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"He has won 32 major trophies in his career"
"He has won 34 major trophies in his career"
The 32 needs to change to 34 because he has added copa Italia and super copa to collection recently Jojo tah1984 (talk) 23:42, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Jojo Jojo tah1984 (talk) 23:42, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:43, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Cristiano Ronaldo is the leading goal scorer in international football
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45.116.231.2 (talk) 21:09, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:45, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
Article split
As per the article size editing guidelines, I think it would be worth splitting the international section into its' own article. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 20:56, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- I think the whole article probably just needs to be rewritten in a more appropriate summary style. Splitting off just the "International" section feels really weird to me. – PeeJay 14:28, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- We can’t split his international career with the rest of his career. One issue mentioned in the edit summary is how busy the article is, as new editors constantly add stuff to a career that is ongoing, much of which I’ve previously had to chop. It’s much easier to write about a playing career that has ended. The article itself, much like Obama’s, will be bigger than the norm though as there is so much to fit in. Nampa DC (talk) 15:54, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- There's literally articles devoted to "international goals", I'm not sure why this is so different. And Barack Obama definitely isn't a good example seeing as there's dozens and dozens of off-shoot articles about him. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 21:49, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
- We can’t split his international career with the rest of his career. One issue mentioned in the edit summary is how busy the article is, as new editors constantly add stuff to a career that is ongoing, much of which I’ve previously had to chop. It’s much easier to write about a playing career that has ended. The article itself, much like Obama’s, will be bigger than the norm though as there is so much to fit in. Nampa DC (talk) 15:54, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
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His height has always been 185cm yet he is now listed as 187cm which is incorrect. He is 6ft 1 which is 185cm Bingo109 (talk) 04:07, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
Not done for now: This has been disputed a multiple times in the past and there's a footnote on the article explaining the situation. Please provide justification as to why the information described by the footnote is not adequate, establish a consensus here, and provide sources. Once a consensus has been reached, reopen an edit request. Living Concrete (talk) 06:00, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
Family name
Instead of the first or maternal family name is dos Santos
shouldn't it be the first or maternal family name is Santos
as explained in [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikipedante (talk • contribs)
- I've been surfing a few articles with similar articles; some have the 'dos' in the naming customs note and some don't. Currently, at the top of the following articles, José Mourinho has his maternal family name as Santos but Oscar (footballer, born 1991) has his maternal family name as "dos Santos". In addition, Willian (footballer, born 1988) has "da Silva" as his paternal name. At this moment there is no consistency as to which one is correct or not. I'm inclined to keep the dos in there like with Dutch names where the surname, e.g. Van den Berg, is the correct version though others may have different views on this Portuguese naming dilemma. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 18:33, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Addition of his medical report data (publicly reported) when he transferred to Juventus.
I User:Leesjy2k have been trying to include the following relevant information regarding Cristiano Ronaldo’s transfer to Juventus. However, this useful information has been unnecessarily reverted by User:Nehme1499, he or she claimed that it was unnecessarily specific. However, I was directly citing from relevant press articles. They mentioned that Cristiano Ronaldo was faster than Kylian Mbappe at the 2018 FIFA World Cup, it was not my own words. I hope to re-include this into the Cristiano Ronaldo page soon, as this was an improvement on the article that was unnecessarily reverted by just one editor. I would like any commenters for this issue.
At the medical examination required to complete the transfer, his medical showed that Ronaldo, who was then a 33-year-old, had the physical age of a 20-year-old as he possessed 7% body fat, when the average for a professional footballer of the same age was 10%, whilst 50% of his body was made up of muscle mass, compared to 46% on average.[1][2] Leesjy2k (talk) 08:44, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
> Ronaldo, then 33-years-old, was noted to be the fastest player at the 2018 FIFA World Cup tournament, reaching 33.98 kilometres per hour, faster even than the then-19-year-old teenager Kylian Mbappe.[3] Leesjy2k (talk) 08:46, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
The relevant editor’s link is Nehme1499 Leesjy2k (talk) 08:58, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
- Completely irrelevant and trivial information - he is faster than someone else? He has a good BMI? He's one of the best footballers on the planet, it's almost a given. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:33, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
Yeah but surely people would want to know the health metrics on how is Cristiano Ronaldo, one of IG not the best player of the planet, also among in living memory? Surely his health metrics are relevant to an athlete? Leesjy2k (talk) 16:48, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
- saying hes faster than mboopi seems uneeded. may as well throw in hes faster than heskey too.Muur (talk) 01:26, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Italy - Serie A: Cristiano Ronaldo's body has the physical age of a 20-year-old". MARCA in English. 2018-07-23. Retrieved 2021-07-09.
- ^ "Cristiano Ronaldo's Physical Condition At Age 34 Is The Same As A 20-Year-Old". www.sportbible.com. Retrieved 2021-07-09.
- ^ "FIFA World Cup 2018: This was Cristiano Ronaldo's World Cup: He couldn't score in the decisive moments". MARCA in English. 2018-07-01. Retrieved 2021-07-09.
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The following year he led Portugal to their first triumph in a major tournament by winning Euro 2016, and received the Silver Boot as the second-highest goalscorer of the tournament.In 2021, he won the Golden Boot at Euro 2020 for being the joint top scorer in the tournament with the tie breaker broken on assists. 105.160.100.41 (talk) 09:57, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ––FORMALDUDE(talk) 21:33, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
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Please add the uefa super cup 2016 for ronaldo he won the title with real madrid and its mention on real madrid website that he won 16 title not 15 including 3 uefa super cup 2014 ,2016,2017 This is the source
https://www.realmadrid.com/en/about-real-madrid/history/football-legends/cristiano-ronaldo-dos-santos-aveiro Ahmadalkhyat (talk) 13:48, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
Not done: In that section, the following wikinote is present: "Please do not add UEFA Super Cup 2016 to honours. He was not part of the squad. See → http://www.uefa.com/uefasupercup/season=2016/clubs/club=50051/squad/index.html. If you disagree, do not add, please discuss on the talk page."
So please follow that advice
SSSB (talk) 11:42, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
Authority control (external links section)
I just saw on the external links section of this article that the authority control template is not in a bar like the others. Is there a glitch? 2001:569:78BA:4A00:DCC7:C46E:9109:8EE2 (talk) 21:13, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
- Yes. There are too many templates and it cannot be displayed correctly. The links can be seen if you click show preview if you edit that subsection. (CC) Tbhotch™ 04:41, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Chipmunkdavis (talk · contribs) 14:15, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
I'm interested in taking on this review. As an initial comment the lead needs reworking to better reflect the article. While it appears to go through a list of awards twice in two separate paragraphs, his player profile, outside life, and personal life appear to be unmentioned. The other immediate issue that stands out is using notes to group citations. Such citations can be grouped within normal reference code. I note at the outset that this is a particularly long article, with 81kB of prose. Due to the specificity of the article and the lack of subarticles, I think that is acceptable for the moment in terms of prose size, however, on a technical level, this article may be exceeding the WP:PEIS, as the Authority control template is not loading for me. Before undertaking a detailed assessment however, I note that the nominator has not made many edits to the article, and would like to inquire if regular editors were approached prior to the nomination as recommended at WP:GANI, and/or are involved in this GAN. CMD (talk) 14:15, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
- There has not been a reply to my question above, nor work on the lead or citation issues I mentioned over the past week. Further reading through, I would agree with the comments on the 2020 peer review, that many areas of this article are individual match stats with no apparent indication of overall relevance of notability. This begins in the third paragraph of 2003–2007: Development and breakthrough, and occurs at various locations throughout. This is not to say that every statistic or match fact is like this, some do provide an explanation of interest and notability, but even the specific examples raised in the last peer review don't appear to have been touched at all. Another issue is neutrality, particularly in the article's WP:TONE. There is a profusion of quotes, both in quote boxes and in the text, many of which do not seem to add much encyclopaedic context. The Player profile section seems quite jargon-heavy, and uses quite flowery language that could easily be rewritten to be more accessible to a general audience (eg. "make him an aerial goal threat in the penalty area"). The Career statistics section could use some prose to summarise the table and note the most notable achievements. There are some scattered throughout the article elsewhere, so it's very odd there's no text about them in the dedicated section. The same applies to the Honours section, which has the additional issue of half of it being a list of seasons played, which is already covered under Career.
- Given the issues identified, and especially given the lack of activity, I am closing this now. Before a new nomination, it would be good to make sure issues raised in the Peer Review are dealt with, as well as those I have mentioned here. CMD (talk) 09:41, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
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The photo description looks like it needs a space between ‘with’ and ‘portugal’. 199.15.233.65 (talk) 15:59, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- I see it displayed correctly on my end. Nehme1499 16:09, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
Cleanup
Hi. While I generally agree with your (ItsKesha) cleanup, I don't see why his seasonal top scorer awards shouldn't be included (PL Golden Boot, Pichichi and Capocannoniere). I think the average reader would expect to see those three, at least. Nehme1499 12:11, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
- What are your thoughts? Nehme1499 14:33, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- I'd probably agree with that yeah Nehme1499. "Ballon d'Or dream team" and/or "Golden Foot" should be removed in my opinion. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 14:53, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- I also agree, I've removed them. Nehme1499 15:27, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- I'd probably agree with that yeah Nehme1499. "Ballon d'Or dream team" and/or "Golden Foot" should be removed in my opinion. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 14:53, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
Cristiano Ronaldo has left juventus
Can anyone please make cristiano Ronaldo juventus 2018-2021 because it is confirmed that Ronaldo has left juventus Abdulmajeeeeed (talk) 21:58, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Abdulmajeeeeed: source? --FMSky (talk) 22:01, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
- Just rumors for now, nothing official yet. Nehme1499 22:09, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
Fabrizio romano confirmed that cristiano Ronaldo left juventus and he is a very famous transfer news guy Abdulmajeeeeed (talk) 01:52, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Man City
Hasn't yet to be confirmed going to city, and the Manchester City in the first paragraph redirects you to Series A Jsp2211 (talk) 03:36, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
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Pls change Ronaldo club from Man City to Juventus. He hasn't made the transfer yet 2402:3A80:A61:11D0:491E:4226:79D0:16E8 (talk) 07:13, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 09:14, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
H Alex okokokokokkkkkkk (talk) 21:46, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
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Ronaldo has just signed for Manchester city. I’m submitting a request to edit this page which states that he still play at Juventus, which is incorrect. 24.68.236.121 (talk) 09:06, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 09:15, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
This is not true and was never confirmed. Ronaldo declined Manchester City's transfer and accepted Manchester United's. Ellmay06 (talk) 21:28, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
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Change Manchester United apps to 292 and goals to 118 as per official website Reel editor24 (talk) 18:02, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Not done - These are the total apps and goals for all competitions for Manchester United, the infobox counts for league goals only which is standard for all footballers. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 18:05, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Confirmation on Manchester United website
Subject to one or two wrinkles being ironed out: https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/official-statement-on-agreement-reached-for-cristiano-ronaldo --Scherben808 (talk) 18:21, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Apply this please Alex okokokokokkkkkkk (talk) 21:44, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Ronaldo joined Manchester United confirmed Shashank 9002 (talk) 00:14, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- Not yet. Nehme1499 00:20, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
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Now signed for Manchester United 86.24.212.7 (talk) 18:25, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Not done for now: Manchester United is delighted to confirm that the club has reached agreement with Juventus for the transfer of Cristiano Ronaldo, subject to agreement of personal terms, visa and medical. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:30, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Please add update surrounding rape case
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Under the "Legal Issues" subheading, the last update says:
In July 2019, Las Vegas prosecutors said they would not charge Ronaldo over allegations of rape; the statement added: "Based upon a review of information at this time, the allegations of sexual assault against Cristiano Ronaldo cannot be proven beyond a reasonable doubt."[544]
However, the case is still ongoing and this gives a false impression. In 2020, a judge put the case back on course for trial. As far as I can tell, that's the last substantive news on the case. Here is a report from the Associated Press: https://www.si.com/soccer/2020/10/06/cristiano-ronaldo-rape-case-trial-kathryn-mayorga
I'm requesting for someone to add the following to the page:
"In 2020, a judge put the case back on course for trial, saying she will hear arguments from both sides and make a decision herself on the matter."
I want to cite the Associated Press there as well. Thank you.
--BlackenedTheUSSR (talk) 20:34, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Not done: This isn't trial for the rape, it's for the accuser saying she was not fit to sign the original settlement agreement. Your wording implies that this would be a trial for rape. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:45, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
OK, I'm not a legal expert and I'm not fully aware of the implications of the case, but I do think as it stands it's incomplete. There are still legal issues connected to the alleged rape that the page does not mention (it is under the heading of "legal issues", not "rape jury trial," after all), and it gives the wrong impression that it's all fully settled. BlackenedTheUSSR (talk) 23:29, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
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Ellmay06 (talk) 21:27, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
I want to edit this page to update Cristiano Ronaldo's current football team regarding his transfer to Manchester United from Juventus. I'd also like to include his recent transfer on his career history and write about the whole 48 hour saga of him possibly transferring to rivals Manchester City, before former teammate Rio Ferdinand, former manager Sir Alex Ferguson and Portugal teammate Bruno Fernandes managed to convince him to decline Manchester City's transfer offer and accept Manchester United's instead. Please let me change this to prevent further confusion regarding his current career status.
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:33, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- Ronaldo has not yet signed a contract with United, even if the move is a done deal, so we are not updating that yet. All detail about him being set to join City beforehand is already covered. IronManCap (talk) 00:13, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 28 August 2021
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Change Seria A and Juventus in the first paragraph to Premier League and Manchester United Theokon122 (talk) 00:41, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
Not done for now: See above, Ronaldo has not yet signed a contract with Man Utd, so is not yet an official Man Utd player. IronManCap (talk) 00:47, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
BBC sports confirms deal with Manchester United. Seems like some Wikipedia editors revel in a degree of schadenfreude in denying others the ability to edit first. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.98.105.22 (talk)
- @167.98.105.22: Please assume good faith and also read articles more carefully. The latest story on this topic on the BBC website says United have agreed to pay £12.8m for the 36-year-old, with the deal subject to personal terms, a visa and a medical meaning the deal is not final yet. The last sentence of the article says A few hours later the club announced they had reached an agreement for what will be their third major signing of the summer transfer window following the arrivals of Jadon Sancho and Raphael Varane (emphasis mine), also indicating that the Ronaldo is not yet a Manchester United Player. Ytoyoda (talk) 03:51, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
Even Manchester confirm that they haven't agreed terms with the player yet. From their press release "Manchester United is delighted to confirm that the club has reached agreement with Juventus for the transfer of Cristiano Ronaldo, subject to agreement of personal terms, visa and medical[1]"John arneVN (talk) 04:02, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
Yeah it is now difficult to travel to UK due to COVID so it may take some time RonaldoTheGOAT (talk) 13:49, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
Change on the current team
Pls change his current team to Manchester United as he is now one of the official players in the above mentioned team RonaldoTheGOAT (talk) 13:47, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
change his current team to Manchester United
I have more information about him moving to Manchester United McCarthy Oscar (talk) 18:12, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
Not done It's isn't official as Ronaldo is with Juve as of now, SoonerFan4life67 (talk) 15:41, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
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I want to change Ronaldo's team because he currently has no team and this page says that he is a Juventus player so I will like to make that slight adjustment I want to change Ronaldo's team because he currently has no team and this page says that he is a Juventus player so I will like to make that slight adjustment 102.66.134.5 (talk) 15:53, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
Not done for now: See above, Ronaldo has not yet signed a contract with Man Utd, so is not yet an official Man Utd player. Nehme1499 16:12, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
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Ronaldo plus for man u 86.16.118.0 (talk) 20:41, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
- No. This is explained above. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 20:42, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
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Cristiano Ronaldo has officially left Juventus and joined Manchester united. Hence I am requesting this edit!! Syed Neehal (talk) 22:40, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
- Please read previous questions and replies before submitting a request. Britmax (talk) 22:59, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
Not done per above. IronManCap (talk) 23:24, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
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Ronald has now transferred from juventus to Manchester United 2A00:23C5:C496:9901:519A:95ED:B9E6:6808 (talk) 23:00, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
- No. See above. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 23:09, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
About club
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Hi Cristiano Ronaldo changed the club ... He is in Manchester United Fufjaka (talk) 04:11, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Not done per above. Nehme1499 11:08, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
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James Waugh98 (talk) 13:24, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Ronaldo as moved
J.waugh James Waugh98 (talk) 13:24, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Not done per above. IronManCap (talk) 13:28, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Extended-Confirm Edit request on 29 August 2021
Alright, even though I have extended-confirm rights, I have been blocked from editing the page but there's a section that says "Return to Man United", could you take that section off as he's not officially with Man U SoonerFan4life67 (talk) 15:09 29 August 2021
Not done: The fact that the move is pending and not fully finalised is no justification to take out a whole reliably sourced section. Assuming good faith, it sounds like your block was justified if your only interest was disruption. IronManCap (talk) 15:19, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Update
Update Ronaldo's club Shashank 9002 (talk) 00:13, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- No, see the comments above. Nehme1499 00:14, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
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Change 'Serie A club Juventus' to 'Premier League club Manchester United. put 2018-2021 Juventus 2021- Manchester United Nathanlong3010 (talk) 08:28, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- He's still not signed? All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 08:49, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
Medical completed and "contract signed"
Ronaldo has completed his medical and, according to Fabrizio Romano, has also signed a contract. Is this good enough to update the club or do we need the visa situation to be sorted? IronManCap (talk) 19:17, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- @IronManCap not yet. We should wait the officiality by Juventus Dr Salvus 19:18, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Dr Salvus: Why? We have reliably sourced confirmation that Ronaldo has now completed his medical. The only question here is whether Fabrizio Romano (who's verified) is a reliable enough source to say the contract has been signed. IronManCap (talk) 19:21, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- Again, we are not a journal so we do have to wait the official confirmation by Juventus Dr Salvus 19:23, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- Again, why? Wikipedia does not have to go by anything "official", the important thing is WP:Verifiability. We have a reliable source confirming the medical is completed, we now need to discuss whether the Fabrizio tweet is reliable enough to say he has signed. Being official has nothing to do with it. IronManCap (talk) 19:27, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- @IronManCap: Give it a rest mate. Let the big boys handle this. RossButsy (talk) 19:55, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- @RossButsy: The only
big boys
on Wikipedia are reliable sources. I guess we'll wait for a bigger publication to report that the contract has been signed then, since this discussion isn't proving very fruitful. IronManCap (talk) 20:13, 30 August 2021 (UTC)- I'm also OK about your last revert RossButsy, it would probably make sense to get a single source saying he's finalised everything in hindsight. IronManCap (talk) 20:37, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- @IronManCap: Actually I’m fine with the edit about the medical being completed upon reflection. Could be removed though when the contract is signed maybe? Counterintuitive potentially but as of now no objections from me on the edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RossButsy (talk • contribs) 20:59, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- @RossButsy: It's been reverted as run-of-the-mill info, so let's wait till the actual contract signing. IronManCap (talk) 21:55, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- @IronManCap: Actually I’m fine with the edit about the medical being completed upon reflection. Could be removed though when the contract is signed maybe? Counterintuitive potentially but as of now no objections from me on the edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RossButsy (talk • contribs) 20:59, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- I'm also OK about your last revert RossButsy, it would probably make sense to get a single source saying he's finalised everything in hindsight. IronManCap (talk) 20:37, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- @RossButsy: The only
- @IronManCap Fabrizio would be a reliable source if he were writing for Sky Sports, but his personal Twitter account is a self-published source. WP:SPS says
Never use self-published sources as independent sources about living people, even if the author is an expert, well-known professional researcher, or writer.
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PAGE) 20:27, 30 August 2021 (UTC)- Thanks very much Ahecht, I wasn't aware of that guideline. IronManCap (talk) 20:29, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- @IronManCap: Give it a rest mate. Let the big boys handle this. RossButsy (talk) 19:55, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- Again, why? Wikipedia does not have to go by anything "official", the important thing is WP:Verifiability. We have a reliable source confirming the medical is completed, we now need to discuss whether the Fabrizio tweet is reliable enough to say he has signed. Being official has nothing to do with it. IronManCap (talk) 19:27, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- Again, we are not a journal so we do have to wait the official confirmation by Juventus Dr Salvus 19:23, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Dr Salvus: Why? We have reliably sourced confirmation that Ronaldo has now completed his medical. The only question here is whether Fabrizio Romano (who's verified) is a reliable enough source to say the contract has been signed. IronManCap (talk) 19:21, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
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He is the best footballer of the century should be added
- Sources? Without sources, we can't add such a statement. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 12:24, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
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Ronaldos shirt number has been announced on MUFC’s official Facebook page. It is 7 2A01:4C8:8A1:7018:F43D:D37F:4EB3:671D (talk) 19:14, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
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Ronaldo has the number 7 at Manchester United, he got it from Cavani and Cavani has number 21. Source is official Manchester United News. 80.1.106.108 (talk) 19:17, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
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cristiano ronaldo confirmed his man utd shirt number (7)
maybe change cristiano ronaldo manutd shirt number BarnabySmash (talk) 10:35, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
This has already been done SoonerFan4life67 (talk) 14:15, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
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Change Goals For Man U to 1 in 2021 108.54.184.9 (talk) 14:49, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:01, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
Live stats aren’t updated in info box RossButsy (talk) 15:22, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
Plane in support of Kathryn Mayorga
Are there any valid reasons this incident of note shouldn't be covered in the section "return to Manchester United"? The reason it was done is the "culture of silence" surrounding the rape first reported by Der Speigel, (which Ronaldo admitted to in those documents, so it's not an "allegation"). The reporting of the rape following his return has itself been the topic of controversy for The Athletic and The Guardian, among others. You can't stick your fingers in your ears and deny this is all happening. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 10:48, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- Messi R9 R10 CR7 Thiago LFC thoughts, seeing as you're so keen to remove this information? All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 10:59, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- cause its an allegation, or he'd be in jail -- FMSky (talk) 12:56, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- ItsKesha I don't normally edit football articles but unproven allegations are unproven allegations, no WP:RS no legal court verdict or anything that solidifies the claim. And I don not see the relevance of these allegations in CR7's football (soccer) career article. Today allegations can be and ARE made against anyone, even Bob Dylan for an incident that supposedly happened in the 1960s, that has no proof. As those editors said innocent until proven guilty, and these allegations do not meet WP:Notability. Please do not try to push your agenda defaming legendary CR7 based on unproven allegations. If there is a solid judiciary verdict then we can see. All my warmest wishes. Dilbaggg (talk) 13:14, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- He can't go to jail if he refuses to enter the country, as in 2018 and then in 2019. It's irrelevant it being called an "allegation" when he not only paid her, he admitted the allegations, and then refused to enter the country, and then the clubs he plays for refuse to address the matter; hence the "culture of silence" by not only the club but by sections of the media, the entire purpose of the information I included in the article. You can't just ignore this is all happening and hiding by using the word allegation. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 13:25, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- Can you please quote from your so-called "source" where CR7 admitted that he had raped? And if you pay someone for sex its not rape, its buying a service, she had the right to refuse the money. Either ways the matter was settled, CR7 have been proven innocent. Your so called sources seems to be hate rants rather than reliable sources. And please do not misquote source, there is not a single line in your sources where CR7 "admitted he raped/had forced sex". Also the documents that were talking about a person named X (there is zero evidence that X is refering to CR7, only your unreliable source states that) have later been stated to be fabrictaed. Your sources appear non Neutral and defamatory]]. WP:RS and the legal verdicts proved CR7's innocence. Dilbaggg (talk) 13:45, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- Also here is Kathryn Mayorga's twitter confession she is doing all these unproven allegation "to become rich": https://twitter.com/mayorga_kathryn/status/1049228378715443200 Dilbaggg (talk) 13:59, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- I get it. You have absolutely no understanding of the case whatsoever, and you still have absolutely no idea what a reliable source is. Please can you do your research before discussing this? All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 16:30, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- It appears to be your WP:OR that allegations are facts, no WP:RS claims them facts and charges were dropped, so allegations are allegations. Best wishes. Dilbaggg (talk) 17:42, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- The article isn't even claiming that the allegations are facts, and neither was the text I included. Get your facts right please. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 18:06, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- It appears to be your WP:OR that allegations are facts, no WP:RS claims them facts and charges were dropped, so allegations are allegations. Best wishes. Dilbaggg (talk) 17:42, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- I get it. You have absolutely no understanding of the case whatsoever, and you still have absolutely no idea what a reliable source is. Please can you do your research before discussing this? All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 16:30, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- Also here is Kathryn Mayorga's twitter confession she is doing all these unproven allegation "to become rich": https://twitter.com/mayorga_kathryn/status/1049228378715443200 Dilbaggg (talk) 13:59, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- ItsKesha Three editors have reverted your unreliable edits that have nothing to do with CR7's football career so far. Please seek an WP:RfC. What a few members have within the attendence does have nothing to do with CR7's football career section and these false allegations are already mentioned in a separate section. Next thing you might end up doing is writing about fans drinking soda at the attendance, this section is about CR7's solo football career. Eitherways many editors have disagreed the credibility of this addition of yours, so please seek WP:RfC. Dilbaggg (talk) 06:54, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- ItsKesha Keep shamelessly adding your original opinion dismissing real settled verdicts, WP:RS and the accuser's own confession that she did it to be rich, yet another editor (not me or the ones who did before) has reverted your disruptive dits. Who do you think you are, some superiority complex that your own opinion about a matter is bigger than anything? Thankfully editors are stepping in and reverting your disruptive editings. if you have any decency you would ask for an WP:RfC and let voters decide the matter than this disgusting WP:EW attempting behavior. You are not the owner of this article, let voters decide the matter or the protectors of Wikipedia will revert your disruptive editing. Dilbaggg (talk) 11:27, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- It's not my opinion that a plane flew overhead protesting the signing of Cristiano Ronaldo and the controversy surround him. There's actual pictures of it happening. This discussion about him since signing for United is actually happening by reliable sources like The Athletic, The Guardian, The Independent, BBC, Manchester Evening News, i, ESPN, Sky Sports... need I go on? This isn't a normal thing that happens in football. And the fact you believe an obviously fake Twitter account says so much about your ability, or lack thereof, to judge reliable sources. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 11:41, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- Then it belongs to the controversy section, it has nothing to do with his football career, fans react differently to things, haters hate, and all, plus I don't see a single other editor agreeing that this is WP:Notable ItsKesha. Planes have also been known to flow above other football games for different reasons, doesn't necessarily make them notable. Good day, please do not WP:EW, just seek a consensus gto test its notability please. Dilbaggg (talk) 11:44, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- One last thing, the Twitter account is legitimate, she confessed that it was all for money. Its obvious on that tweet, she tried to cover it up later but its too late. Thank goodness justice prevailed and CR7 has been cleared legally from these false allegations. Best wishes and bye. Dilbaggg (talk) 11:45, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- If you think it belongs in the controversy section, you would have moved it to the controversy section. You still can. It's so simple to do! But the fact is, you describe my edits as "defaming legendary CR7" and delete them, and then insult me as having a "superiority complex". Nobody has explained or argued as to it's notability, please don't put words into the mouths (hands) of other editors. If your argument is that planes have flown over other games, therefore that makes it not notable (which is a prime example of whataboutery), rudimentary research shows me that last season, 0.007% of games had a plane fly over it with a banner. The season before, 0.005%. I believe all but one of those planes warrants mention in the associated article. And where is your evidence the Twitter account is real? The account is three years old, has 300 followers, doesn't have a blue tick, and aside from these obvious facts, the Tweets themselves are obviously not real. Like I said, it says a lot. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 12:09, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- IMO it doesnt belong in the article at all; it's trivia FMSky (talk) 12:43, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- Accusations of a club being completely silent about a high-profile player paying a woman who accused him of rape, and all incidents and news around it, are "trivial"? Now, bear in mind this isn't one sentence in articles, one incident, one source. This is now an ongoing thing regarding his return to the club. I think this is unprecedented in football? All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 14:12, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- I mean only the part with the banner flown over the stadium FMSky (talk) 14:53, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- Accusations of a club being completely silent about a high-profile player paying a woman who accused him of rape, and all incidents and news around it, are "trivial"? Now, bear in mind this isn't one sentence in articles, one incident, one source. This is now an ongoing thing regarding his return to the club. I think this is unprecedented in football? All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 14:12, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- IMO it doesnt belong in the article at all; it's trivia FMSky (talk) 12:43, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- If you think it belongs in the controversy section, you would have moved it to the controversy section. You still can. It's so simple to do! But the fact is, you describe my edits as "defaming legendary CR7" and delete them, and then insult me as having a "superiority complex". Nobody has explained or argued as to it's notability, please don't put words into the mouths (hands) of other editors. If your argument is that planes have flown over other games, therefore that makes it not notable (which is a prime example of whataboutery), rudimentary research shows me that last season, 0.007% of games had a plane fly over it with a banner. The season before, 0.005%. I believe all but one of those planes warrants mention in the associated article. And where is your evidence the Twitter account is real? The account is three years old, has 300 followers, doesn't have a blue tick, and aside from these obvious facts, the Tweets themselves are obviously not real. Like I said, it says a lot. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 12:09, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- One last thing, the Twitter account is legitimate, she confessed that it was all for money. Its obvious on that tweet, she tried to cover it up later but its too late. Thank goodness justice prevailed and CR7 has been cleared legally from these false allegations. Best wishes and bye. Dilbaggg (talk) 11:45, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- Then it belongs to the controversy section, it has nothing to do with his football career, fans react differently to things, haters hate, and all, plus I don't see a single other editor agreeing that this is WP:Notable ItsKesha. Planes have also been known to flow above other football games for different reasons, doesn't necessarily make them notable. Good day, please do not WP:EW, just seek a consensus gto test its notability please. Dilbaggg (talk) 11:44, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- It's not my opinion that a plane flew overhead protesting the signing of Cristiano Ronaldo and the controversy surround him. There's actual pictures of it happening. This discussion about him since signing for United is actually happening by reliable sources like The Athletic, The Guardian, The Independent, BBC, Manchester Evening News, i, ESPN, Sky Sports... need I go on? This isn't a normal thing that happens in football. And the fact you believe an obviously fake Twitter account says so much about your ability, or lack thereof, to judge reliable sources. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 11:41, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- ItsKesha Keep shamelessly adding your original opinion dismissing real settled verdicts, WP:RS and the accuser's own confession that she did it to be rich, yet another editor (not me or the ones who did before) has reverted your disruptive dits. Who do you think you are, some superiority complex that your own opinion about a matter is bigger than anything? Thankfully editors are stepping in and reverting your disruptive editings. if you have any decency you would ask for an WP:RfC and let voters decide the matter than this disgusting WP:EW attempting behavior. You are not the owner of this article, let voters decide the matter or the protectors of Wikipedia will revert your disruptive editing. Dilbaggg (talk) 11:27, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
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Need to change the goals and appearances numbers for Real Madrid. They need to be changed from 292 to 438 appearances and from 311 goals to 450 goals. 138.88.225.12 (talk) 00:55, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:36, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
- goals are correct, its league games only FMSky (talk) 10:47, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
This is according to league stats MatsLP (talk) 03:45, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
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mention the origin of his name, namely receiving it after Ronald Reagan, as Cristiano confirmed himself in this GQ article: https://www.gq.com/story/cristiano-ronaldo-gq-body-issue and also in this Washington Post article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/01/19/cristiano-ronaldo-was-named-after-ronald-reagan-no-really/ Le13ron (talk) 13:50, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:48, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
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3 matches, 4 goals for United in 2021! 84.238.131.248 (talk) 13:50, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
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Ronaldo had scored four goals in three matches since returning to Manchester United. This should be updated from two goals in one match. 120.159.185.15 (talk) 13:52, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
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