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Good rename

Thanks for doing the page move, @Defacto - as I've said above, "dispute" overstates the issue so I support what you've done. My concern now though is that, judging by titles alone, there's not much difference between this subject and Terminology of the British Isles. In content though, they are quite different.

The Terminology article is a mixed bag. It seems to start off as a "list of terms related to the British Isles" and turns into fully fledged prose later on.

My view is the prose bits from these two articles should be merged together, leaving a detailed long-form article and a simple, concise terminology list. WaggersTALK 09:37, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(Personal attack removed) It is a DISPUTE. A PhD in History (talk) 17:56, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I guess you disagree? I have removed your personal attack because it is not helpful in the discussion. The Banner talk 18:17, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is a dispute.

This should be changed back to being a dispute. The Irish government literally disputes its use. 2001:BB6:502B:F600:D9C1:5810:E4E0:AF02 (talk) 09:49, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Agree HardCopy (talk) 12:06, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Agree --Lucky102 (talk) 14:38, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, the current title is completely nonsensical and provides no useful information to the reader from the title alone. Since the article is focused on a dispute over what to call the British Isles why would there ever be an issues naming it 'British Isles naming disupute'? As it currently stands the title could mean absolutely anything.Dubarr18 (talk) 15:03, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Should there be a new page about this talk page called British Isles naming dispute dispute? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.91.18.92 (talk) 10:32, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is only rather recently moved to this name. Beside that, the article is about a geographical entity, not a political. And we follow the common use of a name for geographical entities, not a desired political name. The Banner talk 12:29, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The name "British Isles" was coined when Ireland was under colonial rule. Since the Republic of Ireland is no longer under colonial rule, this name no longer applies.
As it was formed during a time if political repression, it will never be able to exist as just a geographical name.
The name is disputed by the Irish government and this is making a mockery of what Wikipedia is intended to be. 213.7.150.148 (talk) 14:15, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Please read the article and the history of the name and you'll see this isn't the case. Additionally if you wish it to no longer be used I suggest contacting the Irish government and ask them to stop their internal usage of it which is used by various departments in reports (and yes includes Ireland in that definition.) Just because a couple of politicians have said they don't use it, doesn't mean the entire government doesn't use it. Even RTE uses it. A lot of people complain that it's not used by the government or people in Ireland when it actually is. What they mean is they don't like it. Canterbury Tail talk 14:32, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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