make any further proposals for the time being but I'll monitor progress on this page. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:56, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Liked how you have attempted to explain the proposal. Still, blocking is a serious issue. Well, some even think that there should be a block for POV and civil POV pushing, but that is not clearly supported by policy, it has to be backed up with other reasons. You have handled many of the cases around, including those of WP:ARE, thus I had never expected such a block from you. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 17:16, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

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Proposals by User:Zeke Essiestudy

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OccultZone blocked

1) For raising bad-faith accusations and drama about Zhanzhao to at least 28 administrators, refusal to accept the outcome, and refusal to get over a resolved SPI that had no action taken, OccultZone is blocked for a period of 6 months by the Arbitration Committee.

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In that case, we just have to enforce the WP:SOCK policy and refrain from sympathizing. @Zeke Essiestudy: It is not a bad faith accusation or drama when you have proven 6 years of on-going sock puppetry, nor it is incorrect to challenge the never seen and misleading outcome about someone who has socked since their first day and also had been blocked before. I would of course reject such conflicting outcomes and such SPIs are not resolved until there is some proper policy based restriction. If there is contradiction with WP:SOCK#Blocking policy, then we are going to have a lot of problems. I didn't contacted 28 admins for that.

BTW, how did you managed to make this up? Your first edit is from 1 April 2015. We had no interactions that would eventually prompt you to interfere in these matters. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 06:43, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

And what's giving you the idea I'm gaming the system? I'm seeing disruption in your recent posts at ANI and SPI and I think something should be done about it. Zeke Essiestudy (talk) 16:23, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Concerning that problem, you omitted that there was a resolution,[243] and Salvidrim! was criticized for the attitude that you have mentioned below.[244] Thus it was authentic to carry it on, I didn't wanted another case where sock puppetry would be vindicated after taking the suspect's words that were contrary to the facts. This arbitration request has to do nothing with all that, it just shows my ability to resolve the matter and end all conflicts, no one complains about that AN. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 14:15, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Many administrators have told you to drop the issue but you apparently kept going. See this, where Salvidrim! agreed on you being indefinitely blocked "if you didn't agree to drop the fucking stick immediately". Granted, I feel as though Nakon jumped the gun for reblocking you over adding a link to something useful, but I believe that you insisting that Zhanzhao is socking (and who knows who else you did this for) is what led to this arbitration request. Zeke Essiestudy (talk) 13:33, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

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OccultZone banned

1.1) OccultZone is banned from the English Wikipedia for a period of no less than 6 months. After that, OccultZone will remain banned indefinitely, but will be allowed to appeal his ban, and then every 6 months afterwards.

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I prefer Nick's proposal. Ncmvocalist (talk) 08:38, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Worm TT suggested an indef ban would be a better solution. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:21, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

This proposal states that OccultZone will be banned for 6 months, then indefinitely, but he will be allowed to ask a reconsideration of his ban every 6 months. Zeke Essiestudy (talk) 16:23, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

I wonder if we should extend this ban to "wikipedia e-mail" zone. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:25, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

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Enforce interaction bans

1) If OccultZone begins to admin shop or raise bad-faith accusations (including alleged sock puppetry or disruptive editing) against any user he is in a dispute with, he may be blocked for a period of no less than 2 weeks and an indefinite interaction ban will be activated. He may appeal any interaction bans 6 months after they are set in motion, and every 6 months after.

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Dragging out sockpuppet investigations

2) Any attempt to drag out a SPI after it's closed against users he's in a dispute with that are confirmed not to be socking will be reported to the Arbitration Noticeboard. Additionally, a SPI clerk may ask OccultZone to stop posting to SPI if this happens.

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Analysis of OccultZone's evidence

Response to Problems with T-Ban The topic ban was solely targetted at OccultZone because I thoroughly reviewed his behaviour and found issue. I looked into the circumstances around the topic, but my focus was on the blocks and OccultZone's behaviour. It was important that the ban went further than just the article, because he was making multiple accusations of sockpuppetry which were unproven and, in multiple cases, wrong. The reminder mentioned served as awareness that DS was available in that area.

Most importantly, nominating an individual for adminship is not necessarily an indication of involvement. You can see how much we interact - almost not at all.

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I'm disappointed in the bad faith shown to me, based on the hard work I put in looking into the case, at OccultZone's request. Worm^TT(talk) 08:01, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

OccultZone, you are saying that every single action I've taken, and opinion I've given, since I started looking at this case was taken in bad faith as I had nominated Swarm for adminship. Time and again you have dismissed people's opinions for frivolous inaccurate reasons and you refuse to take any personal responsibility yourself. Worm^TT(talk) 09:21, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

I'm simply stunned, if it needs to be said - I'm not orchestrating anything. Worm^TT(talk) 13:04, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Had you told that you nominated Swarm for adminship, I would've never talked with you ever again and never about this matter. I had some experience about such situation, I can recall many, but for easing this, I would recall a very recent(to that event), check [245][246][247] you can realize how these comments are overtly-positive to a single side and contrary to policy as well as what actually happened. Know why? Because editor in question was the nominator of the admin in question, just like you were for Swarm. Don't you know that CU is not a magic pixie dust and IPs can be spoofed? How could you say that I was totally wrong when same accounts were adhering to same POV and using same edit summaries[248][249][250][251][252][253] all the time. Whoever I was accusing, why you never recognized that I had exposed the abuse of multiple accounts policy that was on-going for over 6 years? Also that it stopped only after an SPI and these accounts were abused on same ban discussions, AfDs, just similar namespace. Finally, I have no CU user right still I could find IP extensions used by these multiple editors in last 7 years, which is even more than what CU could do. Although you had CU user right for a long time,[254][255] I had asked you to look at my evidence, and you never did. Just say that you only made my way harder. Sock puppetry is still on-ongoing and I am proven to be correct again and again. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 22:31, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

I have already explained how each of my accusations had merit and WP:AC/DS cannot be used for suppressing sock puppetry allegations. I had positive sock investigation record since June 2014 concerning this article. I had requested you not to impose a WP:ARBIPA ban, on whoever it has been imposed, they virtually lose credibility and I lost so much of recognition because of you. Callanecc was now neglecting me, something I could never imagine of. Would you like to take responsibility for all that? OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 09:43, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

No offense to Callanecc, he was not talking to that editor who he was willing to help all time, but he was talking to an editor who is now indefinitely topic banned. Such topic ban is itself synonyms for "very bad editor". I am just pointing what a negative atmosphere was now constructed by WTT, the more you are against me, the more praise you will receive. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 11:34, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Nick, you got that right, that's what I meant to say. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 12:46, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

What I want anyway? Vindication from sanctions, due to their violation of blocking/banning policies? While so many of you actually want me to be restricted to something or even site banned, I mean seriously? If I did something wrong by questioning these blocks/T-bans that even contradicted our usual standards, then I would ask if you hope that any other editor should be blocked/T-Banned same way I have been. I am sure you would say no. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 13:47, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

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I agree. I'm shocked and appalled at the bad faith shown to everybody who has tried their utmost to help OccultZone avoid the community ban he was walking headlong into. I say was there, because he's now running flat out into a ban, I fear. Nick (talk) 10:16, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

@OccultZone: I'm especially troubled by the phrase "Callanecc was now neglecting me" which again shows bad faith. Wikipedia is a volunteer project, all editors have lives outwith the Wikimedia bubble and those of us with advanced permissions still enjoy other activities, such as content creation, photo editing or working on other projects within the bubble, so to speak. It's grossly unfair to expect any one editor, administrator, checkuser or arbitrator to jump when you demand it of them, and you can not and must not expect their undivided attention continually and constantly. To my mind, it shows OccultZone believes administrators to be personally subservient to him, and not the community we all agreed to serve. It's possibly the root cause of the entire case. Nick (talk) 11:19, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

@OccultZone: I don't understand your evidence. Are you suggesting Worm That Turned is orchestrating a campaign of some sort against you, if not, what is the meaning of "the more you are against me, the more praise you will receive." ? Nick (talk) 12:08, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

OccultZone, I thought we had both mutually agreed to NEWSTART [256] after AN. And you had further made a promise on AN to other admins to that same effect [257]. I want to know if you still intend to pursue your vendetta against me before I say more. I really want to hold on to your request for clean start, but you are making it hard for me to do so. Zhanzhao (talk) 23:39, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Further analysis of OccultZone's evidence

I'll keep this brief. The evidence submitted by OccultZone [258] is inaccurate. OccultZone refers to Kumioko (or Reguyla) as being a banned editor, whilst he was previously the subject of a community ban, this was lifted and replaced with a 6 month block (explicitly named as such) as a result of Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/User:Kumioko ban review on 26 August 2014 (OccultZone did not take part in this community discussion, so may have been unaware). This block was reset as a result of talk page misuse on 23 November 2014 and was reset again on 24 February 2015 for block evasion. Kumioko was therefore two months into a six month block when OccultZone requested he again be banned.

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At the right time I had changed it to "block evader", Beeblebrox still refer him as "ban-evading".[259] He wasn't banned that's why I requested that or atleast some increase in block length. Finally, going by my contribution history and unnecessarily editing the page that I have just edited is very definition of wikihounding. I have history of removing sock comments[260][261][262][263][264], Guerillero had also removed when I mailed for oversighting.[265] No one body ever made any objection because no one like WP:SOCK violators. This is the first time I saw sympathy for a long term sock puppeteer anywhere, ever. It was just unbelievable. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 03:36, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

There was no need for you to write on Favonian's talk page, because nothing concerned you anymore. Thanks for pointing that policy, previously I referred it as WP:EVADE, now after all this I happened to miss those good links. Anyways, but you don't present that which policy avoids you from treating socks as appropriate. You had restored the bug report[266], although it could be still accessed through history. If we keep sock edits and block those who oppose them, then we are doing it against every principle. I never saw anyone keeping sock edits ever before, unless they were reversion of vandalism. There is no harm in removing their edits, by removing them, you encourage them to file authenticated unblock request and reform. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 11:38, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

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I'd also point out, OccultZone's evidence calls this diff [267] an unblock request I made on behalf of Kumioko, when it's Floquenbeam closing a discussion. OccultZone has been told repeatedly on the Workshop page that I have discussed unblocking Kumioko, but I have not made an unblock request on behalf of Kumioko (there was one made by Tiptoety which OccultZone may be confusing my comments with). The accusation of wikihounding is entirely unsupported by the evidence presented, and wholly unacceptable. I block an IP address that OccultZone wanted blocked (for which he thanked me immediately afterwards [268]) but when I refused to extend the block on the main account, my response to his wikishopping on Favonian's talk page is retrospectively considered wikihounding. Finally, I'm not seeing Favonian condemning OccultZone's block at [269]. Nick (talk) 20:22, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

I was visiting Favonian's talk page to inform him I had blocked an IP address Kumioko/Reguyla was using to evade his block, in much the same way I left Beeblebrox a note concerning the IP address he had been speaking with. When I arrived, I found OccultZone asking Favonian to increase the block length without informing Favonian that I had previously refused his request [270]. The idea this is somehow wikihounding is laughable. It is entirely normal behaviour (and best practice) for administrators to speak to the blocking administrator about our interactions with users they've blocked, especially if it concerns block evasion, sockpuppetry etc. Finally, I'd like to yet again remind OccultZone about WP:DENY. It's being thrown about like it's the most important policy on Wikipedia, but of course, it's not a policy, it's only an essay, and one which concerns vandalism, not sockpuppets and block/ban evaders. The relevant policy is Wikipedia:Blocking_policy#Evasion_of_blocks where it quite clearly states administrators "may" reset the block in light of evasion, but does not make resetting a block compulsory. It also states that edits made by blocked users whilst evading their block may be reverted, but it's not compulsory to do so. The Bug Report that OccultZone edit warred over (discussed below) was something that Magioladitis wanted restored as an AWB developer, and something I wanted restored as a Commons administrator, we both had entirely acceptable reasons (supported by policy) for restoring that particular group of edits by Kumioko. Nick (talk) 10:50, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Same here. I had to fight over a AWB bug report [271] which was about AWB's behaviour in commons.wikipedia. Right now, AWB uses this page as a place to report AWB bugs form all projects. OccultZone rollbacked a report with no explanation [272] and later insisted after he was reverted. Btw, AWB bugs page is soon moving in phabricator. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:45, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

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