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::Craziness seems to be somewhat conducive.I was surprised or rather shocked to see an editor who is generally observable to be sane apparently willing to keep the article to attract Indian editors! [[User:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">~ ''Winged Blades''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">Godric</span>]]</sup> 16:18, 15 February 2018 (UTC) [[User:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">~ ''Winged Blades''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">Godric</span>]]</sup> 16:18, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
::Craziness seems to be somewhat conducive.I was surprised or rather shocked to see an editor who is generally observable to be sane apparently willing to keep the article to attract Indian editors! [[User:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">~ ''Winged Blades''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">Godric</span>]]</sup> 16:18, 15 February 2018 (UTC) [[User:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">~ ''Winged Blades''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">Godric</span>]]</sup> 16:18, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

== 18:09:02, 15 February 2018 review of submission by Tony.bourached ==
{{Lafc|username=Tony.bourached|ts=18:09:02, 15 February 2018|declined=Draft:Transmed}}

Dear Winged Blades of Godric
Thank you for your feedback, as pointed out the text was re-written and references amended. Can you please re-check and let me know.
[[User:Tony.bourached|Tony.bourached]] ([[User talk:Tony.bourached|talk]]) 18:09, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Revision as of 18:09, 15 February 2018

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Dear sir- I am writing as a new wiki editor because I have added important, cited details to above mentioned page but there has been someone vandalized many people's comments on this page called an editor ScrapIronIV. Sir, I suggest you please allow the news of the award won by R. Shankar and P. Chabira for Muse India Translation Award on page as it is major award for translation of goddess Andal. Also, magazine started by R. Shankar very influential. I suggest to suspend ScrapIron IV privilegs as he continues to make false changes to page and not respect satya. Thank you.

S. Saastri

On a very related note, after my massive cleanup at Subrahmanya Saastri, (look at the edit summaries, if you are seeking reasons) an article created by you, there's not a single non-offline source linked as a reference.All that remained were 4 offline sources .Out of those four, I have persoanlly verified that 2 of them don't support the statements they were affixed next to and don't even mention the name of the subject.I would thus request you to kindly upload the images of the pages of Osborne's books that you have used as a reference in the article in some image-sharing-sites like Imgur etc. and bring the upload links to my t/p for a proper verification or use the Special:EmailUser function to mail the images to me. Sans any cooperation from you in this regard within a reasonable time, I will be compelled to look at alternatives like draftification, deletion et al.Winged Blades Godric 09:04, 26 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Since you have literally vanished with going for some sort of clean start, I've obliged you:) I hope, I meet soon with your new avatar!Winged Blades Godric 13:29, 2 December 2017 (UT}}

Request on 18:58:22, 5 December 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Cougarsurf


Hey there! Thanks for the feedback on my draft, Draft:Evan Goldstein. Just wanted to get some added clarification on what you think the priorities items should be. It sounds like it was an issue of sources in the first part of your note, but you also commented on the language. Do you think the latter needs some tweaking? It may be a little robotic, I was just trying to mimic the language of some other doctor pages I found. Thanks!

Cougarsurf (talk) 18:58, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Source analysis.
  • Ref 10:--Fails our guidelines for a reliable source.Advocacy site.☒N
  • Ref 9:--Typical promotional medium for brands.See this.Fails WP:RS.☒N
  • Ref 8:--See WP:BLOG.Fails WP:RS.☒N
  • Ref 5/7:--Same reference.NYP republished the Moneyish piece.Passes WP:RS.Good covg.checkY
  • Ref 4:--An opinion/self-field-promotion piece authored by the subject.Does not lend to notability.☒N
  • Ref 3/6:--Both are same.Fails WP:RS.Advocacy site.Seems typical promo-spam.☒N
  • Ref 2:--Very short piece and short covg. Half-hearted checkY
  • Ref 1:--Good!checkY
On the basis of the above 2.5 ticks, I'm not convinced that the subject passes WP:GNG.So, please look out for more sources that passes WP:RS and covers the subject non-trivially in a subjective fashion.
Lines like He has stated that his motivations are to focus on the mostly underserved surgical needs of the gay community and He offers additional support for the..... looks typical subject-promotion material and imparts a resume-like tone which is completely unsuitable for an encyclopedic article.
I hope this helps:)Winged Blades Godric 16:42, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Winged Blades: Thank you for sharing those details on the sources and language. I was trying to provide some context on Dr. Goldstein himself, but I agree, it may be too trivial for inclusion. I'll look for some new sources that seem less promotional... perhaps a medical journal or some other citation on the surgeries he's engineered.
@Cougarsurf:-Definitely agree.And you are putting your efforts in a very good direction.If you need any help as to any on-wiki-aspect, feel free to ask me.As a side-note, at the end of any post in any talk-page, please put ~~~~ which will automatically sign your post.Regards:)Winged Blades Godric 06:15, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I've made some edits to my draft based on your feedback. I found a few useful medical journals, made some changes to the language to be more encyclopedic and deleted the sources I believe you marked as irrelevant or less credible. If you could, would you mind taking a look? Thanks! ~~~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cougarsurf (talkcontribs) 18:10, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Cougarsurf, it's nice to see you following the instructions so literally, but it's just ~~~~ (i.e. no <nowiki>...</nowiki> tags). Primefac (talk) 18:21, 12 January 2018 (UTC) (talk page stalker)[reply]



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@Kostas20142:--Do you mass-message these boiler-plates to every-one who has chimed in at the venue, irrespective of the triviality of their comments?!Winged BladesGodric 07:02, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Self note

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ALok Babu

HI ,

We need to add extra information in early life and carreer to this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alok_R._Babu. When we tried to do it. You have reverted to old version. Could you please let me know ,how can we proceed with this.

Thanks and Regards, J.Lohith — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiranpz (talkcontribs) 07:13, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Kiranpz:--Hi, J.Lohith, surely. But, do you know A.Babu personally or have any links with him?! Also, since you stated We need..., can you list the other operators of this account or state whether this acc. is being used by any company?Winged BladesGodric 07:19, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes,i know him personally. Sorry it was supposed to be I. I am working on this article.Regards,Kiranpz— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiranpz (talkcontribs)
@Kiranpz:Thanks for the note.Do you also know Srikanth Gowda and Anusha Rai personally or share some other form of off-site contacts with them ?Winged BladesGodric 07:29, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Also, please remember to put four tildes ~~~~ at the end of your post.Our software automatically converts it into a user-specific signature.Winged BladesGodric 07:32, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Winged Blades of Godric:--HI,I know both of them personally.Regards,KiranpzKiranpz (talk) 07:45, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your disclosure(s).My last query on the issue will be whether you expect any financial remuneration or (other inducements i.e. some other benefit) in lieu of your's writings/work over here? Winged BladesGodric 07:58, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Also, while engaging in a talk-page discussion, please indent your posts using colon marks.Put one more colon at the start of your post, than that at the start of the prev. reply .Winged BladesGodric 08:02, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No financial remuneration or other benefit for this.Just want to know,why you asking this, that whether i expect financial remuneration on this writings.Regards,KiranpzKiranpz (talk) 08:05, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Kiranpz:--Please see our conflict-of-interest policy, which calls for mandatory disclosure(s).It may be noted that both COI-affected editors and/or PAID-editors must follow the policy.Winged BladesGodric 08:16, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, then how to proceed next. Need to add the extra information to article.Regards,KiranpzKiranpzKiranpz (talk) 08:42, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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@Coffee:--Nice template.The design could have been definitely a bit better! But, Alas! ArbCom doesn't want any minimal tampering with the template:)
By the way, why don't you design a semi-auto-bot that showers these templates on whoever chooses to edit at APOL/BLP?! Would be a much better and fool-proof method.Regards:)~ Winged BladesGodric 06:28, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'd love to, but I'm too busy having to handle ridiculous crap like today. Defamatory jokes on our main page are simply unacceptable. And I'm someone who hates to say that anything shouldn't be joked about... but I have to enforce this policy. It's like some people want to literally put me in a hard position constantly for no good reason. Aren't there like 1,500 other things people could be doing than trying to make libel hit the main page? Does the WMF really need to be sued here by the man known for suing? Jesus... how big do some people think our budget is? Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 06:36, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
If I had to guess, I'd say.... yuuuuuge? Primefac (talk) 14:34, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The yugest - believe me folks, the yugest Galobtter (pingó mió) 14:40, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Dimitrios Kalogerakos

Yes, looks to meet WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 12:26, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the evaulation.~ Winged BladesGodric 15:56, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't doubt for a moment that you know more about Indian law schools than I do

- but just to put the record straight, my comments are generally as careful as a lawyer's, while all the time still being capable of a clean sense of humour. I'm neither a deletionist nor an inclusionist, and I just use the tools that the community wanted to give me. I would hesitate to brand any particular individual of being either (that would not be good faith), unless of course they need to be warned for a tendentious spree of either mass passing articles at NPP as OK that have no place at all on Wikipedia, or mass placing deletion tags on perfectly acceptable pages. But I do believe it to be perfectly acceptable to point out that something is a not policy when it it isn't - I learned a lot here through people putting me right on things I had misuderstood.
I never mind it being pointed out if I make the occasional rare error amongst the thousands of articles I have kept or deleted. Indeed, AFAIK, I don't think I've ever had a deletion overturned and my AfD score tends on the high side. Nowt to be particularly proud of though, it's all in a day's work for an admin. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 15:09, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As to the epicenter that led to your comment, I don't think that Necrothesp's AN thread was any ill-deserved, esp. in light of the t/p thread on Drmies'.And the starter of the thread (Sitush) is a quite experienced-pedian, not some fly-by deletionist.
On a side-note, I always welcome differing views and my AFD-history will show you that I always have an ear for opposing !voters and tend to assume a high amount of good-faith but I frankly don't admire personalities too stubborn and/or too irrational to ever change their opinion and having voices so loud so as to effectively prevent himself from listening to others.My net experience with N is that there's no point in engaging with him.Every of his alternate reply could be reasonably construed as:--Schools are kept and will be kept. Nothing more. And, I have never ever seen him to even take an attempt at providing any sources at any AFD.It is only very recently that this essay popped out!
And that's the primary difference I note between N and other folks like DGG/you taking the same line.
On an aside, I personally prefer to refrain from branding editors under any category and my comment was largely in response to your highly-visible anti-promo efforts etc.
On a lighter note, AFDstats show me to be more of a deletionist than you but I tend to get the outcomes more correctly:)~ Winged BladesGodric 15:52, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
FWIW, I've participated in 2,338 AfD, and without considering "No Consensus" results, 89.0% of them were matches and 11.0% of them were not. YGM. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 18:08, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Kudpung:--Shot back:)~ Winged BladesGodric 12:21, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Poor advice

No, don't tell Legacypac to violate their topic ban. jcc (tea and biscuits) 15:43, 3 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Jcc:--Many thanks for your note.I don't recollect any memories of the mainspacing-ban but stupid advice from my end.Anyways, then, can you please explain the thread by DGG, just above?!Wasn't that too about some mainspacing by him?!~ Winged BladesGodric 15:51, 3 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for striking it out. It looks like Legacypac submitted Draft:Tel Haim and suggested it be moved, but Shadowowl was the reviewer who accepted it. Best wishes, and sorry if my message above seemed a bit abrupt! jcc (tea and biscuits) 15:58, 3 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I've never violated the amazingly stupid topic ban and will never violate it. Not one of the editors that imposed has shown their record with page moves/AfC accepts is better than my record, which I've documemted. Legacypac (talk) 20:13, 3 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Govt. Degree College,Khumulwng

your approach here and your ping is much appreciated. Maybe we can even find some degree of agreement . The people with opposing positions on schools pretty much have to, because neither side is going away. DGG ( talk ) 10:02, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@DGG:--Thanks for the note of appreciation.~ Winged BladesGodric 10:56, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Yamla (talk) 13:00, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Replied. And will keep a watch on the progress.Thanks!~ Winged BladesGodric 13:55, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Help

Good morning I would like to ask for your help in editing the Draft: Israel lucas Gois, the article is very good, could you help me put it on the air? I waited for return — Preceding unsigned comment added by André Luiz nogari (talkcontribs) 13:49, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I would love to but what's your connection with the subject? Do you know him?~ Winged BladesGodric 13:50, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

hi, tanks

good tar, I am not receiving anything, I believe there is some mistake, here in Brazil Mr. Gois is well known in the capital market, and I am from the capital market and he is a reference for us in the Brazilian financial market, I would like to Your Help For Article Release — Preceding unsigned comment added by J.SAFRA65265 (talkcontribs) 14:02, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

TonyBallioni--What's the chances of meat-puppeting/plain socking? See and compare Andre's reply on his t/p.~ Winged BladesGodric 14:52, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I’ve spam only blocked both accounts. The draft was G11, and I see no purpose in pretending they’re here for anything else. TonyBallioni (talk) 14:56, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Absolutely.~ Winged BladesGodric 14:59, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Aks 2001 Film Hindi

1. Did You ever watch [Aks 2001 Hindi Film] involving Manu(Actor Amitab) & Raghavan(Actor Manoj Bajpai)?

2. Did Raghavan's corpse Even get Burnt into Ashes before Spirit unfortunately entered Manu?(73.220.163.13 (talk) 03:40, 7 February 2018 (UTC)).[reply]

@Iridescent:--Since your advice(s) to borderline-disruptive but probably-good-faith new-editors often seem to reach out to the fellows behind the user/IP-masks, can you manage to have a conversation with this IP address?You may choose to view this t/p thread and the overall contributions by the IP address, before jumping on.Regards:)~ Winged BladesGodric 15:02, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 12:12:32, 7 February 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Jbharakda


Hi you rejected due to paid promotions but these are not paid promotions but are genuine news article, and sources are clearly mentioned. These are news articles in general press in India, I am not sure where you have assumed that these are paid please advise

Jbharakda (talk) 12:12, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jbharakda--Your improvements are enough.That's an checkY accept from me.FWIW, most interviews in Indian-Media are products of payment and that is a current consensus in the WP Circles and I have removed some of the references.~ Winged BladesGodric 15:19, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you but you have deleted and stripped so much text , consensus is not fact , plus you are talking about Sonu Nigam's sister being the sibling helps I guess newspapers approach her rather than her having to, is there anyway to get this text back or is it due to the reason that you believe its paid for ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbharakda (talkcontribs) 17:13, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Jbharakda:--Unsourced or trivially sourced texts written with the aim of promotion shall stand deleted. ~ Winged BladesGodric 17:16, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
And, for the very reason you mention along with lack of editorial independency in a majority of these interviews , these celebrity-associates shall be more scrutinised for encyclopedic notability courtesy the general inclination of the media to heavily cover the slightest of their moves. ~ Winged BladesGodric 17:23, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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I guess that shall be the responsibility of Mr.X.~ Winged BladesGodric 15:03, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: Draft:Love A Child

Hello Winged Blades of Godric. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Draft:Love A Child, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: It's not too horrendous, especially for a draft. . Thank you. GedUK  16:01, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note.Interpretation of G11 is subjective.~ Winged BladesGodric 16:05, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Urgent: About SSAEL Speedy Deletion

Hi Winged Blades, I have sent you this by mail as well.

I'd like you to know that this page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Shri_Shakti_Alternative_Energy_Limited_(SSAEL)) has come to you for review after a lot has been said and done with another editor Chetsford.

I understand your view is your view but could you humor me and look at it from my perspective? I'm copying below my first talk with Chetsford and request your reply in the light of the same:

Chetsford has asked me to re-submit it and (somewhat) promised of a more hopeful future of the draft.~ Winged BladesGodric 10:34, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Chetsford,

Thank you for your time spent reviewing my maiden attempt to have more Asian companies on Wikipedia (!) It seems my contribution lacked notability as you have declined it for this reason.

I have benchmarked the piece on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReNew_Power, which is a company of about the same size and business space and has similar citations and references. Can you nudge me to see what I am missing that allows this 'benchmark' company on wikipedia and mine not?

I have read each and every one of the links the page provided on 'referencing, notability and sources'. If there are specific citations that you suggest I replace, I will (if better ones exist).

Thanks in anticipation of your reply. Snathcb (talk) 06:50, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Snathcb - I think it's very close to being ready so please don't take the decline personally! I'll look at it tomorrow and provide some feedback with specific suggestions. But I do feel we're 90% of the way there. Great work! Chetsford (talk) 07:08, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

After this I made several corrections and he said - and I quote:

I think that's about it. If you can update these I think it would be in good shape, however, if you don't mind I'll ask a different person to review it. Chetsford (talk) 00:20, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

PLEASE Winged Blades, let's get me started. Or tell me why RenewPower [11] is ok.

Thanks, Snathcb (talk) 10:17, 8 February 2018 (UTC)Sandeep[reply]

AFAIR, your's draft was a clean G11 candidate, written in ad-speak.TonyBallioni--What's your take on this?! Ping Chetsford.~ Winged BladesGodric 10:26, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Anyways, what are your connections with SSAEL?~ Winged BladesGodric 10:26, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Re-pinging @TonyBallioni:.~ Winged BladesGodric 10:27, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The G11 was good. If they want the prose back, I can email it to them. I don't restore G11 text to user space or draft space. TonyBallioni (talk) 16:42, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Snathcb - I'm sorry if you perceived our exchange was a guarantee by me your article would pass AfC. After I declined your article creation request you asked me "If there are specific citations that you suggest I replace, I will" to which I replied with specific recommendations for improving sourcing (your question to me). This was the starting and ending point for our discussion: I provided you advice in response to your question about improving specific sources and, having done that I said the sourcing issue was "in good shape, however, if you don't mind I'll ask a different person to review it".
In light of this current discussion, I believe you may have thought I had just given you holistic article creation advice, or that our subsequent exchange had begun to evolve into an individualized article development session, instead of me simply continuing to respond to your specific question about source improvement. I also now believe you may have thought that when I said another editor should "review it" that I was actually signaling to you "approve it" or that AfC review was a rubber-stamp process. I apologize for not anticipating the different ways you might have perceived that. In the last exchange we had you asked me "will it be reviewed in the regular queue or on priority" and I told you I was unaware that anything like a priority queue existed. However, in re-reading that now, I should have realized you might have believed that, by posting on my Talk page, you had contacted an editing service and I should have done a better job identifying and correcting this misperception.
I'm afraid I don't remember anything about the content of your article by which I would be useful in answering additional questions about other issues it may have had beyond the specific question you posed to me about sourcing. I've declined hundreds of articles so understand this is nothing personal but just the reality that I don't commit any of them to memory or store copies offline by which I could reference them in the future. I also have not reviewed or edited ReNew Power, so I'm afraid I'm not familiar with that article by which I could comment on it. Chetsford (talk) 17:00, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
D~ Winged BladesGodric 15:44, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Blacklists etc

Since you seem to understand the convolutions of getting sites blacklisted etc at this place, perhaps you could find some time to look at whether or not newpakhistorian should be added? It is operated by a former WP contributor who also seems to have contributed to jatland. - Sitush (talk) 13:05, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Looking.~ Winged BladesGodric 16:29, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
newpakhistorian.wordpress.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:frSpamcheckMER-C X-wikigs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: searchmeta • Domain: domaintoolsAboutUs.com --Checking:)~ Winged BladesGodric 16:38, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The last time I looked, there were three outstanding mentions. I left them as an example for you but I've cleared out plenty of others over the years. The contributor went off in a huff a long time ago when their sourcing was questioned. Many, many of their articles have been deleted since but they'd already copied a lot over to their wordpress site and have continued to expand on things there. - Sitush (talk) 18:38, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Will be seeking a blacklisting. Done~ Winged BladesGodric 08:02, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 13:31, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Personal attacks

I believe you know that personal attacks are not allowed as per WP:PA--BTZorbas (talk) 16:21, 10 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@BTZorbas: That is in no way a personal attack. 331dot (talk) 17:17, 10 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@BTZorbas: I endorse this messsage. BTZorbas, if you do not actually go and read WP:NPA and its application, then it will also not be a personal attack to tell you that you do not know what you are talking about. >SerialNumber54129...speculates 17:22, 10 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@331dot and SN54129:--Thanks!~ Winged BladesGodric 17:39, 10 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Winged: I agree that it wasn't a "personal attack". However I also don't think it was accurate. User:BTZorbas isn't a "single-purpose account", just a user who appears to be interested in set theory and set theorists. I think most of us got started in one particular area of interest. I haven't loved all of his/her contributions or mode of interaction with other editors, but I see no clear evidence that they are "promotional" or "soapboxing". I should say that Todorcevic helped sponsor me for a one-year postdoc in Toronto. That was quite some time ago and I do not think it influences my judgment on this matter. --Trovatore (talk) 09:43, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Trovatore:--I seem to think that it do influence your judgement.COI editors with the sole intention to promote someone.....Sigh......Sigh....~ Winged BladesGodric 09:58, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I believe you are incorrect. My association with Todorcevic was relatively modest; I mentioned it only for full transparency. I have no project to promote him. My set-theory edits (and my own work in set theory) are generally in areas rather different from the subjects most closely associated with Todorcevic.
As for BTZorbas, I do not see any special focus on Todorcevic in his edits I'm going to use masculine pronouns for convenience; I don't actually know whether BTZorbas is male or female. His contributions show an interest in a considerable range of different set theorists and their work. --Trovatore (talk) 19:24, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Shocking Exposures Updated

Hi again Godric. Please take a look on the updated version of my draft with third party sources added about the documentary Shocking Exposures. Thanks In my solitude (talk) 09:21, 11 February 2018 (UTC) In my solitude (talk) 09:21, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I will, surely:)~ Winged BladesGodric 09:58, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again Godric. Please take another look. I've added a magazine review :) In my solitude (talk) 21:32, 13 February 2018 (UTC) In my solitude (talk) 21:32, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

21:59, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

makes me gald I don;t close AfD's. I'd be laughing and crying right now. -- Dlohcierekim (talk) 13:27, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Piece of cake: all but maybe one or two of the 'keep' !votes are from SPAs, MEATs, or otherwise convassed individuals / accounts and can (-should) be dismissed, out of the window, pah. >SerialNumber54129...speculates 13:41, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Craziness seems to be somewhat conducive.I was surprised or rather shocked to see an editor who is generally observable to be sane apparently willing to keep the article to attract Indian editors! ~ Winged BladesGodric 16:18, 15 February 2018 (UTC) ~ Winged BladesGodric 16:18, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

18:09:02, 15 February 2018 review of submission by Tony.bourached


Dear Winged Blades of Godric Thank you for your feedback, as pointed out the text was re-written and references amended. Can you please re-check and let me know. Tony.bourached (talk) 18:09, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]