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:::For BOTH of you - unsourced and uncited changes will be restored to the last known good version before either of you touched the article. Corrections to existing pronunciations need to be supported by [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. My next step is to report you both for [[WP:EW|edit warring]]. Take your concerns to the article talk pages, and reach a consensus before making further changes. '''[[User:ScrapIronIV|<span style="color:#306b1e">Scr<span style="background:#0404B4;border-radius:7px;color:#FFFFFF">★</span>pIron</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:ScrapIronIV|<span style="color:#6E6E6E">IV</span>]]</sup>''' 12:41, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
:::For BOTH of you - unsourced and uncited changes will be restored to the last known good version before either of you touched the article. Corrections to existing pronunciations need to be supported by [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. My next step is to report you both for [[WP:EW|edit warring]]. Take your concerns to the article talk pages, and reach a consensus before making further changes. '''[[User:ScrapIronIV|<span style="color:#306b1e">Scr<span style="background:#0404B4;border-radius:7px;color:#FFFFFF">★</span>pIron</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:ScrapIronIV|<span style="color:#6E6E6E">IV</span>]]</sup>''' 12:41, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
::::Thanks for restoring the good version of Pescara. I assure you that I have no intention of warring; my sole purpose is to contribute accurate, and thus informative, content to Wikipedia. I'm quite amenable to engaging in civil discussion. In the case of syllabification of Italian s+C clusters, the mix-up should be easily resolvable once background information is considered and understood, both the empirical facts of Italian phonetics-phonology and the differing purposes/practices of Italian dictionaries vs. informed objective studies of actual phonetics (Sabatini and Coletti, for example, make it clear in the intro to their dictionary -- p. v -- that the syllabification they provide of "difficult" clusters does not necessarily correspond to actual syllabification). There is one concern re sourcing. Syllabification of s+C is a basic phonological principle that applies wherever the cluster is encountered; it's unlikely that an acceptable source can be found for every specific instance, in which case the source is reference to the principle itself. In any case, thanks for your help in sorting this out. [[Special:Contributions/47.32.20.133|47.32.20.133]] ([[User talk:47.32.20.133|talk]]) 13:35, 11 October 2018 (UTC)


ScrapIronIV, have you read what I've written about the phonetic issue and watched the sources I've brought? Please have a look [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AScrapIronIV&type=revision&diff=863455228&oldid=863432780 here] to this edit of mine, where everything is already explained. 47.32.20.133 isn't stupid at all, he's quite clever, he's acting polite and using fake arguments to manipulate you and make you do what he wants. Just look at facts and nothing else: those Italian IPAs have always been there and are identical to the same IPAs in Italian wiki; then this anon has come here and, against sources, consistency, logic and (overall) consensus, started a personal war against these correct and consensual phonetic transcriptions. Isn't it as I've just written? So, I'm asking you, please, to keep an eye on him and revert him again in case he should make such disruptive edits again. Just one final note: ''the last known good version'' before either of us touched the article '''Pescara''' is [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pescara&type=revision&diff=861188828&oldid=860274495 this], while you've restored [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pescara&type=revision&diff=863480865&oldid=861188828 this], the anon's personal version (have a look [https://books.google.com/books?id=Co_VIPIJerIC&pg=PA59#v=onepage&q&f=false here] to the [[Merriam-Webster's Geographical Dictionary]] if you have any doubts about the properness of the syllabification "Pe-sca-ra")... [[User:Mosidan|Mosidan]] ([[User talk:Mosidan|talk]]) 13:33, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
ScrapIronIV, have you read what I've written about the phonetic issue and watched the sources I've brought? Please have a look [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AScrapIronIV&type=revision&diff=863455228&oldid=863432780 here] to this edit of mine, where everything is already explained. 47.32.20.133 isn't stupid at all, he's quite clever, he's acting polite and using fake arguments to manipulate you and make you do what he wants. Just look at facts and nothing else: those Italian IPAs have always been there and are identical to the same IPAs in Italian wiki; then this anon has come here and, against sources, consistency, logic and (overall) consensus, started a personal war against these correct and consensual phonetic transcriptions. Isn't it as I've just written? So, I'm asking you, please, to keep an eye on him and revert him again in case he should make such disruptive edits again. Just one final note: ''the last known good version'' before either of us touched the article '''Pescara''' is [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pescara&type=revision&diff=861188828&oldid=860274495 this], while you've restored [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pescara&type=revision&diff=863480865&oldid=861188828 this], the anon's personal version (have a look [https://books.google.com/books?id=Co_VIPIJerIC&pg=PA59#v=onepage&q&f=false here] to the [[Merriam-Webster's Geographical Dictionary]] if you have any doubts about the properness of the syllabification "Pe-sca-ra")... [[User:Mosidan|Mosidan]] ([[User talk:Mosidan|talk]]) 13:33, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

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DYK for Fiat 130 HP

HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:02, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
For your diverse, interesting and consistently good contributions thus far. Often, this kind of work goes unnoticed, until now! Cheers. CassiantoTalk 18:41, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A beer for you!

Thanks! Kyle121101 (talk) 22:08, 31 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A beer for you!

Thanks for the help on the Royal Malaysian Air Force article, and keeping right, much appreciated - Cheers FOX 52 (talk) 17:01, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks much - I could use it. That one keeps coming back again, and again. ScrpIronIV 20:31, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

barnstar

The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
For noticing and proactively addressing potential COI-issues editors. LavaBaron (talk) 00:36, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Z147

A beer for you!

I'm just now seeing all of the fallout of the sockpuppet activity on Universe Sandbox ². Great to know you had it under control! Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:25, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You couldn't even put a bet on that!

At 20:15 on 30 October 2015 you completed an edit on Peppa Pig. A minute later, on the same day, you edited John Wayne. Just how does your mind work? CassiantoTalk 09:30, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There are some who would claim it doesn't :-) it was probably me just monitoring my watch list, which is an eclectic mess... ScrpIronIV 14:10, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Anti-Spam Barnstar
I'll second the congratulations, only this time it's from a fellow experienced Wikipedia editor. Always good to have another ally on the lookout for WP:COI and WP:SOAPBOX edits. Keep up the good work! Drm310 (talk) 04:23, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A Dobos torte for you!

7&6=thirteen () has given you a Dobos torte to enjoy! Seven layers of fun because you deserve it.


To give a Dobos torte and spread the WikiLove, just place {{subst:Dobos Torte}} on someone else's talkpage, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

7&6=thirteen () 21:42, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Looks quite tasty - Thank you so much! ScrpIronIV 21:44, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Thanks for protecting my user page form vandals! InsertCleverPhraseHere 21:10, 15 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]


A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diligence
Thank you for your vigilance ScrapIronIV! Loslazos (talk) 13:50, 12 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you!

For noticing stealthy sock puppetry. Thank you.

Lavenderly (talk) 23:41, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you!

Thank you for keeping a keen eye out.

Lavenderly (talk) 13:13, 13 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Branford College

Thanks for catching that. I have fond memories of the place. Doug Weller talk 19:45, 19 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to be useful on occasion :-) ScrpIronIV 20:00, 19 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Century III Mall page

Hi, I'm the admin of the Century III Mall Memories page on Facebook. Much of the content featured on the page was written by me. Unfortunately, it appears that it has been removed. As the author of the material submitted to the page, I've given my permission to feature our material on Wikipedia. If you need a way to verify that this is who I am, just send me a private message on the Century III Mall Memories page. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CenturyIIIMallMemories (talkcontribs) 02:56, 22 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(watching) @CenturyIIIMallMemories: FWIW, it seems it was actually Airplanes747 who added the material—Was that you also? —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 10:31, 22 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Estate values on pages of Old Hollywood stars

I have not added Richard Burton's estate figures back to his page yet. However, I added it in originally due to the fact this sort of detail appears in the following:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tallulah_Bankhead#Retirement_and_death https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedy_Lamarr#Later_years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlene_Dietrich#Estate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judy_Garland#Death https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincente_Minnelli#Death https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greta_Garbo#Death https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Dressler#Death

On the basis of this particular detail appearing in so many articles and being considered relevant information, I think reverting the details on Richard Burtons page is incorrect. Thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charlieh 55 (talkcontribs) 04:19, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. If you see this information on other pages, such cruft should be removed. It is not justification for including it in new articles, or adding it to existing ones. ScrpIronIV 12:54, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

College Football, Ice Hockey, and Hurling/Gaelic football for Fenway Park - DylanFaraci98

I am providing the link for each team/event in the table. And 85-90% of the time it shows exactly what is shown in the table. It kind of pisses me off because this is the second time this has happened.

In addition to linking, you must supply a reliable source that specifies that these games were held in this location. Unsourced additions have been challenged, and are not to be restored without a citation to a reliable source. ScrpIronIV 12:43, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Italian IPA section

47.32.20.133 is an anon from USA who's been keeping lately intruding in non-English phonetic issues, especially Italian. He's used to arbitrarily making changes not shared by anyone else, and when he's reverted he doesn't stop but goes on edit-warring, as you've seen. About the present issue, he's showing his unsuitability to take care about it: Italian syllabification, when there's an /s/ before another consonant ("S impura"), prescribes that the /s/ is always at the beginning of the following syllable, never at the end of the previous; now, since the IPA stress mark ˈ goes right before the stressed syllable, for consistency reasons it should precede the /s/ instead of following it. Don't you think so too? You asked for sources. Well, here's a page from the major Italian encyclopedy Treccani, and here's the book "Analisi contrastiva in glottodidattica: tra teoria e pratica in classi tedesco L1/italiano LS". And, in case you want to verify that the correct syllabification is "ca-stel-lo", you can check any Italian dictionary, such as the following: ca stel lo.Last but not least: I have nothing to do with the other anons you rollbacked some time ago, 37.169.1.133 and 75.37.201.17, but I don't think that 47.32.20.133 is involved either. Mosidan (talk) 21:33, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ScrapIron, I'm glad you're on top of the warring that's going on (Castel Gandolfo, Città di Castello). I have no intention of warring; I just want to get the information right. If you review the little history of those two, you'll see that I gave explanation and sources (perhaps not in standard form, but the guy reverting knows exactly what they are -- see below; he's seen the source many times before), and at least once I requested that the reverter (who gave no sources or reason for reverting) stop warring and take disagreements to talk. It's a long story, but this guy has been chasing me around for quite a while, with different monikers. At first I thought he was serious, and dug up lots of information on Italian phonetic syllabification that very clearly illustrates the point in question, from recognized experts in Italian phonology and phonetics as well as an Italian encyclopedia, and posted it to a talk page. To no avail. He just reverts. (I'll make a correction now on a page I've never worked on before; unless you've sent him the same warning and he takes it seriously, it's a safe bet that he'll chase it down and revert that one, too.) I'd appreciate your advice on how to improve articles with accurate information in such a situation. Thanks. 47.32.20.133 (talk) 01:34, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Bingo. Like clockwork. Reverted, claiming that my doubly-sourced correction was disruptive (ignoring and and removing the references, of course). Literally incorrigible. The irony in this one is that it takes no knowledge of Italian phonotactics to sort it out: the audio in "listen" is very clearly [sˈk], not [ˈsk]. 47.32.20.133 (talk) 12:31, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
For BOTH of you - unsourced and uncited changes will be restored to the last known good version before either of you touched the article. Corrections to existing pronunciations need to be supported by reliable sources. My next step is to report you both for edit warring. Take your concerns to the article talk pages, and reach a consensus before making further changes. ScrpIronIV 12:41, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for restoring the good version of Pescara. I assure you that I have no intention of warring; my sole purpose is to contribute accurate, and thus informative, content to Wikipedia. I'm quite amenable to engaging in civil discussion. In the case of syllabification of Italian s+C clusters, the mix-up should be easily resolvable once background information is considered and understood, both the empirical facts of Italian phonetics-phonology and the differing purposes/practices of Italian dictionaries vs. informed objective studies of actual phonetics (Sabatini and Coletti, for example, make it clear in the intro to their dictionary -- p. v -- that the syllabification they provide of "difficult" clusters does not necessarily correspond to actual syllabification). There is one concern re sourcing. Syllabification of s+C is a basic phonological principle that applies wherever the cluster is encountered; it's unlikely that an acceptable source can be found for every specific instance, in which case the source is reference to the principle itself. In any case, thanks for your help in sorting this out. 47.32.20.133 (talk) 13:35, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ScrapIronIV, have you read what I've written about the phonetic issue and watched the sources I've brought? Please have a look here to this edit of mine, where everything is already explained. 47.32.20.133 isn't stupid at all, he's quite clever, he's acting polite and using fake arguments to manipulate you and make you do what he wants. Just look at facts and nothing else: those Italian IPAs have always been there and are identical to the same IPAs in Italian wiki; then this anon has come here and, against sources, consistency, logic and (overall) consensus, started a personal war against these correct and consensual phonetic transcriptions. Isn't it as I've just written? So, I'm asking you, please, to keep an eye on him and revert him again in case he should make such disruptive edits again. Just one final note: the last known good version before either of us touched the article Pescara is this, while you've restored this, the anon's personal version (have a look here to the Merriam-Webster's Geographical Dictionary if you have any doubts about the properness of the syllabification "Pe-sca-ra")... Mosidan (talk) 13:33, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Francesca Reale

Why are you removing my content? Mjbmaster (talk) 06:31, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The issue is that you keep adding peacock terms like "upscale", "popular" and "affluent" without citing any sources. Such editorializing and puffery is not within Wikipedia's standards of neutral writing. ScrpIronIV 12:34, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]