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Origin of the name Jew, Judah, or Yehuda

I believe that there definitely should be a mention that the name Yehuda, the base word for the Jewish people and there respective religion is derived from the two Ancient Hebrew words Yah, a shortened form of the name of G-d, and the Hebrew word Hud which means to follow, worship, or praise. together the words mean "to worship/praise Yah" or "the worship/praising of Yah". This can be confirmed in the Wikipedia article Judah (Bible) where it correctly states that the name means "to praise G-d". Also the biblical name for Judaism, ha-Dër′ëkh (the way), may also be mentioned.

2004 census in Argentina

According to 2004 Census in Argentina there are 244000 jews in Buenos Aires and an overall estimated 280000-300000 in the whole country. Please visit at least this page: http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=710563 and correct wrong figures. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.82.55.36 (talk) 16:33, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If Jew is an ethnicity?

What are black Jews? 97.118.33.205 (talk) 17:16, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Black and Jewish. —chaos5023 (talk) 17:20, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

97.118.33.205 — I would say this inquiry would best be placed on the Humanities reference desk. Bus stop (talk) 18:21, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

Why is Israel centered in the infobox, and all the other countries justified? Purplebackpack89 ^{(Notes Taken) (Locker)} 04:39, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to be for the same reason Nigeria is centered on Yoruba people. The centered country is either the state of the nation (nation here signifying a group of people sharing aspects of language, culture and/or ethnicity) or the state with the highest population. Please direct further questions concerning the Infobox to Template talk:Infobox Jews. Intelligentsium 22:20, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jews in Israel

as of april 2010 there are 5,726,000 jews in israel.http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3878214,00.html -its towards the end of the article--Marbehtorah-marbehchaim (talk) 03:22, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The number in the article (a) matches the number in the infobox and (b) comes from the same source as most of the other countries' Jewish populations. This makes cross-country comparisons meaningful. Ynet doesn't say where its estimate comes from. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 03:30, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The number is from the ICBS www.cbs.gov.il. The Jewish population of Israel is growing by around 100,000 a year so the figure has to be updated to the last one. Benjil (talk) 15:43, 3 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have been pushing for somebody to update the figures. Ive provided plenty of credible more updated data on the jewish population yet nothing has been done. In this case I think there is no debate that the CBS is a very reliable source. --Gwax23 (talk) 00:10, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Images in the Infobox

The infobox has the images of some remarkable Jews, but not really a number that does them credit. I suggest including the all-time favourites: Freud (psychoanalysis), Marx (Communism) and Haber (the Haber process keeps 1 third of the world's population alive) - all Jews, all brilliant men --Earthprophet (talk) 19:07, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The question has been discussed many times, both here and at Template talk:Infobox Jews. You can search the archives for the various discussions, but the short version is that the current montage achieves gender balance and balance between Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews.

Having said that, consensus can change, and you are welcome to start a new discussion about changing the montage. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 19:18, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

MtDNA

I want to expand the mtDNA section! There are a lot of exciting research in that area! And because the Jewish mtDNA haplogroups coincides with the Europeans, it need to expand! —Preceding unsigned comment added by CantorFriedman (talk • contribs) 08:37, 10 May 2010 (UTC) CantorFriedman (talk) 12:35, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed this material:

In Europe a high level of haplogroup K is found in the Morbihan (17.5%) and Périgord-Limousin (15.3%) regions of France, and in Norway and Bulgaria (13.3%).^[1] The level is 12.5% in Belgium, 11% in Georgia and 10% in Austria and Great Britain. ^[2]

It suffers from two problems:

a) The studies quoted here don't actually mention Jews, as far as I can tell (please correct me if I'm wrong). In order to avoid WP:NOR, one must use sources that actually discuss the topic of this article which is Jews, not haplogroup K.

b) It's too much detail for this article, in any event. There's a whole sub-article on Genetic studies on Jews, where material this detailed might be appropriate, but this article is just a summary/overview article, so we can't have a disproportionate amount of text devoted to the genetics of a specific hapologroup in a specific sub-group of Jewish women.

--Jayjg ^(talk) 12:12, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

But, as a Jew (or non jew?!), it is very interesting to read where the dna derives from! Thats the point with these genetic studies, to se where and when these haplogroups occurred/arose! Or where they exists today, to understand migrations. Thats why the information about other continents/countries/places is important. 81.226.72.14 (talk) 21:04, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

^ Vincent Dubut et al., mtDNA polymorphisms in five French groups: importance of regional sampling, European Journal of Human Genetics vol. 12 (2004), pp. 293–300.
^ Lucia Simoni, Francesc Calafell, Davide Pettener, Jaume Bertranpetit, and Guido Barbujani, Geographic Patterns of mtDNA Diversity in Europe, American Journal of Human Genetics, vol. 66 (2000), pp. 262–278.

[1] Vincent Dubut et al., mtDNA polymorphisms in five French groups: importance of regional sampling, European Journal of Human Genetics vol. 12 (2004), pp. 293–300.

[2] Lucia Simoni, Francesc Calafell, Davide Pettener, Jaume Bertranpetit, and Guido Barbujani, Geographic Patterns of mtDNA Diversity in Europe, American Journal of Human Genetics, vol. 66 (2000), pp. 262–278.

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