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Good article2006 Lebanon War has been listed as one of the History good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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Opening Bias

In the opening segment (If that's what you call it - I mean the first content, before the table of contents), there is the following paragraph:

The conflict killed at least 1,200 people, mostly Lebanese citizens,[38][39][40] severely damaged Lebanese civil infrastructure, and displaced approximately one million Lebanese[41] and 300,000–500,000 Israelis.[26][42][43] After the ceasefire, some parts of southern Lebanon remained uninhabitable due to Israeli unexploded cluster bomblets.[44]

It is blatantly obvious how anti-Israeli this paragraph is. The information might be true, and there is some doubt as to whether it actually is, but the way in which it is organized, especially in the opening segment, is ridiculously biased. A reader would probably read it whilst skimming the article, as it is the shortest paragraph in the opening segment, and then get the following information: Israel killed many Lebanese citizens; Lebanese civil infrastructure, which means hospitals, roads, etc., was destroyed by Israel, Israel displaced twice as much Lebanese civilians, and they used cluster bombs which render some Lebanese area uninhabitable.

Completely biased. Completely anti-Israeli. Completely ridiculous. Completely unacceptable of a Wikipedia article, especially a "good" article.

I recommend either changing the wording (Maybe removing 'mostly Lebanese citizens', 'Lebanese', and changing it to approximately 1.5 million people displaced, as well as completely omitting the last sentence). The entire paragraph could be removed entirely, with some of the more important information being integrated to other paragraphs.

And, full disclosure, I am currently leaving in Israel, but I would be writing this irregardless of my current location; biased articles are biased articles globally. I was not influenced by my current country. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.111.120.209 (talk) 19:26, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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New lead picture

I would like to see a link to the picture that you claim is a building after Hizbollah shelled it.The links to your picture seem not to exist so we only have your word for it.Thanks Owain the 1st (talk) 20:17, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The image was deleted as a copyright violation in 2008. We should remove the image from the lead, or replace it with a comparable one. ← George talk 20:58, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This one probably needs deleting too then. Sean.hoyland - talk 21:01, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Victory

Jpost is as good as any to cite. this not the opinion of states (each will claim they won) or wikipedia editors or aipac lobbyists or any of the sort. discuss sources for victory.(Lihaas (talk) 12:15, 13 July 2011 (UTC)).[reply]

Op-eds are not reliable sources. Editorial commentary, analysis and opinion pieces are reliable for attributed statements as to the opinion of the author, but are rarely reliable for statements of fact. See WP:NEWSORG. Marokwitz (talk) 12:45, 13 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, but this does not mean that the result was not a ceasefire. There's no clear winner so the answer is simply cease fire. Imasleepviking ( talk ) 21:07, 13 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Both sides claimed victory, and the article should reflect that. It would be wrong to categorically declare that no one won. --Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 12:04, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Title of the article shows bias

This war is only a 'Lebanon War' if you write from an Israeli or other non-Lebanese POV. It was a war waged by Israel in and against Lebanon, and thus the title of the article should be '2006 Israel-Lebanon War'. Just as, the 'Vietnam War' was a term used mainly by Americans; but from a neutral POV it is known as the 'U.S.-Vietnam War'.