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Fix a typo: Change “Assassinations of Caesar” to “Assassination of Caesar” Elbuod (talk) 07:22, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done - FlightTime (open channel) 07:55, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

enjoy guys... 110.37.39.207 (talk) 09:28, 19 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's all junked up somebody please fix Platinum6363 (talk) 21:06, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Changes to lead section prose

This is to alert User:Zagreus99 that you are engaged in Wikipedia:edit warring over the article's prose in the lead section, after being repeatedly asked in edit summaries to first discuss changes here on the talk page. This is one of our encyclopedia's Wikipedia:Featured articles, meaning it has already been vetted by the community for quality content and prose writing. Please do not edit the article further without discussing significant changes here, especially when introducing terms that are not common in English, such as the word "effectuate" in a context where it is not commonly used and does not make sense. Most people who read English Wikipedia will struggle to understand why that word is used there; for that matter it is not used properly. What you have done is not a drastic improvement of the prose. Regards, Pericles of Athens^Talk 23:40, 24 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to these changes being largely unnecessary, you have also incorrectly used a hyphen for a sentence break instead of an em dash ("—"), which contrasts with the rest of the article and goes against the basic guidelines in the WP:MOS. As noted on your talk page, I have alerted the Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring about your behavior. Pericles of Athens^Talk 13:50, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

User:Johnbod I thought you might want to take a look at this and provide your judgment about the latest round of edits by this user. Pericles of Athens^Talk 13:53, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've taken a look and reverted them. User:Zagreus99 your only edit summary on this article has been "this article needs serious tidying up", but all your edits amount to is fiddling round with the prose, sometimes making the meaning less clear, and with some grammatical errors (near "revolt"). This is an FA, written by a very experienced editor in this area, whuich seems to be a new one for you. As Pericles says, I would propose any further changes here first. Johnbod (talk) 14:30, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Johnbod Agreed. It would be one thing if this user found and corrected an earnest mistake, but all they really did was introduce unwanted grammatical errors, insert punctuation choices that deviate from the rest of the article and guidelines of the WP:MOS, and offer improper uses of certain terms that don't make sense in their given context. We should all observe that old adage: "if it's not broke, don't fix it." Pericles of Athens^Talk 17:14, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Her father

In the Infobox, her father's name is not hyperlinked but her mother's name is. Can you please hyperlink his name? Thank you. Example: Ptolemy XII should have [[ ]] around it. 74.14.11.231 (talk) 05:39, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the suggestion, but Ptolemy XII Auletes actually is already linked in the info box, in the field labelled "predecessor". We generally do not link things twice in the same info box. Pericles of Athens^Talk 07:02, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Got it! 74.14.11.231 (talk) 07:20, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why us this article always trending?

Has been for years. Would love to know why if anyone has an insight. Lxsdms (talk) 11:18, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is always best to check the archives when asking a question like this. I think you may find the answer to your question at Talk:Cleopatra/Archive 5#Trending article throughout 2021. Peaceray (talk) 15:12, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Peaceray thanks! Lxsdms (talk) 16:18, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Burial

Is the burial location of Cleopatra VII known? If so, it should be added. 74.15.254.221 (talk) 17:46, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, it isn't. Johnbod (talk) 20:11, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Only One Sentence Available?

The page has been edited today to only state one sentence: "cleopatra was a girlboss and pretty slay (sic)" I'm unable to re-edit the article back to what it was. Can someone else resolve this? 76.179.12.16 (talk) 02:03, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@76.179.12.16 needs updating, apparently it's been like this for almost a full day 136.55.53.153 (talk) 03:22, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]