User talk:Drmies

"Drmies is the only rational editor here."

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Category:Articles with a promotional tone from December 2017

Revenge of the Pink Poodle

Looks like pink poodles are in the news - Extreme dog grooming: Harmless fun or threat to pets? Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 12:59, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Not the first time, of course. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:41, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Well, I'm a poodle and I think mauve is my color this season! Now, back to putting onions on my feet. Geoff | ^{Who, me?} 16:10, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

• Oh, that's terrible. "On the Internet"...I wish I wrote that article. Drmies (talk) 17:05, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Recent discussion...

Just curious...about whether or not racism should/should not fall under the same guidelines as WP:MEDRS because it seems likely that it's somehow related to mental health. I did some quick research to see if my thinking was even remotely headed in the right direction, and the answer is yes. I gathered up a few diffs if you're interested: The Western journal of medicine, Psychology Today, British Journal of Psychiatry, WaPo article (to see what the media had to say), and The Oxford Handbook of Personality Disorders. The latter is not an open access journal but if you can access it, I'm interested in their findings under Individual Differences of Prejudice, Racism, and Xenophobia. ^{Atsme📞📧} 15:34, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

• I do not think that, no. If we stuck to our guns and stayed out of the news, maybe, but there also should be broad agreement that racism is to be treated as a mental illness, and I don't believe there is. Plus, racism is the belief that one race is better than the other, and there's much more agreement that race is a social construct than there is that it is a mental affliction. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 14:27, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

I received a note that content I posted on the Mike Levin article (linked also) pursuant to the findings of the San Diego County Democratic Party (noted below) was somehow libelous.

(Redacted) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nkbreen (talk • contribs) 05:18, 10 April 2018 (UTC) https://www.voiceofsandiego.org/topics/politics/politics-report-candidates-cannabis-use/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nkbreen (talk • contribs) 05:24, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @Nkbreen: You can link to, but not copy the entire contents of the letter here. See our copyright policy. See also Talk:Mike Levin and participate in the discussion there. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 05:28, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Matthew Smith (psychologist)

I downgraded this from CSD to AfD as I think we could do with consensus. It's in the usual place. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:11, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

• As you wish, boss--I dropped my "delete" vote there. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 03:44, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Muchas gracias!

Thanks so much for your encouragement. I was trolled by a fellow wiki last week, and when I wasn't laughing at the absurdity of the personal attack, I was feeling discouraged to contribute further to wikipedia. But I forged ahead and kept editing anyway because I love this project and want to improve it whenever possible. Thanks again for your kind words of encouragement. Kinkyturnip (talk) 19:30, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

• Ha, sure thing. I appreciate your work on that little article which certainly needed your help. Thanks for the note, and thanks for not giving up. And if you get trolled one way or another, there's help to be gotten. Drop me a line if I can do anything. Drmies (talk) 03:38, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

From the Simple Wikipedia

My edit to the marshal page was legit, look up far cry 5. Dont be an autist just because you don't believe my changes off the bat queer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1003:b452:6eea:51d2:20df:86a1:69a9 (talk • contribs)

• No idea what you're talking about. Now wash your mouth with soup. Drmies (talk) 16:59, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
  • I see the trolls have moved on from meta. Guess that was last month's colour. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:01, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
    • I don't mind being a bat queer though. I always knew I was a bit queer. Drmies (talk) 17:33, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
      • I have seen things about gay penguins, however, I have never seen things about gay winged mammals. But absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, of course. MPS1992 (talk) 21:56, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
        • The Bonin fruit bat is on List_of_mammals_displaying_homosexual_behavior.--Dlohcierekim (talk) 22:59, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
          • Thank you. I often think I would have been better not saying anything :) That creature is specifically called "the grope-about fruit bat". Scroll-like nostrils are always a bad sign. But anyway, I think it would be very sad if they went extinct. MPS1992 (talk) 23:15, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

The World Tomorrow (radio and television) protection

I saw that you had protected The World Tomorrow (radio and television). In the protection log, you said "you can't fix stupid, but you can semi-protect it". However, you actually extended-confirmed-protected the article. Was that a mistake and was it supposed to be semi-protected? — MRD2014 ^Talk 21:23, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

• Ha, I guess you can fix stupid. Must have misclicked--thanks! Drmies (talk) 01:01, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Page protection

Hi Drmies, can you protect the Philadelphia Flyers article? Thanks. -KH-1 (talk) 01:43, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

• Done. What's happening? Drmies (talk) 01:45, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Apparently they were thoroughly beaten in a match and the other team is gloating. -KH-1 (talk) 01:47, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Sports fans are among the most pathetic people. Roll Tide, Drmies (talk) 01:48, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Equal Justice Initiative

EJI published those studies, and received international media coverage for the last one, Lynching in America (2015), which is now in its 3rd edition. The discussion was from the report itself, and I had sources such as NPR and the NY Times discussing the report when first published. The LA Times covered it, as did the Guardian, as I recall. Founder Bryan Stevenson has talked about the lynching report, and its connection to his work on building a memorial to lynching victims in Montgomery, Alabama. The more detailed material about the 2015 report and the earlier studies, all published by EJI, has been in this article for three years.Parkwells (talk) 01:52, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

• Yes, EJI published those studies. That doesn't mean that an article about the EJI should list them. I condensed the section you reinstated--the "main link" was obviously inapplicable, two of the reports did not have secondary sourcing, and some of the language was not neutral. That some material was in the article for three years means it was there way too long. If you really want to improve the article, incorporate a link to National Memorial to Peace and Justice and/or improve the article for that memorial. I know you worked on it some, but perhaps you also saw who wrote the stub in the first place. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 01:58, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Serenade (poems)

Hello! Your submission of Serenade (poems) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 00:21, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Parkchester Department Of Public Safety

Can you allow me to re do my article I am the creator of the article contents you deleted? Lobosuperstar (talk) 00:26, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

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Botdf

Wait, hang on...I was in the middle of some restructuring. It looks like you may have straight-up reverted again, but really, I don't think we want to start with that material. Before you started trimming things, a newbie had come along and astroturfed the fuck out of the article. The older source material, while pretty bad, is really better than what you were trimming and cite-tagging. Chubbles (talk) 00:20, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

• No, I didn't revert anything: I restored a few paragraphs from which I had trimmed some serious fat, and tweaked a few more. Drmies (talk) 01:09, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
• Are you talking about the edits by Dzkly or whatever? Right before their edits I don't see much difference in sourcing. What is the best version, in your mind? We can go ahead and work from that. Drmies (talk) 01:13, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

  I just wanted to make sure that useful referencing didn't get scrapped - it looked like Dsxly was overwriting content that had been sourced to sites like Absolute Punk, which is now defunct but was at one time a major online punk news source. (One caveat, though, is that Absolute Punk hosted both editor-reviewed news/reviews and user-submitted messageboards, and one of the sources linked to a user-submitted rumor.) The more I look at the article, though...honestly, I'm not all that opposed to WP:TNTing the prose content, there's so much hot garbage. Chubbles (talk) 01:19, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

• And the sourcing is just terrible at all points in the history I checked. Did you see how many BLP violations were in the article? Drmies (talk) 01:22, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

• It's been a dumpster fire from the start. I had to lasso the moon just to establish the article in the first place, because it had been deleted and recreated so many times; there were editors devoted to trying to keep the article from existing at all, until the band debuted in the Top 50 of the American charts and their notability became undeniable. I chose not to keep a close watch on it, and most of the editors are teenage fans, so the quality of content is predictable. Chubbles (talk) 01:38, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

• Speaking of which: look at my latest cut. I just read this, and if indeed the singer was a douchebag leading a hate campaign, I'd hate to cut the content but the Buzzfeed article doesn't verify that, nor could I find evidence in reliable sources of the single etc. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 01:45, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

• There is a longstanding gossip train about BOTDF's members and certain legal infelicities that the Buzzfeed article touches upon. It has been introduced into this article hundreds of times, never once with adequate vetted sourcing. Chubbles (talk) 01:52, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

• Ha, yes, I saw something on Tumblr. I also listened to a couple of videos, which confirm that I'm an old man. (But man that's some cheesy middle of the road synth pop!) Drmies (talk) 01:56, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for thanking me on my edit. You seem pretty blunt, yet pretty straightforward, and I respect that. Rock on. UnsungKing123 (talk) 02:21, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

• Well, you know, I do what I can on a budget. You may remember we could have run into each other on Gay Mommy's user page, or whoever that a-hole was. But yes, I was fine with the revert, but the moment you explain why it needs reverting the editor knows, and the admins know too. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 02:24, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

T.D. Hoxey

• T.D. Hoxey (talk · contribs)
• Pepa (rapper) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

1. 21:37, 22 January 2018
2. 19:35, 6 February 2018
3. 03:28, 20 April 2018

Warning: 22:06, 6 February 2018

Since you have experience trying to work with @T.D. Hoxey:, I thought it best to first see what you think rather than immediately escalating it to a wider audience. The most recent edit that changes verified information without changing the sources or indicating a verifying source seems over the line to me. --Ronz (talk) 15:34, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

• Ronz--I think you should start an SPI, charging that Hoxey and Vidal 1077 be CU'ed and blocked as socks. Tag NinjaRobotPirate, who placed a rangeblock referencing a "date vandal" a few days ago. Ask a real CU (haha) to see what else is on that range. I'd do it but I need a snack right now. Thanks for following up. Drmies (talk) 15:46, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

• Hope you enjoyed your snack break. Everything is done.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:24, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

And there was me thinking we had an Irish MP in our midst  :) —SerialNumber54129 ^{paranoia /cheap sh*t room} 15:52, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Good call on the possible socking. It doesn't smell of paid editing, but rather BATTLE and OWN to an extreme that I've rarely seen. Very strange. --Ronz (talk) 00:16, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

• I started browsing around, found a few things, and decided CU was called for--and then ran into the earlier block for the other, as well as a rangeblock with a telling edit summary. Sometimes you get lucky, and sometimes you can smell em. Bbb23, thank you as always for your time and your expertise. Yes, Ronz, what an odd thing, huh--but you and I have been here long enough to see some weird, weird fetishes. One of em was editing the list of fetishes, BTW. Drmies (talk) 01:34, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Man, there are a few people on here who have dedicated their lives to making one trivial change to a specific article (or set of articles). This can go on for years. A few of them even have their own personal edit filter. There's one that I recently realized was a series of sock puppets stretching back several years, doing nothing but genre warring on the Eagles' discography. Dude is seriously obsessed with labeling "Hotel California" as "hard rock". Anyway, sorry I'm late to the party. I haven't been logging in to Wikipedia as much the past week or two. It seems like every time I do, there's a huge amount of drama waiting to be resolved. Did you ever realize that the F5 key is the "create drama" key? Try it! It works on almost any talk page on Wikipedia. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 03:35, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
    • DUDE THAT IS TOTALLY FUCKING HARD ROCK ARE U STUPID — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drmies (talk • contribs) 01:31, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Evade

Hi Drmies

FYI. This user is evading your block of 2A02:4780:BAD:25:FCED:1FF:FE25:109 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), using yet another web host proxy, this time in the Ukraine.- MrX 🖋 18:18, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

• Hey--so it's two IPs, 91.210.164.207 and 91.215.152.12. Maybe someone who knows proxies better than me can look into it, and see if there's other stuff to be done, like checking the range, maybe? User:Revi~enwiki? Maybe NeilN has more tricks up their sleeve, after blocking one of them.

DYK for Serenade (poems)

On 22 April 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Serenade (poems), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that J. Slauerhoff's 1930 poetry collection Serenade provoked critical responses ranging from "childish" to "pure lyric" with "refined technique"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Serenade (poems). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Serenade (poems)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 12:02, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Photogram

Hi Drmies. I'm new to wikipedia, so I'm not sure if this is how you respond. You wrote regarding my edit to Photogram, just wanted to reply. Actually Kwangho Cheh (최광호) is actually super well know in the korean art world although not so much in the US. There are a lot of newspapers, blogs, and textbooks that discuss/teach about him in korea. The reference I added was actually a link to a newspaper that wrote about him. I went to a couple of his galleries in korea as well. What would be the proper way to add this information to wikipedia?

Stephjaelee (talk) 01:29, 23 April 2018 (UTC)Stephjaelee

• Stephjaelee, thanks for the note. Here's the thing: those lists always include people with Wikipedia articles, and typically exclude those without ("no article, no entry"). So the best thing to do is to write the article, which is also much more satisfying than just adding someone on a list. WP:FIRST has templates and guidance, and WP:NARTIST has notes on the guidelines for notability. Try writing your artist up, citing reliable sources (not just resumes, websites, etc.). Drmies (talk) 01:33, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Ahhh that makes sense thank you. I will consider adding a page about him....but this will require me to research his work on Korean websites or reaching out to him or someone on his team...which would be more than just going to galleries and reading about him in books.... I was looking for a quick way to add to the information about a Korean Photographer who was well known in one country but not in another due to language. I also added links to my edit that were newspapers or detailed in a blog, so people would know what I was talking about...would this not be enough? He also doesn't have a korean page, because korean people seem to use Naver or Daum more. He does have a Naver page written in Korean, but I'm guessing that for these lists you only accept english articles correct? Stephjaelee (talk) 01:45, 23 April 2018 (UTC)Stephjaelee