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On 11 October 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from Death of JonBenét Ramsey to Killing of JonBenét Ramsey. The result of the discussion was moved.

Requested move 11 October 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Elli (talk | contribs) 18:27, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Death of JonBenét Ramsey → Killing of JonBenét Ramsey – Per WP:DEATHS, the form "Death of..." is should be used for titles of articles detailing accidents or natural cuases— Which is not the case here. violent deaths should indicate it within their headers as 'Killing of.. Inf-in MD (talk) 23:50, 11 October 2021 (UTC) Inf-in MD (talk) 23:50, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support – the case was ruled a homicide therefore it is a killing. cookie monster 755 17:19, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose At least when this event was notable, the manner of death wasn't known. Certainly it was known that it was a homicide and not a suicide, but the threshold for "manner of death known" should be higher than knowing that one fact. User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 18:37, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Her manner of death was determined by her autopsy, performed at 08:15 on December 27, 1996, less than 24 hours after her body was found. The manner of death was known for nearly the entire time of the event's contemporary notability. --Equivamp - talk 01:15, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support, per WP:DEATHS. 162 etc. (talk) 19:44, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support This was a homicide, not an accident. Dimadick (talk) 05:25, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Very clearly a homicide. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:56, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support. There doesn't seem to have been any serious question as to whether or not it was a killing while it was notable. Vahurzpu (talk) 03:50, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The poor girl never get to have, or still nowadays, the identity of her killer. She was murdered and at least her article deserves to be clarified, in memoriam. TheBellaTwins1445 (talk) 18:17, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose killing, Support murder This is a clear indication that JonBenet was murdered. I believe that penetrator was convicted. 182.1.60.144 (talk) 05:06, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Neither the perpetrator nor the "penetrator" of her killing has been convicted or identified. --Equivamp - talk 05:34, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Genetic Genealogy

Should the investigation section say that genetic genealogy is being considered for the case? Here is a link. https://whnt.com/news/could-new-dna-tech-crack-the-jonbenet-ramsey-case/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shktriib1 (talk • contribs) 22:35, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Intro section, place and death date

The intro of this article should start with what is about - The killing of JonBenét Ramsey was a murder case of a six-year-old American girl that happened inside of her family's home in Boulder, Colorado, not; JonBenét Patricia Ramsey (August 6, 1990 – December 25 or 26, 1996) was an American child beauty queen who was killed at the age of six in her family's home in Boulder, Colorado. This article talks completely about the killing of this child and not her biography, yes it has just a small section of who was her, but only that, the full article is about her killing and so the main should start just like this. Same as with the article of Mexican suspicious death victim - Paulette Gebara Farah, who died almost in the same circumstances as JonBenét. Even the title of the infobox should be matching with the article name Killing of JonBenét Ramsey, not JonBenét Ramsey.

In addition, regarding her place of death, same as with the case of Paulette in Mexico, we should took off the place of death mentioned since we have not the assurance that JonBenét was rightly killed on her home, she could probably have been taken somewhere else, a different place, and later her body was brought back to her house. Since almost everything regarding her passing is just a mistery, we should just keep the death date which should have the "Circa" template since is just an approximation to the date she could probably have died, but not the exact known death date, the same as with Paulette Gebara. TheBellaTwins1445 (talk) 07:26, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I vote against your edits. The sentence that you dislike does say what the article is about, and it contains important information that you have removed. And the writing is better.

There is no rule against putting information about the victim first.

The infobox is for a person, not a crime.

As far as I know, you are the only person who thinks the crime might have happened somewhere else.
63.226.236.153 (talk) 12:04, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Importnat like what? That very little information is already being said on the part of the aryicle that talks about her, there is nothing important being taken off, and yes it says what the article is about, the killing of a young little girl. No rule, yet the article is not a biography. So what? the article needs to match with the infobox, in any case we should also change the infobox. We cannot assume that the crime happened in that place, who knows? at the very end someone else could have killed her, and then put her back in the house, in that state, she could also have been kidnapped or taken somewhere else. TheBellaTwins1445 (talk) 19:26, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You would be taken more seriously without absurd grammar and punctuation mistakes. 2600:8800:5100:A20:9855:2BBD:9BBB:39E4 (talk) 22:31, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]