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May Women in Red events

Women in Red May 2022, Vol 8, Issue 5, Nos 214, 217, 227, 229, 230


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Ipigott Thank you for your additions April 2022 WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:34, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
And for women's/gender studies. It was a lovely birthday present to have both Botton and Pető‎ show up at DYK today. I am quite happy with 97 articles being created, though admittedly a few seem to not be on topic. There seemed to be confusion that these are academics, that this is an academic field, and that while they might qualify as activists, that activism would include political wrangling to introduce a new academic curricula. Not sure how/if we need to clarify that for next year. Regardless, thank you so much for your help in making it a success. SusunW (talk) 14:19, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I obviously should start by wishing you a very happy birthday, Susun. Thanks for your appreciation and also for all your efforts to encourage us to take gender studies more seriously this year. I certainly tried to add articles based on a fairly strict interpretation of the focus but I sympathize with those who have included more general activists. In my opinion, that does not matter too much. I discovered many more Europeans who could have been covered but it was difficult to find acceptable "secondary" sources without having easy access to relevant publications, etc. Now that interest in the field is increasing, we might find it easier to cover more of those involved in the early development of women/gender studies in the years to come. It would help if we could encourage those working on national biographies such as SKBL to devote more efforts into covering the backgrounds of the many pioneers. From Project Runeberg, there seem to be lots of relevant biographies and archival findings for Denmark and Sweden but they are not readily accessible. It's a pity the national authorities and university research centres are not examining these more closely. Though not devoted to gender studies, my most recent biography on the Swedish opera singer Paula Lizell relies almost exclusively on such sources.--Ipigott (talk) 16:20, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Ian! So far it has been a lovely day. As we discussed previously, I think a big part of this is the era in which they were born/active falls within existing copyright statuses and many of the secondary sources in that period +/-1930s-1990s have not been digitized. Obviously, it is one of the reasons I stress newspaper archives, because often they are the available best source. Would that we could convince archivist and academics to work on these pioneers, but we do what we can. I am happy for you that you have discovered this archive for opera singers, as I do think we do our best work when the topic is one that we generally are interested in. SusunW (talk) 16:44, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
SusunW: These archives are not just for opera singers but cover a wide variety of (men and) women who have been active over the years. As always, actresses are covered in some detail but all the other women listed need to be explored. I just gave Lizell as an example of how many women have been forgotten (compared to men) in nationally supported biographies. For example, Paula Lizell is only mentioned "en passant" in Lizell, släkt. --Ipigott (talk) 18:46, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Doodiebey (21:14, 1 May 2022)

Hi - my dad is David Wiltshire who wrote the Nightmare Man. I would like to add some more information about him and his other published work but not sure where to start. Any advice would be helpful, thanks 😊 --Doodiebey (talk) 21:14, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, Doodiebey, and welcome to Wikipedia. I'm sorry to have to disappoint you but Wikipedia strongly discourages additions to articles by people closely connected to the subject. In this connection, see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. If you want to contribute, I suggest you start working on another topic. You¨ll see I've included some links on your talk page which should help you to get started. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 05:34, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Geneviève Aclocque

Greetings.!

I have included some information in Draft:Geneviève Aclocque, from the reliable sources, which is in WiR list. This is to seek your guidance to move the draft to Article space. Thank you.! With kind regards,Thirukannan (talk) 14:03, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, Thirukannan, and thank you for creating the draft. It looks to me as if the article could be moved to article space now unless you wish to include more details from the French version. Before I do so, I think you should include an edit summary which explains that you have translated details from the French version of the article. In this connection, see Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. Thanks also for the other biographies of women you have been creating.--Ipigott (talk) 16:10, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for the prompt response. The sources of information that I had included are the books and journal, given as references. I haven't translated any information from the French version. The image and few other basic details were added by other editors. Therefore,I think it can be moved to article space. Thanks & regards, Thirukannan (talk) 16:28, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thirukannan: Looks good. I've linked it to the FR article (see LH margin) and included Aclocque in List of French women writers (otherwise it would have been an orphan). I've included a translation tag on the talk page as even if you did not translate anything, other editors have added details from the French and Earwig's Copyvio Detector shows similarities with the French article. Please let me know if ever I can be of further assistance. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 06:30, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much for your guidance and support.! So kind of you for extending further support.! Thanks & regards, Thirukannan (talk) 11:53, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Carbroombroom (15:08, 2 May 2022)

Are sentences like "X is the best of Y because Z" too opinionated? I rephrased one in my most recent edit because it didn't seem correct to be on Wikipedia. --Carbroombroom (talk) 15:08, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, Carbroombroom, and welcome to Wikipedia. Your copy-edit on Kali Linux is certainly an improvement but the statements made need to be backed by a reliable source. You'll see I have left some links on your talk page which should help you to gain experience in Wikipedia editing. Please let me know if you run into any difficulties. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 15:26, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

May songs

May songs

Thank you for using the great images about great women for articles in English! - I have the quirky DYK today, which is rare, and I don't quite know why music for peace was deemed quirky. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:54, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda Arendt: Certainly not quirky for me. It's good to see that unlike me you are also writing about deserving gentlemen.--Ipigott (talk) 13:59, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
today performances in Ukraine - for Ukraine - for peace, at the bottom an imaginary set of eight DYK - and more May pics--Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:18, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda Arendt: There's another Swedish opera singer you might be interested in: Anna Maria Klemming, who died when only 25.--Ipigott (talk) 15:50, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for adding her! I did what I could, but again, as all sources are in Swedish, I won't nominate for DYK. You could do that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:05, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for adding Ladislaja Harnoncourt to WiR DYK. What do you think of the tag? Sure, I created "her" in a bit of defiance, because I found it unfair that only male family members have an article, four males who wouldn't have become what the are/were without her educating them, and nothing yet of the daughters. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:25, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda Arendt: I think the tag is ridiculous but I don't want to cause any upsets by removing it at this stage. I was hoping some other experienced editor would delete it given the substantial number of sources included.--Ipigott (talk) 09:33, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It seems that many think the same. There's also a "discussion" on the talk. By now, some hundred people must have seen the article, with tag and without. Formally, it's correct, of course but we have IAR for the unusual cases. We must have thousands of articles about less influential women. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:58, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

today Melody (not by me), and more pics, and I created an article about a woman who played Melody. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:00, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

my choir in Idstein performed an evensong (pictured), two years and two months after the last! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:47, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Always good to have your news, Gerda Arendt. Thanks for your help with Magna Lykseth-Skogman. Adam Cuerden should be happy to see another of his improved images on the main page. My most recent Scandinavian opera singers are Davida Hesse-Lilienberg, Hedevig Quiding and Louise Sahlgreen but I don't think any of them are prominent enough for DYKs.--Ipigott (talk) 06:21, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
thank you, especially for today's a strong woman - will look at the others later--Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:03, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I like my talk today (actually mostly from 29 May - I took the title pic), enjoy the music, two related videos worth watching! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:47, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

archiving

You kind of archived the discussions we were having. Anything else to say? Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.8% of all FPs 19:49, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Cuerden: Over the years I've been criticized for not archiving my talk pages but I agree with you that it's difficult to know when to make a break. I'll try to restore recent discussions below.--Ipigott (talk) 20:24, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry to complain, just a few of the bits you archived we were mid discussion. It's my fault for putting them under the header for Magna Lyskell-Skogren. I'm sure I've messed that up.
Achhh. Just got done venting at the Wikicup for losing sight of the entire purpose of the bloody competition. Do feel kind of sad about it, though: MILHIST and OPERA are fairly quiet, at least when I comment, so that basically leaves WP:FPC and WP:WIRED as basically the only places on this bloody site that I feel any sense of community anymore. Should try to get an invite to the virtual Wikimania or something, before I burn out on Wikipedia again. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.8% of all FPs 20:30, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Adam Cuerden: I sympathize with your frustration but don't give up.--Ipigott (talk) 20:37, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lilly Walleni

I think there's two stand-out images for her - the Daria and the Navarraisse in the article at present. Which do you like better? I think the Navarraise is the stronger expression - can't dislike a good mad scene - but the kneeling gives an odd look to her lower body in the dress. The Daria is a better generic image, but no-one performs (or even writes articles on) Daria - it's by Georges Marty - anymore. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.7% of all FPs 20:34, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Adam Cuerden: The Daria image is really impressive. I don't think it matters too much that the opera is no longer performed. The quality of the image is already good. Do you think you will be able to enhance it further?--Ipigott (talk) 05:47, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Would you like me to make a list of the artists depicted in the archives we have? Might be some good ones. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.7% of all FPs 03:27, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Adam Cuerden: Thanks. Looks good. I think such a list would be of interest to all the contributors to Women in Red. If you draw one up, I suggest you post it there but if you find any other opera singers, please let me know.--Ipigott (talk) 05:43, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Black_and_white_photographs_of_performers_at_Kungliga_operan has most of them. Some amazing costumes in there, though the men have more fun ones on the whole. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.7% of all FPs 11:40, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm using number of photos as a proxy, but Magna Lykseth seems to have a notably high number of operas under her belt. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.7% of all FPs 11:46, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Cuerden: Lykseth looks good. I've found a good biographical source here. Which image(s) would you like to work on?--Ipigott (talk) 15:14, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. I've reviewed. If we presume File:Magna Lykseth, opera singer, undated portrait - SMV - GL173.tif is her natural hair, and that some very unnatural hair in some of them are wigs, then we can eliminate a few possibilities, and I don't like the fade at the bottom in that one.. File:Magna Lykseth in Tosca at Kungliga Operan 1912 - SMV - GL170.tif is an amazing pose, but the amount of damage on the face concerns me, so let's leave that for a secondary image. File:Magna Lykseth in Valkyrian at Kungliga Operan 1902 - SMV - GL157.tif has a lot of glow from the shield, but great costume. But there's one standout: not too damaged, closeup, good pose:
  • In Tristan und Isolde
    In Tristan und Isolde
  • After restoration
    After restoration

Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.7% of all FPs 15:24, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Cuerden: Let's go for Tristan. She was noted for her Wagnerian roles and it would be more suitable for illustrating her biography. She is also remembered for Tosca if you feel like working on that one too. I'll see if I can put something together tomorrow.--Ipigott (talk) 15:32, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I added some more details in edits, but, yeah, I think the Tristan is the standout, and also the least damaged of the good-quality images, which is nice. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.7% of all FPs 15:35, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This is very rough still, but File:Magna Lykseth in Tristan och Isolde at Kungliga Operan 1909 - SMV - GL164.jpg is a start finish. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.7% of all FPs 16:23, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Great improvement!--Ipigott (talk) 20:06, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If it helps, no:Magna Lykseth-Skogman seems the better of the two, and I speak a little Norwegian. Not much, but.... Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.7% of all FPs 20:40, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's how it looked to me too but the German biography I mentioned above is even better. When I "translate" articles from other Wikipedia versions, I hardly ever present a word-for-word translation. I look at the sources used in the existing articles and try to find new ones. I then write a new biography in the usual way, although many of the basic facts many closely resemble those in other versions. There are quite a few Danish/Norwegian words in Scottish. I come from Newcastle where the local dialect, including the pronounciation, draws heavily on the influence of Scandinavian sailors but my own fluency is mainly thanks to my wife who is Danish.--Ipigott (talk) 05:47, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think I just pick it up by way of having chosen as a teenager the most useless second language to become fluent in: Middle English by way of Sir Gawaine and the Green Knight. But if you're in Newcastle, let me know if you're ever up in Edinburgh. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.7% of all FPs 07:16, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, but I have no plans to return to Newcastle. I no longer have any relatives or friends there. From time to time we travel to London for the theatres, exhibitons, etc., but otherwise we keep to continental Europe.--Ipigott (talk) 08:40, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Understood! Ah, well. Just Would be nice to talk shop, y'know? Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.7% of all FPs 08:48, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Magna Lykseth-Skogman

Would you rather have the whole newspaper page? THAT should probably be strictly en-wiki only.

Adam Cuerden: I've made a start on this. As I don't think I'll have much more time to work on it today, you might like to add your image(s). I noted by the way that your Tristan image now appears twice in the Norwegian article.--Ipigott (talk) 11:59, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like I'll have to renominate her later. I have like 5 images on 4 supports, and it's not looking likely that's going to get fixed in time for her. This happens sometimes. Featured picture candidates sometimes just breaks. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.8% of all FPs 19:42, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I've extracted the Agnes Janson image, just want to wait to make sure we get consensus. Have a vague idea you asked me about something else, but I can't find it. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.8% of all FPs 20:29, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Cuerden: Glad to hear you are making progress with Agnes Janson. From the discussion on the WiR talk page, there seems to be agreement on the photographer. The other images I have mentioned: Liva Järnefelt which I've cropped as it's nominated for DYK, and Paula Lizell which still needs attention. Perhaps I should just crop that one too?--Ipigott (talk) 07:56, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Give me a moment. Uploading Janson. Think I'm going to upload it locally, and then on Commons, because it's completely indisputably out of copyright in the US, and I could see Commons questioning the attribution at some point, although it seems pretty certain. Might hold off on nominating thigns for FPC for a little bit until things start passing, though. Looking like I'm going to have a whole raft of nominations fail, starting with Lykseth-Skogman. Cropsey is in no better shape, Il trovatore in worse shape, Carney at least has time to get the fifth, and Brannan isn't even getting voted on. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.8% of all FPs 11:35, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Paula Lizell

Let's talk Lizell images. Here's ones I feel are a little more interesting:

The one in the article is fine, but these kind of show off her acting. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.8% of all FPs 12:05, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Cuerden: It seems to me that the first one would be good for the opera but less suitable for the biography. We could of course always include additional images in the biographies. But please go ahead with your own preferences which up to now have been pretty successful. I really don't want to cause any problems and am glad to see old Swedish opera singers are attracting new interest.--Ipigott (talk) 13:46, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Might try to do both. Just need to make sure the one nominated is first. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.8% of all FPs 15:21, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'll not get into Walleni much because it relies too much on just some awards, images, and a bio in Swedish, - no DYK. Thanks for the efforts: great image work! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:50, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda Arendt: At least we now have a great image of Walleni which some day might appear on the main page. With all her German connections, it's strange she's not in the GSL bible.--Ipigott (talk) 13:00, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Gerda Arendt: Actually, it's featured here, so it will appear on the main page barring the site dying or POTD changing how it works. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.8% of all FPs 23:56, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. Little work to try and get rid of a couple things from 2013 that were bothering me by being unfinished for so long, and back to the grindstone. I think I'll do two for her, because, let's face it, having a link to the opera singer from an opera page helps draw people in, so I think having that image of her performing adds value. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.8% of all FPs 15:56, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Liva Järnefelt

Let's look at images for her while we're at it. I'd say File:Liva Järnefelt in Carmen at Kungliga Operan 1914 - SMV - GJ052.tif is probably the easiest to restore. I also think we could probably do decent things with File:Liva Järnefelt, opera singer - SMV - NJ025.tif. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.8% of all FPs 12:15, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Cuerden: I like the Carmen image too but the second one would be more suitable for the biography.--Ipigott (talk) 13:48, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'll have to fix the chin. Look at it full-resolution, lower left hand side. I don't mind this when it's a fairly small thing to bring out some detail - hell, I carefully fixed some of it on Walleni - but it's pretty badly done here. And it's a bad example of scaleface, which is either an aftereffect of editing, or just what happens to photos in the lighter areas. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.8% of all FPs 21:16, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of List of women innovators and inventors by country for deletion

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Beeblebrox (talk) 23:11, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Magna Lykseth-Skogman

Something is terribly off with her infobox, which marks her as a Ukranian/ Soviet born in 1983. I'll ping @Gerda Arendt: as well. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.8% of all FPs 17:08, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Cuerden: Well spotted. I don't add boxes myself as I try to include essential into in my leads. As far as I can see, the errors have been corrected. Copy and paste is a constant source of issues in connection with biographies. Thanks for your constant attention to detail.--Ipigott (talk) 20:51, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

On which subject, I think I grabbed an appropriate day for Commons' POTD. Ideally let's not use the same on en-wiki. commons:Template:Potd/2024-02#6 Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.8% of all FPs 23:53, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Image of Mary McGeachy

Greetings.!

From WiR list, I have created an article Mary McGeachy without image. This is to seek your guidance on how to use an image which is found in a book. Thank you for your valuable time.! Thanks & regards, Thirukannan (talk) 11:48, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thirukannan You need to provide more information before anyone can answer the question. Is the author of the photograph identified? If yes, when did that person die. When and where was the book published? Copyright depends the laws of the country of first publication, so without knowing who made it and where the question is unanswerable. Because copyright extends from the date of publication or the date of death of the maker, when must also be known. SusunW (talk) 15:32, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Greetings.!
Thank you so much for the response and guidance. Apologize for the incomplete information. I will try to learn more about it. The book is Women of the World: The Rise of the Female Diplomat , written by Helen McCarthy. This was published by A&C Black, London in 2014. This book is given as one of the references in the article. Thanks & regards, Thirukannan (talk) 16:17, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thirukannan A photograph published in 2014 is typically not one that is free from copyright control. In the US and UK, 70 years after it was first published or 70 years after the death of the author is the general rule of thumb. From you description, I am assuming that you are speaking of the photograph that says "at her desk in the Washington Embassy in 1942"? I cannot read the photocredit on the side of the picture. If the photograph was published in the US in 1942 and the author is unknown and it did not have a copyright mark, or the author was the US government, it might be copyright free. If it was first published in the UK, it would not be copyright free until 2037. (See US rules here. Give me some time and I will try to research it's background. SusunW (talk) 18:33, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thirukannan so as not to take up Ian's talk page, I'm going to answer you on the article talk page. SusunW (talk) 20:37, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Great efforts. Thank you so much.! Thirukannan (talk) 09:23, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@GRuban and SusunW: Tremendous works done there in Mary McGeachy in uploading a copyright free image.! Thank you all.!Thirukannan (talk) 08:07, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Glad to be able to help. Please feel free to ask if you need help again. I am happy to try to assist. SusunW (talk) 13:06, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Shakuntala Atre

I took your comment "...the article needs to be expanded" to heart. I concur that the article should be kept and have expanded it as I could. But, I am not qualified to discuss her work other than in the briefest general manner. This and this describe what she wrote about and I know computing was your thing. Any chance you could give a brief overview of her work? If you are too busy, I certainly understand, but maybe another page visitor will have the skill to write about technology. SusunW (talk) 15:37, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

SusunW: Thanks for expanding it into such an interesting article. I'll have to be more careful about comments relating to expansion. I'm rather busy today but I'll look through it tomorrow.--Ipigott (talk) 15:45, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
As you can. I am confident it will now be kept. SusunW (talk) 15:56, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
SusunW. I really appreciate the effort you have put into this. I've now looked through it quite carefully and see no need for further editing at this stage. You've certainly brought out her major contributions in sufficient detail. Maybe sooner or later someone (not you) can research what she has been doing for the past 20 years. I seem to have been caught up in quite a number of unexpected discussions and assignments this month and feel I should now try to get back to covering more Scandinavians, possibly in connection with our translation contest which unfortunately seems to be attracting less interest this month.--Ipigott (talk) 07:45, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ipigott Thank you. Yes, someone not me. I do appreciate you taking the time to look at it, as I wasn't sure I had written it well enough. Not my area of expertise and I am fairly sure we all know I wouldn't have written on a technology person. But, I felt that the sources found in the AfD were adequate to make the point that her notability was established and it really needed to be expanded. Have fun with your Scandinavians. SusunW (talk) 13:09, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
SusunW: Scandinavians are always fun. One of these days, I might look into just how many articles I've written about Scandinavia and Finland (officially regarded as a "Nordic" rather than a Scandinavian country), not just women's biographies but everything else. I'm rather upset about Finland joining NATO. I have always admired their neutrality and their support of culture from both East and West. Ditto Sweden and Switzerland. Let's hope their concern for defence will not go any upset things any further.--Ipigott (talk) 15:45, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's similar to one of the reasons I enjoy the Caribbean. They are small and often relationships overlap so writing about one person or event brings in new people and levels of interconnectedness. Unfortunately, I was not surprised by the decision, because neutrality is often compromised when safety becomes a concern. With the recent developments on Roe, I question my own stance that it is a private matter and am moving closer to the position that rights must be codified to be guaranteed. SusunW (talk) 16:17, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Food for thought.--Ipigott (talk) 17:26, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Do you know we're mentioned in a newsletter? Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.8% of all FPs 15:54, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Great job guys! Nice piece recognizing your collaboration. Thanks for sharing it. SusunW (talk) 16:18, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I see we can thank Axel Pettersson (WMSE) for this. He may be interested to see we've been working together on several other Swedish opera singers, including Magna Lykseth-Skogman, Paula Lizell, Liva Järnefelt, Anna Oscàr and Anna Bartels. I've recently been writing about Anna Maria Klemming and Maria Gelhaar where there are also opportunities for image improvement. After I've completed work on the singers, I hope we can collaborate on some of the outstanding dancers from the Royal Swedish Ballet (also featured in images from the Swedish Performing Arts Agency).--Ipigott (talk) 08:32, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for all the great work you do with images! I'm adding @Alicia Fagerving (WMSE) here also as the writer of that part of the newsletter and mastermind behind the uploads. Also pinging @MTL-David who works at the Swedish Performing Arts Agency and is our partner in making sure we can upload images and media files to Commons. /Axel Pettersson (WMSE) (talk) 08:55, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi again @Adam Cuerden and @Ipigott. Yesterday I talked to David as we plan to do another upload of images this fall. Without any promises they'd be happy to look into requests and wishes from your side when it comes to what collections and material should be prioritized in their database. Let me know here, or add it to their Commons talk page if you have any dream material. We also talked about their policy on adding visibility to the improved material by linking from their database, but they need to let it sink in and think about it first. /Axel Pettersson (WMSE) (talk) 09:37, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Axel Pettersson (WMSE): Thanks for getting back to us on this. For my own part, I am most interested in creating articles about Swedish women of historical interest who are adequately covered in reliable sources, whether these are in Swedish or in other languages. That explains why I was able to write about a number of opera singers associated with the Royal Theatre in Stockholm. Unfortunately, while some of the photographs of dancers were also impressive, it was difficult to find sufficient biographical information about them to create articles of at least Start Class quality. May I suggest more time could be devoted to adding meaningful subcategories to Commons category Media_from_the_Swedish_Performing_Arts_Agency as it is difficult to obtain a meaningful overview of what has been added to date. Perhaps your colleagues at WMF Sweden could help with this. If there are portraits of notable composers, musicians, painters or writers, it would be interesting to be able to find them more easily on the basis of category searches. Maybe searches based on multiple categories are already possible but I don't know how to handle these on Commons. Maybe Eric Luth (WMSE) would be able to provide some assistance in this connection by preparing Wikidata listings based on the images provided by the Swedish Performing Arts Agency. Also of interest, would be images in connection with women covered in the Svenskt kvinnobiografiskt lexikon. We already have this Women in Red Wikidata list but there is no indication of which articles are supported by SMV images. There may of course well be more suggestions from other contributors.--Ipigott (talk) 12:05, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Education is strength (06:32, 14 May 2022)

How I can create a sandbox? --Education is strength (talk) 06:32, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Education is strength: Welcome to Wikipedia. Just click on "sandbox" at the top of the page. Or click on user:Education is strength/sandbox. Please let me know if you run into any difficulties.--Ipigott (talk) 08:15, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from NicitaX (01:16, 15 May 2022)

Hello :) --NicitaX (talk) 01:16, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Nicitax, and welcome to Wikipedia. You'll see I've left some useful links on your talk page. Please let me know if you run into any difficulties. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 06:20, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Little off-topic, but...

If you wouldn't mind glancing over Södermanland Runic Inscription 113, I'd appreciate it. Trying to help out the Wikipedia celebrations of International Museum Day a bit. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.8% of all FPs 01:21, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Cuerden: Looks great! I've just made a few minor copy edits. Much better than the articles in Swedish and German. While I'm here, could you take a look at Template:Did you know nominations/Paula Lizell and replace the image with the one you have substituted on Paula Lizell.--Ipigott (talk) 06:51, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Will do! Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.8% of all FPs 18:52, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yu Shan (Q10887863)

Greetings.! I got a problem in WiR list, which seems more complicated than the one I had earlier. I created an article Yu Shan (Q10887863) for Yu Shan, an actress from China from WiR list but later found one article Yu Shan (actress) on the same subject, which had translation from Chinese language. This is to seek your guidance on the options available. Shall I transfer the information that I have collected to the Yu Shan (actress), then the new one that I had created can be deleted.? or is there any other option? Thank you for your valuable time.! Thanks & regards, Thirukannan (talk) 21:59, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid, Thirukannan, that your only option is to add the interesting new details and references you have found to the existing article which was created in March. Our redlists are only for guidance. You should always carefully search Wikipedia for an existing article before you start a new one. It is not appropriate to use the Wikidata Q number in the Wikipedia article name. Also, please note that she was apparently born in China (not Japan) and that her family name is Yu (not Shan). Please let me know if you run into any difficulties in editing the existing article and I'll try to help you along. Once the details have been added, your new article should be deleted. For the time being, I've moved it to Draft:Yu Shan (Q10887863). I'm glad to see you are making good progress with editing and have already created Heloísa Alberto Torres and Hannah Packard James. Keep up the good work.--Ipigott (talk) 06:14, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much for your encouraging words. In fact I simply assumed that the 'red' means there is no article on that subject. I realize the mistake. I will carefully check if there is any article on that subject in similar name or related one. I accept the comments. I am really surprised how that Wikidata Q came along with the title.! Thanks & regards, Thirukannan (talk) 10:25, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thirukannan: The Wikidata Q number sometimes appears in redlists to identify an article when abother article has been created with the same name. in this case the mountain Yu Shan. Otherwise it would not be included on the redlist.--Ipigott (talk) 15:03, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much. It is another learning experience for me. Now I have updated Yu Shan (actress) with the information I had collected from the reliable sources, without disturbing the main content. Kindly consider to delete the Draft:Yu Shan (Q10887863).! Thanks & regards, Thirukannan (talk) 15:23, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thirukannan: Thanks for your efforts on this. Draft and draft talk already deleted.--Ipigott (talk) 15:28, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rene Rechtman

Hi Ian, my name is Eloise. Very nice to meet you. I noticed that you are a member of WP:DENMARK and thought you might be willing to look at my draft for René Rechtman, a Danish entrepreneur and the founder and CEO of Moonbug Entertainment. If you think the article is ready to be included on Wikipedia, please feel free to move it to mainspace. If not, I welcome your feedback. Thanks for your help! Eloise Moonbug (talk) 09:40, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, Eloise Moonbug. Thanks for getting in touch. I see from your user page that you are being paid for this article. In accordance with Paid editors, you should clearly state your paid involvement on the article's talk page. Once you do so, I will then look more closely at the draft but I am not happy about following up on numerous future requests for updates such as those in connection with Talk:Moonbug Entertainment. Please also check whether the spelling should be René or Renè.--Ipigott (talk) 15:59, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ipigott, thanks for getting back to me! I've disclosed on the draft's Talk page now as well. I appreciate you taking the time to look at my draft, and I won't come to you with any future requests, should they come up. As for the spelling- thank you for pointing that out! The correct spelling is René. Looking forward to your feedback, Eloise Moonbug (talk) 13:23, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Eloise Moonbug: I'm really surprised that after my comments above, you did not take the trouble to correct at least two cases of misspelling the subject's name in your draft. I would have thought it was one of the most important items for a paid editor to get right. It's too easy to rely on volunteers to correct substandard work.--Ipigott (talk) 15:33, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ian, you're absolutely right, my apologies! I was focused on the disclosure on the Talk page, and completely forgot about the spelling issue. I've fixed both now. Thanks again. Eloise Moonbug (talk) 10:42, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Eloise Moonbug. Not many of my Wikipedia collaborators are happy about how often I assist paid editors. I nevertheless try to help all those whose contributions could improve the encyclopedia. In your particular case, I saw that you tried to encourage several other editors to move your article to article space without success. I offered assistance but you not only failed to respond to my spelling recommendations but did not respond to me for five days. I'll nevertheless take a new look at the article tomorrow. I don't know how much you are being paid for such simply assignments but I would suggest you become more responsive to any future suggestions.--Ipigott (talk) 17:10, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Yu Shan (Q10887863)

A tag has been placed on Yu Shan (Q10887863) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section R2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect from the article namespace to a different namespace except the Category, Template, Wikipedia, Help, or Portal namespaces.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Fram (talk) 15:36, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Nadja1968 on User:Nadja1968/Diane Esmond (19:41, 16 May 2022)

Dear Ipigott, I hope you are well! I am pretty much done with this entry; please check it. The images are being reviewed at Wikimedia commons, but should be approved shortly. If you have comments or suggestions, please let me know! Thank you, Nadja1968 ˜˜˜˜ --Nadja1968 (talk) 19:41, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nadja1968: Good to see such progress. I'll look at the article more carefully tomorrow.--Ipigott (talk) 21:20, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nadja1968: As I said above, you are making good progress with this biography. The details of her life and work are well presented and you list many pertinent sources.

There nevertheless seem to be a few problems. I see you uploaded the three images yourself but without giving licenses. They are therefore likely to be deleted within a week. I don't know what you mean by "the images are being reviewed at commons" but I await further details.

There do not appear to be any serious copyright violations although similarities with Diane Esmond on 1st Dibs were detected. If you used this as a source, you should include a reference. I see you cite many newspaper articles in your bibliography. It would be interesting to know where you found these. Do you have copies or are they cited in other sources? If so, it would be good to include them as references.

I suppose you have access to the books you have used as sources. They seem to be correctly presented.

You still need to include a "lead" to the article, i.e. a summary of the main aspects of her life and work as an introduction.

I would like to review progress, especially on the images, over the next week. If all goes well, it should then be possible to move the article to main space.--Ipigott (talk) 06:38, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Nadja1968 on User:Nadja1968/Diane Esmond (16:52, 17 May 2022)

Hi Ipigott, Thank you so much for your feedback and help! I've added an introductory paragraph and also several references (I found these with the help of the Fine Arts Librarian at Harvard, so I do have copies). I did not use the website "First Dibs" as a source, and I have removed it to avoid confusion. The three images should appear soon in the Wikimedia Commons, although it might take a few days. I'll check back with you when I have a definite answer. Best, ˜˜˜˜ --Nadja1968 (talk) 16:52, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nadja1968: It's good to hear you are being assisted by a Harvard librarian. Thanks for the improvements but I'm still worried about the images, especially the paintings. Let's see how it goes.--Ipigott (talk) 20:56, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Nadja1968 on User:Nadja1968/Diane Esmond (12:30, 19 May 2022)

Hi Ipigott, I have heard from Wikimedia commons that the three images have been added to the file page. Please look over the Diane Esmond draft, and, if there are no more concerns, please add this entry to Wikipedia. Thank you so much for your help! ˜˜˜˜ --Nadja1968 (talk) 12:30, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nadja1968: Thank you for all the effort you have put into this. I was happy to see the image copyright issues have been resolved. The two paintings do much to enhance the article and might now be included in other articles on Impressionism and Post-Impressionism. I've moved the biography to article space where it has already been approved for general access. I've linked Esmond from List of French women artists and from the article on Édouard Georges Mac-Avoy. You might find it useful to include links from other pages. If you run into any difficulties, please let me know. If you intend to write more articles about women, you might be interested in becoming a member of WP:Women in Red where we are trying to give more prominence to women on Wikipedia. Please drop me a line if you ever need further assistance. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 14:22, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

May interest you

Jutland Movement hasn't been touched since 2017, and is very bare-bones. Because of your interest in Denmark -- and you created Marie Bregendahl! -- you may find it interesting. From what I'm seeing, it seems like a notable literary movement, but I can't translate with enough accuracy to edit for sure. Urve (talk) 22:07, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. It's not a very significant movement but I can take a quick look. My interest is in writing biographies of Danish women rather than covering related historical developments. It looks to me as if the article may well have been created to cover a red link back in 2013. You can find more background in Modern Breakthrough which I have added under "See also".--Ipigott (talk) 05:50, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting, thanks! I'll do some reading. No pressure - I just thought of you when I came across it, and Bregendahl being linked there is a nice personal touch. There are many of these tiny literary movements, often not very significant, that might help us better understand the social atmosphere of writers we are interested in. I've requested a few papers through ILL for Créolie and other historical movements, hopefully to write about more women :) Urve (talk) 11:54, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Feminism and Folklore 2022 - Local prize winners

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DYK for Magna Lykseth-Skogman

On 25 May 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Magna Lykseth-Skogman, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Magna Lykseth appeared as Isolde (pictured) when Wagner's Tristan und Isolde was first performed at the Royal Swedish Opera in 1909? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Magna Lykseth-Skogman. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Magna Lykseth-Skogman), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for calling me wonderful. I agree, Mariah Harned has made impressive progress so far. I was wondering, though, if you were aware of any resources that teach people basic wikimarkup? I intend to be as interactive as possible with the mentees that the mentor dashboard assigns to me, but it might be useful to have a page that teaches the basics of Wikipedia editing if there isn't already one. Most of the newcomer resources I'm aware of teach people about things like the five pillars. While that's important, not being familiar with how to edit here is a potential obstacle to people contributing.

By the way, you helped inspire me to start working on something that's related to that WIR again at Draft:Toponym'elles. I think it could still use a lot of work, but I think it's a notable topic. It isn't a biography, but it's about toponymic representation of women in Montreal. I thought you might find that interesting since your userpage says you used to live there. If you see any issues or want to help me out with it, feel free to edit it. There's a redlink in the draft for Monique Fitz-Back so there's a possible article there, too. Clovermoss (talk) 01:19, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Clovermoss: While I prefer encouraging new users to use the links on the standard welcome page and often recommend The Wikipedia Adventure, there are a number of videos which cover basic to editing, for example How to edit Wikipedia or Introduction to Wikipedia editing. In connection with Draft:Toponym'elles, it looks to me as if the article could be moved to article space. It would be useful to draw up a red list of women's street names not already included in the English Wikipedia. Many other cities have launched similar initiatives, for example Copenhagen. As I left Montreal in 1972, I think any further work on the article or related biographies could be handled better by those who are more familiar with recent developments. Please keep in touch and let me know if I can be of any further assistance.--Ipigott (talk) 06:38, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your response. I think that the draft could be moved to mainspace but I usually like to draft things a little bit more before I do so. I'm autopatrolled so people see things immediately. I'd need to add categories, preferably expand it a bit more, etc. I was just offering in case you were interested in improving it or if there was some glaring issue that I somehow didn't notice. I sometimes worry that I'm missing something crucial and no one's told me, so I'm always open to feedback like that. 1972 is a long time. Wow. I'm 19 so I don't really have any base of comparison.
The drafted article will likely be in much better shape in a few days, which is likely when I will move it to mainspace. Thanks for letting me know about another city that has a similar initative as I find all of this to be fascinating. Thank you for the video links. I think that visual aids are something that's more useful in a scenerio like this compared to text. I was still planning to welcome people the typical way, maybe leave a personal note, answer any questions, etc. I was mainly looking for resources like this in case someone is confused and wants to learn editing basics because it's easier to show and not tell when it comes to wikimarkup. Clovermoss (talk) 12:10, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Yousujan4 (05:13, 27 May 2022)

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Hi there, Yousujan4, and welcome to Wikipedia. I'm afraid I don't understand your question but you will see I have added some useful links under "Welcome" on your talk page. Please let me know if you run into further difficulties.--Ipigott (talk) 06:09, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Elsa Jernås

Hello @Ipigott,

I just submitted my first AfC draft on a Woman Artist that I found on the WIR index, Elsa Jernås, I was wondering if you could take a look and let me know what you think? It proved difficult for me to find additional citations beyond what was linked on her Swedish page -- I found only one but it's most of a passing mention in an article about her husband. But I was able to put something together with the help of Google translate. SleepyWhippet (talk) 07:59, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This morning I qualified for access to Wikipedia Library and was able to also find and add this citation: https://www-degruyter-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/database/AKL/entry/_40611507/html SleepyWhippet (talk) 15:44, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

June events from Women in Red

Women in Red June 2022, Vol 8, Issue 6, Nos 214, 217, 227, 231, 232, 233


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I am happy to be working on women

I haven't abandoned the nationality articles, but I have to take a break from it. In that regard, I've worked up two articles, Grace Voss Frederick and Pat Gozemba that I am trying to nominate for GA for their environmental initiative. I have asked GRuban to confirm that photos I found can be used (I've researched and I think so, but am unsure because it's that pre-1977 era). At any rate, if you have time and inclination, could you give them a copyedit? If you don't have interest, or are too busy, no worries. Thank you for all you do for WiR and me. I appreciate you. SusunW (talk) 13:49, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

SusunW: I'll gladly take a closer look at both of them in next day or two as time permits.--Ipigott (talk) 13:59, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! SusunW (talk) 14:00, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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