User talk:EvergreenFir

Sex differences in human physiology

Sorry, I must have edit conflicted with you on the undo on this article. Feel free to remove my warning to the user if you wish. Meters (talk) 06:23, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Nikola Karev is Macedonian

When I edited the page I added link to the source. Not sure why Jingiby and Flix11 were undoing the changes even though I provided evidence of the source. "Cryptic Canadian" was OK with my edit after providing the evidence. Please make the changes and protect the page. Bellow are links to images from a Greek news paper interview (Akropolis, br.7608, Biblioteka – Star Parlament 8 мај 1903) with Nikola Karev, where he is stating that he is Macedonian.

• File:Https://mk.wikibooks.org/wiki/Никола Карев — интервју за грчкиот весник „Акрополис“, 8 мај 1903 г.
• File:Https://mk.wikibooks.org/wiki/Никола Карев — интервју за грчкиот весник „Акрополис“, 8 мај 1903 г.

Fair is fair

It's only fair to say that I was wrong about your RfA. You're doing a great job as an admin. I'm sorry I didn't support. TY for all you do. — Ched (talk) 16:09, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

@Ched: Thank you for the kind words! I greatly appreciate it. :) EvergreenFir (talk) 18:32, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Re: 120.29.67.231

Hi, I would like to request if the block for this anon vandal can also be extended to his user talk page. The vandal continues to post inappropriate edits to his talk page as seen here, here and here. Thanks. -WayKurat (talk) 06:39, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry

Could you check if Iliaa10, who recently made a disruptive edit to Albanian Armed Forces, is a sockpuppet of the user that also made disruptive edits to Kosovo Security Force and List of equipment of the Albanian Armed Forces. If yes, would you consider applying protection to Albanian Armed Forces until the vandalism subsides? Thanks. Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 15:21, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you...

...for your comments at this thread. I realise it's all academic now, but since you asked me a question directly: I am on the RAC of the Vegan Society. This means that I provide advice to the Vegan Society on academic/research matters; in practice, this means I'm sometimes asked to do peer reviews, contribute short pieces for the society's website, and speak at events. I have never been paid by the Vegan Society, or received any kind of funding (directly or indirectly) from them. You mentioned in the thread that I should use a COI template on my userpage. I'm not really sure what that means, but I have added a note about this issue. Josh Milburn (talk) 07:29, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

@J Milburn: Thanks for the reply! I appreciate the clarification on the Vegan Society thing. As for the COI template, I have one at User:EvergreenFir#COI_declarations, for example. But that statement you posted looks fine as well. Just use caution when editing on topics you are close to. EvergreenFir (talk) 17:22, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Yes, thanks - I try to, and, generally (e.g., at FAC), other editors have been very supportive. This is the first time I've run into problem a problem like this. Hoping it will be the last! Josh Milburn (talk) 17:30, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

April 2020

Please cease your opposition of the Cabal. If you continue to oppose the Cabal, as you did at WP:AN, you may be eliminated from existence as punishment for your thoughtcrime. 

Spectrum {{UV}} 2604:2000:8FC0:4:68BA:3B32:8613:8B6D (talk) 03:22, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

 Not done Everyone knows there is no cabal. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 03:28, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Was my first April fools on wikipedia and a flop anyway. Oh well. Back to GS/COVID enforcement.  EvergreenFir (talk) 04:57, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

No worries, I thought it was OK as these things go, so don't be too discouraged. Now more than ever I think an escape from the events of the day is needed. Spectrum {{UV}} 2604:2000:8FC0:4:68BA:3B32:8613:8B6D (talk) 05:03, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard

My apologies. I accidentally undid you there. Ignore the autonotice., already undone.. Meters (talk) 04:49, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

I was just going to see what it was you had posted to start this, and I blew it. I so don't want to get pulled into April Fools arguments ,on either side. Meters (talk) 04:56, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

@Meters: no worries. Was my first attempt anyway. EvergreenFir (talk) 04:59, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

I do not regret removing your joke post but I also have no interest in arguing about the matter. You are a great editor. Let's move on. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:44, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

@Cullen328: sounds good. Thank you for the post. :) EvergreenFir (talk) 05:45, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

• Don't let the old fuddy duddies keep you down. The world could use more fun and happiness, not less. Thank you. PackMecEng (talk) 17:57, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Some stroopwafels for you!

Hello EF, I woke up this morning with the thought that it is hard to know how the stresses of these times are affecting our fellow editors. I apologize if my posts at AN added to yours. I agree with the message above that you are an excellent editor. Best regards MarnetteD|Talk 16:17, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

@MarnetteD: Thank you and likewise. I know everyone's stressed and I realized my temporarily hurt feelings weren't what matters in this situation. And, unfortunately, the warnings about COVID-related April Fools was prescient and warranted. I appreciate the stroopwafels! EvergreenFir (talk) 20:10, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. My sweet tooth was acting up so one of the stroopwafels (unpictured) has a bite taken out of it :-D MarnetteD|Talk 20:13, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

I’ve been on the fringe of some April Fool’s tomfoolery myself... read and be entertained. Ah, we were so young and innocent four years ago... this led to this, memorialized here. Montanabw^(talk) 00:00, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

An observation re Gaza war

Now that the ANI seems done with, I wanted to make some comments:

More specifically, the first intervention you made whereby you redacted a comment I made here, I assume based on the theory that it was a personal attack. This comment was made immediately in response to an edit that also included a personal attack but you chose not to redact that. While I am sure it was not your intention, in practice, your intervention exacerbated the situation.

You then closed the "second RFC" that I created with the statement that it was about the same sentence as the first. That this is not the case is primae facie evident by examination of the questions. Had you also closed the first (non-neutral, ill-posed and of no value in resolving the questions or the tagging) and set a new one altogether then that would have been a helpful intervention.

Finally, your reversion of my edits following closure of the second RFC have no basis since they had nothing to do with the first RFC, a properly sourced edit should not be reverted in general and I fail to see how either edit could be described either as "pointy" or "inappropriate". To begin with, I was refraining from editing them into the article while the RFC (mine, not the first) was running and secondly I had already announced that I would be editing them in when it was closed, which is what I did.

I'm not going to do anything about it, I just wanted, now that the fuss has died down, to say these few things that I had refrained from mentioning while there was a live discussion at ANI and which I considered would only be a distraction had I raised them there.

Thanks for listening. Selfstudier (talk) 10:35, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Incorrect glyph

I am not sure why you reverted my edit on the Sardinia page. Can't you see that’s an incorrect glyph for the Greek letter phi (φ)? I just replaced it with the normal phi character. What was there before, and is back there now since you restored it, is a special phi glyph, not the normal Greek character. I mean, you’re an admin, which makes you all-powerful, so if it’s so important to you that a weird glyph be there, you can have it. But I’ve been a professional linguist all my life, and I’m in my seventies, so I think I know what I’m doing. Plus, I’ve made tens of thousands of valuable contributions to the Wikipedia over a good dozen years. Pasquale (talk) 20:43, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

And, by the way, there’s another problem with the Greek characters in the same Etymology section, which I won’t bother fixing now, given your propensity for reverting. The Greek name for the island, which occurs three times in that section, should have an acute accent over the ω. If you studied Classical Greek, then you would know that an acute accent over a final vowel automatically turns to grave before another word (as in: ἡ Σαρδὼ πάλαι). But, if the word occurs in isolation or before punctuation, the accent is acute, not grave. Pasquale (talk) 21:01, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

@Pasquale: Sorry about that! The revert was for some tomfoolery in the Climate section. I've restored your edit for (Αργυρόφλεψ). The revert was definitely not related to your edit; it was my mistake that I did not notice it when undoing the other editors' disruption. Please feel free to make the omega-related edit (I am quite unfamiliar with Greek other than a few of the glyphs). EvergreenFir (talk) 22:04, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Oops! I totally understand. Sorry for the lecturing tone. Pasquale (talk) 22:08, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

@Pasquale: No worries. I know it can be very frustrating, especially because Wikipedia just says "you were reverted" without details. Thank you for reaching out EvergreenFir (talk) 22:09, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Could you take a look at Yungeditor's recent edits relating to the Chinese government

Hello. During the Spanish Flu RFC, where many users were being tagged as single-purpose accounts, one of the users tagged was User:Yungeditor; this user, however, deleted several votes during that RFC without any explanation. I watch the user's talk page after the incident, and noticed that another user, Horse Eye Jack, reverted Yungeditor's recent edits on the Uyghurs page. I then looked at Yungeditor's other recent edits and saw that they very clearly appear to be biased in favor of the Chinese government: removal of a large section and well-sourced section of the Xi Jinping article, addition of largely-unsourced pro-Chinese-government rhetoric, removal of Wiki-links for Xinjiang re-education camps, etc. Many of the user's contributions are mis-labelled and mis-tagged as minor edits.

I have reverted those other edits which I deemed to be out-of-line, but I think that more action may be needed. I hope you can take a look at the situation. Thanks. BirdValiant (talk) 03:26, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

@BirdValiant: thank you for commenting. I've blocked the user as WP:NOTHERE. You can view the rationale on their user talk page. EvergreenFir (talk) 05:41, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

@EvergreenFir: Thanks for your extensive investigation. In hindsight, I probably should've compiled at least some of those diffs for you, instead of just making you do all the work. On the other hand, I guess it's good that you saw everything for yourself so that you could come to your own conclusion. Also, I didn't even bother to look at older edits, so thanks for taking the time to do that.

I should also probably add that I do not remember ever calling anyone an "infiltrator" of any kind. I also consider that the notion that I was "stalking" YungEditor is incorrect, because I had noticed a pattern of disruptive behavior which was also noticed by several other users; WP:HA#NOT

Anyway, thanks again for all your hard work. BirdValiant (talk) 06:30, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Stalking and monitoring by BirdValiant

I'm an American that has neutral views towards countries that America views as adversaries. I denounce any wild accusation that I may be a communist infiltrator. Second, many articles relating to China all have an Anti-Chinese political bias to it that are regarded as fact with citations from news articles without any verifiable proof. I'm amused that BirdValiant has taken an immense interest in stalking me and would like to have actions taken against me. As a user you have no right to prevent me from using this website or the right of others.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yungeditor (talk • contribs) 03:45, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

@Yungeditor: can't say I was expecting this type of tone. I've not looked into it yet, but has someone called you a communist infiltrator? Also, you are mistaken: editing is a privilege, not a right, and can be revoked through many methods. EvergreenFir (talk) 03:51, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Fringes edits by an "account on mission”

Hello, I got awareness of fringe edits by Hunan201p (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Hunan201p) promotion racist ideas of “blonde haired and blue eyed” warriors in East Asia. His used references do not support these claims and only mention unknown origin in the case of the Xianbei. More fringe are his edits on blonde (hair) or Genghis Khan (also see talkpage). I think many edits of Hunan violate WP:SCIRS and WP:WEIGHT. Additionally some things about him remember me on the long term vandal Tirgil34 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Tirgil34). I mean blonde or red haired turks are his main target, as seemingly Hunan. Anyway, someone should watch this user carefully. Best regards.38.121.43.208 (talk) 15:08, 9 April 2020 (UTC)