User talk:EdJohnston

Reporting a changing IP

Hi,

Where do I report an IP user that keeps changing his IP addresses? At Lithuania's page there is an IP user that is edit warring and his IPs are almost the same with the exception of last number (94.119.64.5, 94.119.64.1, 94.119.64.10, 94.119.64.18, 94.119.64.6). I thought about taking this matter to either WP:AN3 or WP:LTA, but I am not sure anymore. 4 out of 5 IP have been blocked for such behavior in the past and 1 IP has been blocked as a sockpuppet. In addition, all IPs keep ignoring warning messages at their talk pages. What can you advise? – Sabbatino (talk) 07:03, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Blocks mention Mikemikev. The problematic range is at 94.119.64.0/27. This has been going on for awhile, so perhaps a longer block is needed. Nihlus 07:42, 3 October 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

If the evidence is good I'd be prepared to do a rangeblock. Recently there was an edit summary by User:Doug Weller where he stated that the 94.119.64.3 was a sock of the banned editor Mikemikev. A rangeblock of 94.119.64.0/27 (block range · block log (global) · WHOIS (partial)) could be considered. I haven't checked yet for collateral damage, but it's a small range. When time permits somebody could review WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Mikemikev/Archive. EdJohnston (talk) 13:28, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

If there isn't too much collateral damage, go for it. Mikemikev alone is still a problem, and that would block one range he uses. Doug Weller talk 17:52, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

This edit from August shows the IP updating a comment by User:David Mendlesohn, an identified sock of Mikemikev. Still considering a one-month block of the /27. There have been no edits that are distinctive of Mikemikev since October 1 in that range. Still hesitating due to collateral since Mikemikev appears to change IPs frequently. These IPs are hosted by The Cloud Networks, which appears to run WiFi hotspots in addition to whatever else they do. Will go ahead with semiprotection for Lithuania, in response to User:Sabbatino's concern. EdJohnston (talk) 13:03, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Question

Hi EdJohnston. A question: Are the Albania-related articles property of Greek editors? Yes or no? This is not about criticizing any admin in particular, but none of them so far has found it a little strange that the (Personal attack removed)/wp:outing are always present and active inside Albanian topics, and if ever have the patience to read articles such as Saranda or Korce you can see what their contribute aims for. No wonder users like Resnjari end up in edit wars, its's three of them against one. Always in unison. We don't like something ? - Then it's disruptive.
Just an illustration from Dr's talkpage:

Thank you for reverting recent disruption in Delvina etc.. It's sad that a specific editor struggles to convince our community that good articles should satisfy vandals & all this kind of disruptive SPAs.Alexikoua (talk) 10:34, 30 September 2017 (UTC) You are very welcome Alexi. It was the least I could do. These Illyria vandals are hard-wired to erase any mention of Ancient Greece and replace it with Illyria and/or Albania. Heck, they even made Korkyra Illyrian in a vandalism that remained since last January until I caught it earlier today. Thank you also for your great work in that toxic area, dealing with all types of disruption. Dr. K. 16:54, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

And before starting with the endless set of WPs, (Personal attack removed)?
Best regards--Mondiad (talk) 02:05, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi Ed. I think this account should be blocked for PAs and attempts at outing. Thanks and sorry for the intrusion. Dr. K. 02:27, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

User:Mondiad, an oversighter has warned you for personal attacks and has suppressed some of your edits. EdJohnston (talk) 20:13, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Assistances requested

Sorry to be so much trouble, I usually work with researching historical people and events, not dealing with contentious current politics, and as an elderly person (my computer teaching in college had learned programing on punch cards), I do not go great job in this new web-world, but I do love the history and am thrilled finding new records to fill in the stories. Thus over the years I have worked mostly on minor pieces from The Longoria Affair to Lewis Charlton (slave).

I came across Patriot Prayer page quite by accident and made one small changed based local reporting, I added 'Pro-Trump' group. This was quickly deleted, and I thought mistakenly so I reinstalled it. It was deleted again, then I added a few local sources and was told it was 'sloppy and lazy journalism' before it was deleted again. So I lined up over twenty different local sources all saying the same thing, but by now I was reported for 3RRN violations by Darkness Shines. The rest, I am afraid, is what you have been dealing with since with more reporting of me for 3RRN (now on 7th or 8th) and once for singularly focused. I have learned about bringing any change to the Talk page and abide by the majority, but it seems like anything suggested by me to dismissed out of hand without referencing any sources for the editing. This is my latest attempt: [1]

Is there perhaps anyone that might be able to work as an intermediary between us. I have the local solid sourcing of information but no way to get it onto the page without conflict with Darkness. My last change of organising rallies into region areas was suggested by Darkness, but as I did it, it too turned into an edit war. Is there someone that Darkness respects that I might work with to improve the page, without getting into an edit war? Thank you for your consideration of this matter.C. W. Gilmore (talk) 07:35, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

This request is now moot due to your topic ban from the Patriot Prayer article that was enacted at ANI. EdJohnston (talk) 20:10, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

IP 125.107.182.107

Hi EdJohnston. I believe that IP 125.107.182.107 is the same person you blocked per WP:AN3#User:125.107.175.62 reported by User:Marchjuly (Result: Blocked). Since this person does not seem to understand the message you left at User talk:125.107.175.62#Edit warring, removal of references and copyright problems on Olympics articles, it seem probable that they will simply keep using a new IP each time one is blocked. I'm not sure how this kind of IP hopper is typically dealt with, but maybe WP:SEMI for the article would prevent them from continuing to inappropriately add those non-free files. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:38, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for looking into this. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:30, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

The IP user is now blocked through 8 November. EdJohnston (talk) 16:56, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

1939 Coventry bombing

Hi Ed. You (semi-) protected this article just now, but actually the issue has been resolved now. The IP has not been back since 08:40 yesterday (UTC), and there's no reason to expect him back either. Protection isn't needed any more. Regards, Scolaire (talk) 21:24, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

I have my eye on a different IP who has recently edited there. It does not seem too drastic to semiprotect a WP:TROUBLES article for a period of two months. when there have been recent problems from IPs. (These are IPs for which we might be discussing topic bans if they were registered editors doing the same thing). EdJohnston (talk) 04:21, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Fair enough. Scolaire (talk) 08:19, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Third party opinion

• Wagner Group (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Edit warring complaint about that article

EdJohnston, I know you to be a fair and neutral administrator/editor. So could you please look (and let me know your opinion) at what editor Axxxion (who I reported for the 3RR violation) has been saying at the talk page here [2]. The problem is, despite a large volume of sources confirming the existence of the Wagner Group, he thinks they do not exist based on opinions expressed in a few obscure outlets (which I already said should be included) and is dismissing any and all of the other more reliable sources (such as the WSJ, The Telegraph, etc) as not credible. In his personal POV the Wall Street Journal is an anti-Russian American media outlet that should not be considered as a source. I pointed out several times the WSJ is considered a reliable source by Wikipedia but have been ignored. He has also engaged into his personal unsourced POV speculation on the subject of the article which is within the realm of WP:SYNTHESIS, but he doesn't seem to care and has removed the text being cited by the WSJ. He also calls any sources confirming the existence of the subject of the article anecdotal evidence, again his own opinion, and he has translated this into the text in the article. He has also called at least one of the sources (a non-governmental Russian investigative researcher) a, quote, kgb stooge who is just pretending to be an anti-government military analyst so to distract. He also considers official Ukrainian intelligence (SBU) reports on Wagner to be the product of Russian infiltrators within the SBU. I mean, I don't think any reasonable responses can be given to this. Basically, in his opinion, any sources confirming the existence of Wagner are ether not reliable because they are anti-Russian or they are infiltrated by the KGB to create the myth of Wagner for the sake of distraction. He also avoids to give a straight concrete answer for his massive reverts of most of my other edits, no matter how many times I ask. What is to be done in this case when the editor is making edits in an unsourced OR and POV manner and engaging in edit warring for the sake of it in violation of WP policy? EkoGraf (talk) 09:27, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Both you and User:Axxxion appear to have some knowledge, but for an administrator to sort out interpersonal disputes takes a lot of time. (Neither of you is a vandal; one of you could possibly be pushing a POV but it takes time to judge that). It is easier for us if you will do a good review of the content issues on the talk page, and open an WP:RFC if necessary. It is simple enough for admins to block someone who is reverting against a clear talk page consensus, but regular editors have to create the consensus (or at least attempt to get one). Thanks for your note. EdJohnston (talk) 23:30, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your

intervention. Just by way of comment: I do not think there is an active dispute between us (EkoGraf and me) in Wagner article. But I also would like to draw your attention to this one Russian military intervention in the Syrian Civil War. There have been persistent unsourced edits by anonymous editors in that article. I believe it needs semiprotection. (Frankly, no time for formal request). Thanks a lot.Axxxion (talk) 16:34, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

It was time to renew the semiprotection at Russian military intervention in the Syrian Civil War. Thanks for your note, EdJohnston (talk) 22:55, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Biswajeet34

User blocked per ANI, nothing more to do. EdJohnston (talk) 18:21, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Biswajeet34 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) I notice that you handled the edit warring report regarding this user. Can you please take a look at their recent edits? I have no idea what they're trying to do, with the template and forky-article creation. A block may be in order. – Train2104 (t • c) 17:06, 10 October 2017 (UTC) I notice they recreated Template:Culture of Ho tribe, a badly malformed page, after it had already been speedy deleted as a G2. I left a note at their talk page. You may be thinking there is a case for a WP:CIR block. Nobody minds a new person who can write adequately, starts slowly and asks for advice, but here we have the opposite. Doug Weller also commented below. EdJohnston (talk) 23:23, 10 October 2017 (UTC) I've either speedied or AFD'ed the rest of their creations. Mage Porob is borderline nonsense to me, Jomnama Parob is just a list of references, Festival of Ho tribe is a fork, Diyeng is possibly made up. – Train2104 (t • c) 01:12, 11 October 2017 (UTC) Mage Parob was a copyright violation. I expect to find more when I have tome. Doug Weller talk 07:24, 11 October 2017 (UTC) Thanks for your suggestion . I am going with Wikipedia editing policies.so, i know very well about wikipedia editng policies ,better you should research properly with these articles. I have many resources with proper historic evidences,accurate reliable sources and anthropology scholars as well with scholar of law and governances. If You have some douts then you can ask me any question regarding any articles , i can give you proper history about that article with reliable wikipedia sources which is the actual motto of Wikipedia There's a pattern here.[3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] - sorry if I've duplicated anything, but these all remove the word Hindi or Hindu from the article. Doug Weller talk 18:12, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

A concern

• Nicoddemu (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

User:Nicoddemu has been busy adding unsourced information, using unreliable sources, and intentionally misrepresenting sources. I posted a concern on their talk page, which, judging by their recent activities, was ignored.[10]

Source Misrepresentation:

• [11],[12],[13]. Source makes no mention of a previous marriage or divorce.
• [14],[15],[16]. Source makes no mention of Furneaux or Odo/Eudes.

Addition of incorrect/unsourced information:

• [17], easily disproven and "Emma" is already mentioned later in article as illegitimate.
• [18]
• [19]
• [20]
• [21], example of an entire article based on no sources. Note the poor English
• [22]

Usage of unreliable source(s):

• [23], Medlands unreliable source.
• [24], genea.net unreliable source.

Illegible sentences, quite possibly non-English user.

• [25]
• [26]
• [27]

In some cases, the articles in question are unreliably sourced or completely unsourced and user:Nicoddemu is simply adding more unsourced, unverified information to said articles.

I have posted 2 concerns to their talk page, with no response to either. Judging from the page moves done by Nicoddemu, this is not a "new user" and should not be treated as one. I do not expect any action to be taken at this time, but I seriously doubt this editor will stop their form of "editing" any time soon. --Kansas Bear (talk) 20:02, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Left a note for Nicoddemu about the possible unsourced information. EdJohnston (talk) 01:45, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

KB, the user has not edited since my note on their talk. If you want an admin action, perhaps you can find an example of where they added actual wrong information. The best example would be something that we can verify online to be false. EdJohnston (talk) 18:17, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

I'd imagine this particular editor has other "names" they go by. I'm a patient man, I will wait until the disruptive editing starts again. --Kansas Bear (talk) 01:03, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

The user also has an account on the French Wikipedia, where they have made similar edits. Their home wiki might be Korean, and it's possible they aren't confident enough about their English to use talk pages. EdJohnston (talk) 17:03, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Ho people

• Ho people (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I’m not sure protecting it will help. Reinstating mayterial with year old fact tags, adding more unsourced, and possibly s competence issue doesn’t make me think there will be a useful discussion or that things will be different in five days. I’ll put it on my watch list. I’d probably have reverted the current version if I’d seen it. Doug Weller talk 20:31, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

One party could be heading for a block, but if the more experienced person is not using the talk page I don't see the closer as having much discretion. It would be helpful for someone to list the good and bad sources on the talk page -- blocking for repeated addition of unsourced material is certainly a thing. If you know anything at all about this topic your input on Talk would be useful. I'll suggest to the other party that they make an edit request. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 20:52, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

This thread is now moot because User:Biswajeet34 has been indef blocked per ANI. EdJohnston (talk) 18:35, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

List of programmes broadcast by Sky One

Sorry about that, seems we had a move conflict, I hope this is a coincidence and not bad luck – it happened on my last page move too, albeit the other way round –72 _(talk) 22:42, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

I wanted to do this quickly before the channel changed its name again!

You know, there is a thing in computer science about deadlocks.. If we could just get people to close moves with the same order of steps .. Or a button at RMTR that does the move and removes the list entry in one atomic operation :-) EdJohnston (talk) 22:48, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Well, they've had a quick update on Wikipedia, not sure it'll be as simple on twitter for instance. An automatic process would definitely be helpful, yes (though an atomic operation would be interesting too!), I guess a script would take someone more clever than I to devise. I had also noticed that the RMTR regulars tend to move multiple pages consecutively before removing the requests too, assumedly opening all requests in new tabs before taking action. –72 _(talk) 23:11, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is EdJohnston warn me to block me. —SpacemanSpiff 17:59, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

• Just a courtesy notification since the user seems to have missed this along with all the other policy/guideline misses. —SpacemanSpiff 18:00, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Vandalism in Jadwiga of Poland

I think you judging me badly. As you can see Borsoka [28] and Surtsicna [29] removed important information from this article. First one, Wdowiszewski's book from bibliography (in footnotes is mentioned only as Wdowiszewski 2005). Second one, the information about studium generale with academic source. This is clearly vandalism and I am highly suprised that you warrn me, who try to upgrate the article instead of vandals who removing important information, moreover without no discusion on talk page. Swetoniusz (talk) 21:09, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

There has been a discussion at Talk:Jadwiga of Poland#Elżbieta Bonifacja. It still appears that nobody agrees with you there. If you revert the article again, without first getting a consensus for your version on the talk page, you may be blocked per the original case. Your use of the term 'vandalism' is incorrect. If you persist in using that term to refer to others who are not vandals you are risking a block for personal attacks. If you seriously believe that a wider audience might agree with you about the Elżbieta name, you could open a WP:Request for comment. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 22:53, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

The discusion is about Elżbieta Bonifacja, not about Wdowiszewski's book and studium generale. Nobody talked about Wdowiszewski and studium generale, so how can you say that nobody agree with me? I hope that you will try to help to increase quality of article, I do not have time for fighting with users who destroyed my work. Swetoniusz (talk) 17:44, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Noted. I don't perceive any request here that I can act on, so we'll have to leave it be. EdJohnston (talk) 18:07, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Renewed attacks

Hello, It is said here that it is better to let the discussion of XIII's talk page be, but XIII asked me not to write on that page. Yet, not only he is not withdrawing his attacks, but he is adding new ones (conspiracy of legal actions, copyright infringement). What should I do? --Launebee (talk) 21:36, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

User:Andrewa is an admin who has been following this and he appears to think the ANI should be closed. There is a risk that people will grow weary of both of you even if XIII is causing more of the problem. EdJohnston (talk) 01:59, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

OK, so I guess there is nothing to do even if XIII is attacking me on his talk page. (I wrote to you because on the ANI talk page, they are saying that two admins are handling that on XIII talk page, and I think you are the second one.) --Launebee (talk) 09:03, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Launebee, I would appreciate being given the diffs of these attacks, and suggest my talk page is the place for these at this time. So yes, there is something to be done. Wikipedia should be a safe place for you. Give the actual diff and say why you believe it to be a personal attack. Thanks in advance. Andrewa (talk) 21:16, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Rice Lofts

Ed Johnston:

I had been considering a request for WP:RM of the Rice Lofts article. You made this move about same time I began as a Wikipedia editor, or just before. In any case, I have no recollection of any details of a discussion, and I am not sure I would have understood such discussions at that time, being a noobie. If you remember what happened or would like to be a part of the discussion regarding my proposed move, please visit Talk: Rice Lofts#Rename to Rice Hotel?. Thanks. Oldsanfelipe (talk) 14:31, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

That's an idea, but the building seems to call itself The Rice now. Since there are two or three plausible options for what to call it, it may be best to open a move discussion at Talk:Rice Lofts using the {{Requested move}} template. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 01:23, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

81.230.149.213

• User being reported: 81.230.149.213 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Page: List of manufacturers by motor vehicle production (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I have problems with the editor 81.230.149.213 (formerly BjörnBergman). Apparently, you already know him as I saw your name in his talk page. He ignores consensus in the List of manufacturers by motor vehicle production article (I didn't participate, but I agree with the RfC and the general discussion there). In general, most of its edits are biased and its original combinations are arbitrary, like combining two things that shouldn't according to the source used, OICA: SAIC-GM-Wuling and General Motors. He seems to have a problem with the fact the South Korean Hyundai was listed as number 3. He also makes the same original (and absolutely wrong) synthesis in the automotive industry article. My question is: How do I proceed from here? The fact he edits from an IP gives him the upper-hand, and his edits, while highly disruptive, can't be considered vandalism. --Urbanoc (talk) 19:40, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

• The message was not received and the edit war continued. Springee (talk) 11:11, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
• I have requested page protection and IP block for socking.[30] — JFG ^talk 11:32, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

• I have blocked the IP for six months, for the same reason as in the previous block. Wait and see if this takes care of it. EdJohnston (talk) 13:40, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Question

Hey, Ed - I created a project a while back and was pursuing funding for it, but the project did not advance. I actually got busy doing other things, and the project remained inactive. It went to MfD, I asked for it to be userfied, and you can see what happened. Now I've read Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Guide#Dealing_with_inactive_WikiProjects and Wikipedia:Project_namespace#Deletion_of_project_pages and don't see any reason why I have to have consensus to reactivate a project I actually created and asked to userfy. Am I overlooking a policy somewhere? ^{Atsme📞📧} 00:13, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

The closure of the MfD says to only move the project back to mainspace with consensus. If you disagree with this verdict, you could ask the closer to reconsider or take the matter to WP:DRV. The policy is in a grey area, but realistically, without one or two people besides yourself who agree with the idea it is unlikely to proceed. Though it is not required, you could file at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals and see if you can get a reaction there. EdJohnston (talk) 01:38, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Like--The ideas are too far-reaching and I doubt whether (unlike the various topic-based projects), the community would allow it to do it's proposed job(s), without a site-wide consensus unless the ideas etc. are themselves wholly altered.Winged Blades of Godric^{On leave} 11:26, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

YadavaYadavs are Kshatriya

Sir, this page needs correction or should be deleted.as Yadavs were traditionally elite Kshatriya Class and have ruled over many parts of India & Nepal.So it's really about the community as You've mentioned this community as Shudra. During Mahabharat also Yadavs were Kshatriya and Most respected God of Hinduism Lord Krishna took birth in this clan. Manoj Ranjan Yadav (talk) 03:35, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello Manoj, I don't believe we have met. If your comment belongs anywhere it should be at Talk:Yadav. It is not up to me to rule on whether Yadavs are Kshatriya. If you want to edit about the Yadavs you will be expected to bring WP:Reliable sources that are acceptable to Wikipedia. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 03:53, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

194.218.16.122

• User being reported: 194.218.16.122 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Page: List of manufacturers by motor vehicle production (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

BjörnBergman/81.230.149.213 is again edit warring, and using the alternative IP account 194.218.16.122 to do so. I have no doubts they are all one person (same unusual interest in supercentenarians and "oldest people" rankings, same obsession with listing Mazda and Ford together in certain years, the same problem with a South Korean carmaker being number three on a list). --Urbanoc (talk) 18:28, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

I've now blocked the two IPs and indeffed User:BjörnBergman. If he comes back to any of these articles with a new Swedish IP it will be time to consider semiprotection. EdJohnston (talk) 19:21, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Precious

"I have been known to try mediating disputes"

Thank you for talking to users, often saying "Welcome, and ...", for admin service and moving articles, for "have been known to try mediating disputes" and finding solutions, in more than ten years of service, - Ed, repeating (11 May 2009}: you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:25, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Rfc consensus on Galkayo Talk page

Respectable Edjohnston,

There is a new consensus on Galkayo talk page [[31]] about changes to the Galkayo Article. Can you do these changes to the article page.

Thank you,

Faarax200 (talk) 08:21, 17 October 2017 (UTC)