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March 30

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 30, 2022.

Flag of Tanasi

While the Cherokee town of Tanasi is the etymological namesake of the state of Tennessee, the state flag was only developed much later and was never used by Tanasi. Deletion seems appropriate, as there is no indication that Tanasi ever had a flag. signed, Rosguill talk 17:44, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

i wasnt even aiming to say that tanasi town had a flag but ok Kxeon (talk) 18:05, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Clean team

Not mentioned at the target, nothing illuminating came up in an internet search, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 17:36, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Here’s a link to the definition and how it relates to VDRs, though I appreciate this is not referred to in the article: https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=42ed02a6-2f19-4271-aa93-6f940d25367c (also, that page requests registration after a single view) — cBuckley (TalkContribs) 18:07, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Polaris FTV-5

Not mentioned at the targets, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 17:30, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Civil Court

See Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 February 25#Civil court, which retargeted Civil court to Civil law. This is just the capitalized version and should probably redirect to the same place. eviolite (talk) 17:25, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gender critical

I would like this redirect to become an article in it's own right as the subject matter of the redirect does not encompass the subject sufficiently, they are two separate subjects. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maurice269 (talkcontribs) 13:54, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. The target of the current redirect is - for now - the proper outcome. The Feminist views on transgender topics#Gender critical feminism/trans-exclusionary radical feminism subsection is comprehensive, neutral, and well referenced, with over 20 references in the section. The mooted replacement was a dictionary definition and unreferenced opinion/WP:OR. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 14:04, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't think you realise that they *are* different subjects, the Gender Critical point of view is not a part of feminism and many people who would call themselves Gender Critical would not consider themselves feminists. As such the original article mis-represents a subject which has become a community in it's own right. Without a dedicate page, it will force contributors to update the page specific to feminism with increasingly unrelated information solely related to the Gender Critical point of view, which will be confusing for readers. As to the contents of the replacement, without the time to be able to add to it without it being reverted, it's very hard to develop it to a point where it isn't just a definition. Maurice269 (talk) 14:26, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep for now. The "Gender Critical" ideology emerged from feminism, specifically from Radical Feminism, and its adherents still largely present it in that light, albeit with varying degrees of sincerity. The redirect gives a good account of what it is and there is no obstacle to it being expanded further. None the less, I am somewhat sympathetic to Maurice269's view. The rhetoric of "Gender Critical Feminism" has been taken up (again, with varying degrees of sincerity) by many who are unambiguously not feminists at all, even including some quite extreme social conservatives. Meanwhile, a majority of feminists, including many Radical Feminists, do not want anything to do with it for pretty obvious reasons. (Biological essentialism does not go down well in most feminist circles.) It is possible that it will become perceived as fully detached from feminism in the future and then the need for a split into a separate article will be justified. I don't think we are there yet. --DanielRigal (talk) 17:28, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Function(mathematics)

Delete per WP:RDAB. The properly-spaced title is the redirect's target page. Steel1943 (talk) 08:43, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Willie Foster

I redirected this to the Bill Foster DAB today but it was reverted by User:162 etc. because of the RMs, see Talk:Willie Foster (gridiron football). There was a clear consensus that the gridiron footballer wasn't primary but not that the baseball was primary. I suggest redirecting to the DAB. The 1st Google result is for Little Willy Foster. Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:44, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep current primary redirect. There was indeed a long discussion about this at the above-linked RM, which identified that there are three possible targets for "Willie Foster":
  • I'm not aware of anybody else at Bill Foster or William Foster who is commonly known as "Willie Foster". Of these three then, we should ask if there is a primary topic. Based on pageviews [5] and long-term notability, it's clear that that is Bill Foster (baseball). The existing redirect and hatnotes should stay as-is. 162 etc. (talk) 22:04, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Given that neither Bill Foster nor Little Willy Foster is primarily referred to as "Willie", and that we do meanwhile have an article on someone who does primarily go by that name, even if they're much less notable, I think it's hard to say there's a clear primary topic. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 23:09, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Tamzin makes a good point. Redirect to DAB. Happy Editing--IAmChaos 09:16, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 07:35, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Space ethics

Not equivalent, "space ethics" is a much broader and independently notable topic ([6], [7], [8]) that is currently primarily focused on the ethics of space debris creation and the ethics of going to space at all. I think deletion to encourage article creation is appropriate unless someone wants to get started working on a stub. signed, Rosguill talk 16:20, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Nsae Comp has written the stub.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 07:27, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

-2 (number)

This redirect was tagged with a speedy deletion tag with no valid criteria offered. So I untagged it but I also question the usefulness of this redirect so I thought I'd send it to RFD for evaluation, if you can see a reason for its presence on Wikipedia. Liz Read! Talk! 00:50, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder why this redirect wasn't included in that RFD discussion but maybe the addition of "(number)" made it less visible to the nominator. Liz Read! Talk! 05:53, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Bundled -3 (number) and relisting for further input.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 07:14, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Frederik Kaarle I of Finland

Entirely made-up name that is never used. DrKay (talk) 07:30, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment The fi.wp article says (transl.) "The electoral document called Friedrich Karl by the name Fredrik Kaarle.[111]" with the citation pointing to page 13 of Riitta Sihvonen's 1997 book Valtaistuin vapaana: Kysymys korkeimman vallan käytöstä Suomessa 1918–1919 which I don't have access to. Google books also has a bunch of hits for "Fredrik Kaarle". Based on the quotations in the fi.wp article, the name also seems to have been used by the Parliament of Finland at the time. So this seems to turn into a question of whether the "I of Finland" suffix is appropriate/relevant. -Ljleppan (talk) 08:28, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. I did some minor research on this topic a year or so ago, and I'm convinced that Kingdom of Finland (1918) should be moved or merged to something like "Attempt to establish a Finnish monarchy" or "Aftermath of the Finnish Civil War". The monarchy was a proposal, but it did not happen, and Finland was never a monarchy (despite the line currently in the lead section about "legally being a monarchy", which I don't believe to really be true). Fredrick Charles never accepted his Kingship of Finland nor even traveled to Finland at the time so his later renunciation of the title was more a "for the record" deal. Even if you accept Finland was a monarchy, they were a monarchy without a king. Lots of people are proposed as monarchs, but they need to actually rule to be monarchs. SnowFire (talk) 15:57, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    With respect, this isn't about whether Finland actually was briefly a monarchy, but whether the name Fredrik Kaarle I of Finland is valid, and therefore justifies the redir. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:09, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 07:06, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tradewinds

If Tradewind is ambiguous—which has been the editorial consensus since 2006—then I think Tradewinds is as well. There's good reason to think that a reader spelling the term this way is looking for one of the eight entities called "Tradewinds" we disambiguate (or the one called TradeWinds), rather than for the concept of trade winds, usually spelled as two words. Thus I think we should retarget to Tradewind. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 05:38, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: (WikiNav still not working.)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 07:04, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Frivolous

This is a common English word which doesn't really look like a likely search term for its current target (why would, of all things which could possibly be frivolous, someone be interested only in lawsuits? why not List of frivolous political parties or maybe even the specific legal jargon Frivolous or vexatious, or maybe just the adjective itself [although WP:NOTDICTIONARY is a thing]), nor a useful redirect to anywhere else either (for the same reasons: short of a soft-redirect to Wiktionary, something not usually done for common English words since we assume readers have at least basic English knowledge, there is no good reason to favour one of the many plausible target articles over the others) RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 02:04, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: A disambiguation draft will help to know if it's feasible.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 07:00, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? (EP)

Confusing: The target article's subject is not an extended play (the subject which the disambiguator "EP" seems to most commonly be used for), nor is there reference to an "EP" subject in the article. Steel1943 (talk) 06:23, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. Having done a lot of investigation into this I'm baffled as to what the "(EP)" is intended to refer to, if it was "Ep" or "ep" then I'd guess it was intended to point to the Only Fools and Horses episode with this title, but that doesn't make sense when the disambiguator is capitalised (and also wouldn't be a good redirect). Thryduulf (talk) 09:04, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This was part of the redirects that I was doing when trying to improve Wikipedia's coverage of UK top 40 singles, think I must have seen this down as an EP rather than single. Basically stopped editing because of the way I was made to feel by other editors. Still so many gaps in the coverage.

https://www.discogs.com/release/1459384-Amoure-Who-Wants-To-Be-A-Millionaire-The-Single?msclkid=e22baa99b03d11ec8640f87a1a29fdd2 03md 15:30, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Genetics and skin disease

Potential WP:XY issue: Genetics and Skin disease represent two distinct topics, and the target article does not seem to represent a combination of the two topics. Steel1943 (talk) 06:10, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pomeranian (dog breed )

Delete per WP:RDAB, considering the space between the final word and the right parenthesis. In addition, the title with the proper spacing, Pomeranian (dog breed), is a redirect targeting the same page as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 05:52, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Empty map

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was withdrawn per Jochen Burghardt's addition since that resolves the concern. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 08:39, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at the target article, leaving the connection between the redirect and the article unclear. Steel1943 (talk) 05:50, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Insider Community Board

Not mentioned in the target article, leaving the connection between the redirect and the article's subject unclear. Steel1943 (talk) 05:20, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Online class

In my opinion, these titles, along with Online learning, mainly refer to Distance education, particularly the recent subset of distance education that is online. I think this might be the primary topic, however, maybe others disagree. Do these terms refer to online technology that may be used while students are physically in a classroom? Is there a difference between the meaning of these terms? —Lights and freedom (talk ~ contribs) 04:03, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Weak target to the DAB, else Target both at Distance education. Happy Editing--IAmChaos 05:22, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

North-South divide in Scotland

This redirect targets a section that has presumably been deleted. There is some discussion of a north-south divide in Scotland in Geography of Scotland#Political Geography so it could be retargeted to that section, not sure if anyone has any better ideas (potentially North-south divide in the United Kingdom but this article seems to discuss a divide between southern England and the rest of the UK, rather than more localised divides within the countries themselves). Bonoahx (talk) 12:31, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Slow Blind Driveway

No mention of this name at the target, nor could searching yield any proof that Gorka ever used this name. Appears to be linked to a long term hoax at WP:LOHOW. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 17:18, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Noting previous RFD: Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 November 19#Slow Blind Driveway.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, plicit 01:02, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects with spacing issues to Naruto character page

Delete all per WP:RDAB. Each of these redirects' properly spaced variants exist and target the same target, respectively (except Hidan(naruto); for that, Hidan (Naruto) with a capital N exists.) Steel1943 (talk) 00:22, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]