User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom
The name TheRedPen was already taken, so I must perforce add to the moniker.
I also edit South Park and Family Guy and other "cultural reference" pages and from public log in sites as User:Notnotkenny. Notnotkenny (talk) 00:17, 10 March 2009 (UTC) Yes I do. -- The Red Pen of Doom 00:19, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
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response
my link is allowed. according to WP:EL, a link that should be added is: An article about a book, a musical score, or some other media... video feed is other media of norm coleman giving his personal views on the conflict. Ashreipinkus (talk)
Hopefully baloney has ceased
Notes to self
{{db-user}} <- get rid of user page
Technical fix
Edit Warring
[thoughtless comment removed by author]
Added BBC reference.
Image:Mohanlal Exclusive.jpg
I got the original photo that is too large with many other photos in one poster from the original person who took the photo. So i cut it and provide more lights and works in different parts. So i upload it as entirely my own work. If such type of photos are there how should i upload it. Please help me. Like this one that i upload the photo File:Lt Col Mohanlal. Please help me that u told that some copyright issues are there. Thank u ---> User_talk:Saj2009 16:47, 15 June 2009
Help- Uploading
Hi, you have warned me for uploading some images. Please help me that how can i upload images under what rights like images saved from internet, screenshots, capture from powerdvd & the images that i don't know the correct sources etc. I have many images that i would like to upload in wikipedia fo several articles. Thank you. Saj2009 (talk) 11:05, 21 June 2009
BDay Cake!!
Hello, R-POD. Admittedly this article is a bit farcical, and I wrote it with the intention of being so...every now and then someone comes along and corrects my citations etc. My apologies for the quick revert, but that is how i usually respond to such rehauls (in hopes that that rehauler will not notice) in order to preserve the meaningfulness of the article (as a parody of wikipedia, which is *ironically* valid). However, this particular rehauler did notice, and I have no choice but to address your rehaul seriously. I perused your edits; some i agreed with and others not - I will look over them when I have time, reedit, and hopefully we can come to a consensus. If you are not too busy, I would appreciate some help with citations on one of my more serious articles bangladesh famine of 1974. Thanks, mmm. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mineminemine (talk • contribs) 2009-07-01T01:42:31 (UTC)
- I have reviewed your corrections and found them to be ridiculous. You have without reason removed large sections of text - many of which are properly sourced. I would suggest that you read the sources and . Your edits thusfar have not been constructive but destructive - "in bad faith" as I believe wikipedia calls it. I will re-edit again this time with my arguments. I am sorry if, I sound brash, but you must understand this from my point of view - I spent considerable time doing research for this article and without reasonable cause, you remove the majority of it. Again, while agree with some of your points, you have not taken any time to help improve the article, but have simply removed sections which you disagree with. As I understand, this is not in the spirit of wikipedia and in any case removes important information which is valid. While I admit that I do not understand wiki protocol completely, you could at least explain and as per my request help me to improve the article rather than cannibalizing it. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mineminemine (talk • contribs) 00:33, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
- actually, take a look at my contributions and you will realise that a) i am fairly new to wikipedia and b) yes, I actually have been quite constructive. As for this article, I am slightly offended that you just did a revert, erasing all of my changes (I had added to and rearranged parts of the article to try to correct my citation errors. I went line by line and explained why the information was relevant/correctly cited ) and without at least responding to my explanations. The main academic citation comes from an academic article by Cherasky (2000) published in gastronomica (I'll admit I didn't give a proper citation, just listing the website). Most of the material refers in some way to Cherasky; unfortunately, this source is one which you have removed, though i'm sure it's in the history. I would appreciate if you could reply to my comments and explain your edits. Thanks and I hope we can work through this amicably;- for myself, I hope to improve my wikipedia skills, as I intend to continue contributing. signed, mineminemine (by the way, how does one sign one's name?)
So my post has been on the discussion page and has not met contention, does this mean that information that points to that source can be returned?Mineminemine (talk) 20:25, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
David Ferguson (impresario)
The WP:BLP, David Ferguson (impresario), has been tagged with a lot of templates by two editors who have a long history of negative edits on this article. Could you be kind enough to take a look at the text, citations, and templates and share your views? There is also a posting on the Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard about these templates. I'm writing to you because you've expressed interest in this article before and I think help is needed about a NPOV. Thank you. --deb (talk) 19:44, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for checking out the David Ferguson (impresario) article. Per your advice, I've made edits to address the WP:Peacock template; after I removed the corresponding banner I also left a post on the article's discussion page. --deb (talk) 06:19, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
I just wanted to let you know that I've done some edits and removed some banner templates on the David Ferguson (impresario) article, per your comments (thanks again for your assistance.) deb (talk) 04:44, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Quidelines
Could you please comment about this, here on your Talk page? I'm truly fascinated. -- Thekohser 18:07, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
- "qu" seems to be permanently fused in my brain. it is a typo i freuqently make and have no idea why. -- The Red Pen of Doom 18:11, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
HELP!
Please help me to lock the page as it kept getting vandalized and I know that I don't own the page but I am sure of what I wrote and someone previesouly changed a lot of things on my page and someone else later deleted everything. I will put everything back but again, please help me to fully protect the page or at least semi-protect it to keep it safe from non-member editors. Bin Khater —Preceding undated comment added 20:04, 12 July 2009 (UTC).
Dear RedPenofDoom
Dear RPoD,
What I wrote in the Norm Coleman article was no mistake and it was in fact on purpose. Even though you reverted it which I strongly abhor, I do take offense to the fact that you try and whitewash my edit as a "test," which according to you "worked." Please verify in the future the intention of the edits that you revert so that you do not make a similar mistake.
Kindly yours,
61.213.76.87 (talk) 08:55, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Torrid/ hot topic
I'm attempting to change the articles to use a more neutral, definable, widely used term. This is not some "boo fat chicks" thing, it's a "boo, euphemisms" thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.97.98.207 (talk) 00:55, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
blogs are reliable sources
Hi, I undid your removal of sources at Pioneer Courthouse Square. There isn't a lot of room in the editsummary, so I thought I'd post here. Both of those blogs are "offical" blogs of semi-respectable newspapers (alternative weeklies): Willamette Week and The Portland Mercury.
It took me a while to find it, because it's a note on WP:V, but footnote 4 begins as follows:
"Blogs" in this context refers to personal and group blogs. Some newspapers host interactive columns that they call blogs, and these may be acceptable as sources so long as the writers are professionals and the blog is subject to the newspaper's full editorial control. (...)
Apologies if you were already familiar with this caveat. Cheers, tedder (talk) 01:33, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Need advice/help with VHS
Hi, I have a possible edit conflict with an anon user at the VHS article. Basically, he's entering unsourced information regarding purchasing VHS tapes at eBay. I've already told him that what he did was original research, reaching a conclusion on his own, and that eBay is not a reliable source, but rather it is a garage sale, and that anyone can find discontinued products there. I've already RV'd twice, and I don't want to approach the 3RR rule. Any help or advice would be appreciated. Groink (talk) 07:04, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, me again. VHS still needs your help. The anon is very persistent. Groink (talk) 22:09, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Gay bathhouse external links
Hi, with regard to your recent edit to Gay bathhouse (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), you probably missed the discussion on the talk page (Talk:Gay bathhouse#External links falling foul of WP:NOTDIRECTORY) on this very topic. I plan to reverse your edits on the basis that there has been plenty of time for prior discussion should you disagree with the original suggestion and a significant change such as this requires some reasonable discussion first. I understand that your concern may have been the most recent addition of an external link and I would not personally disagree with you removing it.—Teahot (talk) 11:53, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Thank you
for the welcome. I will let you know if anything goes awry. Dursty (talk) 01:25, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Where's the Betrayed page?
Yesterday, I wrote an article for the book Betrayed by P.C. Cast. But when I tried to get back to it today, it was gone. Can you help me? By the way, thanks for welcoming me. --Bntz (talk) 06:54, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Formatting tables
seabreeze 1001 how do you put a table of information on the left hand side of a wikipedia article —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seabreeze1001 (talk • contribs) 16:02, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Roman Abramovich
OK, I'll stop. BTW, my intension was not to cause any offense to anyone. Thanks ;) --Bugnot (talk) 20:49, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
if you're in the neighborhood
I am considering going live with User:MichaelQSchmidt/sandbox/National Fibromyalgia Association. I'm feeling pretty good about 10 hours of work. Please take a look and advise of any concerns. Thank you, MichaelQSchmidt (talk) 07:48, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Andy Murray
I'm taking this onto your page - I think the users on the Andy Murray page have long since formed the view that you and I are unlikely to agree.
- "We cannot be everything to everyone. I'd be grateful if you could show me where that is written on WP:NOT." - Well, if you really cant actually tell, very word of the page is dedicated to the premise that we cannot be everything to everyone and we focus on what makes us an encyclopedia. And while the site in question does contain "professional athlete statistics", it is not "a unique resource" for those stats.
No, I can't "actually tell" and I dislike being patronised quite so openly. What I can see, from your response, is that you have chosen to paraphrase WP:NOT into a single pithy line to suit your argument and somehow justify that as being a reason why one should not try to be "useful and helpful".David T Tokyo (talk) 03:38, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- No, not deliberately obtuse (I'm not like that at all btw) and despite the collection of links, I still don't read it that way - although I can obviously see how some might. My angle on this has always been from the users side - a direction that I picked up from a lifetime in business. It's a shame we don't agree but not the end of the world. Let's leave it at that. David T Tokyo (talk) 04:35, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads-up on the sock puppet thing. Appreciated. David T Tokyo (talk) 19:16, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
Lindsay Graham and "opinion piece"
Is there a Wikipedia policy which I am unaware of which forbids linking to opinion pieces, especially if the information is represented in the article as being a particular prominent person's opinion? Otherwise, your justification of your removal of the section seems unjustified.--Larrybob (talk) 06:18, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- I think it would be of utility to other editors if this conversation continues at Talk:Lindsey Graham--Larrybob (talk) 18:02, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Andrew Peach
Hi. Have redirected the page to BBC Radio 2, the thing he is most well known for, and I'll de-link him from there. As the page is permenantly protected protected we shouldn't have any problems with people trying to restore it. Cheers TheRetroGuy (talk) 08:32, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Gomolo
I have been seeing this too. They are flooding every page related to Indian Movies and Indian actors. I think we should be taking this too editors and stop their spam flooding. Nadesai (talk) 18:31, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Heidi Klum
This content is not originally mine and was posted by someone else. I was interested in this topic and saw many changes happen to it over time. The main poster apparently had this discussion with one of the editors 5-6 month ago and I helped out in the discussion. Finally, a consensus was achieved and the text was posted. Now, new editors came up and started deleting the text. As you might see in history, when original poster asked for explanation, he was not given any. Eventually, he left this topic alone claiming that the editors are racists and would not understand this. I asked for explanations and no one provided any. You left me with no choice but to start undoing the changes. When I did that you ask me for an explanation?
Please stop threatening me. My views are not biased, and if you think they are, please do correct them. Simply removing the content is not a solution, at least not in my opinion. Worst come worst, you block my IP. I have ways to fix that. Instead, I would ask the Indian community I moderate (with over 50000 members) to visit this page daily and undo the changes. I am not sure if you guys would really appreciate the effort you might have to put in to block over 50K IPs.
The goal here is not an edit war. Goal here is to come up with a consensus and that dialogue should happen from both sides. It really does not work that i do not explanation for deletions and you ask for explanations for me undoing the change. if you want to consider this a war, I will fight for what i think is right. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.204.51.40 (talk) 01:17, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Gackt
I don't know what and who you are, but Gackt Camui changed his stage name from Gackt to GACKT, go to his official web page, look at RR II tour or 10th anniversary countdown singles. All what I done, I am for his popularity. He is from June GACKT and stop deleteing it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.164.5.157 (talk) 07:22, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Hello, and thanks for the welcome
RPOD -- Hello, and thanks for the welcome, and the links. I really enjoyed the work that I did in the last couple of days. In particular, I've focused on editing pages devoted to fiction that I've read. I'd like to bring those pages a little more into line with Wikipedia's standards, but I'm not sure how to do so.
Do you have any advice on what information I can add to help the stub articles move up to start articles? Any suggestions on what would be good references for the reference section? I'm not asking for you to do my homework for me, just give me a smidge of inspiration.
Thanks!
--Elegantelbow (talk) 13:22, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Names
I had to revert your recent edits on Asin Thottumkal despite yours being good faith edits. Asin is never and will never be referred to with her surname. For example, take Rajinikanth or even Madonna who are referred to via their stage and first name. Universal Hero (talk) 18:18, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
Andy Murray RFC and COI
I can see you are summarizing the RFC in progress. Having been attracted to the RFC, I was not that familiar with the talk page history or separate user page discussions. I am somewhat uncomfortable with the history of RFC's (or their equivalent) on this page and the potential influence and canvassing activities of users with a declared (see Mark7144 (talk · contribs), it is impossible to check undeclared users) COI with the fansite in question. If there are potentially a number of editors with an interest in the fansite, it would be difficult to assume an unbiased RFC process if their COI is undeclared or not understood by those taking part in the RFC.
I was thinking of adding a comment (similar to the SPA comment) to the RFC in progress but have held off now you are summarizing the discussion so far but do wonder if this should be generally highlighted as an ongoing issue for a credible consensus as the fansite is the exact topic of the RFC.—Teahot (talk) 16:51, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
Einstuerzende Neubauten
I removed the material and after flagging up issues here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Einst%C3%BCrzende_Neubauten#Language_corrections —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.41.247.186 (talk) 21:14, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
Apologies
Apologies for my edit to the Russell Brand article. I thought it might be necessary to include his rather left-wing political views. Exiledone (talk) 23:19, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
Andy Murray personal attack accusation
Could you take a look at Milomedes' accusation against me on the Andy Murray RFC and give me a little reassurance I've not got my head on back to front. It's all rather odd, particularly after I asked for a more detailed reference on his/her user page and got garbage back. i am starting to wonder if it is just evidence of an wp:ownership problem or something more daft than that. Here's a diff to take you to the right area.—Teahot (talk) 02:18, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
- Good advice. I'll cool it, ignore it and get my sense of humour back. Thank you —Ash (talk) 07:12, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Gackt singles
The three individual Gackt singles you have been redirecting to the main article are part of his 10th anniversary release, which is stated clearly in the text. It is a stub. There is no deadline. Just leave them be and they will be improved in due time.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 04:01, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
There is a statement of notability in that they say they are part of the anniversary releases. Just because there are no references on the articles currently does not mean that they should not exist at all. Stop redirecting them, please.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 04:13, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
They now have independent third party sources.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 04:17, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Andy Murray edit correction
[Withdrawn post removed.]
I withdraw that, I have just rechecked the same thing and it makes sense to me now. I have no idea what the problem was.—Ash (talk) 15:33, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
- Total post strikes typically don't show in searches. In our mutual best interests, and assuming your consent, I've retitled and removed your withdrawn post. Milo 20:12, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Sania Mirza
You provided no justification for the Sania Mirza revert. So I undid it. I am also reviewing my own edits, to look for anything that may be considered POV. If you think my edits are unjustified, please explain and come to unanimity before reverting it. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ManasShaikh (talk • contribs) 17:01, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Rajinikanth
I am reverting the article back to its previous version. I will search for and remove any unverifiable/unsourced/personal commentary statements myself. This article was written up in good faith by only a couple editors so there is no way there would be so many POV statements. Please give it some time before I go through the article carefully. Any other disputes, please discuss it on the article's talk page. Thanks. Eelam StyleZ (talk) 16:37, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
- There were no editors who wrote personal fan sites that wrote this article, which includes me. I don't know who you're talking about. I am not being disruptive so there is no reason for you to have me blocked. But your edits are almost blanking the entire article--not just this one but several others too. I concurred with your edits to articles like Tamil cinema and Joseph Vijay, but not Rajinikanth which is basically a complete article. The article was also given a B class rating. The unsourced statements are not POV statements. There is nothing in the article which is totally inappropriate or contoversial. Eelam StyleZ (talk) 14:44, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- All right, I'll leave it to your version and find sources for the previous one and once sources have been given to those, I will revert back (also promise to remove any unsourced personal commentaries I may find) — hopefully it will live up to your likings. Peace. Eelam StyleZ (talk) 15:00, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
Real-Life Superheroes
I apologize for using your talk page once again to communicate with you. I would like you to review once again http://www.reallifesuperheroes.org and see if it meets the standards for it to be listed on real life superhero page as a external link. I believe I have posted enough content to represent the sub culture as a whole. Thank you very much. ZETAMAN (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 09:02, 1 August 2009 (UTC).
Referencing
What does referencing have to with an edit of yours which doesn't help the article at all? Your edits to the plot gave a more negative outcome than positive. --TIAYN (talk) 00:58, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- I'm going to bed soon, i'll continue this discussion tomorrow with you. --TIAYN (talk) 01:07, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
Mohanlal Websites
Oh, I'm sorry. Thank u for the Information. But www.thecompleteactor.com is not a fan site. It is Mohanlal's official website containg his blog with his own handwrite. can i add it. Thank u Adgr8 20:11, 4 Aug 2009
Removal of PROD from Kutladampatti Falls
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Warning
Please use the talk page if you are making changes that go against the general spirit of Wikipedia. Being aware of NPOV and NOR is not enough. Wikilawyering is not a nice thing. Edit warring is not a nice thing. Blanking entire pages is not what Wikipedia needs.
I think generally you have some kind of willingness to improve, but it shouldn't come at the expense of others' work. Your "cleanup"s have long gone over the top and been exaggerated. If you do something that others oppose to, you MUST discuss it on the talk page to prevent any edit war. Shahid Kapoor is a great example, because the policies you keep throwing do not really support the removal of titles from section headings. We have already discussed this on the talk page of Hrithik Roshan. You had nothing really to add, and now you start again. These titles are used to logically summarise the content of the sections or the first paragraph of the sections. There's no reason to remove the simple word breakthrough. It is supported by many sources through the entire section. Just like we summarise the entire article in the lead, we summarise the section in the heading title with a word or a phrase. That's why career sections are split into many subsections, divided according to the phase and/or the period. If it wasn't necessary to add titles, there would be no reason to split sections at all. It's common sense. I started another discussion on the talk page. Feel free to discuss it, and don't revert before the discussion is ENDED and a decision is taken. Otherwise, I think this time it's better for you to find some noticeboard which will give you a broader number of users' opinions, and then remove them all from the many GAs and FAs which use such titles (I would love to see you fighting for NPOV causes on these pages too, I would really love to see that!).
Also, as I see on the Priyanka Chopra article. Why are you just deleting entire sentences? Can you call them nonsense or illogical descriptions? If they're unsourced, then be BOLD (I'm sure you have not heard of this) and cite sources; if you don't want to (quite exspected, I've never seen you adding even one source - only blanking), then request a source. Why always remove? Not to mention that you left quite a misleading statement that she won awards for Dostana, which is not correct.
I'm yet to check your "cleanup" on Asin, then I'll decide what I think is right to do and whether I should revert you. I'm quite unfamiliar with the subject. It's major blanking, but I don't know what you've done. Other than that, I found it quite funny that you made a cleanup by blanking half the page, and after that still added tags about it being POV and OR.
I hope it was clear. Shahid • Talk2me 08:59, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
- "Subjective opinions presented as declarative statements in articles" - let me surprise you by telling you that I'm against this as well. Sources always must be cited and everything must be neutral. However, a positive commentary does not authmatically become POV. I don't doubt that your motives are good, but if you are going to do things the way you do, I can assure you that I'm going to go out of my way to fight your beahviour. Again, throwing "POV! POV! OR!!!" everywhere makes no sense. This is an encyclopedia, the info should be relevant, objective, neutral, but not completely bland. WP:NPOV says we should present both sides. If someone succeeded in something we should mention it (or better said - describe it). If someone failed we should mention it. This of course needs to be done with sources. But the way you do what you do is at times pathetic and highly disappointing. Please respect other editors' intelligence. Making DRASTIC edits to different articles and then reverting those who disagree with you by just saying "Puffery, POV, OR" is the most classic example of wikilawyering and edit warring. Why wouldn't you visit the Asin talk page?! You see that one editor is offended by your editing and feels disheartened at your way of working, so why wouldn't you go section by section if it's really important to you to adhere to all the possible policies and guidelines and turn this article into a decent one? You can ask me to join you and you'll see how much I want this article to be better.
- During all this time of our involvement on the same articles, you've witnessed my willingness to collaborate with you. Everytime you questioned something, I was always there to accept your requirements, respect your work, copyedit an article and add sources when needed. You can't deny that can you? You yourself thanked me several times for that.
- Who said there should be no split subsections for actors' career sections?? When there is a clear necessity/way of breaking a long career section into subsections per periods and phases, it should definitely be done. And if it is done, it is clearly done for a reason, and this very reason is called "summary".
- Check out my cleanup on the John Abraham article (diff). You'll see that just like you I'm against POV/OR and I'm also against creating unnecessary sub-sections (see that). You're not dealing with a fool. I was the main editor of a well invested BLP FA, which was edited by many editors who went out of they ways to improve it.
- Many of the things which for some reason you oppose to, constitute the most common aspects of the structure and writing style of many FAs, which are considered the best articles on Wikipedia and were wholeheartedly accepted by the community. Which means you go against consensus. Take a read through Bette Davis or Angelina Jolie, and try to make the same kind of edits on their articles if you dare. I'm not saying the articles you edit can be compared to those I mentioned, but there are very basic aspects that you just invalidate by citing policies like POV and OR. It is much more than just that. Shahid • Talk2me 20:13, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- Claims like blockbuster, successful are NEVER POV when they're properly sourced. If a film is cited as "commercially successful" it means a film earned much money at the box office. If the film is cited as "critically acclaimed" then it was appreciated by criticas. That it needs to be sourced goes without saying.
- Anyway, I said one thing and you replied something completely different. Shahid • Talk2me 20:45, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
"his eyes open in a blank stare, dead"
Dear Mr Doom, please see this. -- Hoary (talk) 03:53, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
David Ferguson (impresario)
Hello again! I really appreciate your help in reviewing the article David Ferguson (impresario) and commenting on the talk page. I stumbled across this article in June, 2009 and decided it needed some attention. Despite User:DoriSmith's implications about WP:SPA editors, I have nothing to do with that history. She, however, has a long history of negative edits on this article that go back into last year. She refers to anyone who edits the article as "flying SPA monkeys"--which is rather offensive--and will not permit banners to be removed regardless of improvements and resolution of problems. There's a serious problem here with User:DoriSmith's non-NPOV. It appears that some gaming the system is taking place, contrary to Wikipedia's goals.
I wanted you to know that I've rolled the article back to User:Tabletop's last edit of 07-20-09 in order to recover lost text and citations that I'd been researching for improvement of sources to conform to Wikipedia standards. Further details of my edits are contained in my post of 08-10-09 at Talk: David Ferguson (impresario). deb (talk) 09:39, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
While I agree with you that the notability of an article for the title sequence by itself is somewhat lacking, a Prop. Del. is not the way to do it. If anything, AfD should be used as it gives others ample ability to debate the merits of an article or to propose alternatives such as a merger, especially in the case of such an article where significant third-party sourcing outside of a wikia article is not possible. ⒺⓋⒾⓁⒼⓄⒽⒶⓃ② talk 15:57, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
James Meredith (footballer)
Fair enough, but where does WP:RS state that tabloid newspapers (or "gossip rags") are discounted as reliable sources? Mattythewhite (talk) 19:58, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
I've blocked the IP you were edit-warring with at the above article. Please do note, however, that you did violate the three-revert rule yourself there - it was not blatant vandalism. While I agree that his edits weren't helpful, it would have been advisable to look for third-party assistance earlier in the dispute. ~ mazca talk 22:26, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
The Daily Mirror
Is a reliable source and that particular article isn't based on gossip. --Jimbo[online] 22:33, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Havic: The Bothering
The article Havic: The Bothering has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
- non-notable - no third party sourcing
While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}}
notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{dated prod}}
will stop the Proposed Deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The Speedy Deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and Articles for Deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. -- The Red Pen of Doom 23:22, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
This article should not be deleated because it is about the collectible card game Havic: The Bothering. It was one of the many collectible card games printed during the 1990’s and belongs in the Collectible card game category. The game Havic: The Bothering is notable because it relates to the other collectible card game Magic: The Gathering because of the legal issues raised in the printing of Havic: The Bothering. The article about Havic: The Bothering should not be deleted because it also has third party sourcing listed in the refrence section of the article.Nicholasweed (talk) 16:36, 09 August 2009 (UTC)
Removed speedy deletion tag: Guzaarish
Hi TheRedPenOfDoom! I just wanted to inform you that I removed the speedy deletion tag you placed on Guzaarish- because: the page has not previously been deleted via a deletion discussion. If you have any questions or comments, please do not hesitate to contact me. decltype (talk) 07:54, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Done
I deleted the revision and emailed oversight to make sure it's really gone. Enter CambridgeBayWeather, waits for audience applause, not a sausage 12:57, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Ajith Kumar
Hi
Concerning this edit: I don't think that was a "test edit". First, there's been quite some POV pushing about the origin of the father. From all the sources I've found, I believe Palakkad Iyer is the most precise. There's also a section on this on the talk page, even though only one other editor commented on it. Second, I'm unsure about your changes from "Ajith" to "Kumar" throughout the article, which was undone in the same "test edit". I've made the same change a while ago, but was told by another editor that Kumar isn't his last name, but "a generic-sort-of appendage (I'll leave it at that for brevity) to Indian first names that has nothing to do with the family name. It is part of the given name."
I know nothing about Indian/Tamil names in general or Ajith Kumar in particular, but from all sources I checked it's true that he is never addressed as "Kumar".
Amalthea 13:06, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
- Seems that you have repeated that change. Do you think the above information is incorrect? Amalthea 07:44, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
- oops - I did not realize it was the same article. It does appear that the reliable sources in the article use Ajith and I dont have time to find if any of our policies or guidelines have addressed the usage issue. I dont have time to change it from Kumar to Ajith before heading to work, please feel free to do so. -- The Red Pen of Doom 12:05, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
- OK, did that. If you find it covered by any guideline either way, please let me know, there are a number of other articles where this is a bit unclear.
Thanks, Amalthea 14:41, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
- OK, did that. If you find it covered by any guideline either way, please let me know, there are a number of other articles where this is a bit unclear.
- oops - I did not realize it was the same article. It does appear that the reliable sources in the article use Ajith and I dont have time to find if any of our policies or guidelines have addressed the usage issue. I dont have time to change it from Kumar to Ajith before heading to work, please feel free to do so. -- The Red Pen of Doom 12:05, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Would you mind looking over this article, and its principle sources, and commenting on the most recent (bottommost) section of talk? Thanks,Slrubenstein | Talk 16:01, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Reply
Thanks for the message.
See I read per the policy you cited, "Because the lead will usually repeat information also in the body, editors should balance the desire to avoid redundant citations in the lead with the desire to aid readers in locating sources for challengeable material. Leads are usually written at a greater level of generality than the body, and information in the lead section of non-controversial subjects is less likely to be challenged and less likely to require a source; there is not, however, an exception to citation requirements specific to leads."
I think it's important to source info that, though considered to be a summary, is not directly mentioned in the text, or info that even if it's directly mentioned and sourced, is somehow controversial. Before I re-added what you had removed, I made a check through the article and everthing that is mentioned in the lead (of what you removed) is mentioned and sourced. Other than that, I don't think that saying a few films are commercially successful is that of a big deal - it's not an exceptional claim. I believe many editors have this page on their watchlist, no reason to have it disappeared. Shahid • Talk2me 13:29, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
- I added much more elaborated messages on the talk page, explaining everything with sources, and I added several sources to the article as well. Anyway, I already told you that I'm gonna fight any kind of injustice, wikilawyering, edit warring from your part. I'm frankly very disappointed at your behaviour and your insistence to go into minute detail just to get your own at the expense of others' work. Shahid • Talk2me 21:27, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Why are you doing this on that particular page if so many particular articles use it? Shahid • Talk2me 08:12, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi. I don't understand your recnt edits to this article. You added a comma and a period to the end of a sentence, and you removed a see also and a category. Any ideas? Viriditas (talk) 03:18, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Reversions
Hi there,
When reverting unconstructive edits as you did here, you might like to check that editor's other contributions. For example, the same IP had made unconstructive edits to several other pages. It's just an easy way to help keep Wikipedia in good shape.
Cheers, Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 14:37, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
You really left "the promising young star has attained glory" in this mess of an article? Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 04:32, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
I could use your help on World domination
I've come across your "red pen" many times, and to be frank I've followed it and looked for ways to improve articles. You've always has a good eye for issues that need to be fixed, both micro and macro. I've recently come across an article called World Domination which I feel is unreferenced, uncited, and wp:or. After an attempt to fix it, I've given up and applied my own "red pen". I'd really appreciate your view on the article. I think its going to get nasty--Work permit (talk) 06:37, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
I've been struggling with this article for some time. It seems that "the roman salute" is interpreted by some editors as "anyone sticking their hand up". Other editors decided "I went overboard" by tagging statements with "citations". Could you take a look at this article? I hate being "the bad guy", but I recently got fed up and started deleting statements I should have months ago--Work permit (talk) 08:14, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Is it allowed?
Pls see the External Links of the article Prithviraj Sukumaran. Is such kinds of links are needed in wikipedia articles? Before when i added suchlinks in Mohanlal article u delete it. Pls consider my request - Talk2me' 19:18, 16 Aug 2009
Kollywood !
kindly redirect "Kollywood !" to tamil cinema cuz there r a lot tamil cinema's worldwide apart frm tamilcinema ...... kollywood would be great & now itzz a mess ...... kindly assist how to proceed to retain .....Doctor muthu's muthu wanna talk ? 10:21, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
GreyWolfy
I came here to tell you I apologize and regret what I said to you before, even I know this will not change your mind about me.. Hope you will listen to me, and we will cooperate each other, and mostly you help me and teach me about things I would not understand. Belive me, all what up to now I edited in Gackt article was true, so please understand me. I am doing this for Gackt Camui, even I am not in his official fanbase or in his company but for pleasure, he has done in only 10 years plenty of thigns and would be wrong if the world couldn't knew it, at least few..
I will re-edit whole Gackt article, so I call you for all understanding and time I need to do it this night. Mostly of updates and news aren't going to have "sources" regularly, but two-three sources for whole "text", neverthless you will see and for few time I will bring all "sources" back and put to others what wouldn't had it, if you woudln't agree with me. It is going to be great,no amazing for me, you will see. (Note! >> After my re-editing to not remove what I will post there, just send me a message, or some note on "edit this page" )
I hope you will support me,
GreyWolfy --GreyWolfy (talk) 18:32, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Red Pen of Doom, everything you said made little sense. If Pastis said it, then it has to be true. That's just how it works, right? After all, Pastis made the strip. He controls all the rules. --WeezleBeezle (talk) 20:23, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Regarding List of Mudaliars article
I have given many Wikipedia:Sources stating Tiruppur Kumaran is regarded as Martyr by Indians. Its not my POV. Not at all even if you say the the heading Martyr is a POV. Its cited with evidences. The word martyr can be atleast in the description line. Else there is no use of citing references in that article--Sureshmaran (talk) 13:59, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Articles having non-notable names and non-reliable sources
There are many non-notable names in Kongu Vellalar and List of Vanniars articles. So there is a need to clean up non-notable names in these articles--Sureshmaran (talk) 14:05, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Prithviraj Sukumaran
Excessive Trimming !!??
I see that the some sections have been trimmed mercilessly by The Red Pen of Doom. Now the article has no facts at all, just blunt statements.
See these two statements,
- He performed in Stop Violence and Swapnakoodu.
- Prithviraj performed in Parijatham and in 2007's Mozhi.
What does "Performed" mean here? I didnt quite understand why its used. All actors perform in their films. What is special about using the word performed here?
The trimming of facts have made this an un-imaginitive article, which goes on stating he "performed" in this, acted in that.. etc..
If the significance of those films in his career isnt mentioned, it serves no better than the filmography section.
- Icedaddycool (talk) 08:18, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Filmography
You have removed all films that was marked "To be announced", Well and good..
But The films marked "Announced" have come up in multiple media including magazines, websites and television.
The film ANWAR has been mentioned by Prithviraj himself on his twitter page : http://twitter.com/lionheart_ps
Prithviraj himself confirmed that he has committed to The 19th Step in a recent magazine Interview.
Director Lal Jose mentioned in a recent TV interview that Cousins is his next project of 2010.
and the other films as well have been reported in Various Magazines and websites.
But all these arent the "high quality news sources" as specified by Wikipedia because these are films in a local language and the coverage they get on National news sites is literally nil. Also, most of the time, the reports will be in the Malayalam or Tamil language. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Icedaddycool (talk • contribs) 08:19, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
- Icedaddycool (talk) 08:20, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for all the "help" you did for Prithviraj Sukumaran. It would be nice if you showed the same "dedication" to wiki pages of bigger stars like Suresh Gopi and Dileep (actor)
- Icedaddycool (talk) 06:40, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Serena van der Woodsen
Hi. Regarding your attempt to redirect this page to that of the series, you do realise that there are several other Gossip Girl character articles with the same issues, right? Only the Blair Waldorf article may be sufficiently sourced and notable. Just wondering why you singled that Serena article out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.249.84.80 (talk) 22:53, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Kim Chambers
Ok, first of all, stop following and spying on me. Second of all, there is no such thing as white ethnicity. Ethnicity refers to someone's ethnic background (for example, if you are an Irish American, your ethnicity is Irish) and not to the race. Norum (talk) 09:29, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
As for "no such thing as American ethnicity", please read the following. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_ethnicity Kim might have some other ethnicity in her, but because she was born in the USA, she should be considered as ethnically American (plus whatever else she is). Norum (talk) 15:31, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Iam.Spark55
Re: Fanpage / Official page. I have a hard time believing that anyone is so vain they title their official page heroME. The site also refers to Ram in the third person and so while it claims to be "official page", I am still not convinced.
- Content should not be deleted just by your belief, you should go by the facts. In case, you dont believe it, prove that it is not an official page.I am not sure if someone has to convince you for every addition in a wiki article. Please make sure that you undo the meaningless deletions you have done immediately.
Re: Sources - Please see our requirements that sources are Reliable - that is that they have a reputation for fact checking and accuracy. The site that you have used appears to be a celebrity gossip site and not to meet our criteria.
- First of all, the website you are mentioning is not at all a gossip or some kind of website. It is a website maintained by the Telugu Film Industry/Telugu Film Chamber itself. I am sure that you are not all related or know about this topic or article or telugu film industr.
- Secondly, what am I supposed to do if I copy some data from a website, shouldn't I keep the reference for that ???? Or do I need to remove the content I have copied to the wiki from that website ???
- Also, don't ever dream that you are a genius...it will be the joke of the century.