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I recall that in the early to mid 90’s there were a handful of “hackers” in the USA who were convicted of various hacker related crimes. Odd penalties were applied to these people, I recall one of them was ordered to not be allowed in the same room with any computer type device more powerful than a standard calculator. Where are they now? In the modern world it would not be possible for these people to function in the world without solitary confinement. Were these convictions overturned, or the punishments withdrawn? Or was this an urban myth or false memory? Thanks. Anton [[Special:Contributions/81.131.40.58|81.131.40.58]] ([[User talk:81.131.40.58|talk]]) 11:56, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
I recall that in the early to mid 90’s there were a handful of “hackers” in the USA who were convicted of various hacker related crimes. Odd penalties were applied to these people, I recall one of them was ordered to not be allowed in the same room with any computer type device more powerful than a standard calculator. Where are they now? In the modern world it would not be possible for these people to function in the world without solitary confinement. Were these convictions overturned, or the punishments withdrawn? Or was this an urban myth or false memory? Thanks. Anton [[Special:Contributions/81.131.40.58|81.131.40.58]] ([[User talk:81.131.40.58|talk]]) 11:56, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

== Japanese Aristocracy ==

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7842305/Japans-royal-family-beam-laugh-pose-New-Years-family-portrait.html

In this picture, what are they doing, what are they looking at, is the green object an ashtray?! Western Monarchies would usually have themselves pictured in a more formal posture. Thanks. Anton [[Special:Contributions/81.131.40.58|81.131.40.58]] ([[User talk:81.131.40.58|talk]]) 12:04, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

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December 27

Maps of Indonesian sultanates, kingdoms, and other princely states?

Like the Indian subcontinent before decolonization and Africa, Indonesia used to consist of a collection of diverse states ruled by hereditary monarchs of various titles and most of them were able to maintain their existence even during the Dutch East Indies with the notable exception of Aceh. Many of the ones in Sumatra and Borneo were Malay sultanates in the same category of those in modern Malaysia. Even today, these traditional princely states have been receiving more official and media recognition compared to the pretenders in India or Pakistan according to the info in the article List of current constituent Asian monarchs.

Does anyone have or could anyone find any comprehensive and credible map of Indonesian princely states from Sumatra to West Papua, besides those of Yogyakarta and Surakarta?

The only ones I found are:

The first one is not even close to comprehensive while the second one is too small and blurry since it is a preview of the real map for sale by Euratlas for around $40. I would appreciate any assistance. Thank you 70.95.44.93 (talk) 05:11, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried Category:Maps of Indonesia? Alansplodge (talk) 13:02, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
There is a map called "Early Sultanates" at Indonesia: Peoples and Histories by Jean Gelman Taylor (p. 61). Alansplodge (talk) 13:06, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Best online collection of pre-colonial maps of Indonesia I could find are the ones at http://maps.library.leiden.edu/apps/s7 (searching on specific islands gives pretty good results), but even that didn't look like it really had what you are looking for. Good luck. Kmusser (talk) 21:56, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tahitiens: répertoire biographique de la Polynésie française

I am trying to understand these two French books. There was a 1962 edition and a 1975 edition. When I used to be in college, I could only get the 1962 edition through a loan, but I have forgotten the content except for a section about Pōmare III. I know the pages are different across each editions. For example, the Pomare III section is on pages 366–367 on pages 447-448 of the 1975 edition. My question is what is the difference in the two editions. Also some Google Book entries excludes Raoul Teissier and I remember not seeing Teissier's name on the 1962 edition when I borrowed it years ago (although I may be mis-remembering this). So what was the extent of Teissier's contribution?

First edition

  • O'Reilly, Patrick; Teissier, Raoul (1962). Tahitiens: répertoire bio-bibliographique de la Polynésie française. Paris: Musée de l'homme. OCLC 1001078211.
  • O'Reilly, Patrick (1962). Tahitiens; Repertoire Bio-Bibliographique De La Polynesie Francaise (Par) Patrick O'Reilly & Raoul Teissier. Ports. De Jean Lebedeff, Illus. De Jacques Boullaire. Paris: Musée de l'homme. OCLC 3234999.
  • Publications de la Société des océanistes. Paris: Société des océanistes. 1962. OCLC 1765794.

Second edition

If you have access to any of these copies, I am also requesting it on Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request#Tahitiens: répertoire biographique de la Polynésie française. Thanks, KAVEBEAR (talk) 05:15, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Eugène Hänni

Trying to find other sources with more specifics of Eugène Hänni who was in Leeward Islands from 1895 to 1896 (according to this [1]). I would like to know more details and also possibly exact dates of his presence and if he visited Tahit as well. KAVEBEAR (talk) 20:48, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This guy? Hänni, Eugène (1908). Trois ans chez les Canaques.. page 71 looks to be his arrival in Papeete.—eric 21:00, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Also Hänni, E.; Kaehr, R. (2015). Tahiti, Rurutu, îles Sous-le-Vent 1894 - 1896: Odyssée d'un Suisse en Polynésie. review and some bio.—eric 21:25, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"Eugène Hänni 1870-1908 is a Swiss merchant who travelled to Oceania and spent several months in the Leeward Islands in 1895-1896, visiting the "reigning families" there. Hanni ruminates on plans for philatelic speculation and dreams of seeing these "governments" issue stamps from which he would benefit. He is Swiss, so we don't have to be surprised to see him in contact with Itchner, who has this nationality; he is a merchant, so we find it natural that he is thinking about making some money by publishing postcards at a time when postcard fashion has already got off to a good start in Germanic countries. We find "E. HANNI, publisher" on postcards depicting scenes of indigenous life, and groups of royal families, at RAI ATE A, BORABORA, MOOREA and TAHITI". Bulletin de la Société des études océaniennes, Issues 174-185 (1971) p. 112. The full text in French is here. Alansplodge (talk) 21:42, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
And before you ask, "Albert Edouard Itchner. a Swiss of that name, who died in Papeete on 29 December 1939, lived in Huahine at the end of the last century. He married there around 1896 or 1897 and had seven children, the last of whom is honorably known in Papeete. Albert Edouard Itchner owned a shop in Faré, at the northern end of Huahine. We have a datable image of them, thanks to his postcards, since it was taken "after a cyclone", more than likely that of 1906 which left traces in local history. The chroniclers of the time tell us that on February 7 of 1906, 'a huge blade (?) entered the village carrying the copra shops of the residents Marcantoni and Itchner'" (ibid p. 106) Alansplodge (talk) 21:42, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Les Sorciers du bout du monde by Fanch Guillemin (pp. 296-297) suggests that Hänni was part of a tour of the Leeward Islands made by général de la République Isidore Chessé accompanied by Paul Gauguin and Hinoï Pōmare, in 1894. Alansplodge (talk) 21:59, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Any explanation for Trois ans chez les Canaques? I only see one reference to New Caledonia.—eric 21:56, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Les Tahitiens ne sont pas des Canaques. Les appeler Canaques est la plus grande injure que vous puissiez leur faire. Nous nous rappe lons l'indignation avec laquelle de tout petits gamins répon daient à des soldats français : « Nous ne sommes pas des Cana ques. » — - Les Canaques sont les habitants de la Nouvelle Calédonie que les Polynésiens, à tort ou à raison, considèrent comme un peuple inférieur. Mais ce qu'il y a de piquant, c'est que le mot Canaque vient du mot polynésien Tangata (pro noncé à Tahiti taata), qui signifie « Homme ». Les Tahitiens ne devraient donc pas être froissés d'être appelés des « Hom mes i, et cependant ils le sont d'être appelés Canaques.

review by Paul Huguenin Bulletin de la Société neuchâteloise de géographieeric 22:11, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
But see also Kanaka (Pacific Island worker) which suggests a wider definition. Alansplodge (talk) 22:19, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Isidore Chessé

Thanks for all the sources to pick through. It is confounding to even see that little to nothing is even written about the European side of the story. Hopefully, I can get a feature article quality article out of this with Annexation of the Leeward Islands. Sectioning this off from above. Mainly stemming from User:Alansplodge’s comments about Chessé‘s expedition in Les Sorciers du bout du monde. Can we find more sources and context of Chessé‘s expeditions in the 1880s and in the 1890s (more important the latter)? I know Chessé was responsible for king Pomare V’s abdication and convincing King Tahitoe and his government to allow a provisional protectorate in 1880 over Raiatea. He was a commsiona general of the Republic according to List of colonial and departmental heads of French Polynesia for the two years it took for him to set up the provisional protectorate at Raiatea in 1880 and for a governor to be set up. What happened to him in the intervening years? The 1894 date confuses me since I’ve seen sources that Gauguin witness the rebellion of Teraupo’o in 1895 or that Chessé was instrumental in the abdication of Queen Tehaapapa III of Huahine in 1895. Wondering also if he had anything to do with Queen Teriimaevarua III’s abdication in the the following week on Bora Bora? KAVEBEAR (talk) 22:35, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to see more of the European side of the story, i am slogging through Caillot, A.C. Eugène [in French] (1909). "CHRONIQUE DE LA GUERRE DE RAIATEA-TAHAA". Les Polynésiens orientaux au contact de la civilisation. {{cite book}}: External link in |chapterurl= (help); Unknown parameter |chapterurl= ignored (|chapter-url= suggested) (help) with lot's of references to Chessé. Caillot's introduction you could say has a French perspective.—eric 23:23, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Was the photographer Jules Agostini also part of this expedition? KAVEBEAR (talk) 01:14, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • An obituary says he remained as administrator in Tahiti until 1883 when he was appointed governor of Guyana, and retired in 1887. (this gives September 27 and 30 for Huahine and Bora Bora)."M. Chessé". Bulletin mensuel - Comité de l'Océanie française. No. 19. January 1913..
  • He arrived in Uturoa October 17, 1895 and once again had the title of Commissioner General of the Republic.(Caillot)
  • Chessé arrived Papeete August 5, 1895. September 17 and 21 for Huahine and Bora Bora. He returned to Papeete December 25, and left for France January 5, 1896. "Les Iles Sous-le-Vent". Bulletin mensuel - Comité de l'Océanie française. No. 22. April 1913..
  • Hänni imples the abdication in Bora Bora was due to payments arranged by Chessé (Hänni) I'm pretty sure his mandate covered negotiations in all the Leeward Islands, but not the use of force.
  • I think Hänni was on Huahine when Chessé arrived in Papeete, but those letters get confusing. Gauguin arrived in Tahiti September 1895 according to the article.
  • fr:Charles Morice in notes to Gauguin's Noa Noa claims[2] Chessé spent a hundred thousand francs in various presents and negotiations
  • Askedonty pointed to Voyages autour du monde in an earlier question, can't figure out the volume to find an OCR'd version.
  • Now I am questioning if Eugène Hänni was the photographer or just some sort of publisher/editor of the postcards since the above source attributes some photographs to Agostini. I’m assuming they were both on the expedition. KAVEBEAR (talk) 18:21, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

December 28

Largest Imperial Chinese harem

According to Imperial Chinese harem system, "The Kangxi Emperor holds the record for having the most consorts with 79" and "No limits were set for these consorts. This later created situations when more than 20,000 women were living in the palace during the reigns of Emperor Huan and Emperor Ling." Which Chinese emperors had a larger harem than Kangxi with an official list of concubines exceeding 79? I don't think Emperor Huan or Ling of Han had official list for all their concubines. 47.39.38.154 (talk) 05:42, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Inner Palace of the Forbidden City

Similar question to the above, how many concubines lived in the Forbidden City at the apex of the Kangxi Emperor largest harem since not all 79 would have been wedded to the emperor at the same time? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.39.38.154 (talk) 05:50, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Is the FIFA Women's World Cup included in the four-year ban?

I'm well-aware the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) banned Russia from all world sports competitions for four years. That includes the 2020 Summer Olympics, the 2022 Winter Olympics and the 2022 FIFA World Cup. Does that also include the 2023 FIFA Women's World Cup, as well?2604:2000:1281:4B3:A9CA:F0E3:EBF:5092 (talk) 23:13, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Probably as the text says "any World Championships organized or sanctioned by any Signatory", I have not checked but it is unlikely that FIFA are not signed up to the WADA. MilborneOne (talk) 23:35, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yes it does include it, see [3] Nil Einne (talk) 09:01, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much.2604:2000:1281:4B3:11F0:3DBA:D150:84EB (talk) 01:01, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

December 29

History of 21st century

Is there a way of determining the 21st century 2000s 2010s will become history of 21st century. At the bottom of 1990s 1980s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980s and further back it has history of 20th century at the bottom of articles. Is it hard or easy or possible or impossible to determine when 2000s and 2010s will have history of 21st century written at bottom of articles like the ones of 20th century for 1990s, 1980s and backward? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:7427:6B00:1956:EEAD:8C2D:5B29 (talk) 03:28, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I assume that you mean the navbox, Template:20th century. The 21st century is certainly eligible to have a navbox, if an interested editor (even you!) wishes to create one. That being said, it will be smaller and sparser because we are only 1/5th of the way through the 21st century, so 5 times as much stuff happened in the 20th to cover with a navbox. But as for being able to determine when it will happen, it will happen as soon as an editor volunteers and gets it done. Elizium23 (talk) 03:39, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes the navbox. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:7427:6B00:1956:EEAD:8C2D:5B29 (talk) 04:03, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

To create it, you would either need to create an account, or ask at the article creation request page, whatever it's called. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots12:20, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Also, there are articles for 2000s (decade) and 2010s. Presumably you want something called 2000s (century)Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots12:23, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
There is a Template:21st_century, it was created on 14th May 2019. LongHairedFop (talk) 16:11, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Looking for Shackleton family tree

Headstone of Gladys May Shackleton and Charles Edmond Shackleton

Does anyone know how to find information on the relatives of Ernest Shackleton? Specifically I am looking for how these two, presumably a married couple (Charles Edmond and Gladys May) fit into his family tree. They are buried in the village where I grew up, and friends of my parents said that they were related to the famous explorer. I will delete the image some time on since it is unlikely to be of encyclopedic importance. There's a Gladys M Shackleton here but it seems to be a different person since she died in 1962. The Wikitree site has no children for Ernest's brother Francis. — PhilHibbs | talk 17:25, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This family genealogy page appears to show Gladys May as a beneficiary of a will in 1945, where Charles Edmond is shown as Reverend. I couldn't find anything else. Mikenorton (talk) 19:04, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Have you explored Findagrave?[4]Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots21:44, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
On 26 August 1907 when Charles Edmond Shackleton (9 Jan 1882-1967) married Gladys May Grape (10 Feb 1876-1956) they said his father was "Dr. Edmond Shackleton". MilborneOne (talk) 21:51, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Charles Edmond Shackleton was born in "Tandragce Armagh" so he was Irish (Gladys was born in Plymouth). MilborneOne (talk) 22:00, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"Tandragce" is presumably a transcription error for Tandragee. In 1881 Edmond Shackleton was listed as a surgeon or apothecary on Market Street, Tandragee. Slater's Directory. DuncanHill (talk) 14:04, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Edmond Shackleton appears not to be directly related to Sir Ernest, whose father was Henry Shackleton of Kildare, grandfather was Ebenezer Shackleton (1784-1856) of Ballytore, and great-grandfather was Abraham Shackleton (1752-1818) also of Ballytore. As far as I can see, there is nobody called Edmond amongst their offspring, or their offspring's offspring. Alansplodge (talk) 11:44, 1 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Frigg's spinning wheel in the Eddas

Are there any specific references of Frigg's spinning wheel in the Poetic or Prose Edda?

--89.210.145.239 (talk) 19:58, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not an answer, but note: the spinning wheel is an oriental invention, not known in Europe until the high Middle Ages. The item norsemen would have known and used (just like Sleeping Beauty) is this one (see also hand spinning). Cheers  hugarheimur 14:24, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

December 31

French administrator of Uturoa

I need a list of the first few French administrator of Uturoa on Raiatea from the inception of the post in the 1880s to 1900. They would have been referred to as Residents and have been subordinated to the List of colonial and departmental heads of French Polynesia. User:EricR, are any administrator mentioned in the sources you've dug through? I am going to ask fr:Wikipédia:Oracle/semaine 1 2020 as well. KAVEBEAR (talk) 06:34, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at Annuaire des Êtablissements français de l'Oceanie for 1891-1904 there is in each a report "ILES SOUS-LE-VENT" in each. To 1897 by orders of 17,19 and 20 March 1888 with residents. From 1898 through 1904 by orders of 27 June, 28 July and September 1897 an Administrator. Each has lists of successive appointments.
This is for the résident(s), and later Administrator of the Leeward Islands (with it's administrative center at Uturoa) which is i think what you meant. The Leeward Islands were Établissement secondaire distinct and till 1897 L’autorité y est exercée par un ou plusieurs résidents by order of the Governor. After 1897 Cet établissement est placé sous la haute autorité du Gomerneur de Tahiti, qui y exerce les pouvoirs qui lui sont dévolus par l’inter— médiaire des Chefs d’Adminislration et de service de la colonie et par celui de l'Administrateur de l’archipel.
The lists are pretty confusing for me, and someone who can actually understand French should take a look. For instance: the first two naval officers are not listed under Ont été nommés successivement résidents before 1897, but are in later years. 1904 has M. Cadousteau, Jean Marie 1 September 1892 to 10 March 1893 a rempli par intérim les fonctions d'Administrateur, but not in the 1897 list. There are vice-résidents listed also. The 20 March 1888 order has L’autorité y est exercée par un ou plusieurs Résidents dans les con ditions determinées par la législation en vigueur dans les autres Etablissements but then goes on to describe the powers of a single résident.
My reading is that Alby was the highest ranking colonial administrator and resident (probably de facto Administrator) from 17 september 1888 (excepting Cadousteau interm), until 25 December 1897 when Flémeing was appointed Administrator. Someone who understands French colonial administration could probably help.—eric 15:34, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Atlantic slave ship travel time

In Atlantic slave trade, in the 18th and 19th centuries, when a slave ship took slaves from Africa to America in the Middle Passage of the Triangular trade, how many days long did the trip usually take? I skimmed the linked articles but didn't seem to find data about this.

After some particularly bad trips on a low-cost airline, I feel that the drawings of slaves packed on ships with sardines would be more meaningful if they were presented together with such information.

b_jonas 10:10, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The BBC had a show about it. It was 1-3 months. A writeup is here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/specials/1624_story_of_africa/page53.shtml
I expect you will have difficulty finding similar information in American media because it doesn't fit with the American narrative of slavery. 135.84.167.41 (talk) 13:40, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That last sentence is an odd comment. In which way doesn't the actual duration fit? Does the American narrative describe the transit as being less than 1 month? Or more that 3 month? --Lgriot (talk) 13:52, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I have not done an exhaustive search of American media and I am no expert on the topic. The BBC program states that only 5% of slaves were delivered to North America. Most were sent to South America (a 1-month trip) or the islands (a 2-3 month trip). My daughter's history book and the African American museum in Washington DC both imply that nearly all slaves were delivered to Georgia and South Carolina, which would take longer than 3 months. So, with that narrative, you get a longer trip. 135.84.167.41 (talk) 14:06, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The Last American Slave Ship describes a large sailing yacht converted to a slaver, Wanderer, which left the Congo at the beginning of September 1858 and arrived at an island off the coast of Georgia at the end of November. Our article doesn't give precise details, but says that it was a "six-week voyage". Note that this vessel was designed for racing and much faster than the conventional cargo ships used at the height of the trade which was banned by the USA in 1807. Also, sailing ships were entirely at the mercy of the elements, so contrary winds or no wind at all could extend a two-month journey to a year or more. Alansplodge (talk) 16:32, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the replies so far. – b_jonas 11:01, 1 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dublin, Basilisk, Cormorant, Thalia, Salamander, Carysfort, Talbot, Modeste, Collingwood

Someone with good knowledge of British naval history. Who were the captains and second-in-commands of these ships from 1842 to 1847 (around when they were in the Society Islands)? Presumably they are the same person. The ships were: Dublin, 1843; Basilisk, Cormorant, Thalia, Salamander, Carysfort, 1844; Talbot, Modeste, Collingwood 1845.KAVEBEAR (talk) 22:02, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

HMS Dublin was commanded by John Jervis Tucker R.N. 1841-1845, when she was the flagship of Rear-Admiral Richard Darton Thomas.
HMS Basilisk was commanded by Henry Samuel Hunt R.N. from 26 November 1841 to 1845 when she was in the Pacific.
HMS Cormorant, Frederick Beauchamp Paget Seymour R.N. (Beauchamp Seymour, 1st Baron Alcester), 5 June 1847 - 13 December 1847.
HMS Thalia; Charles Hope R.N., 28 August 1841 - 1845 (he was part of a large family of Scottish politicians, admirals, generals and judges, some of whom we have articles on).
HMS Salamander; Andrew Snape Hamond R.N. 24 June 1842 - ? (the son of Sir Graham Hamond, 2nd Baronet). Alansplodge (talk) 11:29, 1 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
HMS Carysfort; George Paulet R.N. 28 December 1841- June 1845 (the son of Charles Paulet, 13th Marquess of Winchester)
HMS Talbot; Thomas Raikes Trigge Thompson R.N. (see also this) 20 April 1842 - 26 March 1847 (the son of Sir Thomas Thompson, 1st Baronet)
HMS Modeste; Thomas Baillie R.N. 5 June 1843- 1845 (recalled "to study steam") and Thomas Vernon Watkins R.N. 27 December 1845 - 1847.
HMS Collingwood; Robert Smart R.N. (see also Robert Smart) 13 August 1844 - 20 July 1848, when she was the flagship of Rear-Admiral George Francis Seymour R.N. (George Seymour (Royal Navy officer)).
Alansplodge (talk) 11:29, 1 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

January 1

Nuclear disarmament plan by USA and USSR in 1945/1946?

Hello, I'm having a lot of trouble finding any information on the development of nuclear disarmament plan proposed by the USA right after the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I have (grade 12) assignment on answering the question "why didn't the USA follow through on a disarmament plan" and the source reading (I do online school) links to this: http://www.historyguide.org/europe/lecture14.html where it gets that information from. But, I have not been able to find other sources on this supposed plan, and I am having difficulty forming an opinion on the topic when all I know about it comes from one source, and one paragraph. It's the twelfth paragraph, and the gist of it is: "the United States developed a disarmament plan based on turning over all fissionable materials, plants and bombs to an international regulatory agency. The Soviets responded quickly with their own plan which stipulated nothing less than a total ban on the production of all fissionable material." TLDR: Was there a proposal right after the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki by the Americans proposing that an independent international body took possession of all fissionable materials, and was there also a counter proposal by the Soviets declaring that all fissionable materials should be destroyed and existing bombs be destroyed? Thank you. --Navvvrisk (talk) 00:20, 1 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

See Baruch Plan, paying particular attention to the last sentence of the article. Will search for something better.—eric 01:23, 1 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You can follow the links in the footnotes in that article to some google books previews. James Carroll's House of War you can borrow from Archive. I see Melvyn Leffler mentioned but not A Preponderance of Power.—eric 01:42, 1 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You can also borrow from Archive Bundy, M. G. (1990). Danger and survival: Choices about the bomb in the first fifty years. and Herken, G. (1980). The winning weapon: The atomic bomb in the cold war, 1945-1950.eric 02:11, 1 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Some online sources -
Also some Google Books previews:
Happy reading! Alansplodge (talk) 12:20, 1 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Northern delivery in Canada and the USA?

Is there an analogue of this https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B7 in Canada and the USA, and if so, on what scale and what sources are there? I want to supplement the article with the experience of Canada and the USA. --Vyacheslav84 (talk) 09:47, 1 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Translation of the linked Russian Wikipedia article is here).
The only thing I could find is Why people in Canada’s remote Arctic capital are obsessed with Amazon Prime. Alansplodge (talk) 12:00, 1 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
In Canada, there was the Northern Air Stage Program, created by Canada Post and subsidized by the federal government, that ensured lower freight rates for delivery of healthy food supplies to Arctic communities. Can't find much online at a quick glance, except for this article [5], but I'm sure there's more information out there as it was intermittently talked about in the news until at least the end of the 1990s. Xuxl (talk) 14:17, 1 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

January 2

Valentino Riroroko Tuki

Can anyone help find reliable sources for the death of Valentino Riroroko Tuki? Kbabej stated: I can't find any RS reporting on Tuki's death. I have found a facebook page purportedly by "S.M. Ariki-Rey Valentino Riroroko Tuki" that has a picture of Tuki with the (translated) caption "With great regret this page communicates the death of S.M. Don Valentino riroroko tuki 88th ariki of rapa - nui, belonging to the royal house of miru". Any thoughts?... I am also curious. KAVEBEAR (talk) 03:07, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

January 3

Copyrights

As I understand it, copyright protection for items older than 95 years have become public domain on January 1, a practice which will continue every January 1 for some decades to come. My question is, what does that do to Wikipedia's restrictions on photos made during 1924. Previously, 1923 was the cutoff. Is there a page where this is being discussed? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots09:39, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hackers

I recall that in the early to mid 90’s there were a handful of “hackers” in the USA who were convicted of various hacker related crimes. Odd penalties were applied to these people, I recall one of them was ordered to not be allowed in the same room with any computer type device more powerful than a standard calculator. Where are they now? In the modern world it would not be possible for these people to function in the world without solitary confinement. Were these convictions overturned, or the punishments withdrawn? Or was this an urban myth or false memory? Thanks. Anton 81.131.40.58 (talk) 11:56, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Japanese Aristocracy

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7842305/Japans-royal-family-beam-laugh-pose-New-Years-family-portrait.html

In this picture, what are they doing, what are they looking at, is the green object an ashtray?! Western Monarchies would usually have themselves pictured in a more formal posture. Thanks. Anton 81.131.40.58 (talk) 12:04, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]