User talk:Star Mississippi

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Holiday Wishes

Happy Holidays

Peace is a state of balance and understanding in yourself and between others, where respect is gained by the acceptance of differences, tolerance persists, conflicts are resolved through dialog, people's rights are respected and their voices are heard, and everyone is at their highest point of serenity without social tension. Happy Holidays to you and yours. ―Buster7 ☎

• Thank you @Buster7: and to you and yours as well. Star Mississippi 17:21, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings!

Hello there, thanks for all of your contributions to Wikipedia! Wishing you a Very Merry Christmas and here's to a happy and productive 2024! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:31, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks old friend. Happiest of holidays to you and yours. Star Mississippi 02:45, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Spicy (talk) is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Did you know that according to this, you're my biggest fan? I don't use the thanks button that often but I assure you the feeling is mutual. Best wishes for the holiday season.

Spread the cheer by adding {{subst:Xmas2}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Thanks @Spicy:. I so appreciate all your help at SPI. Happy holidays to you and your loved ones. All the best for 2024. Star Mississippi 19:51, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Holidays! New Years!

Holiday greetings and wishes for a new year filled with light and magic!

Hi Star Mississippi, Best wishes during this holiday season for peace, prosperity, health, happiness, and of course fun and good food. Oh and cute animals, like raccoons and glow-in-the-dark foxes. I have really enjoyed working together on various projects here, and am grateful to have you as a friendly fellow editor. Thank you for everything you do for the encyclopedia and this community. Image: New Year's Eve Foxfires at the Changing Tree, Oji, Utagawa Hiroshige, woodcut, 1857 Netherzone (talk) 21:01, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you friend. So glad to have crossed paths with you earlier this year - or was it last? LOve our mutual interest in improving all things art, museums.

Are you going to see the exhibit that includes your picture? Looks like it's going to be a great one Star Mississippi 18:50, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

I'm not sure what exhibit you are referring to. (If it is confidential, email me the info.) Thankfully there are still mysteries in the world! Netherzone (talk) 00:30, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings

Merry Christmas, Star Mississippi! Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Wikipedia. And for all the help you've thrown my way over the years. May this Holiday Season bring you nothing but joy, health and prosperity. Onel5969 TT me 02:37, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

Onel5969 ^{TT me} 02:37, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you friend. The same to you and your loved ones as well. Always great to work together. Star Mississippi 16:15, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Baloch in heroic Shahnameh

Hello First i'd liketo thank you for taking time on my article "Baloch in heroic Shahnameh". I just came across the subject and noticed my article was deleted by deletion discussion, as you reviewed my article some of the material that i used came from reliable sources and adequately explaining around the subject. I just don't understand why my article was deleted while correct information was registered according to the rules of Wikipedia . Anyway thank you for advice and help. Balash-Vologases (talk) 15:01, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi! Apologies for the delay @Balash-Vologases, I was offline. The person you want to ask about the close is @Explicit. I recommended it for deletion as sourcing isn't enough to show why the subject was independentl notable-a key requirement for an article, and I noted that it could have been merged. Explicit (correctly, IMO) read that the community consensus was to delete. Based on the other discussions on your Talk, I feel like you should spend more time learning about policies and guidelines before trying to write another article. I'm going to be offline much of this week, so suggest you ask at the teahouse for time sensitive help, but happy to help when I return after the holidays. Star Mississippi 02:56, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank anyway,

Hope you don't mind me asking this here, i just didn't want to add new topic on your page and avoid from making more pollution here, could you please guide me How can i to establish a consensus for an alteration on a subject? Balash-Vologases (talk) 09:30, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

I never mind, but I'm about to step offline again for a few days.

Probably the best location would be the article Talk, or if it doesn't yet exist/low traffic, you can find a parent subject. If that's not enough, the Teahouse folks will be able to guide you. Star Mississippi 11:23, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Ruhaan Rajput

FYI, page was recreated. I see you were involved with previous deletion discussions. If you look at my talk page under the heading Declined G4, you can find relevant information on the likely SOCK and link to the SPI. Hope you're enjoying your holidays. CNMall41 (talk) 03:29, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

thanks for flagging @CNMall41. Unfortunately, I was offline and will be again later this week. It looks like the disruption has stopped but if you see me online, don't hesitate to ask for more eyes. Happy Holidays! Star Mississippi 02:43, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Invitation

You are invited to participate in WikiProject Podcasting, a WikiProject dedicated to developing and improving articles about Podcasts. Feel free to add your name to the list of WikiProject participants and use the WikiProject's userbox by placing {{User WP Podcasting}} on your userpage.

Given that you started Beach too Sandy, Water too Wet, I thought you might be interested in participating at the Podcasting WikiProject. TipsyElephant (talk) 18:17, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! Watching the Project Talk now and will contribute where I can. Happy 2024 and thanks for thinking of me @TipsyElephant Star Mississippi 15:43, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

G5 - Draft:Yohan Poonawalla

Hi Star Mississippi. I'm a bit under the weather and am probably missing the blindingly obvious. On Draft:Yohan Poonawalla, I can't find Yaminishrmaa on the suspected or confirmed list. So I went to the deletion log, and viola! This is almost certainly Dave4MIndia. However, that's not on the suspected or confirmed list of MediaTribe either. It is a blocked sockpuppet of SunilGuptaWiki, however. (So I do need to G5 it) I can tie it to Yaminishrmaa. Other than this being a pointless exercise in exactness (which you can ignore if you want) what am I missing? Thanks! 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 03:16, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, me again. This is probably a sock, and it ain't notable, but this draft is significantly different than the deleted version(s), so I've undone myself. Profuse apologies for the mess. Still want to see what you're seeing. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 03:23, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi @78.26. Sorry to hear you're under the weather. I do hope you're improving. Re: substantively different, I thought that was only the case for G4 (which I declined to pursue at the AfD because you're correct, it's not the same). For G5 I thought it was just that it was socking. Pinging @DatGuy who labeled the last batch as confirmed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yohan poonawalla. My route in the tag was that Krishnarthiindia (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) was a blocked sock, and Steelbird1967 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is a squint eyes non sock who was just never blocked, but you may be technically correct that this isn't a G5 the way I read it originally (pre enough coffee after a late night).

FWIW, there's also Draft:Yohan poonawalla so I imagine you and I will be playing whack a sock for some time to come. Sadly. Star Mississippi 03:44, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Ah yes, Krishnarthiindia in the middle of the edit history. That's enough, AGF isn't suicide and, if that's not enough, a drop of IAR regarding saving volunteer time. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 01:10, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! Saving time and sanity one draft at a time Star Mississippi 03:34, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

CT55555

Hi Star, and happy new year. I just noticed that CT55555 has not edited since September. I'm sorry to see that they are taking an extended leave, and hope they come back. Any idea why they may have left? I miss seeing them around! Netherzone (talk) 00:28, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Oops, I missed this. They mentioned to me in one of our conversations that they were trying to find some balance, but I didn't realize they'd been gone this long. Hope they're well, wherever they are. Star Mississippi 18:56, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Imran Noshad Khan

Hi there, hope you doing well. I wanted to ask you about the said draft article. I have further worked on it, updated the article and added more citations. I wanted you to have a look into it and give your opinion whether it's ready for mainspace or not. Thanks, Happy New Year! IBuNeriPK (talk) 18:45, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi @IBuNeriPK! You're welcome to submit it to AfC where an editor will review it, but I do not think factors have changed enough to make him notable, even in light of his short term disappearance. He still does not seem to have attained biographic notability independent of events in which he's involved. Is that helpful? Star Mississippi 18:54, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Alright I'll submit to AfC but about notability don't you think the criteria for English Wikipedia in South Asia is different from that in Anglosphere. There are actually the other articles from our region with even less biographic notability and citations in news sources from this one. IBuNeriPK (talk) 08:56, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

There are a lot of articles that need attention, unfortunately which is why we have WP:OSE.

Please do resubmit and maybe someone will look at it differently. There is English language sourcing so I don't think that's it, I just think he isn't quite notable as is defined here yet. Star Mississippi 13:47, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Orkhan Mammadov

I am not sure I understand the deletion, or the delete arguments, you had citations in the article, a mix of, the addition of the previous AfD had Article 1, Article 2, Article 3, Article 4, Article 5, USAID Press Release, Article 6. Posted by PiccklePiclePikel ... So I was under the impression there should be more than enough for GNG. So is the AfD down to just a numbers voting game again? Because there certainly wasn't any in-depth discussion from one delete argument to me. So you'd have to forgive me, but I can't see how it deserves to be a SALT option. The guy is very wealthy and one of the top elites of the country, who contributes in somewhat political circles. I am against SALTing. Govvy (talk) 09:03, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

You've been around here a very long time, even longer than I have. We both know that the guy is very wealthy and one of the top elites of the country, who contributes in somewhat political circles. and I've seen far worse off articles on American representation get kept for less. are not arguments that are going to hold up as a keep or convince someone to review their decision. Something he mentioned (that's literally it and the same here and here, a quote) aren't enough to pass notability and they're definitely not independent. Even ones like this which you didn't call a press release are exactly that. If you believe my close is wrong, I support a DRV, but the sourcing isn't there to support an article on Mammadov. The article has been deleted three times (Not counting G13) with no indication factors have changed is the reason I SALTed. Happy to discuss that, but this cycle of a new article without factors having changed isn't productive. Star Mississippi 13:54, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Requesting the draft use of Cure Alzheimer's Fund article

Hello,

Happy New Year! I would like to request the use of the deleted article, Cure Alzheimer's Fund to use as a basis for a much improved version with more citations and notable content. Regretfully, we had not updated the page with this content as part of the deletion discussion. We have more than 1,000 research papers in reputable publications like Neuroscience, Alzheimer's and Dementia, Alzheimer's Research and Therapy, and Science Advances. Our organization has funded nearly $200 million in scientific research since our inception nearly 20 years ago. We fund basic proof of concept research, the kind of research that is the basis of all scientific discovery. Many of our researchers are able to take their ideas after our funding and submit for National Institute of Health (NIH) grants. For example, from 2018-2020 $47 million of our funded projects received $350m in follow on funding from the NIH.

We understand the value of a Wikipedia presence and would like the opportunity to add the necessary information and follow the Wikipedia guidelines.

I would be happy to discuss this topic and appreciate your reading and considering the request.

Have a great day! CureAlzUser (talk) 17:42, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi @CureAlzUser. I think you have a misunderstanding of notability. As my colleague @331dot advised you, WP:CORP is not based on your funded projects, research, etc. It is based solely on what independent, reliable sources say about the organization and requires a depth beyond what they mention as your work. Charity Navigator, Guidestar, etc. are not independent nor are most of what was in the draft, which also appeared pasted from somewhere. I have re-reviewed the latest version that was deleted, and this isn't going to work as the basis of an article so I recommend you start fresh. It's very difficult to write neutrally about the organization, so I recommend you don't. However, if you decide this is a path you want to take: WP:42 and WP:YFA will be helpful. While it isn't required, I'd recommend that you change your username to better represent yourself as an individual. So Joe at CureAlz would work. More info here: Wikipedia:Username_policy#Promotional_usernames. Let me know if you need more information? Star Mississippi 00:41, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Feather Linux (2nd nomination)

I understand that you have closed the above AfD as redirect, but as of the current moment, it has not been redirected. Was this intentional (which I can understand as the discussion kind of was closed in a stalemate)? - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 11:19, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Good morning @Champion. It was, because there were at least two potential targets and neither had consensus. Since consensus was clear that a redirect was the desired outcome, the decision on where didn't require a relist Let me know if that's helpful or you need more information? Star Mississippi 14:00, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

I understand. I am not sure where that should be discussed though, since there aren't many editors watching the page, it's unlikely that a discussion on the article's talk page will generate responses. Now that I think about it, it seems better to have relisted the AfD as it would more likely have attracted more editors to discuss a potential redirect target. - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 22:52, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

I'm not sure that's going to help, but happy to relist if you don't think the TP solution will work. Doing so momentarily. Thanks for flagging! Star Mississippi 23:06, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

and... then I forgot to ping. But all done I think! Star Mississippi 23:17, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Idaho

Hey Star Mississippi. Apologies for not creating that Idaho season merger article in time. Do you think you could restore the 1903 season to draftspace to assist me in creating the merger? Thanks. BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:24, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Here you go: Draft:1903 Academy of Idaho Bantams football team @BeanieFan11

The AfC headers are automagic, obviously you don't need to go through it for the merger . Feel free to ping me on any of these. Star Mississippi 03:42, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

2024

Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy New Year

2024

Thank you for support and appreciation on my talk. As you know, I have a DYK on the Main page, but my story would be different, about Figaro, - this Figaro. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:31, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for that lesson. I learn so much, as always @Gerda Arendt Star Mississippi 14:34, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, - that's a nice way to say it! - On the Main page: the person who made the pictured festival possible --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:26, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

story · music · places

Yesterday was a friend's birthday, with related music. - I'm on vacation - see places. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:46, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

What a wonderful education you give us all, thank you! Safe travels Star Mississippi 20:28, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Deletion review for Journal of Commercial Biotechnology

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Journal of Commercial Biotechnology. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Mach61 (talk) 03:21, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

The reason I didn't consult with you before going to DRV is that I've yet to recall seeing an archived AfD close where the closing admin stated that they were convinced to modify their ruling after talk discussion. If you feel I have been insufficiently communative, I'm sorry, this is my first time. Cheers, Mach61 (talk) 03:42, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

No need to apologize, it's within your right to proceed without a discussion. I'm about to log off so I'll review the DRV and AfD in the morning. Star Mississippi 03:50, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

ATDs

Thank you for normalizing mention of alternatives to deletion in your AfD closures. Jclemens (talk) 05:19, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

You're welcome @Jclemens. I really do think they help the reader who goes to one page and finds what they're looking for, vs. incomplete information since the sub-topic/person might not have been suitably notable for a page. If you see one where I've missed an ATD, feel free to ping and I'll adjust. Have a great day. Star Mississippi 14:34, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Raaka Chocolate (January 14)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Johannes Maximilian was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Raaka Chocolate and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
• If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
• If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 01:56, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Providing history for redirect from AfD

Hello, first I want to say thank you for closing Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abdulieh Janneh.

Per the decision, "While a redirect would be a viable ATD, there are several places where he's mentioned, there's no clear redirect target. If one is subsequently created, happy to provide the history thereunder." -- As the 1992 Olympics was Janneh's most notable competition, I have created a redirect from Abdulieh Janneh to The Gambia at the 1992 Summer Olympics. Can you please provide/merge the history of the original page and the corresponding talk page? It would be helpful because there was an unresolved discussion thread on the talk page that I think would be useful to remain on-wiki.

Thank you, --Habst (talk) 00:34, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

You're most welcome @Habst. Always happy to do this pre or post close since it helps the reader. I've undeleted both and made the Talk page discussion visible. If you know a better solution for the Talk, feel free to implement it. Happy editing! Star Mississippi 01:09, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

An aside about Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brenton L. Saunders

Thanks for the discussion at the current AfD. I didn't want to put this into the AfD and muddy the water for new participants, but that was simply a failure of an AfD. It was nominated by an editor who was active for a very short time and whose main business seems to have been nominating articles for deletion; all but this one failed. This AfD should have failed as well. We had only one single reasoned !d vote, accompanied by two garbage !d votes, (one garbage !d vote by an editor who has been banned from AfD for their garbage !d votes, and one more by a sock.) Shame on me for not doing a better job defending the article, it should have been easy based on WP:BUSINESSPERSONOUTCOME. There were so many things going on, and this one seemed so obviously notable to me I let it slide, much to my regret. So anyway, I agree that it's not what has happened since the original AfD that makes the subject notable, the problem is that the original AfD got it wrong. It's one of my worst regrets in the history of my participation in the process. In any case, keep up the good work, I appreciate what you do at AfD, even though I rarely participate any more, I feel I have had a positive effect over the years. If you feel this would be more appropriately discussed in the deletion discussion, I have no objection to it being moved there. Thanks again! — Jacona (talk) 13:34, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

I appreciate your reaction, I also understand making the nomination - the creator of the current version of the page was problematic in many ways. Again, thanks!! — Jacona (talk) 14:10, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

LOL, jinx. Not sure why your second note didn't show while I was typing. Star Mississippi 14:13, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Jacona. I was glad to see you pop up here and somewhere else recently because while we don't always agree on the outcomes, I feel like there's always good discussion.

I understand your concerns with the first AfD and agree with you, although I'd missed one was a sock. However, there's some absolute sock/UPE shenanigans going on with the recreation at Brent Saunders-not your redirect, that was of course fine- and I felt it needed more eyes. It got more eyes and I've withdrawn as absolutely wrong. If I'd been more awake when I nominated it, I might have skipped that. But thanks for and never hesitate to raise anything here. Star Mississippi 14:12, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

You're right - I wonder what the original article looked like, in terms of which editors created and edited it. This version really needs major work. I don't have time for it, though. Thanks for all you do! — Jacona (talk) 14:26, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Let's just say there was absolutely nothing salvageable or I'd draftify it for you. There was Jacksonfu.tw, either UPE/COI or Saunders himself based on info that would be impossible to externally source without a connection and a bunch of drive by edits. While the current one is problematic, those two editors at least understood the framework of drafting an article. Star Mississippi 23:34, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Edit-conflict at the Attanthangal AfD

Hey, looks like you closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Attanthangal while I was trying to relist it. I'm of the opinion that pretty much all the keep !votes in that discussion are invalid, as they either make reference to sources not present anywhere in the discussion or article, or else incorrectly assert that WP:POPULATED has been met when the sourcing does not conform to that guideline. I'd recommend relisting it. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 14:58, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

 Done

I hate places almost as much as I hate sports articles. That shouldn't be a keep, but it probably will end up as one in the end.

There's enough primary sourcing that a redirect could be supported, but we really don't need to be an index of every place ever mentioned on a map somewhere, nor everyone who played anywhere. Thankfully the latter is changing slowly. IT would really help the reader to have one article with all the pieces vs. 17 stubs. My editor POV on that, obviously Star Mississippi 15:10, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

I unfortunately agree with Star here :( Sohom (talk) 17:38, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

I have fixed the issues you told me

I added government sources clearly showing Caddebostan is a neighborhood and the population is sourced too????? Youprayteas (talk) 14:39, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

You have not fixed the issues. Please read WP:GEOLAND to see what is required of populated places and WP:SIRS for help on sourcing. There is no reason it cannot remain a redirect until it's notable, which bike rides to haunted houses don't establish. Star Mississippi 14:41, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

There are over 1000 articles on villages with very low population, only one or two sources and they carry no significancy. The haunted house is explained in 3 of my sources, isn’t that enough??? The sources are in Turkish and I believe you don’t know Turkish but everything is mentioned in the references. Youprayteas (talk) 15:33, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

WP:OSE is not helpful as it may be the case that those neighborhoods also need to be deleted.

It's possible another AfC reviewer will disagree with me and accept it which is why I allowed for re-submission. Turkish sources are valid if they meet reliable source standards. But neighborhoods can and often sould be covered within the main area of which they are a part. There is no need for an independent article to promote the haunted house. Star Mississippi 16:03, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

I am not promoting the haunted house, it is just a landmark. Youprayteas (talk) 16:35, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Which doesn't convey notability to the neighborhood. This can be mentioned here

Why have you chosen not to edit there? Star Mississippi 16:43, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

I tried to add everything I can find related to Caddebostan. Having an article accepted is important so I added as much as I can in the hopes that you accept it and I’m suprised you rejected because you can just say its a stub article like thousands of other articles with no content at all Youprayteas (talk) 16:47, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

I didn't reject it. You're welcome to resubmit. As other editors have told you and I said above, those articles may have issues meaning they shouldn't exist. That doesn't mean we add more.

If that's everything you can find, it may be that the neighborhood is not notable. There is no issue with editing the existing article. Star Mississippi 16:52, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

I understand. I just want to say that I thought Wikipedia’s goal was to be inclusive as possible. For example, Caddebostan has an article in the Turkish Wiki and I’m just translating it to English. Ok sure, I shouldn’t compare articles but I don’t think villages with populations of 40 should exist but not a important neighborhood with over 20k population which is in the middle of Istanbul, one of the biggest cities of Europe and Asia. Youprayteas (talk) 17:27, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

It's also possible that Turkish Wikipedia's notability guidelines are different to the English language ones. As I said, you're welcome to re-submit it. I will not review it and it's possible other editors will believe it's notable. You've had the same feedback at the help desk, so it may be time to edit on a different topic if you want to create a page, or edit the mainspace article if you want to just add the well sourced information. Star Mississippi 17:59, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

What is “the mainspace article”? Youprayteas (talk) 18:14, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Kadıköy or specifically Kadıköy#Attractions,_entertainment_and_eating about the haunted house or Coast.

This makes it easier for the reader to find the information they're looking for in one place. Star Mississippi 18:19, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

I’m not writing about the landmarks, I’m writing about the neighborhood though. Youprayteas (talk) 18:25, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

which can also be written about within the article (hence or). Please read WP:NOPAGE for a better understanding of why we don't need separate pages when the information can be covered somewhere existing. Most of. your sourcing seemed to be about the haunted house, which is why it seemed to be your goal. Star Mississippi 18:57, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

This is very incorrect. The travel blogs only mention the haunted house. There is only one reference specifically about the haunted house and it is about the house being sold. My goal was to add a page for a significant neighborhood. Youprayteas (talk) 19:31, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Let's move this discussion to the help desk where the issue with travel blogs has been answered at length as I saw that first Star Mississippi 23:44, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Deleted articles being excluded from all articles

Just wanted to share with you how crazy this situation got. For all I know, ever since begining when we erased articles we would just remove the links so they dont stay redlinked, and that is it. Removing their mention altogether may leave to such missleading information that is beyond my comprension how others dont understand it. FkpCascais (talk) 18:31, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Let's please keep the discussion somewhere central, whether @Liz's talk or an appropriate noticeboard. I'm not saying you're correct or @Clarityfiend isn't (or vice versa), just that I don't think policy and practice are settled. Different folks feel different outcomes are desirable which makes it hard for an AfD closer to handle it the "right" way. Star Mississippi 18:56, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Who said I advocated for excluding from all articles? Athos is a dab page and a name list, and neither make provision for including articleless wannabes. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:36, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

I'm purely pointing out that each of you sees how to process link removal differently. I actually have no idea who is "right" or whether you both are. Star Mississippi 02:44, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

2007 Swiss Invasion of Liechtenstein

Thank you for reviewing my 2007 Swiss Invasion of Liechtenstein. I will delete it from my sandbox page as it does not meat Wikipedia's guidelines on notability. Cheers! Seisachtheia (talk) 12:04, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Happy editing. Feel free to ping me if I can help with anything. It was a fascinating subject. Star Mississippi 15:21, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Serapis Bey

Hello, I have no opinion on the subject but can I ask why you closed this as "soft" delete when there was a Keep !vote? "a nomination has received few or no comments from any editor, and no one has opposed deletion" does not seem to be the case here. Best, -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 00:18, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

I'm happy to re-close it as a full delete if you'd prefer. When there's a rebutted/likely COI keep and minimal input I close as soft keep if someone really wants to work on it following refund to avoid the bureaucracy of DRV> Star Mississippi 00:29, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Hello, fair enough, if you think that saves time. I just thought you might have missed the keep !vote (!). Thanks for explaining. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 07:11, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Deletion bundle

I'm not sure if I did it wrong but I meant to bundle the article List of countries by electricity imports in the nomination Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of countries by electricity exports. Wizmut (talk) 02:56, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Nothing wrong on your end, the script glitched. I've fixed it now, so thanks for flagging @Wizmut Star Mississippi 03:01, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Afd again

Hello, this Afd, I find, would at least have deserved a Relist, don't you think? Allmusic and TrouserPress are reliable and those were reviews not just lists of artists.....Anyway, just letting you know I completely disagree with the outcome and even with the idea that there was any consensus at all, and that I'll redirect the page then. Best, -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:53, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Good morning. I noted a relist could be done, and you've done so. You're welcome to take it to DRV if you really think it was incorrect. However, you were the only editor supporting retention against three convincing and policy based arguments for deletion. WP:NOPAGE makes this and @DeputyBeagle's points (courtesy ping) since I'm citing them. The number of participants and discussion is sufficient input not to relist an already bogged down AfD process. Star Mississippi 14:00, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Hello again and thank you for reply. "A relist", you mean a redirect, I suppose? (your 1st sentence). No, I won't take it to Deletion Review, but thanks, I have spent enough time improving the page modestly, at the Afd and then at the main article page. If you find convincing arguments based on a demonstrably false assertion that presented (even short) reviews in reliable sources are not significant coverage, well, let's agree to disagree and leave it at that, if that's OK with you too. Thank you again. Best, -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:23, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

LOL yes. I clearly had not had my coffee

That the reviews exist is established, that they were of sufficient depth was unfortunately not. It's all good. Down the road if you want me to restore the history under the redirect, I'm happy to. That way you have it if you find sufficient sourcing down the road to spin it out, you can more easily do so. Star Mississippi 01:22, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Tool, script or bot for updating citation links?

Greetings Star! Hope all is going very well in your world! I'm wanting to update some of the articles I've created that have outdated links in the references. There seems to be a script, bot or tool that exists that can update the refs so that the original URL remains, and a new url is added that (I think) goes to either the Wayback Machine or to Internet Archive. Would you happen to know what that is? And if not, do you know of an editor I might ask who would be knowledgeable in this sort of thing? Or maybe the HelpDesk? All the best to you, Netherzone (talk) 15:57, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi! Sorry for the delay, I was offline for a few hours. Hope you're having a great evening. Do you mean an edit like this? I see @Epicgenius make them on occasion on my watchlist so pinging them here. If this isn't the one you mean, I think odds are good they may know of similar tool as I think there's another, but I can't find an edit on my watchlist to reference it. Star Mississippi 03:03, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping. The tool I use is https://iabot.wmcloud.org/index.php. I don't know of any alternatives to this, though. Epicgenius (talk) 04:02, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you both very much for your help and the link to the tool, I appreciate it! Netherzone (talk) 04:08, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

That is a very cool tool. I've never used a bot before, and this one seems really useful. I also noticed that you cannot preview changes before the bot runs on the page. I'll go slowly while learning. Are any special permissions required to use the bot? Netherzone (talk) 04:24, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

@Netherzone, I'm glad I could help. It is unfortunate that one cannot preview changes before saving. For the time being, if there is a reference that you do not want the bot to archive, you'd have to edit the page before running the tool; adding Template:Cbignore right at the end of that reference, like this <ref>{{cite web|title=...}}{{cbignore}}</ref>, would cause the bot to skip that reference. I do not think any special permissions are required to use the bot, but you do have to log in first and allow the tool to make edits on your behalf. – Epicgenius (talk) 14:24, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks again, this is a great info, will save your notes re: editing the ref. Best regards, Netherzone (talk) 17:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Franco Lino

Hello,

I understand that there were previous instances where the ‘Franco Lino’ article was created before the player had made a professional appearance, thus being ineligible for an article, and so it has since been locked from being able to be created.

The player has now however made the required professional appearances, and his new article has been created unnecessarily including his middle name in the article title (Franco Osuru Lino), going against the naming convention of footballers.

As I believe you are the one who locked the original article, may I please request that the current article be moved to the more succinct naming title.

Thanks! Olyroo (talk) 11:27, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I weighed in at the AfD noting that if factors have changed, my protection can be overwritten. Star Mississippi 17:13, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

You made an edit to Ibdaa Cultural Center when Electronic Intifada was still potentially an RS, now that it isn’t, do you still believe that notability is met?

Hey @Star Mississippi, I came across an old edit of yours here. Now that EI is depreciated, I’m not sure if the requirement for notability is still met. Could you weigh in on that? Alternatively, if you have other RS, that would also alleviate the issue.

Thank you :) FortunateSons (talk) 00:04, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi! Aside from EI being deprecated, which I'd missed so thanks for flagging, I'm not sure it is actually notable to the level N:ORG requires. I don't read Arabic, but not having an article on the Arabic wikipedia isn't a good sign either. I don't have time to look for further sourcing right now, but would have no objection should you (or anyone else) choose to nominate it. Star Mississippi 02:21, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Ok, thank you very much. I don’t speak Arabic either, so I probably will and can just retract it if someone finds a source. FortunateSons (talk) 11:03, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Did you mean to leave that undeleted

I noticed that you closed List of NASCAR drivers' AfD yet you failed to delete the article. Was that a mistake or intentional? NW1223<Howl at me•My hunts> 01:55, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Oh interesting. It's too large to be deleted. I know of @Xaosflux and @AmandaNP. Wonder if either would be willing to help, or I'll have to go through the Meta process. Happy for any tips. AfD referenced is Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_NASCAR_drivers_(2nd_nomination)

Thanks for flagging @NightWolf1223 Star Mississippi 02:10, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks 2601:5cc:8300:a7f0:bcf6:5589:14e4:ede7 for the temporary solution! Star Mississippi 02:48, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Please list at meta:Steward requests/Miscellaneous - I generally avoid steward actions here since this is my homewiki. — xaosflux ^Talk 05:24, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the tip on where. Will do! Star Mississippi 15:02, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Resolved now, thanks Superpes15 and thanks again @NightWolf1223 for flagging Star Mississippi 17:51, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Jackson County Sheriff's Office (Oregon) AfD

Hello Star, can you undo/relist the AfD. The ATD redirect would not be an acceptable outcome per the RfD that brought the article to AfD (I was the RfD closer). If the article cannot be improved, merged or redirected to a different target, it would need to be deleted. I didn't really expect the close as redirect, or I would have made my comment at the AfD. Jay 💬 05:30, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Done! Sorry forgot to ping but assuming you're watching. FWIW, the merger, which was mentioned at the RfD, could have been done as part of the redirect since the history was maintained but I'll be more explicit in that in future closes. Based on a bunch of fire/police/EMS and schools which have virtually all landed as redirects, I don't see a way this ends up a delete, but we'll see where it lands. We desperately need more participation at xFD, but I don't think these are topics of interest, unfortunately. Star Mississippi 13:37, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the relist. The RfD suggested improvement or merging after restore, but the article went straight to AfD probably indicating the nominator did not see scope for either. If in future closes, you indicate that the content COULD be merged-and-redirected, isn't this optional? Shouldn't the AfD closer do the merge, or does the closer leave it to any editor to do a possible merge? Jay 💬 15:56, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Any time. We're all human.

For the second part, I think community consensus is split as to whether it's our job as admin closer or not to enact the merge. We declare there to be consensus for the merge, but any editor can enact it. It's sometimes helpful for someone familiar with the subject to perform it because they may be better placed to organize the content, etc. That said, Category:Articles to be merged after an Articles for deletion discussion is perpetually backlogged so if you or I don't do it as closer, odds are good it's a long time from happening. There are some closes - moreso where consensus is split between merge and redirect or merge and delete I'll close as redirect with a note that the history is there should consensus emerge for a merge because often times, it's not a priority or folks forget about it. Star Mississippi 01:39, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

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An editor has asked for a deletion review of List of current National Football League staffs. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. ==

BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:24, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for getting this started @BeanieFan11:. Thought of one thing to add and have done so at the DRV so that it's all central. Star Mississippi 01:34, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

User:Fjnovoa/Fidel Antonio Novoa Meléndez

I have eliminated all citations coming from FamilySearch as requested, I would like to resubmit for review my article. Thank you in advance for your consideration to this matter. Fjnovoa (talk) 16:25, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

User:Fjnovoa/Fidel Antonio Novoa Meléndez

I have added this paragraph, so the subject can pass WP:NPOL

"Dr. Novoa Meléndez legacy belongs to a family that has earned local political notoriety in public service in El Salvador in the 19th and 20th centuries: his father Adolfo Novoa Méndez was Trustee of the City Counsil (Síndico in Spanish) of Sensuntepeque Municipality in 1880, his son Fidel Antonio Novoa Fuentes was a congressman in 1929, both his grandsons Fidel Antonio Novoa Arciniegas was the Mayor of San Salvador in 1964 and Ricardo Armando Novoa Arciniegas was a Judge of the Supreme Court of Justice of El Salvador in 1989."

I have added secondary citation too.

Kindly, could you please reinstate my article. I have put long hours into my project. Fjnovoa (talk) 20:43, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

• • I have responded on your talk page Fjnovoa and have removed my rejection. I do think you need to leave these articles to someone unconnected as the tone remains inappropriate for an encyclopedic project, but will leave it for someone else's review. If this series of articles is ultimately accepted, you should use WP:Edit requests and not edit them directly. Star Mississippi 01:46, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

User:Fjnovoa/Fidel Antonio Novoa Meléndez

Hello Star Mississippi,

On my article referenced above, I got rid of all the citations from FamilySearch. I have deleted paragraphs to make more summarized and shorter. I am using citation 1, 10 and 12 as secondary sources. Would you kindly review it and advise any changes for improvement and gaining approval?

Thank you in advance,

@Fjnovoa Fjnovoa (talk) 01:54, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi! I think you've done well to improve the sourcing. If you click the blue resubmit button, a reviewer will be along to assess the changes. Let me know if can help in the mean time. Star Mississippi 15:00, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Fidel Antonio Novoa Fuentes

Hello Star Mississippi, For the above referenced article I have added secondary sources, [8] which is another Wikipedia article. Your review, advise and corrections would be highly appreciated.

@Fjnovoa Fjnovoa (talk) 17:37, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Fjnovoa

Unfortunately other wikis and collaboratively edited projects are not viable sources as they're WP:UGC which is not reliable. However you're making good progress, so please keep at it and someone will review. Star Mississippi 17:47, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, I have now updated citation secondary sources, [8] Fjnovoa (talk) 22:18, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

@Pppery, @Theroadislong: I'm not sure I'm following all the page moves. The author and I have been discussing the articles here as well as on their talk. Let me know if anything is needed? Star Mississippi 23:47, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

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Could you please undel the original Bambino cat and put it at User:SMcCandlish/Incubator/Bambino cat? It seems likely to me that there was some more salvageable material in there that can be merged to List of experimental cat breeds#Bambino (where the very little material we have was moved to. It had originally been shoehorned into Munchkin cat as a subsection, but this was basically a WP:CFORK, since we're keeping the experimental crossbreeds info in the list article, not in articles on foundation-stock breeds (except as cross-references to the list article). If what's in the deleted version seems like utter trash, don't bother, but I'm hoping for some bits that can be extracted, even if it requires a little more sourcing work. The list entry at present is really skeletal.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  03:39, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi @SMcCandlish!

I may be missing something entirely obvious in your request due to the late hour, in which case my apologies for asking you to clarify. As far as I can tell, there are no deleted revisions and you should be able to see the whole history pre AfD at this rev. There is information worth adding which was part of why I didn't delete it prior to the redirect. I'll be online about ten more minutes. If I've logged off and more is needed tonight, please consider this my blessing to ask any other admin to perform what's needed. Star Mississippi 03:49, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Oh! Duh! I must need coffee.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  03:54, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Oh I just did that in an AfD where there was no excuse other than new reading glasses/more coffee. It's contagious. Have a good evening. Star Mississippi 03:59, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Mileo deletion

Hi Star Mississippi, hope your well, i could be missing something but i thought the consensus was to keep the page from deletion on the discussion page? There had been an incident on X (Twitter) since the artist started gaining more popularity online, where a few X accounts that took issue with the artist's song lyrics had made threats about deleting his wikipedia page due to personal dislike for the act, then a day later a deletion page was created. There isn't really much to disagree with in terms of him being a known act in Scandinavia, the issue was the sources on the page being outdated or not of use, but that just required updating. NorHux (talk) 14:08, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Good morning. The consensus was that sourcing wasn't sufficient. Being a known act isn't sufficient when independent, reliable sources don't appear to have covered Mileo's work. As you noted, just because some twitter accounts agitate against the article doesn't mean simply !voting keep will be sufficient to retain it. That said, I'm human. If you believe my close was incorrect please open a Deletion Review with my consent and blessing. Star Mississippi 14:12, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

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Query

Hello, Star Mississippi,

I'm here because of a strange little glitch. When I see your signature or you listed in a page history, the link to your User talk page is a pink link, not a blue link. Typically pink links mean a page is part of some deletion processes so I come to your User talk page to see if it is mistakenly tagged but I don't see a problem. I also looked at your signature on this page and you don't have a link to your User talk page. So, I'm not sure what is up. See the Move log and search for your name to see what I mean. Of course, I use scripts that use colors to identify different statuses and you might not have them installed. But I thought I'd mention it in case there is something wrong.

I hope you have a pleasant weekend. Was expecting rain but it never arrived here. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:55, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi! I don't have those scripts and I admit I have no idea how to change the color but I will absolutely do so to avoid confusion. I changed from a long-standing sig when I became active again and found someone else's was too similar (to my eyes) and opted to change mine since it was my perception. Plus I love me some pink, but have no need to wreak havoc. I'll figure it out this evening. Thanks for flagging.

As for the link, I think it's only because we're on my Talk that it's not a link. When I go to User_talk:Liz#Mohamed_Firuzul_Abdullah_Haleel for example, it's a link to my Talk. We had a weird "winter" weekend, but I'll take it. Ws so good to be outdoors. Glad you've avoided the rain unless you need it? Star Mississippi 14:09, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

@Liz: Just for the record, the pink-colored link would be because the page was formerly in the Category:Articles to be merged after an Articles for deletion discussion category, due to an attempt to wikilink to that category without using the colon trick. That was fixed here, so there shouldn't be any more issues. :) Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 20:30, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks @Writ Keeper for the explanation and fixing it. @Liz, let me know if you still need me to adjust. I am happy to. Star Mississippi 01:16, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

User:SjamesR52/sandbox

Is this a G12 or RD1 action? The decline is RD1, but no range of edits were indicated. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:01, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi! It's pulled from here and here. In my experience it's not enough for a G12 in draft space and someone will try to fix it. Without a clean version, I didn't find anyone to revert it to

Happy to make it a G11 if it helps you clean out the backlog? Let me know. Star Mississippi 00:43, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, that would be helpful. Thanks! :) - UtherSRG (talk) 01:28, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

 Done

I haven't G11'ed, but changed the decline. If they return to editing and don't address it, I don't see it moving through AfC Star Mississippi 01:41, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Good enough. :) Thanks! - UtherSRG (talk) 01:44, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Any time, thanks for flagging Star Mississippi 01:44, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Jahanshah Javid

Dear Mississippi, I fail to see why this article was deleted. Several credible independent sources were offered that have made this person subject of their deep coverage. Drako (talk) 02:10, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

The consensus in the discussion disagreed with you. If you believe I closed it in error, you're welcome to file a deletion reviews Star Mississippi 02:22, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

I believe my arguments were not refuted by anyone. The other user didn’t even address the several sources I cited and was just hellbent on one of them. Drako (talk) 02:25, 6 February 2024 (UTC)