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: {{tps}} PNG is not “a superior archival format”&nbsp;– seemingly somebody here conflates it with [[TIFF]]. But it is, in fact, the only raster format supported by Wikimedia which is appropriate for pictures consisting of colorful lines, especially over bright background. JPEG is ''severely ill-advised'' for such images due to at least three reasons; read more at [[project:Preparing images for upload]] here and on Commons. Surely this is SVG which is really “superior” than raster stuff, but not all users are handy with SVG whereas just choosing [<nowiki/>[[PNG]]] instead of the default [JPEG] in a drop-down menu (on saving the drawing) is an option accessible for everybody having IQ about 100. [[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 04:57, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
: {{tps}} PNG is not “a superior archival format”&nbsp;– seemingly somebody here conflates it with [[TIFF]]. But it is, in fact, the only raster format supported by Wikimedia which is appropriate for pictures consisting of colorful lines, especially over bright background. JPEG is ''severely ill-advised'' for such images due to at least three reasons; read more at [[project:Preparing images for upload]] here and on Commons. Surely this is SVG which is really “superior” than raster stuff, but not all users are handy with SVG whereas just choosing [<nowiki/>[[PNG]]] instead of the default [JPEG] in a drop-down menu (on saving the drawing) is an option accessible for everybody having IQ about 100. [[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 04:57, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
:::Thanks, everyone -- all's well that ends well.[[User:Synchronist|Synchronist]] ([[User talk:Synchronist|talk]]) 07:54, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
:::Thanks, everyone -- all's well that ends well.[[User:Synchronist|Synchronist]] ([[User talk:Synchronist|talk]]) 07:54, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
::::P.S. Dennis, if you wanted to email me (Glenn Smith) at gsmith@space-machines.com, there's some additional background info I could share about the consolidated plot.[[User:Synchronist|Synchronist]] ([[User talk:Synchronist|talk]]) 00:13, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

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@Dreamy Jazz: Thank you for your "Happy Holidays" Greeting - Happy Holidays to you as well - your Greeting is *very much* appreciated - Thanks again - and - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 22:09, 23 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Merry Christmas! A Christmas cookie for you. Thanks for all your volunteer work. All the best Cheers, Rowan Forest (talk) 17:56, 24 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Rowan Forest: Thank you *very much* for your Christmas cookie - and comments - Happy Holidays to you as well - Thanks again - and - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 18:07, 24 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed long ago that there is no article on pre-biotic chemistry, and it only has a redirect to a disambiguation page called Chemical evolution. Similarly, Prebiotic (chemistry) redirects to Abiogenesis. If I create it, would it be too redundant with Abiogenesis? Are you interested in expanding it if I create it? But would that make me a creationist? Rowan Forest (talk) 18:33, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Rowan Forest: Thanks for your comments - might be a consideration (re "Prebiotic chemistry", "Pre-biotic chemistry", "Prebiotic (chemistry)" or the like) - but may be redundant with abiogenesis - however - if you decide to work on such an article that may be differentiated in some way from abiogenesis, I might help to expand the article when possible - hope this helps - iac - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 18:59, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Rowan Forest: Brief Followup - created new redirect (ie, "Pre-biotic chemistry"), retargeted "Prebiotic chemistry" to "Abiogenesis" - instead of "Chemical evolution" dab, alphabetized "Chemical evolution" dab - all noted redirects now target "Abiogenesis" - hope these adjs are *entirely* ok - and helpful in some way - please let me know if otherwise of course - iac - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 20:13, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, prebiotic chemistry is abiogenesis. The redirects are appreciated. Cheers, Rowan Forest (talk) 20:43, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What an interesting article! I had a great time reading it, and it's very well-written. Are you nominating it for DYK? cymru.lass (talkcontribs) 16:12, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Cymru.lass: Thank you *very much* for your comments - and suggestion - they're *greatly* appreciated - no - haven't thought of adding the news to "DYK" (seems worthy to nominate imo of course) - however - the news is currently being considered for "ITN" at => "Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates#(Posted) Four new letters in DNA alphabet" (update: now posted to ITN) - (also, if interested, the news has been posted to "my FaceBook page") - in any case - Thanks again for your own comments and all - and - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 16:46, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Drbogdan, you're very welcome!! If it doesn't pass muster at ITN for being too "sciencey" (sigh), definitely nominate it for DYK. If you've never done a DYK nomination, let me know and I can walk you through it—I recently did my first myself. Cheers!! cymru.lass (talkcontribs) 16:53, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Hachimoji DNA

On 24 February 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Hachimoji DNA, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Zanhe (talk) 09:54, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Zanhe: - Thank you *very much* for your post regarding ITN recognition (related discussion) for the Hachimoji DNA article - it's *greatly* appreciated - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 12:59, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for writing up the article so quickly, I really enjoyed reading it! Many people on ITN (and Wikipedia in general) are too focused on pop culture. It's baffling how some regard the death of a fashion designer as more significant than the creation of artificial DNA letters (unless they flunked their high school biology). -Zanhe (talk) 01:37, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
And you did a very good job on the table. That was not easy. Thanks, Rowan Forest (talk) 22:49, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Rowan Forest: Thanks for your comments - and appreciation - as well as your own recent *Excellent* edits on the "Hachimoji DNA" article - your edits are *Greatly* appreciated - the table was somewhat new to me, but fun learning - currently, trying to convert one of the images in the table (ie, File:Hachimoji P base.svg) from PNG to an SVG with only vector elements (and no raster elements) - seems my efforts could have been better - maybe fun for some other day - Thanks again for your comments - and - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 23:11, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Athena mission to Pallas

I just created this stub and I would be delighted if you expand on it as time permits: Athena (spacecraft). One pressing question is which program or project is making this competition between SmallSats and CubeSats. Cheers, Rowan Forest (talk) 22:44, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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It is perhaps useful to point out that the images of the original article[1] can be freely uploaded under the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License!--MWAK (talk) 10:56, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@MWAK: Thank you very much for your comments - yes - I think I realized this sometimes after uploading the image - Thanks again for your comments - and - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 12:25, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I shall :o). I could also quickly expand the article, creating room for more of the images, which you then might upload on Commons...--MWAK (talk) 13:44, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@MWAK: - Yes - expanding the article seems like a good idea - I'll try (time and all permitting) to upload relevant images from the original article - Thanks for your comments - and suggested efforts - and - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 13:50, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@MWAK: FWIW - images in the original article[1] (seems some of the images have been used, or referenced, in related articles[2][3]) have now been uploaded to Commons & added to the "Avimaia schweitzerae" article (at least in a temporary way - for starters) - hope this helps in some way - in any case - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 16:48, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ a b Bailleul, Alida M.; et al. (20 March 2019). "An Early Cretaceous enantiornithine (Aves) preserving an unlaid egg and probable medullary bone". Nature Communications. 10 (1275). doi:10.1038/s41467-019-09259-x. Retrieved 22 March 2019.
  2. ^ Pickrell, John (20 March 2019). "Unlaid egg discovered in ancient bird fossil". Science. doi:10.1126/science.aax3954. Retrieved 22 March 2019.
  3. ^ Greshko, Michael (20 March 2019). "In a first, fossil bird found with unlaid egg - "I couldn't even sleep at night," the lead paleontologist says of her reaction to the discovery". National Geographic Society. Retrieved 22 March 2019.
Excellent! I'll start expanding the article.--MWAK (talk) 18:33, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. About that PT template you made two years ago ;-) This TfD said it is unused, but I noted there that it might be a useful improvement still. So today I tried to make it work. Goal: in article periodic table, the first template better be clickable.

Now I just discovered that it requires an image (jpg, png) but not an svg. I am thinking if the svg could be made clickable (File:Simple_Periodic_Table_Chart-en.svg), in a different way.

I have noted the site you mentioned to map an image, imagemap-generator.dariodomi.de. So maybe not this time, but I know other situations where I could use that site. Thanks for this contribution. -DePiep (talk) 18:06, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@DePiep: Thank you for your comments - and recent efforts with the PT template - pretty sure I tried to use an SVG image version some years ago - but also without success - also yes - the noted imagemap link ( at => http://imagemap-generator.dariodomi.de/ ) was very helpful with this template at the time, and with several other of my earlier (beginner-level) template efforts, including => Template:Renoir-BoatingParty-ImageMap - in any case - Thanks again for your comments and your own template efforts - and - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 18:35, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I enjoyed this Renoir on your page! Must be done smart, don't have the time to explore it now. BTW I've asked for a clickable svg here. Have a nice edit. -DePiep (talk) 18:39, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, poly, nice. -DePiep (talk) 18:42, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@DePiep: Thanks - if interested - besides the "Template:Renoir-BoatingParty-ImageMap", several other of "my templates" also used the noted imagemap link, including => "Template:Features and artificial objects on Mars" - as well as - the related "Template:Mars map" - iac - Thanks again - and - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 18:55, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Great! DePiep
  • While I am here, a question. I have an issue with imagemap, and I don't have time (or knowledge) to solve it.
Template:NFPA 704 diamond(edit talk links history) (I created; they are safety code numbers for chemicals) uses imagemap to respond to clicking the diamonds. All fine, used in {{Chembox}} and {{Drugbox}}. See mobile [1] (for ammonia).
The problem is: in mobile view the numbers are shifted downwards (lowered in their diamonds). Any idea for improvement? -DePiep (talk) 19:15, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@DePiep: Thanks for your comments - and concern - yes - seems verified with my own pc systems - "desktop view" all seems ok with all browsers tested (ie, Windows 10/Dell 8930/Chrome Browser-v73.0.3683.86/64-bit & Firefox Browser-v66.0.1/64-bit & Opera Browser-v58.0.3135.118/64-bit) - also yes - "mobile view" presents the numbers all lower in the diamond - interesting - don't know the answer to this at the moment, but asking the question on the "Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)" may be a good way to find out I would think - hope this helps in some way - Thanks again - and - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 19:40, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, but it does not have priority over here. So much more to improve! Best. -DePiep (talk) 19:45, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@DePiep: Added the following to "Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)" => "Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Numbers OK in "Desktop View" - but Very Low in "Mobile View"?" - perhaps - someone may have the time, and wherewithal to solve this - hope this helps - iac - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 20:23, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Copied from "Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Numbers OK in "Desktop View" - but Very Low in "Mobile View"?"

-- Numbers OK in "Desktop View" - but Very Low in "Mobile View"? --

Numbers added to the "Template:NFPA 704 diamond" are *entirely* OK in the usual "Desktop View" (see, for example, the noted diamond and added numbers in the "Ammonia" article) - HOWEVER - the added numbers are all *significantly lower* in the noted diamond in the "Mobile View" of the same "Ammonia" article (esp with Windows 10/Dell8930/Chrome-Firefox-Opera Browsers) - Thanking you in advance for your help with this - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 20:08, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Just to let you know, I've removed the 'man's place in nature' image from this template. I have explained why on the template's talk page. I suspect you know already what I've written there, and why. If not, feel free to discuss; the message is always the same. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:08, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Chiswick Chap: Thank you for your comments re the "Evolutionary biology template" - and your explanation at "Template talk:Evolutionary biology#Image" (well stated imo) - no problem whatsoever on my part - should note that the original image effort began with other editors on the "Evolution" talk-page at => "Talk:Evolution#Should this article have a lead image?" - my role was to be supportive with this effort - Thanks again for your own comments - and - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 13:20, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine, the box does have a very good image in Darwin's Finches, which is both sufficient and appropriate. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:24, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Homo luzonensis

On 11 April 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Homo luzonensis, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page.

Stephen 22:52, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Stephen: Thank you for your comments - and for ITN recognition consideration re "Homo luzonensis" - it's *greatly* appreciated - Thanks again - and - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 23:04, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Planetary Nebula NGC 7027 - age and distance

Dr Bogdan,

I have a possibly naive question relating to planetary nebula NGC 7027 (NGC_7027), to which you recently contributed). Is there an error in the article or is there an explanation to what follows? I read that this PN is only ~600 years old (I checked the source in note 8, the citation is correct). I also read that this PN is located ~3000 light-years from us (I checked the source in note 2, the citation is correct). If I understand correctly, this means that what we currently observe is what used to take place ~2400 years before this PN came into existence. But I also find a Hubble image of this PN in the article (looks like it's a photograph of what we will only be able to see in a few thousand years, i.e. it seems to have required a time machine, but there is no such indication in the article)... Do I miss something or is there an error in the article? Whatever the answer, I assume that some clarification might be needed in the article. Thanks in advance and sorry for asking you specifically - didn't know who to write to.

BR — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.25.191.177 (talk) 13:17, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your post - good questions - perhaps the best place to find answers to your questions is on the related talk-page - at => "Talk:NGC 7027" - I'm copying this post to that talk-page (at => "Talk:NGC 7027#Planetary Nebula NGC 7027 - age and distance") - perhaps someone more knowledgeable about this than I at the moment will be able to help you with your questions - Thanks again for your post - and - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 13:39, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Climate change - task force

Hello Drbogdan,

You are currently noted as a participant of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Environment/Climate change task force. With much of the activity in this task force about ten years ago, I think it's time for a revival. Global warming is getting a lot of attention in the media now and it's therefore important our articles are up-to-date, accurate and neutral.

I've updated the task force page and the to do list and invite you to have a look at the page again, add something to the TO DO list or start collaborating by improving one of our many articles. If climate change has lost your interest, feel free to remove your name from the participants list.

Femke Nijsse (talk) 16:41, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Femkemilene: Thank you for your comments - and suggestions - busy at the moment, but may consider your suggestions further at the next opportunity - Thanks again - and - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 18:03, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

[ please see related discussion at => "Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive309#Quality rating" ]
- added by Drbogdan (talk) 00:12, 24 May 2019 (UTC) [reply]

Hi. I earlier came across an article you created and then you subsequently gave a quality rating of "B". It was, on review and according to that project's quality scale, a Start class article, perhaps a very generous C. It is unusual to see articles rated by their creator or largest contributor, so I was intrigued by your user page list of "My created Articles". I was dismayed to see that you have rated all of your own articles as B class, without regard for the criteria. Would you agree that this is most unusual, and that you have circumvented the peer review process..? Neil S. Walker (talk) 22:08, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Neil S Walker: Thank you for your comments - I had no idea at the time that there was such a process - or that the article creator could not grade created articles - I do now - thank you for letting me know this - I was wondering at the time why the articles did not seem to be graded by anyone - and thought the best way to get the process started was to grade the articles myself - and then be corrected with better rankings by someone more knowledgeable about the ranking system than I - I would not contest a responsible ranking of articles by someone who seemed to know the process - hope this explanation helps in some way - in any case - Thanks again for your comments - and for letting me know there is such a review process - and that there are those who are able to responsibly rank the articles - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 22:35, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Neil S Walker: FWIW - As I noted in the recent AN discussion => UPDATE: Decided to clear the "B" ratings I noted in my created articles - this seems to add "???" (instead of "B") to the rating - which may be a preferred ranking notification - until a better ranking is assigned by an editor more familiar with the associated WikiProject - hope this is *entirely* ok - please let me know if otherwise of course - in any case - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 13:39, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Cleared rankings?

Drbogdan, I can understand reassessing The Joy of Science, but why would you clear the rankings? RockMagnetist (DCO visiting scholar) (talk) 16:52, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@RockMagnetist: - Thank you for your comment - and question - the rankings were cleared only (hopefully) on the articles I created, and had added a class "B" grade - which I did in order to encourage an editor more knowledgeable than I to better rank the article - seems, according to a recent AN discussion (please see => "Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Quality rating" - and the previous post "User talk:Drbogdan#Peer review"), clearing the ranks completely might be the better way of encouraging a more knowledgeable editor to present a better ranking assessment - please understand - if I unintentionally cleared a completely ok ranking at the "The Joy of Science" article, please feel free to restore the ranking of course - hope this helps - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 17:19, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I was just curious. The truth is, I don't think that rankings below GA matter much, and I never hesitate to classify articles I work on. Occasionally, people greatly overestimate the quality, but that's easy to fix. RockMagnetist(talk) 19:33, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tabby's Star dimming data - consolidated plot

Consolidated plot of KIC 8462852 dip maxima, 4256x836 pixels

Dear Dennis, I got tired of waiting for someone to create a consolidated plot of the data from Tabby's Star, so I created one myself based on the original Boyajian et al and Sacco et al papers, and have uploaded to Wikimedia Commons in two sizes:

At this resolution, it's of course impossible to meaningful depict every little dip, so I've chosen to focus on the dips of greater than or equal to 1% -- and also, of course, this is normalized data -- but I think a very clear picture is painted of what might be coming in the future. Shall we add to the main page in addition to, or possibly in place of, your existing consolidated plot? And if you yourself wanted to do so, go right ahead -- I'm not that familiar with Wikipedia image placement.Synchronist (talk) 05:02, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Synchronist: Thank you very much for your comments - and efforts with the consolidated plot of dimming data re Tabby's star - Excellent work imo - yes - added your plot to the "gallery section" of the main article (in place of my own earlier "Very Rough Draft" plot) (see related discussion at => "Talk:KIC 8462852#The Big Picture") - hope this is ok - please understand that further improvements to the plot/caption and all are welcome of course - in any case - Thanks again for your comments and plots - and - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 11:53, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Dennis, it looks good, doesn't it?!? And what a great title you came up with: "all known dimmings", and of course with the implication that we are talking about major dimmings, and also dimmings to date. Thank you so much, Dennis!!!Synchronist (talk) 16:29, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tabby's Star Consolidated Plot (cont.)

Dear Dennis: User "Incnis Mrsi" has added a .png version of the consolidated plot to Wikimedia Commons alongside my original .jpg version, and has then gone on to insert this .png version in place of the .jpg version on the Wikipedia "KIC 8462852" page.

This would be OK, I suppose, given that some people may think that .png is a superior archival format (although I am of course always careful to specify lossless .jpg); however, there has also been a curious and unfortunate side effect: the .png looks OK in one's browser, but if you try to download it, you end up with a vastly abbreviated 27K file!?!

Going beyond the question of how this might be possible from a technical standpoint, what should we do? Revert the edit? Or should I add my own .png version of the consolidated plot to Wikimedia Commons, and re-replace on the "Tabby's Star" page? And in asking this question, I'm sure you realize that I regard this -- as I am sure you do as well -- as a quite informative archival image.Synchronist (talk) 19:46, 29 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Synchronist, Incnis Mrsi, and Huntster: Thank you for your latest comments - yes - your "original JPG plot" is *Excellent* ("Bruce L. Gary", a "Tabby's Star" expert, also agrees in a private email to me recently) - also yes - I see the possible problem - but not sure at the moment how best to sort things out - maybe posting a comment to "User talk:Incnis Mrsi" (or "User talk:Huntster", who may be more knowledgeable than I about this) might be a good start? - also perhaps - redoing the plot in PNG yourself might also be helpful I would think - in any case - hope my comments here help in some way - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 21:02, 29 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Synchronist, there's no problem having a jpg and png version exist side by side on Commons. However, as far as I can tell, there's nothing technically wrong with the PNG except that it has a transparent background. It is certainly a more reasonable file size than the lossless JPEG. Incnis Mrsi, would you mind re-uploading the file with a simple white background? The transparency rather seriously impedes its usefulness. Huntster (t @ c) 23:09, 29 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) PNG is not “a superior archival format” – seemingly somebody here conflates it with TIFF. But it is, in fact, the only raster format supported by Wikimedia which is appropriate for pictures consisting of colorful lines, especially over bright background. JPEG is severely ill-advised for such images due to at least three reasons; read more at project:Preparing images for upload here and on Commons. Surely this is SVG which is really “superior” than raster stuff, but not all users are handy with SVG whereas just choosing [PNG] instead of the default [JPEG] in a drop-down menu (on saving the drawing) is an option accessible for everybody having IQ about 100. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 04:57, 30 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, everyone -- all's well that ends well.Synchronist (talk) 07:54, 30 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. Dennis, if you wanted to email me (Glenn Smith) at gsmith@space-machines.com, there's some additional background info I could share about the consolidated plot.Synchronist (talk) 00:13, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]