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: This is not one of the templates nominated for deletion; I made sure this one would be as fitting as [[Template:Skywalker family tree]] and [[Template:Jedi Order master-apprentice relationship]], which are allowed, as well as [[Template:Addams family tree]], the one which is currently generally agreed to be kept among those nominated. [[User:Cassandra872|Cassandra872]] ([[User talk:Cassandra872#top|talk]]) 14:44, 4 November 2020 (UTC) |
: This is not one of the templates nominated for deletion; I made sure this one would be as fitting as [[Template:Skywalker family tree]] and [[Template:Jedi Order master-apprentice relationship]], which are allowed, as well as [[Template:Addams family tree]], the one which is currently generally agreed to be kept among those nominated. [[User:Cassandra872|Cassandra872]] ([[User talk:Cassandra872#top|talk]]) 14:44, 4 November 2020 (UTC) |
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::Right. Because you added it after the other templates were nominated for discussion. Stop adding these templates everywhere. Once the discussion concludes, you'll have a better understanding of whether the templates are generally acceptable or instead, generally unacceptable (and if so, why). Until that discussion is concluded, you should stop creating new similar templates and you should stop adding them to pages. I want to be clear, the consensus may flip and it may be decided that all of your templates are appropriate and should be added widely, in which case great. But hold off until the discussion is resolved, please. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] ([[User talk:Yamla|talk]]) 14:47, 4 November 2020 (UTC) |
::Right. Because you added it after the other templates were nominated for discussion. Stop adding these templates everywhere. Once the discussion concludes, you'll have a better understanding of whether the templates are generally acceptable or instead, generally unacceptable (and if so, why). Until that discussion is concluded, you should stop creating new similar templates and you should stop adding them to pages. I want to be clear, the consensus may flip and it may be decided that all of your templates are appropriate and should be added widely, in which case great. But hold off until the discussion is resolved, please. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] ([[User talk:Yamla|talk]]) 14:47, 4 November 2020 (UTC) |
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: Okay, that seems reasonable. I will wait until the discussion is closed. [[User:Cassandra872|Cassandra872]] ([[User talk:Cassandra872#top|talk]]) 14:47, 4 November 2020 (UTC) |
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Hi, I don't know if you saw my comment on Talk:Sanjay Patel (character), but could you provide some proof that the Sanjay Patels on Weeds and Sanjay and Craig are actually the same character? Trivialist (talk) 00:02, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
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- @Bradford: I didn't change any part of the genre, so I do not really know what you are talking about. ..Cassandra872 (talk) 10:59, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
- For the title in English to remain as the main one, the series had to be broadcast at least in the United States with that name, and that did not happenBradfordTalk 21:29, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Bradford: Right, I did not know that was how it worked, sorry. I was under the impression the titles had to be in each Wikipedia's main language. Cassandra872 (talk) 10:59, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- For the title in English to remain as the main one, the series had to be broadcast at least in the United States with that name, and that did not happenBradfordTalk 21:29, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
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Corleone family tree
Hi Cassandra. Please leave the tree you made only at the Corleone family main page - no need for the big tree on every individual page. WP:BRD. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 19:22, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
- Hello @Vaselineeeeeeee: There is. The reason to have the tree as a template is if most members have their own pages to link to from it, like with the Skywalker family tree page. Cassandra872 (talk) 19:25, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the response. Per WP:BRD, your additions need to be discussed (maybe on the main page talk page) before re-adding them. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 19:27, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
- You’re welcome. I have responded on the talk page with a version of my first response here, tagging you. Cassandra872 (talk) 19:29, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the response. Per WP:BRD, your additions need to be discussed (maybe on the main page talk page) before re-adding them. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 19:27, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
Also I'd appreciate if you'd my amplification of the nationality and ethnicity on the page. With nothing plausible you just remove it. Nationality is not affiliated with birthplace but with fidelity. Vito Corleone is an italian-American figure. And is best suited that way. Jack Morales Garcia (talk) 02:30, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
Apologies for the typo mistakes.
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- @Jack Morales Garcia: You are talking to the wrong user. Cassandra872 (talk) 10:08, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
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There is no need to make a family tree in a encyclcopedia. This pretty much hits wp:fancruft and only fansites or wiki would find it important. Any notable relative should be mentioned in prose and the body rather than characters they have never met.Tintor2 (talk) 23:41, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
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Response to your edit summary
I am not going to revert your persistent addition of your family tree template to the List of Dragon Ball characters page, yet, but I will respond to your edit summary here. It is not my intention to make your life difficult or destroy out of spite whatever you are passionate about working on, but you really need to understand basic policy and guidelines on writing fictional material on Wikipedia. I know from experience because I've learned it the hard way too.
I invite you to thoroughly read up on Wikipedia policy for Verifiability and General Notability Guideline. These are important because they have been vetted through past consensus that every editor must follow, not a mere recommendation or opinion piece. Please understand that before you work on and publish anything, the onus is on you as the creator of the article to prove that a subject is notable and appropriate for inclusion into wikipedia main space. So, it is not my job or responsibility to correct you, the onus is on you to prove your submissions to wikipedia when another editor challenges the verifiability of your claims or the sources you cite.
As for your response of "Typically an I and II (or Sr. and Jr.) would be used to differentiate the characters, but it is not necessary, and I can remove it". Well, that is original research because neither primary or secondary sources actually say that Gohan is referred to as "II". It can be inferred by the reader that he is for all intents and purposes "Son Gohan II", but it is unencyclopedic to spell it out on Wikipedia when the sources don't explicitly spell it out. What's to say that Grandpa Gohan isn't the first member of his family lineage to be named Son Gohan? So, you must remove all references to that, or at least stop obstructing other editors like me from correcting it by reverting their edits. Now, compare this to Warren Worthington III, where the character is explicitly referred to as the third member in his family line with the exact same first and last name. Haleth (talk) 22:54, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- I can do that. Thank you for your response. Cassandra872 (talk) 23:13, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
STOP. Your family tree templates are nominated for deletion and have almost unanimous agreement at this time that they are inappropriate and violate WP:NOR. You need to immediately stop adding them to pages. Even if the templates were appropriate, your addition of them to multiple pages would not be. --Yamla (talk) 14:36, 4 November 2020 (UTC) @Yamla:
- This is not one of the templates nominated for deletion; I made sure this one would be as fitting as Template:Skywalker family tree and Template:Jedi Order master-apprentice relationship, which are allowed, as well as Template:Addams family tree, the one which is currently generally agreed to be kept among those nominated. Cassandra872 (talk) 14:44, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
- Right. Because you added it after the other templates were nominated for discussion. Stop adding these templates everywhere. Once the discussion concludes, you'll have a better understanding of whether the templates are generally acceptable or instead, generally unacceptable (and if so, why). Until that discussion is concluded, you should stop creating new similar templates and you should stop adding them to pages. I want to be clear, the consensus may flip and it may be decided that all of your templates are appropriate and should be added widely, in which case great. But hold off until the discussion is resolved, please. --Yamla (talk) 14:47, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, that seems reasonable. I will wait until the discussion is closed. Cassandra872 (talk) 14:47, 4 November 2020 (UTC)