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is there any verifiable basis for Gandhari's curse? If so, why does the later life not talk about this? 98.206.68.196 (talk)tkul....

Krishna belonged to Abhira (Ahir) Tribe.

http://books.google.co.in/books?id=P3uD22Ghqs4C&pg=PA197&dq=krishna+was+abhira&hl=en&ei=NTuQTdpSwp1xxJTVlQo&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CEsQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=krishna%20was%20abhira&f=false

Indian sociology through Ghurye, a dictionary By S. Devadas Pillaipage -197

Epilogue of Mahabharata http://books.google.co.in/books?id=fmzXAAAAMAAJ&q=krishna+was+abhira&dq=krishna+was+abhira&hl=en&ei=NTuQTdpSwp1xxJTVlQo&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CEEQ6AEwBA

http://books.google.co.in/books?id=voLXAAAAMAAJ&q=krishna+was+abhira&dq=krishna+was+abhira&hl=en&ei=NTuQTdpSwp1xxJTVlQo&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CFQQ6AEwCA Krishna Leela theme in Rajasthani miniatures

http://books.google.co.in/books?ei=aD2QTbWFJcLMcL7FnYYK&ct=result&id=qZvWAAAAMAAJ&dq=krishna+was+abhira&q=abhira http://books.google.co.in/books?ei=aD2QTbWFJcLMcL7FnYYK&ct=result&id=qZvWAAAAMAAJ&dq=krishna+was+abhira&q=abhiras Hinduism and Buddhism: an historical sketch, Volume 1 By Sir Charles Eliot

http://books.google.co.in/books?id=kMnOBpUy7P4C&pg=PA158&dq=krishna+was+abhira&hl=en&ei=aD2QTbWFJcLMcL7FnYYK&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CEIQ6AEwBTgU#v=onepage&q&f=false Hindu Gods and Heroes http://books.google.co.in/books?id=_r1buuxthXoC&pg=PA97&dq=krishna+was+abhira&hl=en&ei=VD-QTZagH8qycMXUmYsK&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCgQ6AEwADge#v=onepage&q=krishna%20was%20abhira&f=false

Ahir king Nand Baba and Vasudeva were brothers.

The cattle and the stick: an ethnographic profile of the Raut of Chhattisgarh

http://books.google.co.in/books?ei=VD-QTZagH8qycMXUmYsK&ct=result&id=wT-BAAAAMAAJ&dq=krishna+was+abhira&q=yaduvansi

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please add all the books related to the lord krishna — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anurag sitar (talk • contribs) 18:09, 9 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Link to revert. - Kautilya3 (talk) 11:27, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Kautilya3, please elaborate on how the content you deleted was undue. Previous and next Births holds high importance in Jainism especially of a Tirthankara. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 10:17, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Guy Beck's volume titled "Alternative Krishnas" has 9 chapters, each covering an alternative vision of Krishna. None of these should swamp the mainstream ideas on Krishna. We need appropriate sources that cover all ideas of Krishna in order to determine due weightage. We also need to know how important Krishna is in Jainism. Can you provide sources for that please? - Kautilya3 (talk) 10:21, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Krishna is the ninth Vasudeva who are Salakapurusa (heroes on whose life Jain Scriptures are based). The primary sources of his Jain version of story are Salakapurusa and Harivamsa Purana. However, I would have to search for scholar coverage of the texts. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 10:50, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The source I shared, is it not good enough? -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 10:52, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The "source" you shared, an article contributed by Padmanabh S. Jaini, says Even a cursory glance at the Jaina Puranas makes it clear that the Jaina authors who composed them knew the Hindu Epics and Puranas well, studied them with the attention worthy of a board of censors examining the offensive portions of a story, and finally decided to rewrite the script in conformity with their own doctrines and sensibilities. So it is WP:UNDUE to write about Jain mythology as if it were a fact or as if it is accepted myth by all parties. - Kautilya3 (talk) 11:02, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I cited Wendy Doniger, not Jaini. Please recheck in sfn. Here is another source of German religious scholar depicting the relationship of Krishna and Arishtanemi Jainism by Helmuth von Glasenapp -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 11:09, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You referred to a book edited by Wendy Doniger with articles by many contributors. The article by Jaini that you referred to makes it clear that the Jaina mythology has been created around personas that originally belonged to the Hindu mythology. You are on very tricky territory here, and you should edit this content only after you have acquired a thorough scholarship of the sources. Please don't use Google books and isolated quotes without full understanding. The other book by von Glasenapp has already been discussed on your talk page, and you were told by admins not to use it. - Kautilya3 (talk) 11:25, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How about this as a source to throw some light on importance of Krishna in Jainism Kautilya3?

Remember that newspapers are only reliable for news. This is a film review. So, unless you can establish that the authors are scholars, it can't be used. - Kautilya3 (talk) 14:38, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(←) I agree that info about Krishna in hell and Tirthankara needs to be included. I have read it earlier in a RS, don't remember where. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 12:33, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Fine as long as WP:DUE weight is respected and the Jain narratives are mentioned as "counternarratives." (The source was mentioned above.) - Kautilya3 (talk) 14:07, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hare Krishnas are not Hindus

Proposal to classify Hare Krishnas as non Hindus given the fact that they contradict mainstream Hindu believe of Brahman being the supreme god. also worship of srila prabhupada is not universal especially of living human beings. Also the birth date of Krishna is disputed given the fact that the Vedas have a composition date later than that of what is claimed in the article.