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And olive branch & holiday wishes!

Doug Weller, please accept these holiday wishes :) I've caused this year to end on a chord of disappointment for many, but I hope that despite my mistakes and the differences in opinion and perspectives, and regardless of what the outcome is or in what capacity I can still contribute in the coming year, we can continue working together directly or indirectly on this encyclopedic project, whose ideals are surely carried by both of our hearts. I'm hoping I have not fallen in your esteem to the level where "no hard feelings" can no longer ring true, because I highly respect you and your dedication to Wikipedia, and I sincerely wish you and your loved ones all the best for 2018. Ben · Salvidrim! ✉ 03:59, 21 December 2017 (UTC), humbled but optimistic about the upcoming year of renewal and growth!

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Administrators

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Tomotley

Hello, Doug. When you get a chance, can you check the recent addition to this article? (here's the diff: [1]). I'm not certain regarding the source reliability, and the info looks sketchy. BrineStans (talk) 15:51, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

@BrineStans: I agree and reverted. Doug Weller talk 20:17, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Website source

What are your thoughts on this website used as a source? This is the author of said site. The IP, that clearly is not a new user, states that this source has been to Wikipedia:RSN and there is a consensus for its use. --Kansas Bear (talk) 20:49, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Not exactly.[2]. Doug Weller talk 21:03, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Well, having looked at their coverage of Canterbury - no, it's not a reliable source. They don't seem to know about the Fasti Ecclesiae Anglicanae, which is pretty much the go-to for correct info on post-Conquest bishops in the UK. Ealdgyth - Talk 21:39, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

My sincerest thanks to you both! --Kansas Bear (talk) 21:52, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

(ec) For example - see the catholic-hierarchy page for Augustine of Canterbury. It gives a precise consecration date for him, and a precise death date. But ... there is contradictory evidence on when and where Augustine was consecrated - it is not clear-cut and should not be stated so baldly. Or take Stigand. Catholic-hierarchy says he died on a specific date, but we only know for sure that he died in 1072. His death was commemorated on two dates in February, but its not sure that those dates were his death dates, nor which one is correct if they did commemorate his death day - as a check of the Fasti would make clear. I cannot evaluate its reliability for recent events, but its woefully out of touch with the scholarship on pre-Reformation bishops in the British Isles. Ealdgyth - Talk 21:53, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

I think I might have been involved in the action saying there is consensus to it's use. That however was years ago. If it includes material which cannot be corroborated externally, or which might be the subject of serious dispute within modern specialist sources, it clearly does not take priority over those sources. If there are enough such questionable or unsupported statements on it there may be cause to reconsider it, maybe even blacklist it. John Carter (talk) 20:58, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Best wishes for the holidays...

		Season's Greetings
		Wishing everybody a Happy Holiday Season, and all best wishes for the New Year! Nativity scenes attributed to Zanobi Strozzi is my Wiki-Christmas card to all for this year. Johnbod (talk) 20:32, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Copyvio on Belshazzar

I've just discovered that the section of Belshazzar headed "Later Jewish Tradition" is almost entirely cut and pasted from the 1902 Jewish Encylopedia (page 667). Does that make it copyvio, or is a book that old in public domain? PiCo (talk) 01:01, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Oh yeah - do take some time off to enjoy yourself this Midsummer Solstice, quaff some wine, roast a boar, sacrifice a virgin, all that traditional stuff :) PiCo (talk) 01:05, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) If it was published in the USA, it‘s certainly PD (pre-1923), but it should still be attributed: plagiarism rather than copyvio per se. I’ve added {{Jewish Encyclopedia}} to the References section.—Odysseus1479 01:22, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

@PiCo and Odysseus1479: I ran into an article that eas also heavily copied from the same source although I didn’t notice that it was. There were some dubious statements in it and I tagged them as citation needed. The tags were removed as it was deemed by the editor to be sourced. Since then I’ve found that I was right, but I can’t remember where I found that and had forgotten which article it was.

Merry Christmas!

Merry Christmas Doug Weller!!


Hi Doug Weller, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year,
Thanks for all your help and contributions on the 'pedia! ,
   –Davey2010 ^{Merry Xmas / Happy New Year} 13:35, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Seasons' Greetings

...to you and yours, from the Great White North! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 18:08, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

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Hello, Doug Weller! Thank you for your work to maintain and improve Wikipedia! Wishing you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 20:48, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

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Could you warn this new user to stop his behavior?

Hello Doug. Could you warn this new user to stop his behavior? I told him to not write on my talk page and stop his personal attacks[3], [4], [5] but he repeated it for 4th time.[6] Seems he does not read my edit summaries and the warnings on his talk page. Plus he turned Talk:Bactria#bactrian_people into WP:FORUM and direct attacks towards me. For example, how this nonsense [7] is related to that discussion?! You can see more there. This situation is out of my control. --Wario-Man (talk) 09:08, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Another example on another user talk page.[8] --Wario-Man (talk) 11:58, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!!!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2018!

Hello Doug Weller, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you a heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2018. Happy editing, JudeccaXIII (talk) 20:20, 24 December 2017 (UTC) Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Record charts

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Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2018!

Hello Doug Weller, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you a heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2018. Happy editing, —MBL Talk 05:56, 25 December 2017 (UTC) Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Merry Christmas

A blessed feast to you and yours. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:25, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Gene Baumgaertner

Is Royal Interlude, a work of fiction?[9] Clearly, Amazon has listed it as such;Books›Literature & Fiction›Genre Fiction. --Kansas Bear (talk) 22:30, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Trafford publishing, calls it fiction.[10] --Kansas Bear (talk) 22:48, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

@Kansas Bear: Any book whose introduction claims that it is written by someone in 1499 is fiction, in this case self-published fiction. Doug Weller talk 08:06, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #292

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Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 11:54, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Relability

Hello Doug, Just a quick bit of feedback, on one of the articles I edited you removed the edit because of lack of reliability yet a majority of my corrections were to do with the organisation itself. Saying that CMI isn't scientifically valid because you disagree with them is an invalid argument and just an excuse to use your Wiki status 'powers'. It's no reason that people say Wikipedia is extremely bias and full of one sided information, I had come here to try and prove those people incorrect but apparently not (people from various views have made these claims). Thanks,