Talk:Cortana (virtual assistant)

I'm not good at writing Wikipedia articles...

And as I don't want to leave a mess I want to request a more experienced writer to make a background or history section for Microsoft's Cortana based on (http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/news/features/cortana-041614.aspx) from Microsoft Research telling about the creation of Cortana dating back in 2009. --86.81.201.94 (talk) 18:27, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

microsoft-cortana.com

Hi.

Just a notice. Whois results indicate that this website is not owned by Microsoft. Please exercise caution.

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 09:15, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Yes I said that it's fine to put that link even if it's not owned by Microsoft. The download is not malware it's coming from official Microsoft download page to the user.--Corti45 (talk) 12:03, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

The download is genuine from Microsoft www.windowsphone.com . I don't see any problem with that. --Corti45 (talk) 12:07, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

No, it is not fine. If it is not the official website, per Wikipedia:External link policy, we are not interested in it. Besides, the web site and the IP address advertising it are both from Istanbul, Turkey, according to whois. And I did detect malware in it.

You are engaged in edit warring. I had warned you once. The prudent thing to do was to stick with WP:BRD until a third person check the website. But I do think you are affiliated with the IP address.

Best regards,

Codename Lisa (talk) 15:27, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Siri

I believe the word Siri should appear in this article, as Cortana is clearly influenced by it and is competing with it.

I wrote "Some people see it as Microsoft's alternative to Siri" and gave a reference. This was reverted. I agree "Some people" is not the best phrasing, I do not want to start an edit war, and I'd support any phrasing, but I believe ignoring Siri is wrong.

What do you think?

עמיר רהט (talk) 08:26, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

@עמיר רהט: Is there any sound reference directly supporting this viewpoint? I think we should, at least, have a "See also" at the end of this article, listing several other related products. As for the edit reversion you're encountering, I guess Codename Lisa would like to join the discussion. :D --Kou Dou 09:18, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi. When I said "weasel word", I wasn't nitpicking on some word. (It's not worth the trouble in Wikipedia; the benevolent way of just fixing it works for the best.) Weasel words give the impression of a source being in existence while there is none. Mary Jo Foley mentions the word "Siri" twice and it the second instance, she uses it as a synecdoche for personal digital assistant; there is no evidence that any person or people believe such thing, let alone their opinion have due weight.

As for being influenced by Siri, that's the old child's quarrel of who stole an idea from who, in which a Wikipedian must not partake. We do know that Siri did not influence Cortana for sure because the original Cortana of Halo predates Siri; before that, there is an entire fleet of fictional digital assistants in literature and fiction, like HAL 9000 and Jarvis. Even the synthesized speech technology of Siri didn't have any influence because Microsoft have been integrating it into Windows since Windows 2000. And there was an experimental personal digital assistant for MSN Messenger too.

Best regards,

Codename Lisa (talk) 12:42, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Corrections to the article

I fixed two things in the article: 1) the use of "NBL" instead of "NBA" 2) The use of "metres" instead of "meters" (the latter one is correct because we're talking about a product developed by Microsoft, an American, not British, company, based in Redmond, WA, USA). I hope my corrections do not make editors angry. I just think that if a company like Microsoft is American the article should avoid Briticisms like writing "metres" instead of "meters". --Marce 10:45, 6 February 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fandelasketchup (talk • contribs)

I added those mistakes there, I'm not quite familiar with U.S. American sports culture so I accidentally mistyped it, thank you for correcting it. As for the the latter I'd state that Microsoft though originally an American company is quite an international company, in fact ovrt 50% of its employees are European (especially since the addition of the Finnish Microsoft Mobile Oy), so my European English is not as misplaced as you'd think, but your chauvinism isn't completely misplaced either as Wikipedia was also founded by an American. :-P

Sincerely, --Namlong618 (talk) 01:37, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Cortana is not available in Australia, proven by http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/cortanas-regions-and-languages this article. I don't want to change the page because I'm not good at it, but if someone could, that'd be great :) TheScottymo (talk) 01:07, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Need a footnote

Hello editors,

Please help me add a footnote to several sentences, beginning with "Users in certain countries in Europe can also choose to opt-in to the alpha for the French, German, Italian, and Spanish versions of Cortana as of August 2014." What I tried to add was the following code:

Users in certain countries in Europe can also choose to opt-in to the alpha for the French, German, Italian, and Spanish versions of Cortana as of August 2014.<ref group=note>Cortana in non-English versions are only available through the [[Preview for Developers]] program at this time.</ref>

Cortana has been released in several countries since its launch including the United States, the United Kingdom, China, Canada, Australia, India, France, Germany, Spain, and Italy and is expected to come to more countries over time.<ref group=note />

{{reflist|group=note}}

And the result should be the following:

Users in certain countries in Europe can also choose to opt-in to the alpha for the French, German, Italian, and Spanish versions of Cortana as of August 2014.

Cortana has been released in several countries since its launch including the United States, the United Kingdom, China, Canada, Australia, India, France, Germany, Spain, and Italy and is expected to come to more countries over time.

Under Notes and References should be

I do not know why the note did not appear after the second sentence. I plan to apply the footnote to several other places within the article, but if I can't do so here, I'm sure I can't do so there. Can anyone please help?

Thank you! <<< SOME GADGET GEEK >>> (talk) 14:54, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Sure, Some Gadget Geek, do you have sources for the information that you'd like to put in notes?

By the way, there's another way to do notes {{efn| }} for the note and {{notelist}} under the Notes section - as an option that's a little easier to work with.--CaroleHenson (talk) 16:06, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Hello, Carole, and thank you for your response. My source for the footnote is as follows:

Code for the source if you need it is as follows:

<ref name=AlphaInfo>{{cite news|title=Cortana alpha for Windows Phone 8.1|url=http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/how-to/wp8/cortana/cortana-alpha|accessdate=18 March 2015|work=Windows Phone How-to|agency=Microsoft|date=5 December 2014}}</ref>

Your help is much appreciated! <<< SOME GADGET GEEK >>> (talk) 16:39, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Some Gadget Geek, I'm  Done and closing the request. This page is still on my watchlist, though, so if there's something that needs tweaked, leave me a note and I'll be back.--CaroleHenson (talk) 06:57, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Windows 10

When Windows 10 launches I want to add the template "Microsoft Windows Components" underneath the article, but I was wondering if I should wait until the official R.T.M. or could do it right now, anyhow Microsoft Cortana is a built-in component of Windows 10 so eventually Microsoft Cortana will be mentioned in the template, but I wonder if it's best to wait for later as product announcements don't translate to reality, but as Windows Holographic is mentioned I wondered if moving it in a little early would fall under WP:CRYSTAL or not. Sincerely, --86.81.201.94 (talk) 19:45, 30 April 2015 (UTC) (Alternatively Namlong618)

Requested move 11 August 2015

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Withdrawn by nominator. Clearly there won't be consensus for this move yet, though I still think it's worth considering in the future. Cúchullain ^t/c 12:53, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

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• Cortana (software) → Cortana
• Cortana → Cortana (disambiguation)

– It seems clear that Microsoft's Cortana personal assistant has emerged as the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of the name Cortana. It receives several times the page views of all potentially ambiguous articles combined: it was viewed 156,286 times in the last 90 days under its old name, and 26k in less than two weeks under the name Cortana (intelligent personal assistant). In comparison, there were 45015 for Cortana (Halo) and 1037 for Cortana (gastropod), as well as 13517 for Curtana (which is sometimes spelled "Cortana", but much less frequently than "Curtana"). It seems pretty clear this article is what a large majority of our readers are looking for. Cúchullain ^t/c 19:09, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

• Oppose - Given that this just came out it may very well be a blip in views, rather than a lasting thing. I think it's premature to make that call right now, especially since Cortana (Halo) has over twice the page views in the past 60 days, compared to this article, 44687 compared to only 26064. Per day views seem to be a bit larger for this article but again, this is a brand new software and it's too soon to see if that's a lasting thing. - Aoidh (talk) 22:57, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

• Oppose - long-term significance is questionable. Blank Space, another article which got moved while still recent, has its page views significantly higher than any other topic with the name, and currently still is the primary topic. This page lacks the large difference that would defy WP:RECENTISM. If anything, a release of a new Halo game may also create a short-term bump in views of Cortana (Halo). I would suggest the nom to maybe wait a few months to see if the software remains the primary topic. sovereign°sentinel (contribs) 02:07, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

• Strong oppose WP:RECENTISM the fictional character is still has more longterm significance than the assistance software, under Microsoft topics. The Cortana assistant was only recently released. -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 04:48, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
• Oppose stay put, or move to Microsoft Cortana per WP:NATURAL if (software) is offending anyone. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:48, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:RECENT and the long-term significance of Cortana (gastropod). Zarcadia (talk) 14:12, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

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Chinese is not a language

Dialects need to be mutually intelligible for them to be considered the same language, also "European Spanish" is a better term to adhere than "Castilian Spanish" as "Castilian" is also the WP:COMMONNAME for Argentino Spanish, the list could be alright, but I'd change "dialects" to "regional variants" and replace "Chinese" with "Mandarin Chinese" and since Mainland Chinese (see: Standard Mainland Mandarin) is different from Taiwanese Mandarin the latter could be added separately if Microsoft would ever implement it there (note that I'm not pleading on the basis of WP:CRYSTAL but on the fact that these are in fact different dialects of the same Mandarin Chinese language and not a mythical Chinese language as by the same logic French, Castilian, Catalan, Italian, and Portuguese are all "dialects" of the same Latin language (romance)).

Sincerely, --86.81.201.94 (talk) 19:55, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Undid revision 696922021 by 213.114.9.93

Hi guys! The reason I undid the edit is due to Cortana fitting the description of an intelligent personal assistant. Also, Apple's Siri and Amazon's Alexa do not have so-called in front. If you have any objections, please include them below and make sure to ping me. I will reply when I have a change (which could be up to 48 hours). Happy Holidays!

Daylen (talk) 23:26, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Map error

The map contained in this article of supported regions includes the Chinese Republic which is not true, only Mainland Mandarin (Putonghua - Official language) is supported, Taiwanese Mandarin (Guoyü - National language) is still unavailable as one is unable to set their region to "Traditional Chinese (Taiwan)" and get Cortana(, yet). --58.187.167.178 (talk) 02:40, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

cortana

why its doesent work Cortana in my window 10 pc pls cam n u help me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.247.77.228 (talk) 06:08, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

This isn't the place to ask. WP:NOTFORUM Zero Serenity ^{(talk - contributions)} 09:19, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Region box

As per WP:SOURCE please add sources to every addition regarding new languages and/or language variants and/or platform availability of Cortana in that region otherwise the unsourced material may be removed or marked with "Citation needed". Thank you.

Sincerely, --86.81.201.94 (talk) 12:51, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Add mention that microsoft made it impossible for many users to disable cortana?

Shouldn't this article include mention of the win 10 anniversary edition removing almost all users ability to disable cortana?TeeTylerToe (talk) 04:42, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Reaction to Cortana from public

Is there a need to report the negative reaction to this program?