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New category: Mount Shasta

FYI: I created and populated Category:Mount Shasta and subcat Category:Glaciers of Mount Shasta.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ikluft (talkcontribs) 20:31, July 28, 2009

History of the Yosemite area - Featured article review

I have nominated History of the Yosemite area for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Tpbradbury (talkcontribs) 03:45, March 17, 2010

WikiProject San Diego

I have formed a WikiProject to organize San Diego. If anybody interested, please add your name on the participants. If have have questions about it, please feel free to add comments. JJ98 (Talk) 21:41, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So you know, depending on what activity and participants it might get, this new San Diego WikiProject may eventually be relegated to a task force instead, just like what happened to those pertaining to Southern California, Santa Barbara County, Los Angeles, Inland Empire, and San Francisco Bay Area. Zzyzx11 (talk) 23:45, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Zzyzx is probably right. The aforementioned projects have had some problems with getting participants, as has this project Purplebackpack89 23:58, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, I might convert into a San Diego task force just like Southern California, Santa Barbara County, Los Angeles, Inland Empire, and San Francisco Bay Area. JJ98 (Talk) 01:43, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Drop me a note on my talk page if you want to convert San Diego to a task force. I've done all the other ones so I should be able to knock it out fairly quickly. I'd also echo the others comments about it being difficult to recruit and maintain members for a project. I would go so far as to recommend talking to the other state projects and possibly merging everyone up into the US one. While having the local regional/identity is nice, the ratio of project participants to project work in addition to article work makes it difficult not to get bogged down in bureaucracy. -Optigan13 (talk) 05:13, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with making San Diego a task force.
I also linked it with the Spanish Wikipedia San Diego project and notified User:Alex537, who created the Spanish project and is active on both the English and Spanish wikipedias.
WhisperToMe (talk) 09:13, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that this should have been made into a task force. As far as the merging of state WPs up to WPUS, Kumioko is trying to merge the state talk banners under the U.S. one currently, and is having difficulty getting consensus. Cmcnicoll (talk) 19:55, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I concur with this notion. --PCB 06:11, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Orange County redirect?

I am aware that this issue was decided back in 2006, HOWEVER, I would like to bring up the possibility of having Orange County redirect to Orange County, California and create a disambiguation page for the others. The most famous Orange County is the one in California, an it's not even close. When traveling around the United States or abroad, I say I am from Orange County and people immediately know where I am from, no one asks "which one?" Also, if Orange County is to be lumped together with all other counties of the same name, then we should do the same for the many different cities and locales that go by Los Angeles, San Francisco, London, or even California (there is a California, Pennsylvania). Thank you for your feedback and the support of those who are part of this Wikiproject would be greatly appreciated. --CASportsFan (talk) 06:38, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Initiate a move request if you wish, but I don't think your personal experience is enough to justify a move at this time. Does whatlinkshere, traffic ststs, or google searches support your assertion? -Optigan13 (talk) 07:12, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've replied at Talk:Orange County, which is probably the best place to discuss this.   Will Beback  talk  07:29, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have placed a move request on both Orange County, I figured it would be easiest to discuss the matter at Talk:Orange County. --CASportsFan (talk) 08:09, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

US Collaboration reactivated & Portal:United States starting next

Casliber recently posted a suggestion on the talk page for WikiProject United States about getting the US Wikipedians Collaboration page going again in an effort to build up articles for GA through FA class. See Wikipedia:U.S. Wikipedians' notice board/USCOTM. After several days of work from him the page is up and ready for action. A few candidates have already been added for you to vote on or you can submit one using the directions provided. If you are looking for inspiration here is a link to the most commonly viewed articles currently under the scope of Wikiproject United States. There are tons of good articles in the various US related projects as well so feel free to submit any article relating to US topics (not just those under the scope of WPUS). This noticeboard is intended for ‘’’All’’’ editors working on US subjects, not just those under WPUS.

The next item I intend to start updating is Portal:United States if anyone is interested in helping. Again this is not specific to WPUS and any help would be greatly appreciated to maximize visibility of US topics. The foundation has already been established its just a matter of updating the content with some new images, biographies and articles. Please let leave a comment on the Portals talk page or let me know if you have any questions or ideas. --Kumioko (talk) 19:04, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"The" Los Angeles Times?

Somebody has changed the category name to "The" Los Angeles Times people. What is going on? The name of the newspaper is Los Angeles Times. Category talk:The Los Angeles Times people. Really confused I am, sincerely yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 19:53, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, George, doesn't make sense. I know the NYT cats and pages are like that, but the LAT doesn't put the "the" on the front page every day. I've started Categories for discussion regarding Category:The Los Angeles Times people and Category:The Los Angeles Times, which you and other members of WPCali are welcome to participate in Purplebackpack89 15:43, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

California Collabaration?

We should make a Collabaration of the month like WikiProjct USA is doing. If we get people to work together on articles maybe we can get more GAs and FAs about California. Article like Juan Rodríguez Cabrillo and Junípero Serra would be perfect articles to collaborate on since they are very important in California history but the articles arnt as good as they should be. Spongie555 (talk) 06:41, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relationship with WikiProject United States

People from a variety of WikiProjects have had concerns about the scope of WikiProject United States and its relationship with other WikiProjects. We have created an RFC and invite all interested editors to discuss it at: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject United States#Mission statement for WikiProject United States. Thanks, Racepacket (talk) 15:33, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just to clarify the misrepresentative statement left above. 4 or 5 editors (most work on the same couple projects) have voiced concern of the Scope of the project of which Racepacket is the main voice. The project has tried to work with them on adjustments to the Mission statement and defining the importance descriptions but they will not relent until WikiProject United States agrees to resitrict its scope to only include National importance articles which would require that any projects associated with WPUS be disassociated and cut lose to succeed or fail on their own. I do encourage you to way in on the discussions. --Kumioko (talk) 15:40, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(Responding to the GeorgeLouis (talk · contribs) revert and edit summary) Racepacket's notice was "There may be a problem, come tell us what you think", which is within the rules for WP:CANVASSing. Kumioko's was "Rackpacket is trying to mess up my project, help!" -- which is quite a ways outside them. That's why I reverted. Everyone is of course free to weigh in on either side -- I haven't quite decided what the dispute is about yet, never mind which side I'm on. :-)--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 21:33, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't believe that comments on a talk page should be reverted; there is allowance for removing a comment on your own talk page per WP:UP#CMT, however last I was aware (and please do tell me if I am wrong (I am human, and thus fallible)) other users comments shouldn't be edited or removed on a discussion page of an article or elsewhere. I understand that you may have an issue with what another user is doing, but this can be discussed civily without blanking another user's comments; furthermore removal of the comment in question, I don't believe, is not covered under WP:TPO. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 21:41, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You may be right. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 22:05, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It is proposed that this article be deleted because of the following concern:

"This is an advertising page to solicit donations build an ice rink. This campaign, nor the Greater Santa Barbara Ice Skating Association itself, have received independent coverage. "

 Chzz  ►  09:53, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

New article: T. Arthur Cottam - film director

New article, created, at T. Arthur Cottam. Additional assistance in research would be appreciated, feel free to help out at the article's talk page. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 21:26, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

New article = Richard Smith (Silent film director)

New article, created, at Richard Smith (Silent film director). Additional assistance in research would be appreciated, feel free to help out at the article's talk page. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 16:05, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed change to USCongDistStateCA

I just started a discussion here about a change to {{USCongDistStateCA}} Thanks. 67.100.125.181 (talk) 04:08, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Two editors have weighed in so far, but still welcoming comments. 67.100.125.157 (talk) 01:07, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Young Democrats of America. RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 08:12, 30 March 2011 (UTC) (Using {{pls}})[reply]

Merge discussion involving Greater Los Angeles Area metropolitan area articles

A discussion of interest to WikiProject California on merging the Los Angeles metropolitan area and Inland Empire (California) articles into the Greater Los Angeles Area article is going on at Talk:Greater Los Angeles Area#Merge Los Angeles metropolitan area and Inland Empire (California) into this article?. 08OceanBeachS.D. 02:55, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You are invited to add to the above list. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 15:58, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Notability - County Supervisor - John Gioia

Does a County Supervisor pass WP:POLITICIAN? Someone who knows more than me about US local govt might like to have a look at John Gioia and pass an opinion! PamD (talk) 12:47, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article has grown quite a bit since I prodded it, but he still looks pretty un-notable. PamD (talk) 12:49, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
See part three of WP:POLITICIAN, fails parts one and two, therefore, subject must pass WP:GNG in order to be considered notable, IMHO. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 20:03, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Uhh. Yes, he is notable. Contra Costa County is not exactly a cow county. For coverage, see the Contra Costa Times at http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=CC&p_theme=cc&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&s_dispstring=headline,lead(john%20gioia)%20AND%20date(all)&p_field_advanced-0=title&p_text_advanced-0=(john%20gioia)&p_bool_advanced-1=OR&p_field_advanced-1=Lead&p_text_advanced-1=(john%20gioia)&xcal_numdocs=20&p_perpage=10&p_sort=_rank_:D&xcal_ranksort=4&xcal_useweights=yes . Sincerely, your friend, GeorgeLouis (talk) 05:30, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure that the multiple minor mentions of the subject of the article are sufficient to be considered significant coverage under WP:GNG. One can always bring up the article up for AfD, if one is highly concerned about the notability of the subject. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 19:32, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Out of interest, how many people does this guy represent? I know that the LA Sups represent almost two million people each and have large discretionary budgets...is Contra Costa anywhere close? Purplebackpack89≈≈≈≈ 21:00, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Each of the five supes represents about 200,000 people. GeorgeLouis (talk) 23:48, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Battle of Los Angeles LATimes.jpg has been nominated for deletion. 65.93.12.101 (talk) 04:11, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]