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:I've switched it to an area chart, which seems the best solution. While we do lose the raw numbers, there are all available in the template below the graphs. A shorter time period simply seems too complicated and would lose important datapoints. The template horizontal bar plot at the top, as far as I'm aware, is for the very specific tracking of cases, deaths, and recoveries, and isn't really an option here. If anyone has a better solution or alternative, I'd be open to hearing it. [[User:UmpireRay|UmpireRay]] ([[User talk:UmpireRay|talk]]) 21:18, 12 May 2020 (UTC) |
:I've switched it to an area chart, which seems the best solution. While we do lose the raw numbers, there are all available in the template below the graphs. A shorter time period simply seems too complicated and would lose important datapoints. The template horizontal bar plot at the top, as far as I'm aware, is for the very specific tracking of cases, deaths, and recoveries, and isn't really an option here. If anyone has a better solution or alternative, I'd be open to hearing it. [[User:UmpireRay|UmpireRay]] ([[User talk:UmpireRay|talk]]) 21:18, 12 May 2020 (UTC) |
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:: This looks good. Thanks. Another thing that would improve the charts is moving the colour legend closer to them. There are so many charts that they don't show up on my screen at the same time, so the colour legend also isn't on-screen making it unclear how to interpret the lines. Perhaps separating the charts into groups of three, each group with a legend? [[User:J S Lundeen|J S Lundeen]] ([[User talk:J S Lundeen|talk]]) 14:53, 13 May 2020 (UTC) |
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Nice New Charts
The new provincial logarithmic charts are nice!
It would be better to include links to provincial corona pages (e.g. the closures) rather than linking to the generic province pages.
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Chart states that Ontario has been under a stay-at-home order since March 24. No such order has been issued. Fully two weeks later, on April 6, Premier Ford stated that he did not want to make such an order (https://www.thestar.com/politics/provincial/2020/04/06/ford-reluctant-to-issue-mandatory-stay-home-order-but-warns-ontarians-they-could-be-fined.html). Please edit the chart accordingly.
edit: in fact, stay-at-home orders have not been issued in Nova Scotia or Quebec, either. I do not think any stay-at-home orders have been issued. The chart should be correct or these claims should be properly cited.
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Aasim 17:16, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
Response: under the stay-at-home column, it should be changed from 'yes' to 'no' for each jurisdiction. No such order has been made on a province or territory-wide basis. Note that the Chart does not source the claim that stay-at-home orders have been issued (as they haven't). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.50.19.149 (talk) 22:47, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 21 April 2020 Adding covidmapper (Mapping COVID-19 Data From the Past, Present, and Future (daily updated projections)) developed at University of Alberta to External links
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Add to External links link to tool COVIDmapper developed at University of Alberta. The unique value added are the daily updated projections for the future of this pandemic.
- COVIDmapper - Mapping COVID-19 Data From the Past, Present, and Future (daily updated projections) Liigandj (talk) 22:53, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
Daily table by province and territory missing
Could someone fix the page and reinstate the table that appeared first in the statistics section. The table listed the daily count of new cases, hosp, deaths, etc by province and territory. Charts are nice but some of us the hard data. Thank You.
Thanks to all of you working hard on a daily basis keep all of this up to date. 76.71.166.104 (talk) 11:37, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- The big table is still on the page, but it's collapsed and moved to the end of the "Statistics" section, just above "References". Jmdyck (talk) 13:49, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- All that is displayed the Statistics section are the:
- Progression Charts (which are out of date)
- Cases by Region chart and table
- Individual regions charts
- All that is displayed the Statistics section are the:
- Immediately following this is the references section. There is no "Show" table button . I tried attaching a screen capture to show you but the system will not let me upload it. Jcharest57 (talk) 19:52, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- Ya, the table is gone. This is the only reason to visit this page regularly. Jrarrmy (talk) 20:32, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- I'm looking at the page right now, and between the "By Regions" graphs and the "References" header, there's a Timeline of Cases of Regions [show] line, and if I click on "[show]", the big table appears. If that isn't what you see, I can't explain it. Jmdyck (talk) 03:39, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
- I'm also able to view the Timeline of Cases of Regions table; it's initially collapsed for me. IP editor and Jrarrmy, would you have happened to have disabled Javascript on Wikipedia? Otherwise try . —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:23, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
@Tenryuu Yes, I usually browse with scripts blocked, never caused an issue before that day, and it's working again now. The daily chart is back, above references. The cases per million by province is gone, even with shields down.
Thanks for your help. Jrarrmy (talk) 20:28, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
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Within the Timeline/January 2020 section, the second paragraph is incorrect and mis-states the facts from the referenced materials. The paragraph should be changed from:
On January 17, the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) implemented signage in the Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver airports to raise awareness of the virus, and had added a health screening question to the electronic kiosks for passengers arriving from central China. There are no direct flights from Wuhan to Canada.[24][25]
To:
On January 17, the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) indicated plans were in progress “to implement signage” in the Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver airports to raise awareness of the virus, and that there would be an additional health screening question added to the electronic kiosks for passengers arriving from central China. The agency noted the overall risk to Canadians was low and there were no direct flights from Wuhan to Canada. The CBSA said it would not be, at that time, implementing extra screening measures, but would “monitor the situation closely”.[24][25] Hillbillydave1972 (talk) 08:47, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
PIIS2589-7500(20)30086-8
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landig/article/PIIS2589-7500(20)30086-8/fulltext
Switcher
@UmpireRay: The most recent edit (diff) caused "Syntax error" in the "Total deaths by province and territory" graph. That's because you had to update two sets of the same information due to use of {{switcher}}. The complexity of doing that led to deletion of the |y1=0,0,0,...
line in the second {{GraphChart}}. Please fix that (I'd rather not do it because I have no idea what the numbers are). However, is switcher really desirable? There must only be a tiny number of logged-in users reading this article who would have the switcher gadget enabled? That's up to people maintaining this article but it seems unwarranted to me. Johnuniq (talk) 03:33, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for alerting me to this. As for the use of the switcher, I believe it's enabled by default, so most users should have it. It's also used in other COVID articles (see the Netherlands for example). UmpireRay (talk) 03:52, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
Nunavut has a case in Pond Inlet
Just from a few minutes ago, https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/nunavut-first-covid19-case-1.5509014. I have trouble with my mobile editing. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 14:15, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
Graphs in "Statistics" section are unclear
It is not clear why there are pairs of the same graphs (New cases per day, new deaths per day). There is nothing indicating the difference. Are the second versions created using some sort of smoothing? If so, why are both included?
Also, there are no labels for the graphs of each province. It isn't reasonable for viewers to understand that they are the same types of data as the national graphs above, now that the above graphs have multiplied. In the early days it was easier to make the connection, but at this point it has grown unwieldy.
Even at high res, the labels on the provincial graphs are unreadable now that the time series has grown so big. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.202.200.214 (talk) 03:44, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
The x-axis date labels on the bar plots are now overlapping and unreadable. This is a known bug: Template_talk:Graph:Chart#Crowding_of_x-axis_labels. Here are some potential solutions: A. Switch to a line plot, which means losing the numbers above the bars B. plot a shorter time period. This can make it difficult and confusing to update the data since you need to remove data at the same time as adding it. C. Switch to a different plot template, such as the horizontal bar plot at the beginning of the article. Thoughts? Preferences? J S Lundeen (talk) 17:15, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- I've switched it to an area chart, which seems the best solution. While we do lose the raw numbers, there are all available in the template below the graphs. A shorter time period simply seems too complicated and would lose important datapoints. The template horizontal bar plot at the top, as far as I'm aware, is for the very specific tracking of cases, deaths, and recoveries, and isn't really an option here. If anyone has a better solution or alternative, I'd be open to hearing it. UmpireRay (talk) 21:18, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- This looks good. Thanks. Another thing that would improve the charts is moving the colour legend closer to them. There are so many charts that they don't show up on my screen at the same time, so the colour legend also isn't on-screen making it unclear how to interpret the lines. Perhaps separating the charts into groups of three, each group with a legend? J S Lundeen (talk) 14:53, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
New Section: COVID-19 Testing
Since testing is frequently identified as one of the key things countries can do to combat the pandemic, I suggest this article should have a dedicated section on it. I have added one. Comments and suggestions are welcome. J S Lundeen (talk) 22:56, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
New name
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Since the name of the article on the pandemic in general has been changed to "COVID-19 pandemic," the name of this page and all the provincial ones should be changed to "COVID-19 pandemic in (insert jurisdiction)" YourAviationPro (talk) 01:51, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
- This page done.....working on others.--Moxy 🍁 02:48, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
Why are we doing this? There are articles on this in every jurisdiction around the world. 2020 coronavirus pandemic in the United States are still using the previous naming as are others. Shouldn't this be decided across the entire project?--Darryl Kerrigan (talk)
- @Darryl Kerrigan: Check out the "Survey" section of Talk:COVID-19 pandemic#Requested move 26 April 2020—they will all be moved. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 03:18, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks. I gather that applies to all articles, so the US, UK, Italy etc. articles will also be moved. It might have been a good idea to list that as a RfC or place a notice on all the related pages as that proposal applies to hundreds of others and if the editors of those articles think differently we could revisting this issue. It is probably the right decision though.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk)
- @Darryl Kerrigan: best keep an eye on Wikipedia:WikiProject COVID-19 for talks about big topics.--Moxy 🍁 03:41, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Moxy:Thanks, will do. I think there is validity to this discussion though. When decisions are made across many articles, it is wise to put notices there if possible or on other noticeboards or RfC lists. Otherwise, people may question the process and "consensus" built there.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 03:50, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Darryl Kerrigan: best keep an eye on Wikipedia:WikiProject COVID-19 for talks about big topics.--Moxy 🍁 03:41, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks. I gather that applies to all articles, so the US, UK, Italy etc. articles will also be moved. It might have been a good idea to list that as a RfC or place a notice on all the related pages as that proposal applies to hundreds of others and if the editors of those articles think differently we could revisting this issue. It is probably the right decision though.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk)
Done Canada related pages.... some data templates still need to be moved but they should be moved with the other related data templates as they are intertwined.--Moxy 🍁 03:22, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
False positive
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It turns out that the Nunavut case is a false positive, https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/covid-19-nunavut-1.5554545. Too much work to edit on my phone. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 19:50, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
You did not resolved at Background and epidemiology, there still say 1 active case Nunavut really annoying ... fix it now!!!! 0 active case is real life! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.76.229.79 (talk) 21:47, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
Request
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MedMira of Halifax developed one of the first rapid detection kits for HIV and has now developed a COVID-19 antibody test that takes 15-20 min.[407]
The article was misquoted it should have said: "From taking a drop of blood specimen to complete one single test, it will take less than three minutes," said Chan. According to Chan, other tests can take 15-20 minutes to complete and some need a reader to interpret the results.
Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Altamel (talk • contribs) 17:18, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- I have now fixed this. Thanks. J S Lundeen (talk) 16:32, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
Temporary impacts of pandemic on individual communities
Hello active editors here, please see the thread I have started at WP:CANTALK#Pandemic mentions in community articles. You are invited to comment at that thread. Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 00:57, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
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https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html Change arrival date to 15 January 2020, as-is stated in the credible source above SnowyIsHere (talk) 03:26, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
Partly done: The timeline section of the article indicates that the man arrived on the 22nd; it was merely reported on the 25th. So, I did move the date back, but by three days, not the ten that you requested. Your source does not appear reliable, as it doesn’t provide any details of the supposed January 15th case, and seems alone in making that claim. In fact, I found a peer-reviewed case report of the “First Case of COVID-19 in Canada” which further supports the January 22nd arrival date.[1] I added that citation (also included here) to the article. So, your edit request did help improve the accuracy of the article by drawing attention to the matter. Thanks for your contribution! — Tartan357 (Talk) 10:15, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
Background and epidemiology - Ontario Death is ERROR
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why number of cases, resolved and active cases is correct but number of death is wrong number, 1,669 death is wrong number, you need fix it!
Official Status of cases: 20,907 - Total number of cases, 15,391 - Resolved, 1,725 - Deaths and 3,791 - Active cases
at https://covid-19.ontario.ca/
1,725 is OFFICIAL DEATH! FIX NOW! FIX NOW! FIX NOW! oh geez! YOU WASTE MY TIME! 3 hours ignorant is SHAME!
- Buddy chill. There's no need for that. I've updated it. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 22:36, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for fixed it and chill out! :)
- ^ Marchand-Senécal, Xavier; Kozak, Rob; Mubareka, Samira; Salt, Natasha; Gubbay, Jonathan B; Eshaghi, Alireza; Allen, Vanessa; Li, Yan; Bastien, Natalie; Gilmour, Matthew; Ozaldin, Omar; Leis, Jerome A (March 9, 2020). "Diagnosis and Management of First Case of COVID-19 in Canada: Lessons applied from SARS". Clinical Infectious Diseases. ciaa227. doi:10.1093/cid/ciaa227. Retrieved 9 May 2020.
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