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Beware of systematic misinforming in the Persian Wikipedia; this is an example!

Please have your people fluent in Persian supervise Persian wiki-texts of sensitive issues. Seems certain "editors" are commissioned to systematically misinform people about some issues including "Munich Massacre". In this case, they blame the massacre on the West German police!

German involvement in planning the release of the three surviving purpotrators in fake hijacking?

The documentary "one day in September" alludes to German involvement in planning the fake hijacking in order to release the terrorists and to avoid scrutiny and further attacks. I see no mention of this? Should there be?

Comment: The preceding comment refers to the documentary "BBC.Storyville.2012.Olympic.Massacre.One.Day.in.September". Al-Gashey was interviewed on camera (with his face unconcealed) in this 2012 BBC documentary, as were several other eye witnesses and key participants. These first hand testimonies contain a lot of relevant information and it would be excellent if somebody could watch it and include relevant eye witness and key participant testimonies (as literal quotes not facts, of course) to enrich the current Wikipedia entry. A torrent of the documentary can be found online.

Wrath of God

"Mossad responded to the release with the 1973 Israeli raid on Lebanon and Operation Wrath of God, tracking down and killing Palestinians suspected of involvement in the massacre" is marked as missing citation. Here is one: The Mossad's secret wars

Consistency with Attacks, Incidents, and Massacres

I understand that the media accords more importance to 11 lives lost in the Western world than in other places around the world [Double standards], but I don't expect this to be echoed here on Wikipedia. Seeing that the attack in which 358 people lost their lives in Mogadishu is not called a massacre (see October 2017 Mogadishu bombings), I suggest that you either rename this page also or at least, to maintain some consistency, rename the Mogadishu attack page as a massacre too.

Also note how the mass shooting in Las Vegas is also not called a "massacre" (see 2017 Las Vegas shooting), making this Munich page seem all the more inconsistent, and politicized.

Memorial Site in the Olympic Park is missing

Sorry I am not good with editing Wiki, and I have not edited enough pages to qualify for this one, but I wanted to alert you to missing information that the memorial site in the Olympic park has opened in September 2017

A picture was uploaded by Wikipeda.de here https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BCnchner_Olympia-Attentat#/media/File:Munich_1972_Massacre_Memorial.jpg

see https://www.dw.com/en/germany-opens-munich-olympics-memorial-honoring-israelis-killed-by-terrorists/a-40379236 http://jewish-heritage-europe.eu/2017/10/23/munichs-powerful-innovative-new-memorial-to-olympics-massacre/

there was also a huge debate about this reported in the German media like the Suedeutsche Zeitung see https://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen/attentat-von-gedenk-gezaenk-im-olympiadorf-1.2321459replicated in English here, which also gives an insight into the battle for the adequate memorial since the 1970s.

DANIEL ZYLBERSZTAJN, a former resident of Olympic village https://dzx2.net/2018/01/02/memorial-site-to-1972-olympic-terror-a-reflection-on-its-opening/ https://dzx2.net/2015/01/11/terror-not-remembered-dont-kill-our-snow-fun-hill-a-sorry-tale-of-a-limping-democratic-intervention/ How lucky we are that the 1972 Memorial site is now standing.... some should hurry to visit it. EDGHILL UNIVERSITY LECTURE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAEnz9yJUfI&feature=youtu.be

As you know today the debate continued due to the UK opposition leader Corbyn seemingly giving honoured Black September people at their grave. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/13/jeremy-corbyn-not-involved-munich-olympics-massacre-wreath-laying

Thank you

This was written by me KxLondon but I was not logged in.

Terrorists?

Terrorists is not neutral at all. Militants is more neutral.80.111.16.75 (talk) 09:19, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with the above intervention. Militants can engage in a range of activities that means that a group of people engage in militarised armed displays or responses. So all of the people in Black September surely were militants, but by engaging violently against unarmed civilians for maximal public impact and hold civil society hostage they also became terrorists. see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militant [[1]] --KxLondon (talk) 09:21, 29 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]