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Citation #266
Reference #266 has a cite error.
Fix the lede
"In some polls the two are tied."
This is not encyclopedic, dammit. 2607:FEA8:BFA0:47F:F174:AC39:DAC9:D441 (talk) 16:05, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- You are welcome to suggest text that you feel is more appropriate. Sincerely, HopsonRoad (talk) 16:29, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- I'm suggesting it be deleted, because polls change by the day. And don't touch my personal page anymore. 2607:FEA8:BFA0:47F:F174:AC39:DAC9:D441 (talk) 16:32, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- I agree that all polling data on the 2020 race should be removed from the lead section. It's recentism. Yesterday's front-runner is tomorrow's has-been. R2 (bleep) 23:30, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
Voting Rights
I think we should add Bernie Sanders's stance on voting rights. He wants to restore the voting rights for everyone, felons included. Here is a USA today article by Sanders himself describing his stance on the issue. ttps://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/04/30/bernie-sanders-felons-deserve-vote-participate-democracy-suppression-trump-column/3621258002/ He justifies the reasons to why in this article.
Also another reference can be https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-voting-rights-felons_n_5cc1ffd1e4b031dc07ef9b97 where he states, "“I was roundly criticized for this, but you know what, once you begin taking away somebody’s right to vote, it’s a slippery slope. ... “Remember 100 years ago, women in America didn’t have the right to vote. Remember 70 years ago, our African American brothers and sisters had to put their lives on the line to get the right to vote.” and also said "You’re paying a price, you committed a crime, you’re in jail. That’s bad. But you’re still living in American society and you have a right to vote. I believe in that, yes, I do.” https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-felon-voting-rights_n_5caa349ae4b0a00f6d414374 Darkninja505 (talk) 21:45, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- Perhaps you should enter this at the Political positions article. Gandydancer (talk) 23:38, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
Emphasis of lead
I'm a little surprised by the overall emphasis of the lead section. It seems to prioritize some of relatively minor aspects way over other aspects for which he's much better known (and for which he's received much more coverage in reliable sources). Specifically, I think I'm on solid ground saying that, along with being a longtime Senator for Vermont, Sanders is best known for:
- Advocating against economic inequality and for single-payer healthcare
- Being a self-described democratic socialist and progressive
- Running for president in 2016
Brief mentions of these things belong in the first paragraph. Certainly, they're more significant and more extensively covered by RSs than the fact that his caucusing with the Democrats at times gives them a majority.
I understand that what I'm proposing would be a departure from the most common politician template. However there's no rule or guideline saying that all politicians' lead sections must be structured exactly the same, and Sanders isn't your average politician. R2 (bleep) 18:46, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- R2, you make a fair point. I have re-arranged the existing text to change the emphasis of the lead by changing the order of its topics. See if this works for you and other editors. HopsonRoad (talk) 20:37, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- It's not quite what I was thinking of. I'll make some changes, you can revert if you disagree, and then let's discuss. R2 (bleep) 21:02, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- Haha, I think we got our wires crossed a bit, but we're right where we should be, at the status quo ante. Here's your version, here's my version, now we can compare. R2 (bleep) 21:21, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- Hoho from here! I'm fine with your edits, in principle, R2. I reverted myself after I saw that your edits were a work in progress! (An edit comment would have clued me in.) Cheers, HopsonRoad (talk) 21:25, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah, I accidentally clicked rollback instead of undo, preventing me from adding an edit summary. No hard feelings. R2 (bleep) 21:26, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- Hoho from here! I'm fine with your edits, in principle, R2. I reverted myself after I saw that your edits were a work in progress! (An edit comment would have clued me in.) Cheers, HopsonRoad (talk) 21:25, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- Haha, I think we got our wires crossed a bit, but we're right where we should be, at the status quo ante. Here's your version, here's my version, now we can compare. R2 (bleep) 21:21, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- It's not quite what I was thinking of. I'll make some changes, you can revert if you disagree, and then let's discuss. R2 (bleep) 21:02, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
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In the polling section for the June 2018 poll Clinton is listed as the second place person in the poll when it should be Elizabeth Warren. Clinton isn't running. 2605:E000:1B05:150:0:CE52:61B9:88E3 (talk) 17:18, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
Not done This would not reflect the source, which did in fact list Clinton in second place. However, I believe this issue is moot because I removed the entire sentence. R2 (bleep) 17:46, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
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Can Category:American socialists and Category:North American democratic socialists be replaced with the subcategory Category:American democratic socialists? Thanks, 142.160.89.97 (talk) 22:17, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
Done Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia! — Newslinger talk 05:05, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
Hitler quote
The quote about Hitler is wrong. Hitler lost the election in 1932, and only became Chancellor in 1933 because he was appointed by a senile President Hindenburg. The Nazis actually lost considerable support in the last free election in 1932. (86.160.101.211 (talk) 13:19, 28 June 2019 (UTC))
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